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imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » There’s something rather magnificent about the way TMay just keeps keeps hanging in there

So another day and another key confrontation for TMay over when she is going to finally step down as CON leader and Prime Minister. Like all  others suc key moments, it seems, she has found a way to get a key decision deferred till next week or the week after with the result that the pressure for now is offloaded. This is wonderful to watch.

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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 76,403
    C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la politique.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 31,044
    edited May 8
    - "Theresa, you switched off your targeting computer! What's wrong?"
    - "Nothing has changed! I'm alright!"
  • PendduPenddu Posts: 233
    Maybot..., sticking like sh1t to a blanket...
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 15,162
    The Good Ship May Sails On Serenely...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 25,893
    OMFG.....
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 45,631
    > > @TheValiant said:
    > > A question (or some ramblings) for all on PB this evening.
    > > We’re two weeks away from the EU Parliamentary elections, which doesn’t fill me with joy. An elected body with only limited powers in the EU. To add to which, our returned MEPs, in theory, should only serve about four months before they are redundant. It wouldn’t be unreasonable to say that these elections could be the most pointless election I’ve ever partaken in.
    > >
    > > So, who do I vote for?
    > >
    > > I’m pretty much a Lib Dem, and tend to vote for them locally (and did last week) and often nationally but I’m also a Leaver and stopped supporting them after 2016. I don’t support No Deal (so that rules out the Brexit Party and UKIP nutters), and I don’t support Remain (so that rules out LD, Green and ChUK). I’m in England, so that also rules out any nationalist party. I probably would’ve preferred an EEA/EFTA arrangement (actually rejoining EFTA) but that ship appears to have sailed.
    > >
    > > My family, on all sides (wife and my own) being good Merseyside lot, are ‘Donkey with Red Rosette’ voters. They vote Labour because they vote Labour. But I don’t, and haven’t since 1997 and regretted it instantly after I did. I don’t want to vote Labour. I’ve no idea what they stand for on Brexit, and to be fair, I doubt they know either.
    > >
    > > I broadly support the Deal, see it as a way forward and all things can be negotiated later once we are out the EU. It should be a no brainer, I should vote Conservative in two weeks time.
    > >
    > > But on the other hand, I see the current state of that party, and of the government. A leader with an ear so tin you could give it as a 10th wedding anniversary present. Wings of the party at war with each other, the payroll vote and any other group they can find. Nutters from Dominic Grieve to Mark Francois. A tired, clapped out party nine years in government that can’t sort anything out.
    > >
    > > So, who do I vote for?
    >
    > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    > While SandyRentool's advice to consider non-Brexit issues is, of course, sound, if on the Brexit issue you are broadly supportive of the (current) formal Tory position, then a vote for them need not be taken as endorsement of their overall rank incompetence. Almost everyone is going to interpret the EP election proportions as signifiying support for the underlying Brexit position of the respective parties, so we all may as well just pick on that basis as well.
    >
    > If not on Brexit position then there are two options as I see it. Either vote to punish a specific party most deserving of ire or try to vote for the most hilarious outcome.
    >
    > I'm still minded to vote CUK just to encourage new parties. Plus it would be very funny if they came above either the Greens or LDs.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 76,403
    edited May 8
    Fucking hell.

    Spurs do it.

    IMAGINE NOT LIKING FOOTBALL.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 11,443
    Bugger.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 25,535
    edited May 8
    > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > Fuck hell.
    >
    > Spurs do it.
    >
    > IMAGINE NOT LIKING FOOTBALL.

    Just fantastic - all english final plus possible Chelsea v Arsenal tomorrow
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 29,500
    > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > Fuck hell.
    >
    > Spurs do it.
    >
    > IMAGINE NOT LIKING FOOTBALL.

    I don't.

    Can we not do it on here please?

    This is a political betting site.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 25,893
    I think "Spursy" might have to get deleted from the Oxford English Disctionary......
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 11,443
    > @Casino_Royale said:
    > > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > > Fuck hell.
    > >
    > > Spurs do it.
    > >
    > > IMAGINE NOT LIKING FOOTBALL.
    >
    > I don't.
    >
    > Can we not do it on here please?
    >
    > This is a political betting site.

