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  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    @tim

    Faisal Islam ‏@faisalislam
    2012/13 was the worst year for English housebuilding completions on record (since 1969). Build for victory! …


    Ignorant twaddle from Faisal Islam. He is using the same source as I am - LiveTable209.xls from DCLG - so he should be able to read that the 2012-13 figures are incomplete. There is a provisional estimate only for England and no data yet for Scotland, Wales and NI.

    If Miliband made an election promise of 365 days in 75% of years Faisal Islam would claim Labour is"building for victory!"
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    tim said:

    I'm surprised no Tories have looked at Merkels victory, looked at their own pair of chinless chumps leading the party and thought

    "hang on a minute, if we replace one or other of these twits with Theresa May we might actually improve our vote share to nearer what it was under Thatcher and Major"

    Merkel wasn't good enough to win an overall majority though tim.

  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    AveryLP said:

    @tim

    Faisal Islam ‏@faisalislam
    2012/13 was the worst year for English housebuilding completions on record (since 1969). Build for victory! …


    Ignorant twaddle from Faisal Islam. He is using the same source as I am - LiveTable209.xls from DCLG - so he should be able to read that the 2012-13 figures are incomplete. There is a provisional estimate only for England and no data yet for Scotland, Wales and NI.

    If Miliband made an election promise of 365 days in 75% of years Faisal Islam would claim Labour is"building for victory!"

    Mr Islam has a tendency to err on the side of communism - he's like Ed Conway without the train ticket fetish.

    Meanwhile Stormin Norman rubbishes any claims of BBC bias.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/normantebbit/100237652/a-merry-go-round-of-villains-fools-and-lobbyists-will-party-conference-season-never-end/

    "Of course I would not suggest that the BBC is institutionally biased. It seems to me to be pretty evenly split between outright supporters of the Lib Dems and those committed to Labour, so it is nicely balanced between the conflicting views of The Guardian and the New Statesman."

  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    FPT @tim

    Amazing really that Osborne only started to wake up to housing halfway through the parliament.After slashing the social housebuilding budget in half in 2010.

    Whether you think like I do that the govt should've thrown the kitchen sink at housing three years ago,or whether you believe like Avery that stoking up the demand side now is right, its certainly been a huge missed opportunity for the govt.

    And now they are trying to cram as much feelgood bubble into the tail end of the Parliament.


    Local Authorities have built 6,200 dwellings in the first three years under Osborne. As the figures for the third year, 2012-13 only include England, and, as Scotland built 1,110 dwellings in 2012, the final total is likely to be between 7,200-7,500.

    So in the first three years of the Coalition more homes have been built by Local Authorities than during the entire 1997-2010 Labour governments who only managed 6,400 in total.

    In the first two years of the Coalition government (stats are not yet available for 2012-13), Housing Association new builds have averaged 32,410. Under the 13 years of prior Labour government, the average was 24,797.

    Private Sector new-builds as a proportion of total housing stock sold have been higher in each of the first three years of the Coalition government than in any one year of the 97-10 Labour governments.

    The Private Sector, under any government, will only build to meet realistic expectations of demand volume and value. Turnover in the residential property market (volume x value) was only 25% of pre-crisis peaks in June 2013:

    During the boom times of 2007, the Indicator stood at 10,000 properties a day. The flow of properties fell drastically as the financial crisis hit, but recovered to 4,000 per day in 2010.

    However, over the last three years, the Indicator has shown a downward trend, with stock levels falling faster than marketing times.

    Currently, the Indicator stands at 2,761 properties a day – a turnover 14% lower than in June 2012.
    [Estate Agent News]

    So even though turnover has been running at 28% of 2007 levels, private sector new builds are currently averaging 60% of the 2007 levels.

    The justification for Osborne's housing finance interventions are staring you in the face, tim.
  • tim said:

    I'm surprised no Tories have looked at Merkels victory, looked at their own pair of chinless chumps leading the party and thought

    "hang on a minute, if we replace one or other of these twits with Theresa May we might actually improve our vote share to nearer what it was under Thatcher and Major"

    Better, they need to renegotiate Britain's relationship with the EU to bring in a new constitutional settlement where Angela Merkel is in charge of both countries.
  • Nice one, Marf!
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Marf heralds the return of socialism.

