If Brexit happens we will still have to endure 18 months of Remoaner moaning, that is what happens after major event, cf selling council houses, selling BT. After 18 months it becomes obvious that the change has not been bad and the figures start coming in to prove the moaners wrong.
Then, if it is a success we will see all the Remoaners denying they were ever against it and emphasising how thier strnger Brexit would have been better. Brass necks are nothing new.
I remember that a bit in the first half but it seemed to settle down. No idea if that was bt or youtube fault. It wasnt bad enough that i could be arsed to go and watch it on my main tv.
No, it makes me someone who respects democracy and the Leave vote.
Not a diehard Remainer who refuses to respect democracy and is determined to Stop Brexit
Except you condemn politicians who voted remain even if they have tried their damndest to see us leave and voted for us to leave multiple times . You apply a different standard to them than yourself and fool no one.
That appointment makes very good sense. Clearly in Corbyn's Labour Party the role of the Head of Membership is to ensure that no dissident refuseniks like Tom Watson remain as members of the party.
It's remarkable that just 5 weeks ago on 31 May, I was able to back the LibDems at 33/1 to win the most seats at the next GE. Their odds have since shortened dramatically with those nice folk at William Hill now offering only 9/1.
It's remarkable that just 5 weeks ago on 31 May, I was able to back the LibDems at 33/1 to win the most seats at the next GE. Their odds have since shortened dramatically with those nice folk at William Hill now offering only 9/1.
If England knock out India at Edgbaston there could be a lot of tickets available for the final, provided the Indian fans who don't want to go return their tickets. A lot of Indian fans have bought tickets for both semi-finals to ensure they don't miss their team playing.
Good article spoiled by the horrifying use of two spaces after each full stop.
That’s what I was taught, years ago. When there were typewriters, not computers. Sorry!
It is not a fault - text always lies better if you do that, even on computers. It's definitely easier to read when printed out.
Thank you. That’s partly why I do it. Plus force of habit.
Quite often I write my articles out by hand with a pen and ink, on paper. Imagine that!
I was taught italic handwriting and, to this day, still prefer ink to biros. And, as a result, my handwriting is gorgeous. When you're taught to write well it is easy to write both quickly and legibly.
Hell of a lot of wishful thinking. Might be right, we don't know. But, there will be great disappointment in the FT if it isn't.
Maybe wishful thinking on your part that it will be alright on the night? The FT exists to give information on which people base important financial decisions. Why would it be in their interest to take a partisan line? I can see why it is in your interest.
It's remarkable that just 5 weeks ago on 31 May, I was able to back the LibDems at 33/1 to win the most seats at the next GE. Their odds have since shortened dramatically with those nice folk at William Hill now offering only 9/1.
Hell of a lot of wishful thinking. Might be right, we don't know. But, there will be great disappointment in the FT if it isn't.
Maybe wishful thinking on your part that it will be alright on the night? The FT exists to give information on which people base important financial decisions. Why would it be in their interest to take a partisan line? I can see why it is in your interest.
It's remarkable that just 5 weeks ago on 31 May, I was able to back the LibDems at 33/1 to win the most seats at the next GE. Their odds have since shortened dramatically with those nice folk at William Hill now offering only 9/1.
Tipped up at 250-1 by Tissue Price
Wow .... really? When was that?
Paddy hasn't got a decent timestamp on the bet !
After I backed Khan for £11.75 @ 4-11 London mayor and before I backed Kasich £1.25 @ 45-1 for GOP nominee with them.
Good article spoiled by the horrifying use of two spaces after each full stop.
That’s what I was taught, years ago. When there were typewriters, not computers. Sorry!
It is not a fault - text always lies better if you do that, even on computers. It's definitely easier to read when printed out.
Thank you. That’s partly why I do it. Plus force of habit.
Quite often I write my articles out by hand with a pen and ink, on paper. Imagine that!
I was taught italic handwriting and, to this day, still prefer ink to biros. And, as a result, my handwriting is gorgeous. When you're taught to write well it is easy to write both quickly and legibly.
If you are going to scribble, scribble big -- Harold Evans when editor of the Sunday Times, advising those of us with less neat handwriting.
If England knock out India at Edgbaston there could be a lot of tickets available for the final, provided the Indian fans who don't want to go return their tickets. A lot of Indian fans have bought tickets for both semi-finals to ensure they don't miss their team playing.
There's still a small chance we might be playing Oz.
Thank you. That’s partly why I do it. Plus force of habit.
Quite often I write my articles out by hand with a pen and ink, on paper. Imagine that!
I was taught italic handwriting and, to this day, still prefer ink to biros. And, as a result, my handwriting is gorgeous. When you're taught to write well it is easy to write both quickly and legibly.
