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  • RobDRobD Posts: 38,215
    First :smiley:
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 20,488
    Second!
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 20,488
    Go Camel-ah!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 9,931
    I am on Amy. She comes over well on TV, and can do "normal" far better than nearly all the other candidates. The Left of the party is looking a bit too crowded, Klobuchar can sweep up the moderates.

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 45,548
    I look forward to being utterly sick of the 2020 contest by the time the primaries actually start.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 8,905
    Beto to make a final decision by the end of February, he tells Oprah:
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 2,881
    kle4 said:

    I look forward to being utterly sick of the 2020 contest by the time the primaries actually start.

    I was about to say that it's going to be the new Brexit, but of course the hair-pulling over that issue will most likely still be in full swing when the 2020 Presidential election takes place. And possibly when the 2024 contest happens, too.

    So we've both things to look forward to at the same time. That'll be fun.
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 1,107
    Foxy said:

    I am on Amy. She comes over well on TV, and can do "normal" far better than nearly all the other candidates. The Left of the party is looking a bit too crowded, Klobuchar can sweep up the moderates.

    I agree that this is what ought to happen, but I have a horrible feeling that in practice the debate is going to go so far leftwards that all candidates are going to spend the next year or so burnishing their socialist credentials, with the result that a) they pick the wrong candidate and b) whoever they pick then can't tack anything like far enough back to the centre to win the middle from Trump.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 29,841
    IanB2 said:

    Go Camel-ah!

    What happened to the poster called Dromedary?
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 11,942

    IanB2 said:

    Go Camel-ah!

    What happened to the poster called Dromedary?
    He got the hump.
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 3,409

    IanB2 said:

    Go Camel-ah!

    What happened to the poster called Dromedary?
    Don't know, Dr O'Medary could be detained by the backstop.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 9,931
    Endillion said:

    Foxy said:

    I am on Amy. She comes over well on TV, and can do "normal" far better than nearly all the other candidates. The Left of the party is looking a bit too crowded, Klobuchar can sweep up the moderates.

    I agree that this is what ought to happen, but I have a horrible feeling that in practice the debate is going to go so far leftwards that all candidates are going to spend the next year or so burnishing their socialist credentials, with the result that a) they pick the wrong candidate and b) whoever they pick then can't tack anything like far enough back to the centre to win the middle from Trump.
    I sense a desire to win in the Democrats, and while socialism is polling well there, Amy will be the sensible choice who can win. Very clean backstory to compared with most of the rivals.
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 1,107
    philiph said:

    IanB2 said:

    Go Camel-ah!

    What happened to the poster called Dromedary?
    Don't know, Dr O'Medary could be detained by the backstop.
    Do you mean the bactrianstop?
  • FPT

    Just had news that one of my granddaughters teachers was killed on the Euston - Holyhead line at Abergele early this morning. She is reported to have two children

    The School, teaching staff and students are in understandable turmoil

    It is so sad
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 29,841
    eek said:
    Is May 24 an iteration of the Maybot?
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 14,606
    So why has there been such a shift towards Senators running for President rather than Governors ?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 25,481
    edited February 5
    I think she is past caring and will challenge ERG to take the deal down
  • QuincelQuincel Posts: 2,344

    So why has there been such a shift towards Senators running for President rather than Governors ?

    Increased focus on the central government (as opposed to states) means Senators get more public profile than governors? I don't really know, and it's a good question.
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 5,431
    SeanT said:

    I'm not sure I give a tiny floating scintilla of a fuckette, but I appreciate the need for the site to vary from Brexit, every so often.

    Seat T doesn't care. How sad
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 26,286
    eek said:
    They are going to clone Theresa May, and we'll have to go through 23 of them before Brexit comes around.

    Oh joy.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 26,286
    eek said:
    That is from Zerohedge.

    Nobody ever lost money doing the exact opposite of whatever Zerohedge predicts...
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 14,606
    Quincel said:

    So why has there been such a shift towards Senators running for President rather than Governors ?

    Increased focus on the central government (as opposed to states) means Senators get more public profile than governors? I don't really know, and it's a good question.
    I had a similar thought.

    But aren't approval ratings for Congress at minimal levels whereas at least some Governors must be highly thought of.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 15,397
    SeanT said:

    A more pressing question for PB-ers. I just opened a should-be-decent £25 bottle of Chateauneuf-du-Pape I bought from M&S a few months ago.

    It is horribly corked and utterly undrinkable. But what do I do? Who keeps a receipt for wine they bought half a year back?

    I wonder how much profit wine-sellers make from wholly unacceptable wine. FFS switch to screwcaps or SORT IT OUT

    If it's knackered you shouldn't need a receipt. Don't take it back with only a glassful left in it though.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 9,931
    Quincel said:

    So why has there been such a shift towards Senators running for President rather than Governors ?

    Increased focus on the central government (as opposed to states) means Senators get more public profile than governors? I don't really know, and it's a good question.
    Isn't it more that the public are sick of politicians with executive experience of running things, and prefer big talkers like Obama and Trump.

