Nobody forced us to switch from mph to.kmh and indeed we're on the same standard now. Back when Europe was about trading with each other rather than "harmonising" everything.
A bunch of km signs were actually installed in a small corner of Gloucestershire, and many are still there today.
I could be wrong, but I think it is actually illegal in the UK to have signs in kms, metres, etc
Certainly official road signage including distance markers (I suppose for the obvious reason that it should be all or nothing to avoid confusion). Pretty sure that it is okay for non-highways stuff though. So I think a local council signpost with distances to local landmarks for tourists would be absolutely fine.
Yes, a bit of Googling says I am right. It is illegal to have traffic/road signs giving distance in metric units. However, you CAN use metric when indicating width (of tunnels etc). Brilliantly absurd.
Local authorities apparently need special dispensation to use metres and kms on ANY distance signs, and some have been successfully prosecuted and forced to replace metres with yards.
Hooray for YARDS. Bring back the furlong, rod and pole.
On the railway distances are measured in miles and chains, apart from HS1 which is in kilometers.
Miles and pints are the only Imperial measure worth keeping and that’s only for sentimental reasons.
The rest are insane anachronisms best consigned to the bin.
They’re certainly not “insane” and nor are they best confined to the bin.
Height measured in feet and inches makes sense, aeroplanes use feet and knots, and we measure our weight in stones and pounds, and babies in pounds and ounces. Acres are still widely used too.
Chill. It’s all good.
CANZUK will be metric.
Catch up with the modern world.
Canada allows imperial units to be shown alongside metric units.
Full metrification wasn’t popular there, and imperial units only for weighing loose fruit and veg are tolerated.
Nobody forced us to switch from mph to.kmh and indeed we're on the same standard now. Back when Europe was about trading with each other rather than "harmonising" everything.
A bunch of km signs were actually installed in a small corner of Gloucestershire, and many are still there today.
I could be wrong, but I think it is actually illegal in the UK to have signs in kms, metres, etc
Certainly official road signage including distance markers (I suppose for the obvious reason that it should be all or nothing to avoid confusion). Pretty sure that it is okay for non-highways stuff though. So I think a local council signpost with distances to local landmarks for tourists would be absolutely fine.
Yes, a bit of Googling says I am right. It is illegal to have traffic/road signs giving distance in metric units. However, you CAN use metric when indicating width (of tunnels etc). Brilliantly absurd.
Local authorities apparently need special dispensation to use metres and kms on ANY distance signs, and some have been successfully prosecuted and forced to replace metres with yards.
Hooray for YARDS. Bring back the furlong, rod and pole.
They are much more interesting, diverse, historic and characterful. Slightly more human, good for estimating and rather evocative. Not so good for scientific calculations, and that’s where you use SI, but it’s horses for courses, isn’t it? I think we have the best of both worlds.
And, I mildly enjoy confusing my wife with them.
Yes, but wasn't there some evidence that the Space Shuttle explosion was because of US scientists and engineers mixing SI with Imperial and fitting a wrongly-sized widget? So the confusion isn't always charming and benign.
Kilometres do seem very foreign though. I am always startled by the use of them in Ireland and Oz.
It is, at present, but under the old European Communities Act 1972 if the EU had agreed a directive for metrification in that area under the auspices of completing the single market then the UK would have been obligated to follow.
I suspect the UK quietly shelved it and convinced the EU it wasn’t a big deal and not to push for it.
They should make metrication a requirement when Britain tries to rejoin the EU. Obviously practically better, and requires an unambiguous commitment to stop pandering to nostalgic old people.
You see, it’s comments like that from globalist fundamentalists like you, that make me realise I’m 100% right.
Nobody forced us to switch from mph to.kmh and indeed we're on the same standard now. Back when Europe was about trading with each other rather than "harmonising" everything.
A bunch of km signs were actually installed in a small corner of Gloucestershire, and many are still there today.
I could be wrong, but I think it is actually illegal in the UK to have signs in kms, metres, etc
Certainly official road signage including distance markers (I suppose for the obvious reason that it should be all or nothing to avoid confusion). Pretty sure that it is okay for non-highways stuff though. So I think a local council signpost with distances to local landmarks for tourists would be absolutely fine.
Yes, a bit of Googling says I am right. It is illegal to have traffic/road signs giving distance in metric units. However, you CAN use metric when indicating width (of tunnels etc). Brilliantly absurd.
