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SystemSystem Posts: 11,005
edited May 2019 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Local election night – the results trickle in with the LDs and Greens gainers in vote terms

We must remember that the majority councils are not starting their counts until the morning.

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    El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 3,870
    edited May 2019
    First like... the Greens. Or the Thurrock Independents. Or the Badgerton Residents' Association.

    Frankly I have no idea what's going on.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited May 2019
    First...unlike Labour in the Wirral.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,899
    Third like the yellows
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    nunuonenunuone Posts: 1,138
    > @FrancisUrquhart said:
    > First...unlike Labour in the Wirral.

    Or Hatlrpool
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,142
    https://twitter.com/onebsquared/status/1124105049339199489

    Didn't this guy use to be an MP?
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1124104426183114752

    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1124104790923984896
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    Peter Mayhew, the actor who played Chewbacca in the Star Wars films, has died aged 74, his family says.
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Wirral recap

    Eastham - Lib Dem HOLD

    Bromborough - Labour HOLD

    Greasby, Frankby and Irby - Con HOLD

    Hoylake and Meols - HOLD

    Claughton - Labour HOLD

    New Brighton - Lab HOLD

    Pensby and Thingwall - Con GAIN

    Rock Ferry - Labour GAIN

    Prenton - Green GAIN

    Wallasey - Con HOLD

    Leasowe and Moreton East - Lab HOLD

    Bebington - Labour HOLD

    Oxton - Lib Dem GAIN

    Birkenhead and Tranmere - Green GAIN

    Upton - Labour HOLD

    Seacombe - Labour HOLD

    Moreton West and Saughall Massie - Con HOLD

    Bidston and St James - Lab HOLD
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    Thayer5Thayer5 Posts: 97
    edited May 2019
    > @rottenborough said:
    > https://twitter.com/onebsquared/status/1124105049339199489
    >
    > Didn't this guy use to be an MP?<

    ______

    Bless. He looks like Worzel Gummidge after a bad night on Ketamine.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    > @Thayer5 said:
    > > @rottenborough said:
    > > https://twitter.com/onebsquared/status/1124105049339199489
    > >
    > > Didn't this guy use to be an MP?<
    >
    > ______
    >
    > Bless. He looks like Worzel Gummidge after a bad night on Ketamine.

    LOL - I can see what you mean
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    > @El_Capitano said:
    > First like... the Greens. Or the Thurrock Independents. Or the Badgerton Residents' Association.
    >
    > Frankly I have no idea what's going on.

    But it is interesting
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,142
    Another Veterans gain:

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124106722153463811
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    There were only 300 spoilt papers in Sunderland, which has about a quarter of a million voters in total.
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    Democrats & Veterans gain off Labour in Barnsley.

    Not to be confused with the similarly victorious Veterans & People's Party of Hartlepool.
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    RightChuckRightChuck Posts: 110
    So far this looks like it's bolstering Corbyn, not Starmer.
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    NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,318
    > @rottenborough said:
    > https://twitter.com/onebsquared/status/1124105049339199489
    >
    > Didn't this guy use to be an MP?

    He did. A keen Catholic, as I recall - was dubious about abortion etc., I think, though I may be wrong.

    There was some surprise when I predicted a good LibDem night some weeks ago, but I try to describe things as I see them...
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    Bob__SykesBob__Sykes Posts: 1,176
    Tory vote seems to be holding up, or increasing vs Labour, in the seats I've seen declared in Bury MBC where I live. LDs just stolen a seat off Labour 1900 to 1000 - was Lab majority of 50 before. Tories just stolen Radcliffe North from Labour 1500 to 1000.
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    not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,341
    Suspect tonight’s results are the death knell for a 2nd referendum
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    > @not_on_fire said:
    > Suspect tonight’s results are the death knell for a 2nd referendum

    Don't tell Tom Baldwin on Sky News....
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    Bob__SykesBob__Sykes Posts: 1,176
    > @not_on_fire said:
    > Suspect tonight’s results are the death knell for a 2nd referendum

    And for a GE in 2019 or 2020 I expect.
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    El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 3,870
    RightChuck said:

    So far this looks like it's bolstering Corbyn, not Starmer.