    "It's not fur!"
  • V good Marf – is that handbag Prada..?
  • Nice cartoon, Marf, as always!
  • RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    edited September 2013
    tim said:


    I think the Tories would settle for 41.5%.

    Which they won't get with a fop leadership team.

    We just need a similar swing over the next 20 months to that Ms Merkel had over the last 20 months. Labour are currently working on this.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 113,972
    edited September 2013

    V good Marf – is that handbag Prada..?

    It looks like the Louis Vutton handbag I bought my wife a few years ago.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    WTF?

    RT @Andrew_ComRes: ComRes/ITV News: Ed M 'is in control of the Labour Party' agree 28% disagree 45% ht.ly/p9Qm4
  • So for the speech...

    Shirt-sleeves or Jacket?
    Tie or not?
    Sleeves rolled up?
    Notes and podium or free-form jazz style?
    Verbs?

  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 40,950
    it is disappointing, Marf, if only because you didn't take state_go_away's suggestion of showing EdM doing a Prince Naseem Hameed somersault entrance onto the podium.

    A-
  • Plato said:

    WTF?

    RT @Andrew_ComRes: ComRes/ITV News: Ed M 'is in control of the Labour Party' agree 28% disagree 45% ht.ly/p9Qm4

    It's not past vote weighted.
  • According to the Times Ed Miliband is going to channel his inner Ronald Reagan.

    So is he going to say

    I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    How apt that Marf features a pink socialist muff on the day of Ed's speech.
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    edited September 2013

    V good Marf – is that handbag Prada..?

    It looks like the Louis Vutton handbag I bought my wife a few years ago.
    LOL. I bought Mrs SSC a rucksack -you definitely win the dedicated follower of fashion award.
  • FPT
    TGOHF said:

    Scott_P said:

    Unpopular millionaire politician trys to boost image with carefully stage managed pictures with his wife.

    The PB Kinnocks will be all over this.

    TelegraphPics: Photo 1 of 2: #Labour leader Ed #Miliband and his wife Justine in their hotel room in #Brighton (Stefan Rousseau/PA) http://t.co/cI7JU8qLvO

    TelegraphPics: Photo 2 of 2: #Labour leader Ed #Miliband and his wife Justine in their hotel room in #Brighton (Stefan Rousseau/PA) http://t.co/XZu3zgiOVa

    Oh, wait...

    "My husband, my hero"

    :)
    Last throw of the dice from desperate man..
    Remember this from the last Labour Conference before the election:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1216913/My-husband-hero-Return-Sarah-Brown-Prime-Minister-gives-make-break-speech.html
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    tim said:

    I'm surprised no Tories have looked at Merkels victory, looked at their own pair of chinless chumps leading the party and thought

    "hang on a minute, if we replace one or other of these twits with Theresa May we might actually improve our vote share to nearer what it was under Thatcher and Major"

    My exact thoughts at looking at todays yougov poll ;-)
  • tim said:

    I'm surprised no Tories have looked at Merkels victory, looked at their own pair of chinless chumps leading the party and thought

    "hang on a minute, if we replace one or other of these twits with Theresa May we might actually improve our vote share to nearer what it was under Thatcher and Major"

    Who would Labour need to replace Ed with to actually improve their vote share to nearer what it was under Blair?
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    tim said:

    @Avery

    I thought Faisal Islam was being kind to Osborne by mentioning 1969, housing completions in 2012-3 are likely to be worse than for any year outside of wartime for 100 years.

    And bunging Persimmon a few first time buyers deposits isn't a long term solution.

    No, tim.

    Once the 2012-13 figures are finalised (with Scotland, Wales and NI included plus second half England figures), the UK year total will be higher than 2011-12. So you and Faisal won't need to time shift back to 1969 or even WWII. You will just need to go back one year.

    You need to look at industry pipeline stats to see the trend.
  • TGOHF said:

    How apt that Marf features a pink socialist muff on the day of Ed's speech.