Local authorities apparently need special dispensation to use metres and kms on ANY distance signs, and some have been successfully prosecuted and forced to replace metres with yards.
Hooray for YARDS. Bring back the furlong, rod and pole.
They are much more interesting, diverse, historic and characterful. Slightly more human, good for estimating and rather evocative. Not so good for scientific calculations, and that’s where you use SI, but it’s horses for courses, isn’t it? I think we have the best of both worlds.
And, I mildly enjoy confusing my wife with them.
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You should never mix any units in a project. That’s retarded. They should all be SI for calculating something like that.
It’s happened elsewhere as well. Planes have crashed because the fuellers got confused and only filled up the number in pounds when it should have been in kilos.
I’ve found kilometres equally weird in Canada. On the plus side, the pint is still going strong as a concept internationally, even if you usually do get cheated of the extra 68ml.
I note that the Irish and Australians have standardised a pint at 570ml. A bonus 2ml on ours!
Nobody forced us to switch from mph to.kmh and indeed we're on the same standard now. Back when Europe was about trading with each other rather than "harmonising" everything.
A bunch of km signs were actually installed in a small corner of Gloucestershire, and many are still there today.
I could be wrong, but I think it is actually illegal in the UK to have signs in kms, metres, etc
And bars are only allowed to sell beer in pint and half pint measures.
There have been cases when Austrian and Polish themed restaurants in the UK have been prosecuted by the authorities for not so doing.
With the restaurant owners being supported by the 'metric martyrs'.
The WTO issue is not that it could instruct us to create a border in Northern Ireland.
It is that if we deliberately go out of our way not to collect tariffs, then we will have cases brought against us by (for example) Argentinian beef farmers who would claim that we allowed beef from Ireland in tariff free despite the absence of an FTA, and therefore its farmers should get the same treatment.
Minor point of order - WTO complaints can only be brought by governments, not e.g. Argentinian beef farmers. Not disagreeing with your general points, and welcome to pb.
It is, at present, but under the old European Communities Act 1972 if the EU had agreed a directive for metrification in that area under the auspices of completing the single market then the UK would have been obligated to follow.
I suspect the UK quietly shelved it and convinced the EU it wasn’t a big deal and not to push for it.
They should make metrication a requirement when Britain tries to rejoin the EU. Obviously practically better, and requires an unambiguous commitment to stop pandering to nostalgic old people.
You see, it’s comments like that from globalist fundamentalists like you, that make me realise I’m 100% right.
Thank you.
Sounds like we have to rely on globalist fundamentalists to uphold the British sense of humour.
I’m 26, UK born and raised, and I measure nothing in imperial units apart from alcoholic drinks, speed and penis size (heh). I can hardly comprehend what a stone or a yard is to be honest.
I grew up in the 70s and in some ways failed to properly learn both systems. Higher ambient temperatures make more sense to me in Fahrenheit - "in the 70s" sounds warm - but lower ambient temps make more sense to me in Celsius. Despite living in the US for eight years now, 32F just doesn't mean freezing to me!
Most of us still speak about our weight in stones and pounds, our height in feet and inches, our fuel economy in miles to the gallon, distance in miles, drinks in pints, engine power in horsepower, Land in acres, thread count in fabric threads per square inch. We still very much think in imperial measurements. Mind you I’m 50 so can’t speak for the younger generation
My teenage kids...weight kg, height in feet, fuel mpg, but priced in litres, distance in miles and metres, area in square metres.
Miles and pints are the only Imperial measure worth keeping and that’s only for sentimental reasons.
The rest are insane anachronisms best consigned to the bin.
They’re certainly not “insane” and nor are they best confined to the bin.
Height measured in feet and inches makes sense, aeroplanes use feet and knots, and we measure our weight in stones and pounds, and babies in pounds and ounces. Acres are still widely used too.
Chill. It’s all good.
Square feet for property
Inches for clothing sizes and TV screens
Furlongs for horse races
Imperial remains the standard in many areas — that is simply a fact.
One practical area where I think metrication has been counter productive has been in housebuilding/renovation. You can't retrofit houses to be metric nor can you make new products which are incompatible with pre metric housing. So we end up with everything be the old imperial standards but just converted to metric measurements. Which means you get some really strange mm measurements for stuff.