    I'm not so sure. I think we're seeing Corbyn's policy of equivocation unravelling before our eyes.

    Labour aren't just losing votes to the Conservatives and UKIP, they're losing to the Lib Dems and Greens. It turns out that on Brexit, if you try to appeal to everyone, you appeal to no-one.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1124107342797209601
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    Thayer5Thayer5 Posts: 97
    edited May 2019
    > @RightChuck said:
    > So far this looks like it's bolstering Corbyn, not Starmer.<

    _____

    Only as regards Brexit. In terms of overall election-winning (surely more important than Brexit) then it is catastrophic for Corbyn. He is LOSING support and votes, not winning, against a tired and terrible government.

    Any normal party would boot Jezza out tomorrow. Of course, Labour is no longer a normal party, it has been seized by the mad and the bad.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    Bob__Sykes said:

    > @not_on_fire said:

    > Suspect tonight’s results are the death knell for a 2nd referendum



    And for a GE in 2019 or 2020 I expect.

    Yes, none of the Tories, Labour or (especially) CUK want to go anywhere near the electorate any time soon....
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Swindon final

    Con +1
    Lab -1

    Harlow final
    no change
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2019
    > @AndreaParma_82 said:
    > Swindon final
    >
    > Con +1
    > Lab -1
    >
    > Harlow final
    > no change

    Usually Tamworth has declared by now, but I can't find any information. They are supposed to be counting tonight. UKIP could do very well there. They have candidates in all 10 wards.
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    El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 3,870
    edited May 2019
    https://twitter.com/hertsad/status/1124107646318075904

    That's a BIG swing.
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    justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    > @RightChuck said:
    > So far this looks like it's bolstering Corbyn, not Starmer.

    Yes - these seem to be pretty poor results for Labour overall. Perhaps the effect will be to increase the likelihood of a deal with May!
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    Thayer5Thayer5 Posts: 97
    edited May 2019
    > @El_Capitano said:
    > So far this looks like it's bolstering Corbyn, not Starmer.
    >
    > I'm not so sure. I think we're seeing Corbyn's policy of equivocation unravelling before our eyes.
    >
    > Labour aren't just losing votes to the Conservatives and UKIP, they're losing to the Lib Dems and Greens. It turns out that on Brexit, if you try to appeal to everyone, you appeal to no-one.<

    ______

    Yes, I think that's right.

    Labour will finally have to decide where they stand on Brexit. It will be painful.
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    > @CarlottaVance said:
    > https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1124107342797209601

    The Greens are seen as a protest vote in Leave areas as well, IMO. I can't explain away the Lib Dems so easily, mind.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    > @El_Capitano said:
    > So far this looks like it's bolstering Corbyn, not Starmer.
    >
    > I'm not so sure. I think we're seeing Corbyn's policy of equivocation unravelling before our eyes.
    >
    > Labour aren't just losing votes to the Conservatives and UKIP, they're losing to the Lib Dems and Greens. It turns out that on Brexit, if you try to appeal to everyone, you appeal to no-one.

    Except, for the past few months, it's not been a policy of equivocation; it's been a policy of voting against Brexit / for Brexit delays at any opportunity, and for a second referendum twice.