    Just imagine Big Ben has struck 10 and Dimbleby says it’s a landslide for Corbyn. That’s where I am right now.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 76,403
    Well lay England for the Nations League.

    England's semi final for that is less than a week after the Liverpool v Spurs Champions League final, cannot see any Liverpool or Spurs players being ready for those England matches.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 26,078
    What odds would you have got on an all-English final yesterday lunchtime?
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,026
    PM's cling onto power as long as possible - nothing new in this. They either wait for the electorate to dispatch them or keep deferring an exit, it is forgotten Tony Blair for instance kept getting a bit more time when Gordon Brown pressed him for a timetable for departure. Blair wanted to get the renewal of Trident through amongst other things it was said. Brown was the same when it came to his turn to leave as did Major. Cameron walked because he had been humiliated. Thatcher's ultimate removal took years despite unsuccessful attempts in 1989, a full year before she finally went and she wanted to fight on even in 1990.

    I think Harold Wilson is the last PM to voluntarily go and even then it may have been increasingly poor health that drove that decision.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 31,044
    Well done to Spurs!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 76,403
    Can someone check on Scrapheap please.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 29,500
    FPT - @TheValiant I'm voting Conservative for the reasons you describe.

    It's a matter of endorsing the right strategy and policy for me, and not punishing or rewarding the bad behaviour of the minority.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 1,359
    edited May 8
    > @Casino_Royale said:
    > > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > > Fuck hell.
    > >
    > > Spurs do it.
    > >
    > > IMAGINE NOT LIKING FOOTBALL.
    >
    > I don't.
    >
    > Can we not do it on here please?
    >
    > This is a political betting site.

    English football is currently playing yang to Brexit's yin. Political enough?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 24,414

    OMFG.....

    So what happens now?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 45,631
    I gave May plenty of credit for a long time but she passed the point of usefulness some time ago and her resilience has gone from a virtue into a vice.

    That said, one can praise positive qualities even in a villain (and May is more tragic than villainous despite authoring many a misfortune), and it is impressive she is still there, howeve weakened. Given we know many in Cabinet want to replace her and do not like things she has proposed, the fact they are still there and have not majorly split in recent months suggests that they really do believe, as she does, that alternative options are even worse. That says something about May, however much she cannot get us out of this hole.
    ----------------------
    > @Casino_Royale said:
    > > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > > Fuck hell.
    > >
    > > Spurs do it.
    > >
    > > IMAGINE NOT LIKING FOOTBALL.
    >
    > I don't.
    >
    > Can we not do it on here please?
    >
    > This is a political betting site.
    --------------------
    Tough, diversions are the name of the game here. First football, then not Cricket, F1, classical history, gardening or, god forbid, puns. Lighten up.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 53,591
    MoTM Hugo Lloris right post
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 76,403
    edited May 8
    JOHNNY MERCER HAS LEFT THE TORY PARTY IN ALL BUT NAME
  • glwglw Posts: 5,253
    Seriously I don't even know which is the better comeback. A completely ridiculous couple of matches back to back.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 9,537
    Spurs fans will need deep pockets - £1,500 from Gatwick to Madrid and back.

    Well done THFC.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 28,060
    > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > JOHNNY MERCER HAS LEFT THE TORY PARTY

    To join another?
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 718
    I find "magnificent" a weird word for it.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 25,535
    > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > JOHNNY MERCER HAS LEFT THE TORY PARTY IN ALL BUT NAME

    Where has he gone
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 8,913
    edited May 8
    Not quite - but resigned the whip for the time being.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 29,500
    > @kle4 said:
    > I gave May plenty of credit for a long time but she passed the point of usefulness some time ago and her resilience has gone from a virtue into a vice.
    >
    > That said, one can praise positive qualities even in a villain (and May is more tragic than villainous despite authoring many a misfortune), and it is impressive she is still there, howeve weakened. Given we know many in Cabinet want to replace her and do not like things she has proposed, the fact they are still there and have not majorly split in recent months suggests that they really do believe, as she does, that alternative options are even worse. That says something about May, however much she cannot get us out of this hole.
    > ----------------------
    > > @Casino_Royale said:
    > > > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > > > Fuck hell.
    > > >
    > > > Spurs do it.
    > > >
    > > > IMAGINE NOT LIKING FOOTBALL.
    > >
    > > I don't.
    > >
    > > Can we not do it on here please?
    > >
    > > This is a political betting site.
    > --------------------
    > Tough, diversions are the name of the game here. First football, then not Cricket, F1, classical history, gardening or, god forbid, puns. Lighten up.

