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One of the main functions of an election campaign is to ensure that those who seek to govern us are subject to proper scrutiny something that is much easier to avoid in non-election periods.
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https://twitter.com/InspGadgetBlogs/status/867432319765946368
this is a victory for May and Corbyn
Corbyn wants to stay low because he's associated with terror
May wants to bury her manifesto screw ups
suits the big two
Police will be forced to adopt a “paramilitary” style of enforcement if the government inflicts big budget cuts on them, the head of the police officers’ organisation has warned.
Steve White, chair of the Police Federation, said his 123,000 members, from police constables to inspectors, fear a move towards a more violent style of policing as they try to keep law and order with even fewer officers than now.
White told the Guardian that more cuts would be devastating: “You get a style of policing where the first options are teargas, rubber bullets and water cannon, which are the last options in the UK.”
White said cuts would see the bedrock principle of British law enforcement, policing by consent, ripped apart.
The election isn't going anywhere, the debates and interviews are still on, there are still two full weeks to go from tomorrow. Democracy can handle a few days' disruption.
Has any other party announced when they'll resume full campaigning yet?
The great unspoken truth is that we have too many police forces, and those cuts made a number of them merge in all but name: a good thing. (Note - I'm not proposing a one size fits all approach like in Scotland, just that the likes of Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire should have one police force).
Those cuts are not relevant to what we are seeing, which is the military back-filling static guarding posts to free up armed police for dynamic roles. Armed police numbers have not fallen.
https://twitter.com/shashj/status/867452787101237248
Agree with the thread. Campaigning should resume. The minute silence is a neat point at which to resume campaigning (afterwards, of course).
People and politicians need time to consider the implications of a terrible event like Monday's: it takes at least several days to decide how you react to it. Looking at some of the nastiness and silliness (not here!) of the last couple of days I think it's important that those campaigning have the opportunity to formulate their responses, so that they don't come out on camera with thoughtless and bloody stupid statements of a kind which generate huge quantities of more or less simulated outrage. That isn't good for democracy.
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/867402258090266626
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/24/world/europe/manchester-arena-bomb-materials-photos.html?_r=0
They've already announced a full resumption by Friday. While I'd have preferred Thursday, is that really worth quibbling over by this point?
Police resources: In NI, where active human and technical watch activity was less than 150 targets at most, there were around 8,500 regular police officers and about 4500-5000 reservists many of whom were full time. You 10's of thousands of UK military at peak, you had 6000 UDR. You had MI5 and to a smaller extent had MI6.
You had a quite widespread informant network that took about 10 years to build and grew into a monster.
Even with extensive resources and sources like that, far in excess of anything the UK government has to hand in proportion today, they had to rely heavily on informants as well as routine policing activities because they just didn't have enough to keep watch on all critical people in the way some people think you can.
You can't, get over it.
There are several hundred Abedis alone, travellers who raise suspicion. are seen in the wrong places, but don't have any firm action behind them on domestic soil. On top you have former fighters, proper grenade throwing, trigger pulling types, you have logistics support, facilitators, encouragers many of which might just decide to go to Allah even after you weed out those who won't do the pointy stick bit yet still may be of high interest. Several thousand then. Chances are they are picking sub-two hundred to sit on at any one time.
As for Libya, anyone who can remember the apparently off topic rantings of this madman back in 2016 in particular will see a few posts on Islamic extremists working out of Libya, training and inserting people into Europe and reports on Western military interest.
Anyone who thinks Islamic extremists just popped up after Gaddafi went forget it, again talking through their party political hole, get an education. They have been churning out high grade extremists for decades.
Any thoughts on the stream of leaks coming from the US on Manchester?
A combination of the three counties would not be vastly different in terms either of population or geographic extent to the area which has been patrolled by the Thames Valley Police for the last 50 years; however, I can't recall having seen any talk of a merger on the local news for some years, since proposals for a tie up between Herts & Beds were shelved.
There are only two likely agencies which would have the data sharing that is coming out, the FBI and CIA so its coming from them or political elements privy to it as well but it looks direct from agency. The NSA is less likely.
Why?
Someone (likely more than a single source) just likes sharing
There is a point specific to this case or general handling (it wouldn't be a first time that agencies have sent info to the public domain because they think it needs to be there)
Something else, to which political motivation is a possibility
Being honest, other than naming Abedi early, and lets bear in mind they tend to do that in the US, nothing coming out is going to change actions this side of the water.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-clarifies-that-self-declared-eu-envoy-candidate-isnt-up-for-post-1495649596
There are a great may reasons to criticise the PM, including over some security matters, but seeing folk crawl all over each other looking for a smoking gun to pin Manchester on her is not right.
I'm wondering why it (2nd pref to fptp) is in the manifesto. It raises issues on voting systems which will be debated again and which for the time being were completely dead and for types of elections where it is pretty impossible to put up an argument for fptp.
Just asking for trouble where none was present.
At least if you don't have those politicians and community leaders running around like headless chickens and effectively encouraging people to withhold co-operation, then you do have the chance to use an intelligence-based approach instead.
Wonder if UKIP's move forced the Tories' and Labour's hand a little. As it is, UKIP will have uncontentested coverage in the election part of the news tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/867462373719801856
Most people who grew (or lost) a beard would fix themselves a new Twitter picture.
Every time people cast a vote with a different system it changes the conversation to voting systems, why don't we change Westminster etc - by putting forward a single uniform system (FPTP) across all English elections it has a one off discussion but then ends the trial of different systems across England. FPTP becomes entrenched as our voting system.
file:///C:/Users/john/Downloads/SN00634.pdf
Anyone been watching the match? Fucking turgid crap from Mourinho. At least Gurning Flopp plays attacking football.
Followed up with some choice quotes from McDonnell and Abbot.
Then sit back for a fortnight.
Surely just need AB
I reckon by the end of the campaign, every single person eligible to vote will know, in detail, everything Corbyn, Abbott & McDonnell ever said and did.
And their judgement will be severe.
I'm not sure the Tories will go for that now, but they don't really need to. The Sun and the Mail will do it for them.
I reckon by the end of the campaign, every single person eligible to vote will know, in detail, everything Corbyn, Abbott & McDonnell ever said and did.
And their judgement will be severe. The Sun and the Mail doing it for them is the story of British political discourse.
But it won't will it. We will still have STV and Constituencies with top ups (although neither in England). Guess we have got rid of lists by default.
I have to say (personal view point) that the experiment with these systems seemed designed to fail by bringing in the worst possible types. 2nd preference seemed to be have a go at PR and then change your mind after the first round and resort to fptp, which to me seems odd and lists are just awful for so many reasons.
As you say, the Tories will go back to being Strong&Stable, and will let the Mail and Sun give both barrels to Labour for a fortnight.
Eng surely have this in bag
Edit: GOT HIM!!!!!! 225/7, out of batsmen this looks over for the visitors.
Why is BJO supporting the Proteas?
Edit - Ok, make that a smidgeon over 64.
Surely England can't blow this?
ABDV not so much