    Dubya, Clinton, Reagan, Carter all had been governors.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 45,548
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I'm not sure I give a tiny floating scintilla of a fuckette, but I appreciate the need for the site to vary from Brexit, every so often.

    Seat T doesn't care. How sad
    Mike, I wasn't being insulting, quite the opposite. I admire your ability (at an advanced age) to keep bettors interested in things OTHER than Brexit. It is part of the site's USP, and a great credit to you.

    However, I do feel that Brexit overwhelms everything, right now, and that is how it should be. A neuralgic and internal British political argument, debated for 50 years, is reaching its grand finale. What;s more, whatever happens to Brexit has massive, important lessons for half a billion Euiropeans who might one day consider national independence, AND it has further lessons for other nations, across the globe, who might fancy their sovereign chances, head to head with elitist globalisation.

    For once, a parochial focus on our own political debate is justified. Right now we ARE the centre of world attention. Will Brexit be a total catastrophe, will a great and ancient democracy continue to soil itself in public, or will, somehow, this country pull itself together and achieve a decent result and a new self respect? Or will the Queen be evacuated to the moon?

    Compared to that, even the strangeness of America's new politics seems small beer, just right now.
    Maybe so, but even us obsessives need a break. If this were a story it'd be all climax right now, it's exhausting.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 14,606

    Quincel said:

    So why has there been such a shift towards Senators running for President rather than Governors ?

    Increased focus on the central government (as opposed to states) means Senators get more public profile than governors? I don't really know, and it's a good question.
    I had a similar thought.

    But aren't approval ratings for Congress at minimal levels whereas at least some Governors must be highly thought of.
    Approval ratings for Congress really are poor:

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/1600/congress-public.aspx

    Are there any equivalent approval ratings for the Westminster lot ?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 45,548
    rcs1000 said:

    eek said:
    They are going to clone Theresa May, and we'll have to go through 23 of them before Brexit comes around.

    Oh joy.
    If they all get a vote it makes passing the deal easier
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 9,931
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I'm not sure I give a tiny floating scintilla of a fuckette, but I appreciate the need for the site to vary from Brexit, every so often.

    Seat T doesn't care. How sad
    Mike, I wasn't being insulting, quite the opposite. I admire your ability (at an advanced age) to keep bettors interested in things OTHER than Brexit. It is part of the site's USP, and a great credit to you.

    However, I do feel that Brexit overwhelms everything, right now, and that is how it should be. A neuralgic and internal British political argument, debated for 50 years, is reaching its grand finale. What;s more, whatever happens to Brexit has massive, important lessons for half a billion Euiropeans who might one day consider national independence, AND it has further lessons for other nations, across the globe, who might fancy their sovereign chances, head to head with elitist globalisation.

    For once, a parochial focus on our own political debate is justified. Right now we ARE the centre of world attention. Will Brexit be a total catastrophe, will a great and ancient democracy continue to soil itself in public, or will, somehow, this country pull itself together and achieve a decent result and a new self respect? Or will the Queen be evacuated to the moon?

    Compared to that, even the strangeness of America's new politics seems small beer, just right now.
    Yeah, but nothing happens on Brexit Groundhog Day. Same old arguments and delusional ideas, few betting opportunities.

    In America, Populism is about to die, and that is newsworthy, because where America goes, we follow.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 45,548
    edited February 5
    Foxy said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I'm not sure I give a tiny floating scintilla of a fuckette, but I appreciate the need for the site to vary from Brexit, every so often.

    Seat T doesn't care. How sad
    Mike, I wasn't being insulting, quite the opposite. I admire your ability (at an advanced age) to keep bettors interested in things OTHER than Brexit. It is part of the site's USP, and a great credit to you.

    However, I do feel that Brexit overwhelms everything, right now, and that is how it should be. A neuralgic and internal British political argument, debated for 50 years, is reaching its grand finale. What;s more, whatever happens to Brexit has massive, important lessons for half a billion Euiropeans who might one day consider national independence, AND it has further lessons for other nations, across the globe, who might fancy their sovereign chances, head to head with elitist globalisation.

    For once, a parochial focus on our own political debate is justified. Right now we ARE the centre of world attention. Will Brexit be a total catastrophe, will a great and ancient democracy continue to soil itself in public, or will, somehow, this country pull itself together and achieve a decent result and a new self respect? Or will the Queen be evacuated to the moon?

    Compared to that, even the strangeness of America's new politics seems small beer, just right now.
    Yeah, but nothing happens on Brexit Groundhog Day. Same old arguments and delusional ideas, few betting opportunities.

    In America, Populism is about to die, and that is newsworthy, because where America goes, we follow.
    I thought they were just planning to swap rightish populism for lefty populism?

    And things happen. Some days nothing has changed, other times nothing has altered. Sometimes the EU say no, sometimes they say hell no. And sometimes the ERG and DUP are rumoured to be softening...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 25,771
    SeanT said:

    A more pressing question for PB-ers. I just opened a should-be-decent £25 bottle of Chateauneuf-du-Pape I bought from M&S a few months ago.