But I like both Imperial and metric and am comfortable switching back and forth. And at work - in one of the most advanced technological industries in the world - everything is done in API which is a kind of American Imperial.
Time does play its tricks on the memory as we get older . I find it incredible to have to accept the reality that the clip shown relates to events closer to 1938 - the Anschluss and later Chamberlain returning from Munich - than to the present day! Yet it seems a mere few years ago - but in 1978 the late 1930s felt like a different age.
Miles and pints are the only Imperial measure worth keeping and that’s only for sentimental reasons.
The rest are insane anachronisms best consigned to the bin.
They’re certainly not “insane” and nor are they best confined to the bin.
Height measured in feet and inches makes sense, aeroplanes use feet and knots, and we measure our weight in stones and pounds, and babies in pounds and ounces. Acres are still widely used too.
Chill. It’s all good.
Square feet for property
Inches for clothing sizes and TV screens
Furlongs for horse races
Imperial remains the standard in many areas — that is simply a fact.
Indeed. PSI for tyre pressures. MPG for fuel efficiency. Similar for pushbikes too.
It goes on and on. And so what? It works, it’s understood and it’s fun.
Miles and pints are the only Imperial measure worth keeping and that’s only for sentimental reasons.
The rest are insane anachronisms best consigned to the bin.
They’re certainly not “insane” and nor are they best confined to the bin.
Height measured in feet and inches makes sense, aeroplanes use feet and knots, and we measure our weight in stones and pounds, and babies in pounds and ounces. Acres are still widely used too.
Chill. It’s all good.
Not really bothered, but I've no idea what an acre is, and always measure my weight in kilos. Just a matter of what one's used to.
But I do think it's insane to sell petrol in litres but have cars rated by miles per gallon.
It is, at present, but under the old European Communities Act 1972 if the EU had agreed a directive for metrification in that area under the auspices of completing the single market then the UK would have been obligated to follow.
I suspect the UK quietly shelved it and convinced the EU it wasn’t a big deal and not to push for it.
They should make metrication a requirement when Britain tries to rejoin the EU. Obviously practically better, and requires an unambiguous commitment to stop pandering to nostalgic old people.
You see, it’s comments like that from globalist fundamentalists like you, that make me realise I’m 100% right.
Thank you.
Sounds like we have to rely on globalist fundamentalists to uphold the British sense of humour.
Right. Yes. Sorry, of course.. I missed a real corker there.
I’m 26, UK born and raised, and I measure nothing in imperial units apart from alcoholic drinks, speed and penis size (heh). I can hardly comprehend what a stone or a yard is to be honest.
I thought journalists had an additional measure which is 'The Belgium'. Most commonly used in phrases like 'an area of Rain Forest the size of Belgium has been destroyed in the last 10 minutes'.
Miles and pints are the only Imperial measure worth keeping and that’s only for sentimental reasons.
The rest are insane anachronisms best consigned to the bin.
They’re certainly not “insane” and nor are they best confined to the bin.
Height measured in feet and inches makes sense, aeroplanes use feet and knots, and we measure our weight in stones and pounds, and babies in pounds and ounces. Acres are still widely used too.
Chill. It’s all good.
Not really bothered, but I've no idea what an acre is, and always measure my weight in kilos. Just a matter of what one's used to.
But I do think it's insane to sell petrol in litres but have cars rated by miles per gallon.
Slightly worrying that a former MP doesn’t know what an acre is, no offence
I'm sure I heard Geoffrey Howe once say they abandoned actively promoting metrication under Thatcher, as they believed it had largely been completed. Although I may have hallucinated.
IIRC Geoffrey Howe was chair of the all-party metrication group when I was its secretary. We were neither very zealous nor, as you see, very effective.
Miles and pints are the only Imperial measure worth keeping and that’s only for sentimental reasons.
The rest are insane anachronisms best consigned to the bin.
They’re certainly not “insane” and nor are they best confined to the bin.
Height measured in feet and inches makes sense, aeroplanes use feet and knots, and we measure our weight in stones and pounds, and babies in pounds and ounces. Acres are still widely used too.
Chill. It’s all good.
Not really bothered, but I've no idea what an acre is, and always measure my weight in kilos. Just a matter of what one's used to.
But I do think it's insane to sell petrol in litres but have cars rated by miles per gallon.
Miles and pints are the only Imperial measure worth keeping and that’s only for sentimental reasons.