    And it's a policy which has meant much worse results for Labour than when they genuinely had a policy of equivocation, in 2017.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,142
    Notts news:

    https://twitter.com/SandemanKit/status/1124089116696748032
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Liverpool recap

    Norris Green - Labour HOLD

    Riverside - Labour HOLD

    St Michael’s - Greens HOLD

    Liscard - Labour HOLD

    Knotty Ash - Labour HOLD

    Fazakerley - Labour HOLD

    Church - Lib Dems HOLD

    Belle Vale - Labour HOLD

    Old Swan - Labour HOLD

    Allerton & Hunts Cross - Labour HOLD

    Speke and Garston - Labour HOLD

    Princes Park - Labour HOLD

    County - Labour HOLD

    Central - Labour HOLD

    Croxteth - Labour HOLD

    Anfield - Labour HOLD

    Warbreck - Labour HOLD

    Tuebrook & Stoneycroft - Liberals GAIN

    Mossley Hill - Labour HOLD

    Cressington - Labour HOLD

    Woolton - Lib Dems GAIN

    Clubmoor - Labour HOLD

    Childwall - Lib Dems GAIN

    Kirkdale - Labour HOLD

    Wavertree - Labour HOLD

    West Derby - Labour HOLD

    Yewtree - Labour HOLD

    Almost the same as last year apart Greens getting only 1 this time (2 in 2018)
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    > @rottenborough said:
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    >
    > Notts news:
    >
    > https://twitter.com/SandemanKit/status/1124089116696748032

    Somebody didn't get the memo.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,142
    https://twitter.com/Colchesterviews/status/1124106597079355392
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    Bob__SykesBob__Sykes Posts: 1,176
    edited May 2019
    > @justin124 said:
    > > @RightChuck said:
    > > So far this looks like it's bolstering Corbyn, not Starmer.
    >
    > Yes - these seem to be pretty poor results for Labour overall. Perhaps the effect will be to increase the likelihood of a deal with May!

    The Times today suggested it is virtually wrapped up, with both sides expecting 170 of their MPs to back it, so 340 votes at least and a majority. Tonight's results will be focusing Labour minds even more firmly!
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    > @FrancisUrquhart said:
    > > @rottenborough said:
    > >
    > >
    > > Notts news:
    > >
    > > https://twitter.com/SandemanKit/status/1124089116696748032
    >
    > Somebody didn't get the memo.

    Or rather did but hasn't been checking their phone recently.
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    El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 3,870
    AndreaParma_82 said:

    Tuebrook & Stoneycroft - Liberals GAIN

    And note that's Liberals, not Liberal Democrats.
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    Thayer5Thayer5 Posts: 97
    > @Bob__Sykes said:
    > > @justin124 said:
    > > > @RightChuck said:
    > > > So far this looks like it's bolstering Corbyn, not Starmer.
    > >
    > > Yes - these seem to be pretty poor results for Labour overall. Perhaps the effect will be to increase the likelihood of a deal with May!
    >
    > The Times today suggested it is virtually wrapped up, with both sides expecting 170 of their MPs to back it, so 340 votes at least and a majority. Tonight's results will be focusing Labour miners even more firmly!<

    ______

    If Theresa May agrees to a permanent Customs Union membership, forever taking rules from Brussels, then she will have "resigned" by the weekend.

    She can't and won't. Unless she is now entirely careless.
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    justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    > @Bob__Sykes said:
    > > @justin124 said:
    > > > @RightChuck said:
    > > > So far this looks like it's bolstering Corbyn, not Starmer.
    > >
    > > Yes - these seem to be pretty poor results for Labour overall. Perhaps the effect will be to increase the likelihood of a deal with May!
    >
    > The Times today suggested it is virtually wrapped up, with both sides expecting 170 of their MPs to back it, so 340 votes at least and a majority. Tonight's results will be focusing Labour minds even more firmly!

    That is interesting!
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    > @rottenborough said:
    > https://twitter.com/Colchesterviews/status/1124106597079355392

    That surely has to be some local issue....Being pissed off with the Tories and jumping past the Lib Dems, past Labour and ending up even further left with the Greens is quite a conversion for the average man in the street.
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Con gain walsall
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    The Tories have gained Walsall.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,142
    El_Capitano said:

    RightChuck said:

    So far this looks like it's bolstering Corbyn, not Starmer.