    The rhetorical question was put: I answered it.

    I am light but have zero interest in football and - quite frankly - hate the sport.

    There are plenty of places all over the Internet to be bored to tears by football chat.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 9,537


    apologies for rude word in tweet, but it made me laugh.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 76,403
    Sean_F said:

    > @TheScreamingEagles said:

    > JOHNNY MERCER HAS LEFT THE TORY PARTY



    To join another?

    He'll be voting only for Brexit, he'll be voting against the government on all other business until they stop prosecuting veterans.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 45,631
    > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > JOHNNY MERCER HAS LEFT THE TORY PARTY IN ALL BUT NAME

    So much for future leader. The Tory-DUP majority now at, what, 1? I see he even clarifies he won't back any non-Brexit legislation (even if he supports it I guess) until his specific demands are met.
  • SirBenjaminSirBenjamin Posts: 187
    Wake me up when two *Tory* teams triumph against the odds at the highest level on successive evenings...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 25,893
    > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > JOHNNY MERCER HAS LEFT THE TORY PARTY IN ALL BUT NAME

    He's become the first MP for the British Legion....
  • NemtynakhtNemtynakht Posts: 1,532
    There’s something of the great cricketing defensive batting displays about May. She has one or two shots and is grinding out an innings
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 29,500
    > @Tissue_Price said:
    > Not quite - but resigned the whip for the time being.

    Blast. That's that bet down the toilet.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 8,913
    Barca, then Ajax? Cruyff will be turning in his grave.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 25,535
    > @kle4 said:
    > > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > > JOHNNY MERCER HAS LEFT THE TORY PARTY IN ALL BUT NAME
    >
    > So much for future leader. The Tory-DUP majority now at, what, 1? I see he even clarifies he won't back any non-Brexit legislation (even if he supports it I guess) until his specific demands are met.

    Time to lose the whip then
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 31,044

    > @TheScreamingEagles said:

    > Fuck hell.

    >

    > Spurs do it.

    >

    > IMAGINE NOT LIKING FOOTBALL.



    I don't.



    Can we not do it on here please?



    This is a political betting site.

    "This is PB.com, darling. People get away with everything!"
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 8,913
    edited May 8
    > @Casino_Royale said:
    > > @Tissue_Price said:
    > > Not quite - but resigned the whip for the time being.
    >
    > Blast. That's that bet down the toilet.

    Dunno, it might make him more popular with the members. But I never thought</a> he had the support amongst MPs anyway: http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2019/04/15/the-next-generation-the-best-outside-bet-for-the-tory-crown/
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 8,962
    > @Tissue_Price said:
    > Barca, then Ajax? Cruyff will be turning in his grave.

    Sending the fullback the wrong way as he turns?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 76,403
    The football does have an impact on PB.

    I'll be in Spain for three days for the final whilst I'm supposed to be editing PB whilst Mike's on holiday in France.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 25,893
    > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    >
    > > JOHNNY MERCER HAS LEFT THE TORY PARTY
    >
    >
    >
    > To join another?
    >
    > He'll be voting only for Brexit, he'll be voting against the government on all other business until they stop prosecuting veterans.

    Always been a mystery to me why the DUP didn't insist on an amnesty for all British soldiers' actions in NI from May as part of the price of their support.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 45,631
    > @Casino_Royale said:
    > > @kle4 said:
    > > I gave May plenty of credit for a long time but she passed the point of usefulness some time ago and her resilience has gone from a virtue into a vice.
    > >
    > > That said, one can praise positive qualities even in a villain (and May is more tragic than villainous despite authoring many a misfortune), and it is impressive she is still there, howeve weakened. Given we know many in Cabinet want to replace her and do not like things she has proposed, the fact they are still there and have not majorly split in recent months suggests that they really do believe, as she does, that alternative options are even worse. That says something about May, however much she cannot get us out of this hole.
    > > ----------------------
    > > > @Casino_Royale said:
    > > > > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > > > > Fuck hell.
    > > > >
    > > > > Spurs do it.
    > > > >
    > > > > IMAGINE NOT LIKING FOOTBALL.
    > > >
    > > > I don't.
    > > >
    > > > Can we not do it on here please?
    > > >
    > > > This is a political betting site.
    > > --------------------
    > > Tough, diversions are the name of the game here. First football, then not Cricket, F1, classical history, gardening or, god forbid, puns. Lighten up.
    >
    > The rhetorical question was put: I answered it.
    >
    And I answered you. And no, you didn't just answer a rhetorical question about football, you then added a request, however lightly, that it not be discussed here. That's not an answer to the question of whether people like football.