    It is horribly corked and utterly undrinkable. But what do I do? Who keeps a receipt for wine they bought half a year back?

    I wonder how much profit wine-sellers make from wholly unacceptable wine. FFS switch to screwcaps or SORT IT OUT

    Had exactly the same problem with exactly that same wine.

    Chucked it out. Clearly there was a duff batch. Which they might have been made aware of. Which in turn might make your task easier....
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810
    I keep getting odd hunches that Trumpton doesn’t contest Potus 2020.

    I say this as a once fully paid up member of the “we’ve got this fucking moron for eight years” brigade.

    But, I think there could be a stalking horse from the the GOP (Romney?) and, if that happens, I think Trumpton might be flushed out by a better candidate.

    Just a bizarre hunch I have developed recently.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 15,397
    edited February 5
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    A more pressing question for PB-ers. I just opened a should-be-decent £25 bottle of Chateauneuf-du-Pape I bought from M&S a few months ago.

    It is horribly corked and utterly undrinkable. But what do I do? Who keeps a receipt for wine they bought half a year back?

    I wonder how much profit wine-sellers make from wholly unacceptable wine. FFS switch to screwcaps or SORT IT OUT

    If it's knackered you shouldn't need a receipt. Don't take it back with only a glassful left in it though.
    Really? If I take the bottle back they will refund, without a receipt? Really?! I find that hard to believe. And I just poured the bastard down the sink. It was SO bad.

    Strikes me this is one huge advantage of buying wine online, from, say, Amazon Fresh. You call them up, say it is corked, and they refund in a second. Bingo.

    Hmpf
    Afaik a receipt isn't required for returning any faulty goods. In my admittedly more pedestrian experience, Majestic will replace or refund even if you just don't like the taste.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 9,547
    rcs1000 said:

    eek said:
    That is from Zerohedge.

    Nobody ever lost money doing the exact opposite of whatever Zerohedge predicts...
    Hold my beer... :)
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 19,131
    Having waited at the Opera House for a friend who was late because of a delayed vote this evening I am now downloading the CommonsVotes app. How sad is that!
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810
    kle4 said:

    Foxy said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I'm not sure I give a tiny floating scintilla of a fuckette, but I appreciate the need for the site to vary from Brexit, every so often.

    Seat T doesn't care. How sad
    Mike, I wasn't being insulting, quite the opposite. I admire your ability (at an advanced age) to keep bettors interested in things OTHER than Brexit. It is part of the site's USP, and a great credit to you.

    However, I do feel that Brexit overwhelms everything, right now, and that is how it should be. A neuralgic and internal British political argument, debated for 50 years, is reaching its grand finale. What;s more, whatever happens to Brexit has massive, important lessons for half a billion Euiropeans who might one day consider national independence, AND it has further lessons for other nations, across the globe, who might fancy their sovereign chances, head to head with elitist globalisation.

    For once, a parochial focus on our own political debate is justified. Right now we ARE the centre of world attention. Will Brexit be a total catastrophe, will a great and ancient democracy continue to soil itself in public, or will, somehow, this country pull itself together and achieve a decent result and a new self respect? Or will the Queen be evacuated to the moon?

    Compared to that, even the strangeness of America's new politics seems small beer, just right now.
    Yeah, but nothing happens on Brexit Groundhog Day. Same old arguments and delusional ideas, few betting opportunities.

    In America, Populism is about to die, and that is newsworthy, because where America goes, we follow.
    I thought they were just planning to swap rightish populism for lefty populism?

    And things happen. Some days nothing has changed, other times nothing has altered. Sometimes the EU say no, sometimes they say hell no. And sometimes the ERG and DUP are rumoured to be softening...
    It’s a shame Cortez is too young, as I think she’d win. As discussed this morning, she’d be a Scandinavian-style social democrat, were she in Europe. It is only because she is in the States that she is feared as a Lipstick Lenin.
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810
    SeanT said:

    A more pressing question for PB-ers. I just opened a should-be-decent £25 bottle of Chateauneuf-du-Pape I bought from M&S a few months ago.

    It is horribly corked and utterly undrinkable. But what do I do? Who keeps a receipt for wine they bought half a year back?

    I wonder how much profit wine-sellers make from wholly unacceptable wine. FFS switch to screwcaps or SORT IT OUT


    Just walk into Marks & Sparks and they’ll change it for you, I dare say.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 45,548
    I confess I don't know what being 'horribly corked' means for wine. What do they mess up while corking which ruins the taste?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 19,131
    kle4 said:

    I confess I don't know what being 'horribly corked' means for wine. What do they mess up while corking which ruins the taste?

    It means Sean doesn't know the difference between a corked wine and a young one.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 14,606
    _Anazina_ said:

    SeanT said:

    A more pressing question for PB-ers. I just opened a should-be-decent £25 bottle of Chateauneuf-du-Pape I bought from M&S a few months ago.

    It is horribly corked and utterly undrinkable. But what do I do? Who keeps a receipt for wine they bought half a year back?