The rest are insane anachronisms best consigned to the bin.
They’re certainly not “insane” and nor are they best confined to the bin.
Height measured in feet and inches makes sense, aeroplanes use feet and knots, and we measure our weight in stones and pounds, and babies in pounds and ounces. Acres are still widely used too.
Chill. It’s all good.
Square feet for property
Inches for clothing sizes and TV screens
Furlongs for horse races
Imperial remains the standard in many areas — that is simply a fact.
Indeed. PSI for tyre pressures. MPG for fuel efficiency. Similar for pushbikes too.
It goes on and on. And so what? It works, it’s understood and it’s fun.
I’m minded to agree. I also agree with you about SI and building work / engineering etc. If only schools would teach it!
The cm is a pony primary school measurement - nobody doing much important uses it. The millimetre is probably France’s finest invention, a perfect unit of precision used in engineering worldwide.
Why then do I still meet adults who don’t seem to know how many mm in a metre, and who use cm when working on a project where (like most) precision is paramount?
At the height of Imperial units the most you could expect to live was three score and ten years. Today, after metrification a lifespan of 100 years is possible.
Miles and pints are the only Imperial measure worth keeping and that’s only for sentimental reasons.
The rest are insane anachronisms best consigned to the bin.
They’re certainly not “insane” and nor are they best confined to the bin.
Height measured in feet and inches makes sense, aeroplanes use feet and knots, and we measure our weight in stones and pounds, and babies in pounds and ounces. Acres are still widely used too.
Chill. It’s all good.
Square feet for property
Inches for clothing sizes and TV screens
Furlongs for horse races
Imperial remains the standard in many areas — that is simply a fact.
Indeed. PSI for tyre pressures. MPG for fuel efficiency. Similar for pushbikes too.
It goes on and on. And so what? It works, it’s understood and it’s fun.
But engine size is measure in cc or l.
Does anyone know how long that has been the case in the UK ?
Miles and pints are the only Imperial measure worth keeping and that’s only for sentimental reasons.
The rest are insane anachronisms best consigned to the bin.
They’re certainly not “insane” and nor are they best confined to the bin.
Height measured in feet and inches makes sense, aeroplanes use feet and knots, and we measure our weight in stones and pounds, and babies in pounds and ounces. Acres are still widely used too.
Chill. It’s all good.
Not really bothered, but I've no idea what an acre is, and always measure my weight in kilos. Just a matter of what one's used to.
But I do think it's insane to sell petrol in litres but have cars rated by miles per gallon.
Yes, that is one genuinely stupid outcome of our mixed system.
It’s happened elsewhere as well. Planes have crashed because the fuellers got confused and only filled up the number in pounds when it should have been in kilos.
I'm happy to be corrected, but to my knowledge there is only one case of anything like this and the conversion involved was from pounds to litres to kilograms, so it wasn't just a straightforward imperial to metric conversion.
The aircraft didn't actually crash, it executed a fairly hairy emergency landing and was flying again a few days later after some minor repairs.
The WTO issue is not that it could instruct us to create a border in Northern Ireland.
It is that if we deliberately go out of our way not to collect tariffs, then we will have cases brought against us by (for example) Argentinian beef farmers who would claim that we allowed beef from Ireland in tariff free despite the absence of an FTA, and therefore its farmers should get the same treatment.
Minor point of order - WTO complaints can only be brought by governments, not e.g. Argentinian beef farmers. Not disagreeing with your general points, and welcome to pb.
I'm sorry, I've messed up the blockquote. What you have replied to was part of the comment by rcs1000 which I have replied to.
Miles and pints are the only Imperial measure worth keeping and that’s only for sentimental reasons.
The rest are insane anachronisms best consigned to the bin.
They’re certainly not “insane” and nor are they best confined to the bin.
Height measured in feet and inches makes sense, aeroplanes use feet and knots, and we measure our weight in stones and pounds, and babies in pounds and ounces. Acres are still widely used too.
Chill. It’s all good.
Square feet for property
Inches for clothing sizes and TV screens
Furlongs for horse races
Imperial remains the standard in many areas — that is simply a fact.
One practical area where I think metrication has been counter productive has been in housebuilding/renovation. You can't retrofit houses to be metric nor can you make new products which are incompatible with pre metric housing. So we end up with everything be the old imperial standards but just converted to metric measurements. Which means you get some really strange mm measurements for stuff.