    "There are no socialist tanks in Brighton"

    :)
  • Only a few minutes to go till Ed's speech! I am *so* excited!!
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited September 2013

    tim said:

    I'm surprised no Tories have looked at Merkels victory, looked at their own pair of chinless chumps leading the party and thought

    "hang on a minute, if we replace one or other of these twits with Theresa May we might actually improve our vote share to nearer what it was under Thatcher and Major"

    My exact thoughts at looking at todays yougov poll ;-)
    Tyke

    Don't join the PB Lefties in misinterpreting the YouGov poll this morning.

    Southam Observer and tim have argued that YouGov changed their weightings to deliver a poll showing near parity between Labour and the Conservatives.

    Using the same logic we might ask why YouGov have delivered a poll which is at the other end of the range for the eve of Ed Miliband's speech.

    Will we see a massive fall tomorrow? "Voters not impressed by Miliband speech. Labour ;lead falls by 3%."

    I don't normally believe in such silly conspiracies, but now tim and SO have set the hare running, I am beginning to have my doubts.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724

    Only a few minutes to go till Ed's speech! I am *so* excited!!

    I'm thinking of ordering a pizza - if I do it now, it'll be here at about 1430.

    Should I hang on?
  • Plato said:

    Only a few minutes to go till Ed's speech! I am *so* excited!!

    I'm thinking of ordering a pizza - if I do it now, it'll be here at about 1430.

    Should I hang on?
    As long as it's not a "Margherita" Thatcher :)
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    tim said:

    tim said:

    I'm surprised no Tories have looked at Merkels victory, looked at their own pair of chinless chumps leading the party and thought

    "hang on a minute, if we replace one or other of these twits with Theresa May we might actually improve our vote share to nearer what it was under Thatcher and Major"

    My exact thoughts at looking at todays yougov poll ;-)

    PB Tory in connection with real world shocker.

    I think you saw this one coming too

    Andrew Hawkins ‏@Andrew_ComRes 21 Sep
    ComRes/S Mirror/IoS: 51% to 26% say Ed M shd commit to scrap so-called "Bedroom Tax" http://ht.ly/p5hlQ
    Tim lad,please don't call me a tory,let just say I'm in the anyone but labour camp. ;-)
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Plato said:
    Poll: 60% believe Ed Miliband is not an election winner

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724

    Plato said:

    Only a few minutes to go till Ed's speech! I am *so* excited!!

    I'm thinking of ordering a pizza - if I do it now, it'll be here at about 1430.

    Should I hang on?
    As long as it's not a "Margherita" Thatcher :)
    LOL - why aren't you on Twitter more? I've been crying with laughter all morning.
  • wonder what percentage of people think we get too many polls these days?
  • Plato said:

    Plato said:

    Only a few minutes to go till Ed's speech! I am *so* excited!!

    I'm thinking of ordering a pizza - if I do it now, it'll be here at about 1430.

    Should I hang on?
    As long as it's not a "Margherita" Thatcher :)
    LOL - why aren't you on Twitter more? I've been crying with laughter all morning.
    I was on briefly yesterday - I replied to the Tube 270 tweet :)

    Sunil Prasannan ‏@Sunil_P2 20h @PlatoSays Yebbut there are 661 stations on the Oystercard Map - I've visited ALL of them! Tube Challenge folk are slackers - 270 stations?
  • “Is this the most disingenuous statement in political history? Balls sparks disbelief with claims he had 'no idea' about Damian McBride's tactics”

    Awesome- the DMail resurrects ‘farmy –farm’ and what a god awful photo of Balls..!

    http://tinyurl.com/nocpzd5
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    tim said:

    tim said:

    tim said:

    I'm surprised no Tories have looked at Merkels victory, looked at their own pair of chinless chumps leading the party and thought

    "hang on a minute, if we replace one or other of these twits with Theresa May we might actually improve our vote share to nearer what it was under Thatcher and Major"

    My exact thoughts at looking at todays yougov poll ;-)

    PB Tory in connection with real world shocker.