    I wonder how much profit wine-sellers make from wholly unacceptable wine. FFS switch to screwcaps or SORT IT OUT


    Just walk into Marks & Sparks and they’ll change it for you, I dare say.
    Especially if they know who SeanT is.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 35,031
    I see we are back on PB favourite subject.....duff wine obvs.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 25,771
    _Anazina_ said:

    I keep getting odd hunches that Trumpton doesn’t contest Potus 2020.

    I say this as a once fully paid up member of the “we’ve got this fucking moron for eight years” brigade.

    But, I think there could be a stalking horse from the the GOP (Romney?) and, if that happens, I think Trumpton might be flushed out by a better candidate.

    Just a bizarre hunch I have developed recently.

    Not so bizarre. I think running and being beaten would hurt his ego massively. He will read the runes and if he isn't going to win, he'll be "the best President we ever had, because I made America great again IN ONE TERM. Job done. My work is complete....."
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 13,585
    SeanT said:

    A more pressing question for PB-ers. I just opened a should-be-decent £25 bottle of Chateauneuf-du-Pape I bought from M&S a few months ago.

    It is horribly corked and utterly undrinkable. But what do I do? Who keeps a receipt for wine they bought half a year back?

    I wonder how much profit wine-sellers make from wholly unacceptable wine. FFS switch to screwcaps or SORT IT OUT

    About that scintilla....

  • dodradedodrade Posts: 276

    So why has there been such a shift towards Senators running for President rather than Governors ?

    The relative lack of Democratic Governors?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 9,547

    I see we are back on PB favourite subject.....duff wine obvs.

    I can't do wine. Let's do best biscuits. First one to mention the best biscuit wins.

    Pause.

    HOB-NOBS!

    I win... :)
  • viewcode said:


    I can't do wine. Let's do best biscuits. First one to mention the best biscuit wins.

    Pause.

    HOB-NOBS!

    I win... :)

    Fig Rolls!

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 35,031

    viewcode said:


    I can't do wine. Let's do best biscuits. First one to mention the best biscuit wins.

    Pause.

    HOB-NOBS!

    I win... :)

    Fig Rolls!

    Are they a biscuit or a cake? No matter, IMO they are the sort of thing boxed wine drinkers eat.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 35,031
    edited February 6
    The Israeli branch of the Banksy collective, James Hallewell, have been in Newport (again).

    Graffiti artist Ame72 in surprise Port Talbot street art

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-47137188
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 9,547

    viewcode said:


    I can't do wine. Let's do best biscuits. First one to mention the best biscuit wins.

    Pause.

    HOB-NOBS!

    I win... :)

    Fig Rolls!

    Are they a biscuit or a cake? No matter, IMO they are the sort of thing boxed wine drinkers eat.
    Perhaps this will help:

    * https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/vat-food/vfood6100

  • Are they a biscuit or a cake? No matter, IMO they are the sort of thing boxed wine drinkers eat.

    Not guilty to the boxed wine charge... mind you, I'm not really an alcohol drinker so maybe if I were I'd be a boxed wine drinker? As it is I've got Dandelion & Burdock in my wine glass right at this moment. :D

    I think the fig roll is a biscuit with super powers... they defeat all other biscuits with their super power of turning soft all other biscuits that they come into contact with. ;)

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 35,031
    Last week, we had the American gay conversion homophobe coming out as gay, this week, a Dutch Islamophobe coming out as a Muslim,

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6669799/Far-right-Dutch-MP-branded-Islam-disease-announces-Muslim.html
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 11,619
    SeanT said:

    kle4 said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I'm not sure I give a tiny floating scintilla of a fuckette, but I appreciate the need for the site to vary from Brexit, every so often.

    Seat T doesn't care. How sad
    Mike, I wasn't being insulting, quite the opposite. I admire your ability (at an advanced age) to keep bettors interested in things OTHER than Brexit. It is part of the site's USP, and a great credit to you.

    However, I do feel that Brexit overwhelms everything, right now, and that is how it should be. A neuralgic and internal British political argument, debated for 50 years, is reaching its grand finale. What;s more, whatever happens to Brexit has massive, important lessons for half a billion Euiropeans who might one day consider national independence, AND it has further lessons for other nations, across the globe, who might fancy their sovereign chances, head to head with elitist globalisation.

    For once, a parochial focus on our own political debate is justified. Right now we ARE the centre of world attention. Will Brexit be a total catastrophe, will a great and ancient democracy continue to soil itself in public, or will, somehow, this country pull itself together and achieve a decent result and a new self respect? Or will the Queen be evacuated to the moon?

    Compared to that, even the strangeness of America's new politics seems small beer, just right now.
    Maybe so, but even us obsessives need a break. If this were a story it'd be all climax right now, it's exhausting.
    Oh, I quite agree, hence my diversions into food, wine and travel. But when I hear about foreign politics I tend to think: MEH, you think that's interesting and diverting, politically? You should try BREXIT. It does reign supreme. I reckon only a war could beat it for drama (however relentless, even tedious).
    The problem with Brexit is the characters aren't strong enough. I mean, TMay is kind of weirdly intriguing and Corbyn is a decent effort, but Farage is a lost opportunity and the rest... well, whatever. It works better as a subplot to the whole Trump story.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 11,619
    kle4 said:

    I confess I don't know what being 'horribly corked' means for wine. What do they mess up while corking which ruins the taste?