But I like both Imperial and metric and am comfortable switching back and forth. And at work - in one of the most advanced technological industries in the world - everything is done in API which is a kind of American Imperial.
That is a very good point about housing. As someone who has spent the last six years renovating an Edwardian terrace, it is something I have noted.
I didn’t know that about the oil industry - interesting. Thanks.
Nobody forced us to switch from mph to.kmh and indeed we're on the same standard now. Back when Europe was about trading with each other rather than "harmonising" everything.
A bunch of km signs were actually installed in a small corner of Gloucestershire, and many are still there today.
I could be wrong, but I think it is actually illegal in the UK to have signs in kms, metres, etc
And bars are only allowed to sell beer in pint and half pint measures.
There have been cases when Austrian and Polish themed restaurants in the UK have been prosecuted by the authorities for not so doing.
With the restaurant owners being supported by the 'metric martyrs'.
Beer can be also be sold in one-third and two-third pint measures.
I'm sure I heard Geoffrey Howe once say they abandoned actively promoting metrication under Thatcher, as they believed it had largely been completed. Although I may have hallucinated.
IIRC Geoffrey Howe was chair of the all-party metrication group when I was its secretary. We were neither very zealous nor, as you see, very effective.
Miles and pints are the only Imperial measure worth keeping and that’s only for sentimental reasons.
The rest are insane anachronisms best consigned to the bin.
They’re certainly not “insane” and nor are they best confined to the bin.
Height measured in feet and inches makes sense, aeroplanes use feet and knots, and we measure our weight in stones and pounds, and babies in pounds and ounces. Acres are still widely used too.
Chill. It’s all good.
Not really bothered, but I've no idea what an acre is, and always measure my weight in kilos. Just a matter of what one's used to.
But I do think it's insane to sell petrol in litres but have cars rated by miles per gallon.
An acre is a big garden.
An acre is 2 cricket pitches by 5 cricket pitches.
Miles and pints are the only Imperial measure worth keeping and that’s only for sentimental reasons.
The rest are insane anachronisms best consigned to the bin.
They’re certainly not “insane” and nor are they best confined to the bin.
Height measured in feet and inches makes sense, aeroplanes use feet and knots, and we measure our weight in stones and pounds, and babies in pounds and ounces. Acres are still widely used too.
Chill. It’s all good.
Square feet for property
Inches for clothing sizes and TV screens
Furlongs for horse races
Imperial remains the standard in many areas — that is simply a fact.
One practical area where I think metrication has been counter productive has been in housebuilding/renovation. You can't retrofit houses to be metric nor can you make new products which are incompatible with pre metric housing. So we end up with everything be the old imperial standards but just converted to metric measurements. Which means you get some really strange mm measurements for stuff.
But I like both Imperial and metric and am comfortable switching back and forth. And at work - in one of the most advanced technological industries in the world - everything is done in API which is a kind of American Imperial.
That is a very good point about housing. As someone who has spent the last six years renovating an Edwardian terrace, it is something I have noted.
I didn’t know that about the oil industry - interesting. Thanks.
It can give you nightmares when dealing with volumes particularly, which are a crucial feature of safety management in drilling, but it does make you ace at mental arithmetic. The conversion factor for annular volumes in barrels (1029.42) is scarred into my brain for life.
It’s happened elsewhere as well. Planes have crashed because the fuellers got confused and only filled up the number in pounds when it should have been in kilos.
I'm happy to be corrected, but to my knowledge there is only one case of anything like this and the conversion involved was from pounds to litres to kilograms, so it wasn't just a straightforward imperial to metric conversion.
The aircraft didn't actually crash, it executed a fairly hairy emergency landing and was flying again a few days later after some minor repairs.
Miles and pints are the only Imperial measure worth keeping and that’s only for sentimental reasons.
The rest are insane anachronisms best consigned to the bin.
They’re certainly not “insane” and nor are they best confined to the bin.
Height measured in feet and inches makes sense, aeroplanes use feet and knots, and we measure our weight in stones and pounds, and babies in pounds and ounces. Acres are still widely used too.
Chill. It’s all good.
Square feet for property
Inches for clothing sizes and TV screens
Furlongs for horse races
Imperial remains the standard in many areas — that is simply a fact.
Indeed. PSI for tyre pressures. MPG for fuel efficiency. Similar for pushbikes too.