    I think you saw this one coming too

    Andrew Hawkins ‏@Andrew_ComRes 21 Sep
    ComRes/S Mirror/IoS: 51% to 26% say Ed M shd commit to scrap so-called "Bedroom Tax" http://ht.ly/p5hlQ
    Tim lad,please don't call me a tory,let just say I'm in the anyone but labour camp. ;-)

    That explains the occasional connection with real world polling then.
    Sorry.
    LOL
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,279
    Ed Miliband is Gordon Brown MK2, but without the loyal coterie who will go into battle to try to overcome his inherent Leadership failings internally or externally with the public. The Labour party know he isn't PM material, and more importantly the public know it too.
    AveryLP said:

    Plato said:
    Poll: 60% believe Ed Miliband is not an election winner

  • “Is this the most disingenuous statement in political history? Balls sparks disbelief with claims he had 'no idea' about Damian McBride's tactics”

    Awesome- the DMail resurrects ‘farmy –farm’ and what a god awful photo of Balls..!

    http://tinyurl.com/nocpzd5

    Balls by name, Balls by nature?
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,279
    Did you catch Ed Balls denials of any knowledge of McBride's activities on Boulton&Co yesterday lunchtime?

    “Is this the most disingenuous statement in political history? Balls sparks disbelief with claims he had 'no idea' about Damian McBride's tactics”

    Awesome- the DMail resurrects ‘farmy –farm’ and what a god awful photo of Balls..!

    http://tinyurl.com/nocpzd5

  • 10 minutes to go!!! Tension builds :)
  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    edited September 2013
    How will the PB Hodges know what to think about little Ed's speech if it hasn't even started?
    Dan Hodges ‏@DPJHodges 2h

    Ed Miliband is abut to channel his inner Eric Cantona > Telegraph > http://tinyurl.com/nbfaavk

    Phew, that's a relief.

    *crying with laughter etc* ;^ )
  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    Onwards and upwards for the kippers.
    Damian Thompson ‏@holysmoke 2h

    Michael Heaver: Godfrey Bloom's resignation is good news for those of us trying to forge a new, serious Ukip http://fw.to/67Tr24b
  • 10 minutes to go!!! Tension builds :)

    I have to miss the speech, I haven't been this disappointed since when I fell asleep during the second Presidential debate last year.

  • fitalass said:

    Did you catch Ed Balls denials of any knowledge of McBride's activities on Boulton&Co yesterday lunchtime?

    “Is this the most disingenuous statement in political history? Balls sparks disbelief with claims he had 'no idea' about Damian McBride's tactics”

    Awesome- the DMail resurrects ‘farmy –farm’ and what a god awful photo of Balls..!

    http://tinyurl.com/nocpzd5

    No, I missed it – But I did catch a video repeat of Ed Balls and his ‘who is this Mr. McBride of which you speak’ codswallop.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    I will not be watching ed's speech but I will be kept informed by our truth tellers on PB on how it's going,so I expect the truth ;-)

    Not some of the bull from last years ed speech, where some said it was terrible and it turned out not to bad,the truth my friends ;-)
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited September 2013
    @tim

    Poll: 60% believe Ed Miliband is not an election winner

    100% KNOW David Cameron isn't an election winner.

    Still, nice for you to have a non past vote weighted poll to lean on


    Poll: 61.23% believe Ed Miliband is not an election winner

    Now past vote weighted.

    Satisfied now, tim?


  • "My Milliband, My hero!"

    :)
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    tim said:

    @toadmeister: Just pre-ordered @DPMcBride's book on http://t.co/VG6yifUQjo. So much prefer him to @CampbellClaret. At least he admits he's a villain

    @campbellclaret: @toadmeister @DPMcBride And I prefer him to you. At least he admits he is an odious twat

    Blimey, hope Tobes doesn't get too wrapped up in this, who will keep the poor kids out of Tobeschool if he's busy?

    Brilliant by Campbell lol

  • Sunil Prasannan ‏@Sunil_P2 11m Looking forward to Ed's speech - I am sure will be even more inspirational and passionate than last year's! #Lab13
  • Whoever chose this "Baby you're a firework", "You're gonna make them go uh uh uh" song to lead up to Ed Miliband was clearly taking the piss.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 13,227
    edited September 2013
    fitalass said:

    Did you catch Ed Balls denials of any knowledge of McBride's activities on Boulton&Co yesterday lunchtime?

    “Is this the most disingenuous statement in political history? Balls sparks disbelief with claims he had 'no idea' about Damian McBride's tactics”

    Awesome- the DMail resurrects ‘farmy –farm’ and what a god awful photo of Balls..!

    http://tinyurl.com/nocpzd5

    Fitalass

    Balls' denial was greeted, I understand, without incredulity and derision by the press corps, and many other professional politicos.