    Get bored by football all you like, no need to get on a high horse about it. People were going on about snooker the other day for heaven's sake, each to their own.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 5,891
    > @kle4 said:
    > > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > > JOHNNY MERCER HAS LEFT THE TORY PARTY IN ALL BUT NAME
    >
    > So much for future leader. The Tory-DUP majority now at, what, 1? I see he even clarifies he won't back any non-Brexit legislation (even if he supports it I guess) until his specific demands are met.

    Official majority now 3 I believe. It is difficult to keep up. Went to 5 when Onasanya was kicked out.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 20,949
    After behaving like a tit over the Scrunton sacking, Mercer seems to have found his balls again.

    What was the issue with the chief whip ?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 35,129
    Wow....just wow....
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 5,891
    > @Nemtynakht said:
    > There’s something of the great cricketing defensive batting displays about May. She has one or two shots and is grinding out an innings

    Unfortunately they need 250 to win on the final day, and she's reached lunch unbeaten on 12.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 9,996
    > @Big_G_NorthWales said:
    > > @kle4 said:
    > > > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > > > JOHNNY MERCER HAS LEFT THE TORY PARTY IN ALL BUT NAME
    > >
    > > So much for future leader. The Tory-DUP majority now at, what, 1? I see he even clarifies he won't back any non-Brexit legislation (even if he supports it I guess) until his specific demands are met.
    >
    > Time to lose the whip then

    Err, yes that seems to be his objection, the Tory whips.

    His performance on HIGNFY showed he is not interested in career progression.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 26,078
    I expect when it happens it will happen suddenly. The moment will come when the Conservative MPs are satisfied that she will be replaced by someone who will do better.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 45,631
    > @Nemtynakht said:
    > There’s something of the great cricketing defensive batting displays about May. She has one or two shots and is grinding out an innings

    Seems like one of those really slow centuries in a one day game which is impressive but ruins any chance of the team catching a big total. Of course, those who never came on insist they would have gotten the runs easily, but will never need to prove it is not all talk.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,217
    Mercer's position is somewhat capricious.

    I appreciate that historical prosecutions are a difficult issue for all involved. There is a need for justice to be seen to be done - again for all involved. The passage of time makes that very hard to achieve - but it is right to try.

    He seems to want legislation to prevent prosecutions of any service personnel. And that is just not acceptable.

    If crimes were committed then it is right for that to be tested in the courts - no matter who committed them.

    There are no easy answers to complicated cases - but if the evidence exist, the charges must be laid and juries asked to reach a verdict.

    Blanket immunity does no-one any good.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 15,470
    > @Nemtynakht said:
    > There’s something of the great cricketing defensive batting displays about May. She has one or two shots and is grinding out an innings

    Moycs..
  • thecommissionerthecommissioner Posts: 165
    edited May 8
    > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    >

    Two teams who last won the league when Thatcher was PM and Churchill was alive.

    #europeancarabaocup
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 24,414

    Sean_F said:

    > @TheScreamingEagles said:

    > JOHNNY MERCER HAS LEFT THE TORY PARTY



    To join another?

    He'll be voting only for Brexit, he'll be voting against the government on all other business until they stop prosecuting veterans.
    Not voting for rather than voting against?
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 11,948
    Football > Politics X 1,000
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 35,129
    After the past two nights of footy, I think I might have to go and take some left over boxed wine over to the neighbours to apologize for the noise....
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 53,591
    Mercer has not left the Tories.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 29,500
    > @Sunil_Prasannan said:
    > > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    >
    > > Fuck hell.
    >
    > >
    >
    > > Spurs do it.
    >
    > >
    >
    > > IMAGINE NOT LIKING FOOTBALL.
    >
    >
    >
    > I don't.
    >
    >
    >
    > Can we not do it on here please?
    >
    >
    >
    > This is a political betting site.
    >
    > "This is PB.com, darling. People get away with everything!"