It goes on and on. And so what? It works, it’s understood and it’s fun.
I’m minded to agree. I also agree with you about SI and building work / engineering etc. If only schools would teach it!
The cm is a pony primary school measurement - nobody doing much important uses it. The millimetre is probably France’s finest invention, a perfect unit of precision used in engineering worldwide.
Why then do I still meet adults who don’t seem to know how many mm in a metre, and who use cm when working on a project where (like most) precision is paramount?
Glad we agree. I find millimetres and millilitres are useful for precision.
I think it comes back to the inhumanness of it. It’s similar for millions, billions and trillions. Tens, hundreds, thousands.. people get confused.
If you’re using it professionally, you’re paid to get it right, but on some building projects when you’re digging the pits and cutting the wood on site cm can be accurate enough.
Miles and pints are the only Imperial measure worth keeping and that’s only for sentimental reasons.
The rest are insane anachronisms best consigned to the bin.
They’re certainly not “insane” and nor are they best confined to the bin.
Height measured in feet and inches makes sense, aeroplanes use feet and knots, and we measure our weight in stones and pounds, and babies in pounds and ounces. Acres are still widely used too.
Chill. It’s all good.
Square feet for property
Inches for clothing sizes and TV screens
Furlongs for horse races
Imperial remains the standard in many areas — that is simply a fact.
Indeed. PSI for tyre pressures. MPG for fuel efficiency. Similar for pushbikes too.
It goes on and on. And so what? It works, it’s understood and it’s fun.
I’m minded to agree. I also agree with you about SI and building work / engineering etc. If only schools would teach it!
The cm is a pony primary school measurement - nobody doing much important uses it. The millimetre is probably France’s finest invention, a perfect unit of precision used in engineering worldwide.
Why then do I still meet adults who don’t seem to know how many mm in a metre, and who use cm when working on a project where (like most) precision is paramount?
Glad we agree. I find millimetres and millilitres are useful for precision.
I think it comes back to the inhumanness of it. It’s similar for millions, billions and trillions. Tens, hundreds, thousands.. people get confused.
If you’re using it professionally, you’re paid to get it right, but on some building projects when you’re digging the pits and cutting the wood on site cm can be accurate enough.
For very rough work, I guess. But I’ve yet to encounter a single proper woodwork project where that’s the case. I also like how mm quotes - to me, saying “cut that to 576” is easier and less ambiguous than describing the same length in cm or inches.
3 way title race on now. Looked unlikely some weeks ago.
What's slightly concerning from United's point of view is that Spurs excellent run has essentially made it 1 from 3 for that last CL place as opposed to 2 from 4. We were so far behind that even 22/24 has barely got us in contention.
3 way title race on now. Looked unlikely some weeks ago.
What's slightly concerning from United's point of view is that Spurs excellent run has essentially made it 1 from 3 for that last CL place as opposed to 2 from 4. We were so far behind that even 22/24 has barely got us in contention.
Win v Fulham on Saturday and City beat Chelsea at the Eithad on Sunday, United go 4th on their own
3 way title race on now. Looked unlikely some weeks ago.
What's slightly concerning from United's point of view is that Spurs excellent run has essentially made it 1 from 3 for that last CL place as opposed to 2 from 4. We were so far behind that even 22/24 has barely got us in contention.
Win v Fulham on Saturday and City beat Chelsea at the Eithad on Sunday, United go 4th on their own
It’s happened elsewhere as well. Planes have crashed because the fuellers got confused and only filled up the number in pounds when it should have been in kilos.
I'm happy to be corrected, but to my knowledge there is only one case of anything like this and the conversion involved was from pounds to litres to kilograms, so it wasn't just a straightforward imperial to metric conversion.
The aircraft didn't actually crash, it executed a fairly hairy emergency landing and was flying again a few days later after some minor repairs.
3 way title race on now. Looked unlikely some weeks ago.
What's slightly concerning from United's point of view is that Spurs excellent run has essentially made it 1 from 3 for that last CL place as opposed to 2 from 4. We were so far behind that even 22/24 has barely got us in contention.
Win v Fulham on Saturday and City beat Chelsea at the Eithad on Sunday, United go 4th on their own
3 way title race on now. Looked unlikely some weeks ago.
I can’t see Spurs mounting a serious challenge - they still have several games before Alli and Kane return, and no strength in depth.
I think City might edge it.