    On any natural reading of Rawnesley's excellent tome, The End Of The Party, you have to think that McBride's activities were condoned if not actually encouraged by Balls, Brown and most of the senior politicians in the Brown camp during the BB wars. That would encompass Miliband Ed (but not his elder brother, who may have been supine but not complicit) and Douglas Alexander, though the extent to which these two actually approved of what he was up to is distinctly debatable.

    My own guess would be that like many others in the PLP they would have been paralysed by fear of what Brown's mafia could do and this ensured their silence if not their support. Even on the most charitable interpretations it was a shocking state of affairs, the unhappy consequences of which linger. They will continue to do so, imo, until some of the more culpable individuals move on, one way or the other.

    Balls was at the very heart of the Brown team. It would cheer me up immensely to see him go, but I don't see it happening, unless the good voters of Morley and Outwood can do us all a favour in 2015.

  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    "My Milliband, My hero!"

    :)

    We few, we happy few, we Miliband of brothers

    Shakespeare version

    We few, we happy few, we Miliband of brotherscomrades

    Sean Thomas version.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Bike crash already.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 40,950
    Very unfortunate woman in white skirt behind him. Bad wardrobe choice.
    Plus bad action hero joke.
  • Whoever chose this "Baby you're a firework", "You're gonna make them go uh uh uh" song to lead up to Ed Miliband was clearly taking the piss.

    If Katy Perry’s ‘baby you're a firework’ was good enough the BBC presenters Red-Nose sketch

    Then it’s bloody good enough for Ed.
  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    Very nice marf. :)
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    I thought Ed was "better than this"

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Janan Ganesh @JananGanesh
    Saying "Britain can do better than this" when all the viewer can see is him might not work as he intended.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    That's The Sun headlines sorted.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    TGOHF said:

    I thought Ed was "better than this"

    Britain can do better than Ed Miliband.

    @JananGanesh: Saying "Britain can do better than this" when all the viewer can see is him might not work as he intended. #Milibandspeech
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Miliband didn't say "No" to military intervention in Syria.

    He said "Yes, but only if you vote for my motion".
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,697
    Is Ed going to give us a verse of The Red Flag? :D
  • AveryLP said:

    Miliband didn't say "No" to military intervention in Syria.

    He said "Yes, but only if you vote for my motion".

    He single-handedly stopped us entering another grubby MidEast war, Avery!
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Chuka enjoying the speech.

    No one stands to gain more from it.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    AveryLP said:

    Miliband didn't say "No" to military intervention in Syria.

    He said "Yes, but only if you vote for my motion".

    He single-handedly stopped us entering another grubby MidEast war, Avery!
    Of course, Sunil.

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    AveryLP said:

    That's The Sun headlines sorted.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BU7mjMyCUAEuc26.jpg

    Stephen Tall ‏@stephentall

    Here is Ed Miliband pictured facing Rupert Murdoch down

  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Apple pie !

    CHEERS.

  • This is working quite well, in an understated, baby you're not at all a firework kind of way.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Anecdote !

    YAWNS.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,211
    @tim - I am feeling your pain feeling Ed's pain.

    It surely must get better...it can't get any worse, can it?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @hugorifkind: "And after I talk about terror in Kenya, I'll move on to my Cleveley local government ancedote." #lab13
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,697
    edited September 2013
    @Tim Don't you go to conference?

    Given all your hard work for Labour night and day on here, I would have thought the very least they could do is send you a ticket to see the leaders speech!!!!

    Ungrateful *!£"$%*&^
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @isaby: What a coincidence that all @Ed_Miliband's anecdotes take place in marginal constituencies!
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,094
    Re previous article, surely @generalboles is the parody account (as it says in the cover picture), so Mike is mistaken to think the comment comes from Nick Boles?
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited September 2013
    I met a scaffolder just outside a local cafe....

    ...let's hope it was where the Edgware Road meets Bayswater Road.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,211
    Ed praising Maggie for growth in the 1980s. Good man.

    What a berk.

    Here comes (Mrs Burnham's) yachts.