    They mess up by using a cork made of cork. Sometimes there's fungus in the cork, and that gets into the wine.

    The solution is to use one of the various other perfectly good methods sealing a bottle that have been available since at least the industrial revolution, but wine buyers don't like that because it feels inauthentic.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 3,622

    Last week, we had the American gay conversion homophobe coming out as gay, this week, a Dutch Islamophobe coming out as a Muslim,

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6669799/Far-right-Dutch-MP-branded-Islam-disease-announces-Muslim.html

    The next thing we know Daniel Kawczynski will be coming out as a migrant worker ...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 27,664
    I suspect Trump will win again in 2020, possibly with 35 to 40 states, up on the 30 he won last time.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 11,619

    Last week, we had the American gay conversion homophobe coming out as gay, this week, a Dutch Islamophobe coming out as a Muslim,

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6669799/Far-right-Dutch-MP-branded-Islam-disease-announces-Muslim.html

    Maybe this happens quite a lot. One of the interviews with Chris Morris talking about Four Lions mentions someone like this: Far-right activist learns about Islam to mess with immigrants' minds, and accidentally converts himself...
  • DadgeDadge Posts: 1,740
    viewcode said:

    I see we are back on PB favourite subject.....duff wine obvs.

    I can't do wine. Let's do best biscuits. First one to mention the best biscuit wins.

    Pause.

    HOB-NOBS!

    I win... :)
    1. They're called Hobnobs. 2. If you mean chocolate Hobnobs you should say so.
  • Amy Klobuchar looks like yet another Smithson special and possibly well worth a few quid at the odds of 20/1 still available from the likes of SkyBet and William Hill.
    Those who have joined PB.com over the past couple of years need to be aware that OGH is very, very smart when it comes to U.S. Election betting.
  • peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,318
    edited February 6
    O/T

    Is it too late to bet on La May leaving office as PM before 31 March? Probably, but there again she still faces enormous problems prior to Brexit day on 29/3/19. It would probably take an out and out Cabinet rebellion to persuade her to simply walk away, handing over the reins to a temporary appointee. I convinced myself that it was just about worth a couple of quid with the Betfair Exchange at 14.0 or 12.35/1 net of their 5% commission.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 11,619
    Confirmed: KLOBUCHAR is running


    Or maybe gay-marrying, but I reckon it's running.
  • asjohnstoneasjohnstone Posts: 1,160
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    A more pressing question for PB-ers. I just opened a should-be-decent £25 bottle of Chateauneuf-du-Pape I bought from M&S a few months ago.

    It is horribly corked and utterly undrinkable. But what do I do? Who keeps a receipt for wine they bought half a year back?

    I wonder how much profit wine-sellers make from wholly unacceptable wine. FFS switch to screwcaps or SORT IT OUT

    If it's knackered you shouldn't need a receipt. Don't take it back with only a glassful left in it though.
    Really? If I take the bottle back they will refund, without a receipt? Really?! I find that hard to believe. And I just poured the bastard down the sink. It was SO bad.

    Strikes me this is one huge advantage of buying wine online, from, say, Amazon Fresh. You call them up, say it is corked, and they refund in a second. Bingo.

    Hmpf
    It's M&S of course they'll refund it. It's a store where the customers are considered to be gentlemen. wouldn't work at Tesco of course
  • asjohnstoneasjohnstone Posts: 1,160
    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 27,664
    "Social media executives could be arrested and held personally liable if content that is harmful to children or vulnerable people is not taken down from their sites, a minister has suggested.

    Jackie Doyle-Price, the minister for mental health and suicide prevention, called for YouTube and Facebook, which owns Instagram, to be treated like publishers and take responsibility for material on their platforms. The government said yesterday that it would empower a regulator to control the sector and give legal force to codes of practice for social media companies."


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/social-media-giants-put-profits-before-child-safety-says-margot-james-x0b8w3gxf
  • Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    The two words inside the bracket appear to be "Cervical fluids", but I'm not 100% sure and I'm certainly not a doctor!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 13,585

    Amy Klobuchar looks like yet another Smithson special and possibly well worth a few quid at the odds of 20/1 still available from the likes of SkyBet and William Hill.
    Those who have joined PB.com over the past couple of years need to be aware that OGH is very, very smart when it comes to U.S. Election betting.

    She might surprise, particularly if Biden decides against running, but I can’t get very excited about her prospects. 40/1 was excellent odds, though.

    For now the most remarkable thing is that she is pretty well the same odds as Gabbard, who has about as much chance of capturing the nomination as I do.

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 9,931

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    Is it possible to see more of the page?