    I'm not so sure. I think we're seeing Corbyn's policy of equivocation unravelling before our eyes.

    Labour aren't just losing votes to the Conservatives and UKIP, they're losing to the Lib Dems and Greens. It turns out that on Brexit, if you try to appeal to everyone, you appeal to no-one.
    It would take a heart of stone etc etc.

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    nunuonenunuone Posts: 1,138
    O.k, we are seeing a real realignment in British politics now.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ITVCentral/status/1124108161684856832
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,142
    Notts:

    The turnout in Nottingham city is 29% with 61,292 votes cast out of a total electorate of 211,371
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    NeilVWNeilVW Posts: 703
    edited May 2019
    Danny565 said:

    > @El_Capitano said:

    > So far this looks like it's bolstering Corbyn, not Starmer.

    >

    > I'm not so sure. I think we're seeing Corbyn's policy of equivocation unravelling before our eyes.

    >

    > Labour aren't just losing votes to the Conservatives and UKIP, they're losing to the Lib Dems and Greens. It turns out that on Brexit, if you try to appeal to everyone, you appeal to no-one.



    Except, for the past few months, it's not been a policy of equivocation; it's been a policy of voting against Brexit / for Brexit delays at any opportunity, and for a second referendum twice.


    They also voted for a soft Brexit. And did not opt for a referendum in their EU elections manifesto, while keeping it vaguely on the table. The general impression is muddle and they are falling between two stools.


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    Bob__SykesBob__Sykes Posts: 1,176
    > @Thayer5 said:
    > > @Bob__Sykes said:
    > > > @justin124 said:
    > > > > @RightChuck said:
    > > > > So far this looks like it's bolstering Corbyn, not Starmer.
    > > >
    > > > Yes - these seem to be pretty poor results for Labour overall. Perhaps the effect will be to increase the likelihood of a deal with May!
    > >
    > > The Times today suggested it is virtually wrapped up, with both sides expecting 170 of their MPs to back it, so 340 votes at least and a majority. Tonight's results will be focusing Labour miners even more firmly!<
    >
    > ______
    >
    > If Theresa May agrees to a permanent Customs Union membership, forever taking rules from Brussels, then she will have "resigned" by the weekend.
    >
    > She can't and won't. Unless she is now entirely careless.

    The piece said the fudge is that it's a temporary customs union of sorts until 2022 with the Tories then free to campaign in GE 2022 for replacement with a frictionless alternative if such a thing exists and Labour to campaign for a permanent CU. Whoever wins gets into power and implements their preferred option. Make of that what you will...
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    > @nunuone said:
    > O.k, we are seeing a real realignment in British politics now.
    >
    > https://mobile.twitter.com/ITVCentral/status/1124108161684856832

    WTF is going on LOL
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Chorley

    Lab +5

    Con -5
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    brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    edited May 2019
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    > @rottenborough said:

    >

    https://twitter.com/Colchesterviews/status/1124106597079355392




    That surely has to be some local issue....Being pissed off with the Tories and jumping past the Lib Dems, past Labour and ending up even further left with the Greens is quite a conversion for the average man in the street.
    The average man on the street doesn’t necessarily see the Greens, especially locally, as hard Remain watermelons that those of us who follow politics know their leaders are like. In fact outside the major population centres you’ll find plenty of Green activists who are pretty eurosceptic for instance. Many see them as mostly harmless, if I bit quirky, environmentalists. So they are a relatively “safe” protest vote.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,142
    Hold on, Peterborough? Name sounds familiar...

    https://twitter.com/TheGreenParty/status/1124109324731727875
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    > @FrancisUrquhart said:
    > > @rottenborough said:
    > > https://twitter.com/Colchesterviews/status/1124106597079355392
    >
    > That surely has to be some local issue....Being pissed off with the Tories and jumping past the Lib Dems, past Labour and ending up even further left with the Greens is quite a conversion for the average man in the street.