    I think I'll be off for the night.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 19,222
    I haven't looked at the issue he has "resigned" over.

    If as he says it is raking over existing or extant evidence to bring back soldiers to court then he has a point. He is also right in saying there's barely a soldier who doesn't want those who break the law to face the consequences.

    A bit of digging is in order.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 20,949

    Mercer's position is somewhat capricious.



    I appreciate that historical prosecutions are a difficult issue for all involved. There is a need for justice to be seen to be done - again for all involved. The passage of time makes that very hard to achieve - but it is right to try.



    He seems to want legislation to prevent prosecutions of any service personnel. And that is just not acceptable.



    If crimes were committed then it is right for that to be tested in the courts - no matter who committed them.



    There are no easy answers to complicated cases - but if the evidence exist, the charges must be laid and juries asked to reach a verdict.



    Blanket immunity does no-one any good.

    Problem is the immunity is asymmetric.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 7,905
    > @Penddu said:
    > Maybot..., sticking like sh1t to a blanket...

    And about as welcome
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 718
    From Mercer's letter: "Regrettably it appears the Government simply refuse to take any of these options or make a decision at all".

    I mean that's the case for everything about this Government at the moment, isn't it?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 5,891
    > @oxfordsimon said:
    > Mercer's position is somewhat capricious.
    >
    > I appreciate that historical prosecutions are a difficult issue for all involved. There is a need for justice to be seen to be done - again for all involved. The passage of time makes that very hard to achieve - but it is right to try.
    >
    > He seems to want legislation to prevent prosecutions of any service personnel. And that is just not acceptable.
    >
    > If crimes were committed then it is right for that to be tested in the courts - no matter who committed them.
    >
    > There are no easy answers to complicated cases - but if the evidence exist, the charges must be laid and juries asked to reach a verdict.
    >
    > Blanket immunity does no-one any good.

    Indeed. What is he saying? That no crime, however egregious, should be prosecuted? How does this help discipline in the Armed Forces? Are they a law unto themselves?
    There are words for that kind of society.
    I realise I exaggerate for effect, but a line must be drawn somewhere.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 1,359
    CL final - what price a stultifying 0-0 decided on a bad miss in the penalty shoot out.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 76,403
    Spurs wiped the floor with Ajax.

    Spurs took Ajax to the cleaners.

    I'm here all night.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 35,129
    > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > Spurs wiped the floor with Ajax.
    >
    > Spurs took Ajax to the cleaners.
    >
    > I'm here all night.

    Old ones are always the best ones.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 9,996
    > @Pro_Rata said:
    > CL final - what price a stultifying 0-0 decided on a bad miss in the penalty shoot out.

    Who will win? The Argentinian or the German?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 24,414
    TOPPING said:

    I haven't looked at the issue he has "resigned" over.

    If as he says it is raking over existing or extant evidence to bring back soldiers to court then he has a point. He is also right in saying there's barely a soldier who doesn't want those who break the law to face the consequences.

    A bit of digging is in order.

    I think it’s basically historical prosecutions on marginal evidence that sometimes takes 3-4 years to investigate while elderly men are under caution
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,217
    > @dixiedean said:
    > > @oxfordsimon said:
    > > Mercer's position is somewhat capricious.
    > >
    > > I appreciate that historical prosecutions are a difficult issue for all involved. There is a need for justice to be seen to be done - again for all involved. The passage of time makes that very hard to achieve - but it is right to try.
    > >
    > > He seems to want legislation to prevent prosecutions of any service personnel. And that is just not acceptable.
    > >
    > > If crimes were committed then it is right for that to be tested in the courts - no matter who committed them.
    > >
    > > There are no easy answers to complicated cases - but if the evidence exist, the charges must be laid and juries asked to reach a verdict.
    > >
    > > Blanket immunity does no-one any good.
    >
    > Indeed. What is he saying? That no crime, however egregious, should be prosecuted? How does this help discipline in the Armed Forces? Are they a law unto themselves?
    > There are words for that kind of society.
    > I realise I exaggerate for effect, but a line must be drawn somewhere.

