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The speaker, John Bercow, as you’d expect, gets a lot of stick from the right wing press this morning following his ruling yesterday stopping the tabling of the government motion for a third time.
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This is why I find it so hard to listen to the criticisms of Nick Timothy, who is totally culpable in this.
I don't see that Bercow has made Brexit more or less likely through this action.
Mr. rkrkrk, he did remove the slim chance of the deal going through. Perhaps more significantly, whatever dubious action he takes next in this matter will be seen in the light of what he did yesterday.
fortunately for them Labour are just as bad.
PfP got the maths right.
France is on strike today
plus ca change
http://www.lefigaro.fr/social/2019/03/18/20011-20190318ARTFIG00185-greve-les-perturbations-attendues-mardi.php
A hung parliament is just crippling.
And it's the same principle that keeps Mrs May herself in her job, Tory Party rules preventing her malcontent MPs from re-tabling a confidence vote in her for a year after the previous one.
Timothy forgot the first rule of manifesto writing: sell a programme for Government that the electorate can buy into and wins votes.
Instead he stuck all the turds that the Government wanted a mandate to do - but would normally be coy about or avoid - because he took a landslide for granted, and presented precious little positive vision of a better future to compensate.
The strategy of putting the same failing proposition to a vote over and over might have been simple, but it had become displacement activity for a government unable or unwilling to face the facts.
what do the conservatives actually stand for these days ? Cameron had no ideology and treated it like a big PR exercise. That 10 year gap is still at the heart of the conservatives and since they cant find a purpose they cant find unity.
by contrast Jezza has an ideology but its pissing off half his party and theyre too spineless to do anything about it.
I don't argue about the ruling, but I'm surprised he didn't warn the miscreants he was intending to do this. That looks like showboating.
Senior members of the shadow cabinet have told The Londoner that they understand Jeremy Corbyn would like to step down as leader of the Labour Party. The sources say that a number of those around the leader are also of the view that Corbyn, who is 70 in May, would like to pass on the reins of his surprisingly successful socialist project. One member of the shadow cabinet told us: “He’s tired and fed up.” Another: “Corbyn is ready to step down. He wants to step down.”
The government hadn't put anything down for debate, nor advised the Speaker they so intended. Bercow was reacting ahead of time on the basis of media speculation.
The track record of May at meetings with the EU27 leaders is so pisspoor that we shouldn't expect her to get much on Thursday.
The Tories chose a dud, then decided to stick with her.
Many have been saying that a half-arsed PM and a half-arsed Parliament would stumble into a half-arsed No Deal Brexit, despite it being literally the worst thing any of them could ever imagine. I am now somewhat less skeptical of that outcome than I was.
Just so brexit maniacs dont feel we're all alone, here's the Germans saying Macron is a laughing stock and France is not a serious country
https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article190488619/Gelbwesten-in-Paris-Die-Regierung-Macron-wirkt-erschreckend-hilflos.html
but just enough to fk things up for the rest of the country
These marches really f**k me off and boil my piss.
Mrs May is not good at explaining things though.
The government has to rethink properly.
https://www.thelocal.ch/20190318/swiss-mps-agree-to-pay-1-billion-for-eu-cohesion-fund
The elephant in the room was the current stand-off between Bern and Brussels over a deal that aims to set the ground rules for their future relations.
The draft of the so-called framework agreement has been years in the making. It is designed to tidy up relations which are currently based on around 20 main agreements and 100 secondary agreements.
The EU – frustrated by years of protracted talks – has repeatedly said the deal on the table is a done thing and there will be no more talks.
But within Switzerland the draft agreement has been met by a barrage of criticism, with many arguing it is dead in the water. The left argue threatens the country’s high wages by watering down salary protection measures while the right believes the document's legal mechanisms seriously threaten Switzerland’s sovereignty....
Laters guys, it's off to work I go
Cameron was a good politician as was Blair who he copied, but that isn't a compliment. May is verging on being totally useless as a politician, but retains a certain sympathy because she seems to be the only adult in the room (even with her incompetence). Dealing effectively with the squabbling children after the referendum would take the patience of a saint and the skills of a diplomat. She has neither, but at least looks as if she's trying.
One group thought they'd won and now have gone into mardy-mode after seeing the prize being sneaked away, the other group can't come to terms with being defied. Both have a strong feeling of entitlement.
Jezza was a joke pick, but is actually learning how to be a politician (brains aren't required).
The LDs have lost their gloss. Lying about pledges and not even playing lip-service to democracy doesn't fit with what it says on the tin. they'll be a long rime coming back.
I only get annoyed when they clog up the traffic
Tourists on the Abbey Road zebra crossing are more irritating
Full integration into the EU with currency, borders and defence ?
Some halfway house which is neither in nor out ?
Eating croissants while holidaying in the Dordogne ?
Can you explain
Just as Brexit has been impossible to pin down. But right now it simply means not Brexit, not this mess, and especially not Theresa May's mess.
remainers dont understand what they are seeking to remain in, therein lies a whole new set of problems
At the least it means MV3 is the last throw of the dice, and there won't be an MV4
Albert denied he said it. But I know what you mean.
I feel like a political orphan. May is incompetent, Corbyn has the brains of an intelligent cabbage, and the LDs are anything but democratic. Fortunately, the rest of the electorate seem to be joining me in my opinion of politicians.
Bercow did the government and May a favour, go back to Brussels, get an extension and find a deal that will pass through the house or hold an election to bind Tory MPs to the deal with a manifesto commitment.
If the government forces another referendum on us I would have a lot of thinking to do. And googling.
I guess that is what you think the government should do rather than what you think it will do?
how could you know what you were voting for. Youre old and stupid and blinded by buses and you were lied to.
Really Mr T stop bigging yourself up :-)
In a strange way this will focus minds on the EU and even indicate a pathway to the future.
Of course, ERG knee jerk reaction was to high five each other and whistle the great escape but, sadly, their intelligence levels are so non existent they would not realise how idiotic they look.
My concern with Bercow is that he clearly is not independent, and actively attempts to put roadblocks in front of brexit, and at the same time smirks at his own arrogance and preens like a narcissist, which is wholly unacceptable from someone who should demonstrate neutrality and even handedness at all times.
Also his attack on some of the front bench and reply to Andrea Leadsom was unacceptable, bullying, and verging on mysogyny
She is committed now to ask for a long extension. A long extension must have a purpose. Another election is preferable to another referendum.
I'd define my son as being pro-Europe. He lives and works in Copenhagen but is amused by some of their characteristics - in a very British way. He has an Irish passport but supports the English rugby team (league and union). He's marrying a Danish woman, can speak Danish, but they both speak English at home. And he'd probably have voted Remain, but remains cynical about the EU as an organisation.
The maybe 30-40 ultimate holdouts (from both ends of the party) are too much damage I would have thought...
https://twitter.com/thelastleg/status/1106681179300941835?s=21
https://twitter.com/theJeremyVine/status/1107718377336909826
Since no extension of any duration is within their gift......
In other news youve been beaten to the annual drought warning by the Environment Agency
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47620228
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-are-the-english-ready-for-self-government-1.3830474?mode=amp#.XJCYvqkt-cs.twitter
Bercow is his own worst enemy (not while I'm alive, says Andrea) - a procedurally perfectly defensible move (arguably a week late) done before the government tabled any motion, thus saving it some embarrassment, snookered by his smug pompous hectoring style.
https://twitter.com/sblack505/status/1107908941751742466