    The first word is "enlarged", I think or possibly "delayed"
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 15,563

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    The two words inside the bracket appear to be "Cervical fluids", but I'm not 100% sure and I'm certainly not a doctor!
    When I was a pharmacy student some marks used to be given for prescription reading, but this one's a toughie! I don't think that's a bracket, and I think the first word is 'enlarged'. I think it reads 'Enlarged Cervical....... So the last word can't be fluids. Old anatomical word, perhaps?

    Oh, and Good Morning, one and all.
  • hamiltonacehamiltonace Posts: 541

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    The two words inside the bracket appear to be "Cervical fluids", but I'm not 100% sure and I'm certainly not a doctor!
    My guess is they are prescribing antibiotics or anti histamines that will delay the cervical fluids but don’t recognise the drug
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 15,563
    edited February 6

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    The two words inside the bracket appear to be "Cervical fluids", but I'm not 100% sure and I'm certainly not a doctor!
    My guess is they are prescribing antibiotics or anti histamines that will delay the cervical fluids but don’t recognise the drug
    Handwriting looks to be from a time before either. Sight of the rest of the page might help.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 9,931

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    The two words inside the bracket appear to be "Cervical fluids", but I'm not 100% sure and I'm certainly not a doctor!
    When I was a pharmacy student some marks used to be given for prescription reading, but this one's a toughie! I don't think that's a bracket, and I think the first word is 'enlarged'. I think it reads 'Enlarged Cervical....... So the last word can't be fluids. Old anatomical word, perhaps?

    Oh, and Good Morning, one and all.
    It could be cervical in the neck sense, rather than the part of the uterus. There is no closing bracket, so I think it is a C.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 9,931

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    The two words inside the bracket appear to be "Cervical fluids", but I'm not 100% sure and I'm certainly not a doctor!
    My guess is they are prescribing antibiotics or anti histamines that will delay the cervical fluids but don’t recognise the drug
    Handwriting looks to be from a time before either. Sight of the rest of the page might help.
    I cannot make the first line at all, but it is the same handwriting. It looks early 20th Century to me.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 30,611
    This thread on the backstop should be essential reading. It won’t be, of course, because it identifies why the backstop is needed and why it can’t be time limited ...

  • RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 376
    edited February 6
    Foxy said:

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    The two words inside the bracket appear to be "Cervical fluids", but I'm not 100% sure and I'm certainly not a doctor!
    When I was a pharmacy student some marks used to be given for prescription reading, but this one's a toughie! I don't think that's a bracket, and I think the first word is 'enlarged'. I think it reads 'Enlarged Cervical....... So the last word can't be fluids. Old anatomical word, perhaps?

    Oh, and Good Morning, one and all.
    It could be cervical in the neck sense, rather than the part of the uterus. There is no closing bracket, so I think it is a C.
    Foxy said:

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    The two words inside the bracket appear to be "Cervical fluids", but I'm not 100% sure and I'm certainly not a doctor!
    When I was a pharmacy student some marks used to be given for prescription reading, but this one's a toughie! I don't think that's a bracket, and I think the first word is 'enlarged'. I think it reads 'Enlarged Cervical....... So the last word can't be fluids. Old anatomical word, perhaps?

    Oh, and Good Morning, one and all.
    It could be cervical in the neck sense, rather than the part of the uterus. There is no closing bracket, so I think it is a C.
    Englarged cervical glands - ie lymph nodes in the neck.

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 22,572
    Lay the favourite!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 20,479
    edited February 6
    @Richard_Tyndall

    Please go back and read the quote again.

    It says Harold won the Battle of Hastings.

    Now I appreciate somebody whose knowledge of education and history comes from the work of liar, forger and pseudoscholar Dominic Cummings is going to be overloaded with myths.

    But I think you will find if you check carefully that actually William won. That's why the entire fecking module is called 'The Norman Conquest of England 1066-1100.'

    This is one of a huge number of errors I have been coming across, although it's the daftest. For example, claims about the importance of universities in Norman England (there weren't any, Oxford being a school at the time) or that the Duke of Suffolk wasn't murdered in 1450 (astonishingly, an error that wasn't overturned on both appeal and complaint). And these are at least partly due to the rushed way your hero brought in these reforms and the incompetence he and his acolytes showed in administering them.

    As for your personal abuse about my qualifications, when you tell me you have written five history books, eight scholarly articles and worked in a university history department as a lecturer for four years I'll accept that from you, and not one second before.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 15,563
    Foxy said:

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    The two words inside the bracket appear to be "Cervical fluids", but I'm not 100% sure and I'm certainly not a doctor!
    My guess is they are prescribing antibiotics or anti histamines that will delay the cervical fluids but don’t recognise the drug
    Handwriting looks to be from a time before either. Sight of the rest of the page might help.
    I cannot make the first line at all, but it is the same handwriting. It looks early 20th Century to me.
    Good thought Dr F. How about 'Enlarged Cervical glands'? Aka lymph nodes.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 9,931

    Foxy said:

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    The two words inside the bracket appear to be "Cervical fluids", but I'm not 100% sure and I'm certainly not a doctor!
    When I was a pharmacy student some marks used to be given for prescription reading, but this one's a toughie! I don't think that's a bracket, and I think the first word is 'enlarged'. I think it reads 'Enlarged Cervical....... So the last word can't be fluids. Old anatomical word, perhaps?