    Some of the Lib Dem councillors are great - the only reason my local one didn't get my vote is I refuse to support such a europhile party
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,141
    > @FrancisUrquhart said:
    > That surely has to be some local issue....Being pissed off with the Tories and jumping past the Lib Dems, past Labour and ending up even further left with the Greens is quite a conversion for the average man in the street.

    The Greens can sometimes win support from fairly right-wing people who wouldn't consider voting Labour. Green things are pretty and everybody likes the environment.
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    > @FrancisUrquhart said:
    > > @rottenborough said:
    > > https://twitter.com/Colchesterviews/status/1124106597079355392
    >
    > That surely has to be some local issue....Being pissed off with the Tories and jumping past the Lib Dems, past Labour and ending up even further left with the Greens is quite a conversion for the average man in the street.

    I should imagine many voters see the Greens as a single issue party only - they like the environment - and don't equate them with pro-EU, so many Leavers will have placed their protest cross in the Green box today, for lack of any Independent/UKIP option.
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Epping Forest

    COn -2
    Greens +1
    LD +1
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,419
    > @FrancisUrquhart said:
    > > @rottenborough said:
    > > https://twitter.com/Colchesterviews/status/1124106597079355392
    >
    > That surely has to be some local issue....Being pissed off with the Tories and jumping past the Lib Dems, past Labour and ending up even further left with the Greens is quite a conversion for the average man in the street.

    The Greens do not always advertise their far-left policies. They can easily aim for the same sort of thing that a Lib Dem candidate aspired to be before 2010.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited May 2019
    > @NeilVW said:
    > They also voted for a soft Brexit. And did not opt for a referendum in their EU elections manifesto, while keeping it vaguely on the table. The general impression is muddle and they are falling between two stools.

    That's not the general impression. YouGov had 42% of people describing Labour as anti-Brexit (more than Change UK, for example, and only a bit less than the Greens) while the % describing Labour as pro-Brexit was a "moon landings were faked"-esque 13%.

    And tonight's showing how well a "party of Remain" does.
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    Bob__SykesBob__Sykes Posts: 1,176
    Another labour loss in Bury MBC - this time ultra safe Radcliffe East to an independent.
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    Thayer5Thayer5 Posts: 97
    edited May 2019
    > @edmundintokyo said:
    > > @FrancisUrquhart said:
    > > That surely has to be some local issue....Being pissed off with the Tories and jumping past the Lib Dems, past Labour and ending up even further left with the Greens is quite a conversion for the average man in the street.
    >
    > The Greens can sometimes win support from fairly right-wing people who wouldn't consider voting Labour. Green things are pretty and everybody likes the environment. <

    _______

    Yes, I have voted Green several times, for that reason (especially locally or in the euros). I don't want them to govern me, but I do care about the environment and I get a little moral dopamine hit when I vote that way.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,142
    https://twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/1124109922835357696
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,039
    > @nunuone said:
    > O.k, we are seeing a real realignment in British politics now.
    >
    > https://mobile.twitter.com/ITVCentral/status/1124108161684856832

    It looks like Grimsby will have a Conservative council as well.

    Meanwhile the Conservatives are likely to lose numerous councils in the London stockbroker belt.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Looks like it could be difficult for Labour to win the projected national share.
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    El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 3,870
    edited May 2019
    Retreating to sleep now the direction of travel is clear. Probably 4hr30 until a toddler crawls on my head. I suspect I may actually not mind being woken up if it continues to be this insane.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,039
    > @edmundintokyo said:
    > > @FrancisUrquhart said:
    > > That surely has to be some local issue....Being pissed off with the Tories and jumping past the Lib Dems, past Labour and ending up even further left with the Greens is quite a conversion for the average man in the street.
    >
    > The Greens can sometimes win support from fairly right-wing people who wouldn't consider voting Labour. Green things are pretty and everybody likes the environment.