    No-one wants to see retired soldiers dragged through the courts without good reason. Just as we wouldn't want to see a member of any other community.

    But you cannot give an amnesty. There may be cases to be answered - and answered they must be.

    It requires hard work on the part of the investigators and the prosecuting authorities. And no interference from any member of Government.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 48,431

    Spurs wiped the floor with Ajax.



    Spurs took Ajax to the cleaners.



    I'm here all night.

  • CharlesCharles Posts: 24,414
    Scott_P said:

    Spurs wiped the floor with Ajax.



    Spurs took Ajax to the cleaners.



    I'm here all night.

    Except the triple action was from Spurs

    Boom ‘tish
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 76,403
    It is clear that George Osborne CH is on manoeuvres.

    The question for which leadership contender is he an outrider for?

    My money is on Gove.
  • ByronicByronic Posts: 1,119
    bloody hell
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 718
    edited May 8
    > @Pro_Rata said:
    > CL final - what price a stultifying 0-0 decided on a bad miss in the penalty shoot out.

    Probably.

    But as we've seen, games over two legs can be thrilling, so maybe we should have finals over two legs...?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 20,949

    It is clear that George Osborne CH is on manoeuvres.



    The question for which leadership contender is he an outrider for?



    My money is on Gove.

    An alliance of competence ? Will never succeed.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 19,222
    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    I haven't looked at the issue he has "resigned" over.

    If as he says it is raking over existing or extant evidence to bring back soldiers to court then he has a point. He is also right in saying there's barely a soldier who doesn't want those who break the law to face the consequences.

    A bit of digging is in order.

    I think it’s basically historical prosecutions on marginal evidence that sometimes takes 3-4 years to investigate while elderly men are under caution
    Ah thx I'll take a look.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 9,996
    > @Charles said:
    > I haven't looked at the issue he has "resigned" over.
    >
    > If as he says it is raking over existing or extant evidence to bring back soldiers to court then he has a point. He is also right in saying there's barely a soldier who doesn't want those who break the law to face the consequences.
    >
    > A bit of digging is in order.
    >
    > I think it’s basically historical prosecutions on marginal evidence that sometimes takes 3-4 years to investigate while elderly men are under caution

    You could say much the same about some other historical prosecutions. How can evidence and witnesses from decades ago be accurate? Perhaps we need a statute of limitations on such things.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 35,129
    edited May 8
    > @TheScreamingEagles said:
    > twitter.com/PeterHoskinsTV/status/1126238006501892098

    Won't he just ignore it? According to a video I watched today, apparently they really can't do much, other than ask the Barr to prosecute him, which he won't do.

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 25,893
    > @FrancisUrquhart said:
    >

    Synchronised Diving.....

    Not a Spurs player near any of them.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 35,129
    > @MarqueeMark said:
    > > @FrancisUrquhart said:
    > >
    >
    > Synchronised Diving.....
    >
    > Not a Spurs player near any of them.

    When I first saw that photo, I wondered if it was a recent photo from a charity match Roy Keane played in.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 9,996
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 16,750
    Bloody hell.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 11,948
    The football gods are giving us a hint, stay in Europe.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 14,828
    I’d like to know exactly what his complaint is.

    His letter is a bit too vague.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 25,893
    > @Jonathan said:
    > The football gods are giving us a hint.....

    ...you are better than Europe.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 14,828
    Foxy said:

    > @Charles said:

    > I haven't looked at the issue he has "resigned" over.

    >

    > If as he says it is raking over existing or extant evidence to bring back soldiers to court then he has a point. He is also right in saying there's barely a soldier who doesn't want those who break the law to face the consequences.

    >

    > A bit of digging is in order.

    >

    > I think it’s basically historical prosecutions on marginal evidence that sometimes takes 3-4 years to investigate while elderly men are under caution



    You could say much the same about some other historical prosecutions. How can evidence and witnesses from decades ago be accurate? Perhaps we need a statute of limitations on such things.

    A statute of limitations for murder? I don’t think so.
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