    Oh, and Good Morning, one and all.
    It could be cervical in the neck sense, rather than the part of the uterus. There is no closing bracket, so I think it is a C.
    Foxy said:

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    The two words inside the bracket appear to be "Cervical fluids", but I'm not 100% sure and I'm certainly not a doctor!
    When I was a pharmacy student some marks used to be given for prescription reading, but this one's a toughie! I don't think that's a bracket, and I think the first word is 'enlarged'. I think it reads 'Enlarged Cervical....... So the last word can't be fluids. Old anatomical word, perhaps?

    Oh, and Good Morning, one and all.
    It could be cervical in the neck sense, rather than the part of the uterus. There is no closing bracket, so I think it is a C.
    Englarged cervical glands - ie lymph nodes in the neck.

    Yes, I think that is it. "Enlarged Cervical glands"

  • asjohnstoneasjohnstone Posts: 1,160
    Foxy said:

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    The two words inside the bracket appear to be "Cervical fluids", but I'm not 100% sure and I'm certainly not a doctor!
    My guess is they are prescribing antibiotics or anti histamines that will delay the cervical fluids but don’t recognise the drug
    Handwriting looks to be from a time before either. Sight of the rest of the page might help.
    I cannot make the first line at all, but it is the same handwriting. It looks early 20th Century to me.
    It's from 1868; London Seafarers medical center.

    Person involved is my great, great grandfather, who would have been 22 at the time. Thanks for all the help
  • asjohnstoneasjohnstone Posts: 1,160
    Foxy said:

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    Is it possible to see more of the page?

    The first word is "enlarged", I think or possibly "delayed"
    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/Screen+Shot+2019-02-06+at+7.49.37+PM.png
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 3,409
    Foxy said:

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    The two words inside the bracket appear to be "Cervical fluids", but I'm not 100% sure and I'm certainly not a doctor!
    My guess is they are prescribing antibiotics or anti histamines that will delay the cervical fluids but don’t recognise the drug
    Handwriting looks to be from a time before either. Sight of the rest of the page might help.
    I cannot make the first line at all, but it is the same handwriting. It looks early 20th Century to me.
    Could be glands not fluids (no dot above where the 'i' would be for fluids
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 24,318

    So why has there been such a shift towards Senators running for President rather than Governors ?

    Because the democrats don’t have that many experienced governors who are viable candidates?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 24,318
    SeanT said:

    A more pressing question for PB-ers. I just opened a should-be-decent £25 bottle of Chateauneuf-du-Pape I bought from M&S a few months ago.

    It is horribly corked and utterly undrinkable. But what do I do? Who keeps a receipt for wine they bought half a year back?

    I wonder how much profit wine-sellers make from wholly unacceptable wine. FFS switch to screwcaps or SORT IT OUT

    But wine drinking wouldn’t be nearly so much fun if there wasn’t the small risk of a double green...
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 9,931

    This thread on the backstop should be essential reading. It won’t be, of course, because it identifies why the backstop is needed and why it can’t be time limited ...

    The only way to have no customs border in NI, or at Dover for that matter, is to be in a Customs Union with close permanent alignment of agricultural and related standards. Personally I am quite happy with these, as by and large the EU regulations are well constructed but I can see why the ERG types object. Hartlepudlians much less so, I expect.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 24,318
    rcs1000 said:

    eek said:
    That is from Zerohedge.

    Nobody ever lost money doing the exact opposite of whatever Zerohedge predicts...
    Also Rudd saying to Harrington “why do t we delay Brexit for 5 years?” qualifies as “ministers discuss”
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 15,563
    edited February 6

    Foxy said:

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    Is it possible to see more of the page?

    The first word is "enlarged", I think or possibly "delayed"
    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/Screen+Shot+2019-02-06+at+7.49.37+PM.png
    Don't think it's Delayed. Sure it's Glands.

    ??? Mumps?

    Had your ancestor fathered anyone by then?
  • asjohnstoneasjohnstone Posts: 1,160

    Foxy said:

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    Is it possible to see more of the page?

    The first word is "enlarged", I think or possibly "delayed"
    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/Screen+Shot+2019-02-06+at+7.49.37+PM.png
    Don't think it's Delayed. Sure it's Glands.

    ??? Mumps?

    Had your ancestor fathered anyone by then?
    Not that we're aware of, but he had 5 children over the next decade.

    Doing some ancestry research, the Swedish archives are very difficult to work through :-(
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 24,318
    kle4 said:

    I confess I don't know what being 'horribly corked' means for wine. What do they mess up while corking which ruins the taste?

    It basically means the wine has gone off
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 24,318

    viewcode said:


    I can't do wine. Let's do best biscuits. First one to mention the best biscuit wins.

    Pause.

    HOB-NOBS!

    I win... :)

    Fig Rolls!

    Fig Newtons are far superior!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 9,931

    Foxy said:

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    Is it possible to see more of the page?