    And as the Greens are never in government they never have a record to defend.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    > @rottenborough said:
    > twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/1124109922835357696

    I do wonder if the VI polling is struggling to pick up everything, especially now there are 27,000 parties.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,899
    I don't think Labour will win the euros based off this lot.
    Also I think we are seeing that basically even if there is a small remain majority, in terms of FPTP most seats will be leave.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited May 2019
    > @another_richard said:
    > > @nunuone said:
    > > O.k, we are seeing a real realignment in British politics now.
    > >
    > > https://mobile.twitter.com/ITVCentral/status/1124108161684856832
    >
    > It looks like Grimsby will have a Conservative council as well.
    >
    > Meanwhile the Conservatives are likely to lose numerous councils in the London stockbroker belt.

    Obviously Brexit and its pretty safe to make a protest vote...you don't have to worry about waking up to find a Marxist CoE coming for your dosh.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    > @Pulpstar said:
    > I don't think Labour will win the euros based off this lot.
    > Also I think we are seeing that basically even if there is a small remain majority, in terms of FPTP most seats will be leave.

    Yes, these results would suggest it could be close between Tory and Labour at the Euros.
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    > @another_richard said:
    > > @nunuone said:
    > > O.k, we are seeing a real realignment in British politics now.
    > >
    > > https://mobile.twitter.com/ITVCentral/status/1124108161684856832
    >
    > It looks like Grimsby will have a Conservative council as well.
    >
    > Meanwhile the Conservatives are likely to lose numerous councils in the London stockbroker belt.

    We are seeing Labour increasingly become a southern, middle class party and the Tories representing the 'left-behind'. You couldn't make it up, but such is how far Labour have fallen from representing their socially centre-right, economically centre-left northern base.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    > @Pulpstar said:
    > I don't think Labour will win the euros based off this lot.
    > Also I think we are seeing that basically even if there is a small remain majority, in terms of FPTP most seats will be leave.

    While we have had the millions signing the pro-remain online petition, it seems millions of quiet folk are making their pro-brexit protest at the ballot box.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,142
    https://twitter.com/Hitchenor1609/status/1124111942442999808
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,039
    > @rottenborough said:
    > https://twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/1124109922835357696

    To put a 19% LibDem NEV into perspective they got 26% in 2007 and 30% in 2003.
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    Bob__SykesBob__Sykes Posts: 1,176
    Now Labour take one off the Tories in Bury - by 16 votes!
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,198
    KentRising said:

    Democrats & Veterans gain off Labour in Barnsley.



    Not to be confused with the similarly victorious Veterans & People's Party of Hartlepool.

    Splitters!
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,198
    another_richard said:

    > @nunuone said:

    > O.k, we are seeing a real realignment in British politics now.

    >

    > https://mobile.twitter.com/ITVCentral/status/1124108161684856832



    It looks like Grimsby will have a Conservative council as well.



    Meanwhile the Conservatives are likely to lose numerous councils in the London stockbroker belt.

    London voted last year.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,039
    > @KentRising said:
    > > @another_richard said:
    > > > @nunuone said:
    > > > O.k, we are seeing a real realignment in British politics now.
    > > >
    > > > https://mobile.twitter.com/ITVCentral/status/1124108161684856832
    > >
    > > It looks like Grimsby will have a Conservative council as well.
    > >
    > > Meanwhile the Conservatives are likely to lose numerous councils in the London stockbroker belt.
    >
    > We are seeing Labour increasingly become a southern, middle class party and the Tories representing the 'left-behind'. You couldn't make it up, but such is how far Labour have fallen from representing their socially centre-right, economically centre-left northern base.

    Home ownership is a key issue.