And Puel's mighty Leicester away form next Sunday.
If Spurs could have kept their first team fit they might have had a chance. But their lack of decent replacements up top means they are not realistic contenders.
I wonder how motivated Everton will be on Wednesday when they meet City? If City beat them, they go top.
Given our form, how motivated we are is a matter of only marginal importance. Might make the difference between six or seven I guess.
Silva next in the sack race?
Possibly. However, we have been through some managers recently. At least he tries to play good football, and we have gone away to the big 6 at least prepared to have a go at them for the first time in ages. Some want him sacked, but the prevailing anger is at the players at least for now. They are the common denominator.
Wiltshires are a fairly standard unit of land area.
Smaller than a Wales though...
But I thought 1 Wales = 1 Soul
(Pat of the back for first to figute it out)
A man for all seasons
It profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world ... but for Wales?
2 mins... give yourself a pat on the back
It was my favourite play at school. Indeed this was what me think about doing law for the first time:
...And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned around on you--where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast--man's laws, not God's--and if you cut them down...d'you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake.”
Wiltshires are a fairly standard unit of land area.
Smaller than a Wales though...
But I thought 1 Wales = 1 Soul
(Pat of the back for first to figute it out)
A man for all seasons
It profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world ... but for Wales?
2 mins... give yourself a pat on the back
It was my favourite play at school. Indeed this was what me think about doing law for the first time:
...And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned around on you--where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast--man's laws, not God's--and if you cut them down...d'you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake.”
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Full metrification wasn’t popular there, and imperial units only for weighing loose fruit and veg are tolerated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsEB65Q4kHI
Thank you.
3 grains of laudanam squire!
There have been cases when Austrian and Polish themed restaurants in the UK have been prosecuted by the authorities for not so doing.
With the restaurant owners being supported by the 'metric martyrs'.
But I like both Imperial and metric and am comfortable switching back and forth. And at work - in one of the most advanced technological industries in the world - everything is done in API which is a kind of American Imperial.
Which makes 1970 the big dividing line.
It goes on and on. And so what? It works, it’s understood and it’s fun.
But I do think it's insane to sell petrol in litres but have cars rated by miles per gallon.
Same for EU firms, look at a spec sheet for a EU car sold in the US all in imperial.
Football, thoroughly worldwide remains imperial.
My bad.
Hooray for quarts, gills, rods and slugs!
The cm is a pony primary school measurement - nobody doing much important uses it. The millimetre is probably France’s finest invention, a perfect unit of precision used in engineering worldwide.
Why then do I still meet adults who don’t seem to know how many mm in a metre, and who use cm when working on a project where (like most) precision is paramount?
Does anyone know how long that has been the case in the UK ?
From PB's favourite movie
"Bishop: Ripley, in nineteen minutes this area is going to be a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska."
The aircraft didn't actually crash, it executed a fairly hairy emergency landing and was flying again a few days later after some minor repairs.
What you have replied to was part of the comment by rcs1000 which I have replied to.
I didn’t know that about the oil industry - interesting. Thanks.
Nebraska compared to the UK
Edit 1976 for Union https://www.reddit.com/r/Metric/comments/4h2m7i/the_metrication_of_rugby/
Metres, however, have a pleasant British timbre to them
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1092389885795844097
I think it comes back to the inhumanness of it. It’s similar for millions, billions and trillions. Tens, hundreds, thousands.. people get confused.
If you’re using it professionally, you’re paid to get it right, but on some building projects when you’re digging the pits and cutting the wood on site cm can be accurate enough.
I actually really like Klopp and would love to see him win the title this season but not over West Ham getting points.
I think City might edge it.
Swimming pools are a well known standard measure of liquid volume.
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/qkvzb5/the-time-nasa-lost-a-mars-orbiter-because-of-a-metric-system-mixup
I remember that United's first premiership title was the most nerve wracking during the last few weeks
As Fergie said 'squeaky bum time ' and looks as if Klopp may experience it first hand
Liverpool look most likely to leave the CL and "concentrate on the League" .
(Pat of the back for first to figute it out)
VAR next season and therefore Liverpool would have lost
It profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world ... but for Wales?
Some want him sacked, but the prevailing anger is at the players at least for now. They are the common denominator.
...And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned around on you--where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast--man's laws, not God's--and if you cut them down...d'you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake.”
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1092545643711815686