    The first word is "enlarged", I think or possibly "delayed"
    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/Screen+Shot+2019-02-06+at+7.49.37+PM.png
    Yes, Enlarged Cervical Glands does fit. It looks like an outpatient ledger, so would fit with a brief visit.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 15,563
    edited February 6

    Foxy said:

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    Is it possible to see more of the page?

    The first word is "enlarged", I think or possibly "delayed"
    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/Screen+Shot+2019-02-06+at+7.49.37+PM.png
    Don't think it's Delayed. Sure it's Glands.

    ??? Mumps?

    Had your ancestor fathered anyone by then?
    Not that we're aware of, but he had 5 children over the next decade.

    Doing some ancestry research, the Swedish archives are very difficult to work through :-(
    If it was mumps as an adult he was rather lucky to have become a father. Have you any later entries. Looks like an outpatient record, though.

    Do you know where he sailed to next?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 24,318

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    Delayed something fluids?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 9,931

    Foxy said:

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    Is it possible to see more of the page?

    The first word is "enlarged", I think or possibly "delayed"
    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/Screen+Shot+2019-02-06+at+7.49.37+PM.png
    Don't think it's Delayed. Sure it's Glands.

    ??? Mumps?

    Had your ancestor fathered anyone by then?
    Mumps or glandular fever possibly. Maybe just bad tonsillitis.

    Scurvy and Veneral for the next two, so quite a mixed clinic!
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 15,563
    edited February 6
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Sorry to go a bit off topic but I know we have some medical people here.

    I'm trying to make some sense of a historical medical record. In this picture it's the 2nd line, can anyone make sense of it ?


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/medical.png

    Is it possible to see more of the page?

    The first word is "enlarged", I think or possibly "delayed"
    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/asjohnstone/Screen+Shot+2019-02-06+at+7.49.37+PM.png
    Don't think it's Delayed. Sure it's Glands.

    ??? Mumps?

    Had your ancestor fathered anyone by then?
    Mumps or glandular fever possibly. Maybe just bad tonsillitis.

    Scurvy and Veneral for the next two, so quite a mixed clinic!
    General Medical services in the docks. Bit like being a GP; you never know what you're going to see next.

    Could the top one be "Rheumatic'? Although I know that's not really of interest!
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 24,318
    ydoethur said:

    @Richard_Tyndall

    Please go back and read the quote again.

    It says Harold won the Battle of Hastings.

    Now I appreciate somebody whose knowledge of education and history comes from the work of liar, forger and pseudoscholar Dominic Cummings is going to be overloaded with myths.

    But I think you will find if you check carefully that actually William won. That's why the entire fecking module is called 'The Norman Conquest of England 1066-1100.'

    This is one of a huge number of errors I have been coming across, although it's the daftest. For example, claims about the importance of universities in Norman England (there weren't any, Oxford being a school at the time) or that the Duke of Suffolk wasn't murdered in 1450 (astonishingly, an error that wasn't overturned on both appeal and complaint). And these are at least partly due to the rushed way your hero brought in these reforms and the incompetence he and his acolytes showed in administering them.

    As for your personal abuse about my qualifications, when you tell me you have written five history books, eight scholarly articles and worked in a university history department as a lecturer for four years I'll accept that from you, and not one second before.

    I don’t have quite in front of me but I do t think it did

    I think it is poorly written but trying to say that you can argue that Harold was a brilliant and imaginative commander - against all the odds he did incredible things and his troops nearly managed to hold out
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 20,479
    edited February 6
    Charles said:

    ydoethur said:

    @Richard_Tyndall

    Please go back and read the quote again.

    It says Harold won the Battle of Hastings.

    Now I appreciate somebody whose knowledge of education and history comes from the work of liar, forger and pseudoscholar Dominic Cummings is going to be overloaded with myths.

    But I think you will find if you check carefully that actually William won. That's why the entire fecking module is called 'The Norman Conquest of England 1066-1100.'

    This is one of a huge number of errors I have been coming across, although it's the daftest. For example, claims about the importance of universities in Norman England (there weren't any, Oxford being a school at the time) or that the Duke of Suffolk wasn't murdered in 1450 (astonishingly, an error that wasn't overturned on both appeal and complaint). And these are at least partly due to the rushed way your hero brought in these reforms and the incompetence he and his acolytes showed in administering them.

    As for your personal abuse about my qualifications, when you tell me you have written five history books, eight scholarly articles and worked in a university history department as a lecturer for four years I'll accept that from you, and not one second before.

    I don’t have quite in front of me but I do t think it did

    I think it is poorly written but trying to say that you can argue that Harold was a brilliant and imaginative commander - against all the odds he did incredible things and his troops nearly managed to hold out
    It said 'his army survived nearly the whole day to beat off William's attacks.'

    Edit - I'm not making any comment either way on Harold's ability, just making the point that this sentence without qualification is simply wrong. What I think they meant to say was 'Harold's army maintained cohesion most off the day, beating off numerous attacks by the Normans, before breaking in the afternoon.' But that's not what it says.
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