    Where house are affordable we see swings to the right.

    where houses are unaffordable we see swings to the left.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,899
    Labour look to be doing best anywhere with a commuting line to London..
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,286
    edited May 2019
    BBC KEY WARDS - change vs 2015 (almost half results now in):

    Lab -4
    Con -3
    LD +6
    Green +3
    UKIP -6
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,899
    > @Sunil_Prasannan said:
    > > @nunuone said:
    >
    > > O.k, we are seeing a real realignment in British politics now.
    >
    > >
    >
    > > https://mobile.twitter.com/ITVCentral/status/1124108161684856832
    >
    >
    >
    > It looks like Grimsby will have a Conservative council as well.
    >
    >
    >
    > Meanwhile the Conservatives are likely to lose numerous councils in the London stockbroker belt.
    >
    > London voted last year.

    The commuter belt votes this year tho
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    nunuonenunuone Posts: 1,138
    > @rottenborough said:
    > https://twitter.com/Hitchenor1609/status/1124111942442999808

    Wow
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    DadgeDadge Posts: 2,038
    > @nunuone said:
    > O.k, we are seeing a real realignment in British politics now.
    >
    > https://mobile.twitter.com/ITVCentral/status/1124108161684856832

    Don't go overboard... Walsall has had a Tory council often enough before.
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    Thayer5Thayer5 Posts: 97
    I think we can all go to bed now.

    Labour are down 4%, Tories down 3%. I know this is a hostage to fortune, but I don't think this will change much,

    Both main parties are getting a slapping, but given the electoral cycle, and the dire state of Brexit, this is much less alarming for the Tories than it is for Labour.

    Goodnight all. I expect to be humiliated tomorrow with a shock Labour triumph, or maybe a total Green victory, heralding a Caroline Lucas premiership.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    > @MikeL said:
    > BBC KEY WARDS - change vs 2015 (almost half results now in):
    >
    > Lab -4
    > Con -3
    > LD +6
    > Green +3
    > UKIP -6

    Labour will lucky to keep the Tory national lead under 5% at this rate.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,142
    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124113657028280326
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    > @Pulpstar said:
    > Labour look to be doing best anywhere with a commuting line to London..

    Renationalise the railways.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,039
    > @Pulpstar said:
    > Labour look to be doing best anywhere with a commuting line to London..

    Which I suspect will have a strong correlation to unaffordable housing.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,142
    LibDem 70% !!!!!!!
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,958
    edited May 2019
    I was promised a terrrrible night for the conservatives. :(
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    > @rottenborough said:
    > LibDem 70% !!!!!!!

    Who are these Lib Dem party? Are they a new party?
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    SaltireSaltire Posts: 525
    > @nunuone said:
    > > @rottenborough said:
    > > https://twitter.com/Hitchenor1609/status/1124111942442999808
    >
    > Wow

    And losing badly in some cases...

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124113657028280326
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,142
    What the hell is happening in Barnsley?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited May 2019
    Are the political parties not bothering to send their representatives onto Sky News? As it seems to be Open Europe and People Vote people anchoring the reaction.
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Ma Beckett says lab lost ground In derby
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,142
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    > @rottenborough said:

    > LibDem 70% !!!!!!!



    Who are these Lib Dem party? Are they a new party?

    Must be.
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    > @rottenborough said:
    > What the hell is happening in Barnsley?

    Was there "a scandal" there too?
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    DoubleCarpetDoubleCarpet Posts: 706
    Patrick O'Flynn sporting an SDP rosette!!
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,142
    dyedwoolie said:

    Ma Beckett says lab lost ground In derby

    Yes, well, she was one of the handful of idiots who put Jezza on the ballot.
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    edited May 2019
    > @DoubleCarpet said:
    > Patrick O'Flynn sporting an SDP rosette!!

    He is their Peterborough by election candidate
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,039
    > @rottenborough said:
    > What the hell is happening in Barnsley?

    Fortunate for Labour that there are no elections in Doncaster and Rotherham.

    I wonder if we might see the amazing sight of a Conservative elected in Bolsover.
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