  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    Tell an anecdote about a personal struggle then waffle about how we will 'do better than this'. But never tell us how.

    I hope Cameron fecks the anecdotes off next week and tells everybody times are tough because we are still spending about £100billion each year than we are taking in.

    And that's he long and the short of it.

    Cameron will probably do heart-rending anecdotes too though, because politicians are so detached from the real world these days they think it's cool.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Good thing they briefed the yacht joke so the audience knew when to clap
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited September 2013
    Scott_P said:

    @hugorifkind: "And after I talk about terror in Kenya, I'll move on to my Cleveley local government ancedote." #lab13

    The spoof Cleveley account is very funny @cleveleysnews
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 40,950
    crowd not lapping it up.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    tim said:

    @afneil: Miliband begins with opposition to Murdoch and Syria. Both positions come out v well for Labour in focus groups. #bbcdp #lab13

    Bingo,thats the tv news highlights sorted.

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @kiranstacey: Panto season. Looks embarrassing. #lab13
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,697
    edited September 2013
    There was a time when PB would have hundreds of posts an a couple of hour's during the leaders speech to party conference.

    What happened?
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited September 2013
    Scott_P said:

    Good thing they briefed the yacht joke so the audience knew when to clap

    The gap between the clap line and the clapping was painful.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,211
    Ed's now Frankie Howerd,

    Ooor, er, missus
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @JGForsyth: Miliband promises never to go on a beach holiday if he becomes PM
  • Gags and audience participation thing a bit naff, he should stick to just speaking softly and pretending he's going to do something about world gas prices.
  • Is a lap of shame a thing? If not I think it should be.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @hugorifkind: So, what Team Ed wants is pictures of him in every paper tomorrow, above "BRITAIN CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS". Did nobody spot a flaw?
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    JohnO said:

    Ed's now Frankie Howerd,

    Ooor, er, missus

    He's targetting the Cleethorpes voter.

  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Gags and audience participation thing a bit naff, he should stick to just speaking softly and pretending he's going to do something about world gas prices.

    Hopefully that's what Cameron will be doing next week.

  • Tim Montgomerie ‏@TimMontgomerie 2m
    Ed Miliband has just pledged to always wear shirts on beach holidays.

    What a twunk...
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @jennirsl: Mistake for Miliband to ask conf audience to roar back in response to: do the Tories get it. Panto politics looks silly on TV #lab13
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 40,950
    GIN1138 said:

    There was a time when PB would have hundreds of posts an a couple of hour's during the leader speech to party conference.

    What happened?

    we are waiting for it to become a powerful, thoughtful, nuanced and convincing speech.

    And it's a million miles from that.

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I'm embarrassed on behalf of Labour - this is desperate and cliched patronising wibble.
  • Scott_P said:

    Good thing they briefed the yacht joke so the audience knew when to clap

    Lee Marsh ‏@lee_marsh123 1m

    #lab13 watching Miliband is like watching a really really poor stand-up comedian...
  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    edited September 2013
    Parts of the beginning of the speech were quite obviously written quite some time ago.
    Unluckly little Ed. Better luck next time..
  • Fenster said:

    Tell an anecdote about a personal struggle then waffle about how we will 'do better than this'. But never tell us how.

    I hope Cameron fecks the anecdotes off next week and tells everybody times are tough because we are still spending about £100billion each year than we are taking in.

    And that's he long and the short of it.

    Cameron will probably do heart-rending anecdotes too though, because politicians are so detached from the real world these days they think it's cool.

    I remember watching one of the Cameron Direct events before the last election, and it was notable how he always came back to saying that his number one priority would be reducing the deficit.

    He's been a lot less keen on that since he entered number 10, though.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @phil_reilly: Does Ed M consider not removing his shirt in public as PM a red line in any coalition negotiations? #Lab13
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @alstewitn: #lab13 'Britain deserves bigger towels and covered chests. I will deliver'.
  • tim said:

    @afneil: Miliband begins with opposition to Murdoch and Syria. Both positions come out v well for Labour in focus groups. #bbcdp #lab13

    Yes, his entire strategy comprises a list of unconnected things that go down well in focus groups. In fact, come to think of it, that was his approach to getting the leadership as well.
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