A...pen. That's, kind of, like a quill, only no bird was harmed?
I persuaded my secondary school to let me type all my homework - they were resistant at first, but I pointed out that they wouldn't be able to read them if I didn't, and the Head said "Hmm, good point".
Today my wife and I made our decision on our votes and have returned them in the post this lunchtime.
Hunt's ill advised comments on hunting have had a big consquence in our family, all of whom are implacably opposed to overturning the fox hunting ban, but do endorse drag hunting. It also raised the question in our mind about his competence when he fell in the trap when asked and confirming he would vote to repeal the act. It was an entirely avoidable position in so far as he could have simply said there are far more important issues and he would not re-open the matter
We have not voted for him but had he not made those comments his 2 votes would be in the post now
Turning to Boris and the alternatives, neither my wife or I could vote for Boris as we believe he is unreliable and overrated, though we do agree police numbers need increasing and we approve of his more liberal attitude to immigration
We therefore marked our ballots 'Neither' and sent them in
It is hugely disappointing to us that we could not vote for either candidate but we had no choice in the end
Time will tell if Boris makes it but we did not want to have anything to do with voting him in.
Thank you. That’s partly why I do it. Plus force of habit.
Quite often I write my articles out by hand with a pen and ink, on paper. Imagine that!
I was taught italic handwriting and, to this day, still prefer ink to biros. And, as a result, my handwriting is gorgeous. When you're taught to write well it is easy to write both quickly and legibly.
A...pen. That's, kind of, like a quill, only no bird was harmed?
I persuaded my secondary school to let me type all my homework - they were resistant at first, but I pointed out that they wouldn't be able to read them if I didn't, and the Head said "Hmm, good point".
Dearie me.....
If computers get switched off in post-Brexit Britain, what with us having no electricity an’ all, you’ll all be flocking to me to write out your billets doux, wills etc. My rates will be reasonable.
Good article spoiled by the horrifying use of two spaces after each full stop.
That’s what I was taught, years ago. When there were typewriters, not computers. Sorry!
It is not a fault - text always lies better if you do that, even on computers. It's definitely easier to read when printed out.
Thank you. That’s partly why I do it. Plus force of habit.
Quite often I write my articles out by hand with a pen and ink, on paper. Imagine that!
I was taught italic handwriting and, to this day, still prefer ink to biros. And, as a result, my handwriting is gorgeous. When you're taught to write well it is easy to write both quickly and legibly.
I'm so jealous ... I would so love to have had a really good hand, but after a lifetime's endeavour it's only passable at best. Probably on account of the fact that I was handicapped from the outset as a result of being left-handed, therefore pushing the pen rather than pulling it. although most of us overcome this problem by writing at an approx 45 degree slant to the vertical. Still I'm reliably informed that we lefties have six times the aptitude of right-handed folk for reading upside down. Very handy when being interviewed for a job or similarly across the desk when attending one's annual employment review.
Nice article @Cyclefree but I'm afraid the call to be reasonable comes far too late; decades too late.
The politicians have been ignoring the concerns about the EU held by a lot of people for too long. Sorry about that; genuinely sorry about that. I've been genuinely sorry about it for decades. It's not good for any of us.
Good morning, everyone.
What concerns are they, exactly?
And no, I don't mean the Boris-in-Brussels lies peddled by the oligarchical press. I mean genuine issues.
Today my wife and I made our decision on our votes and have returned them in the post this lunchtime.
Hunt's ill advised comments on hunting have had a big consquence in our family, all of whom are implacably opposed to overturning the fox hunting ban, but do endorse drag hunting. It also raised the question in our mind about his competence when he fell in the trap when asked and confirming he would vote to repeal the act. It was an entirely avoidable position in so far as he could have simply said there are far more important issues and he would not re-open the matter
We have not voted for him but had he not made those comments his 2 votes would be in the post now
Turning to Boris and the alternatives, neither my wife or I could vote for Boris as we believe he is unreliable and overrated, though we do agree police numbers need increasing and we approve of his more liberal attitude to immigration
We therefore marked our ballots 'Neither' and sent them in
It is hugely disappointing to us that we could not vote for either candidate but we had no choice in the end
Time will tell if Boris makes it but we did not want to have anything to do with voting him in.
Good for you. I won't be voting Labour or Conservative at the next election because I don't want a Johnson or Corbyn government on my conscience. I will probably sit it out as I did in 2017 but could well vote LD if they are still looking quite strong.
Nice article @Cyclefree but I'm afraid the call to be reasonable comes far too late; decades too late.
The politicians have been ignoring the concerns about the EU held by a lot of people for too long. Sorry about that; genuinely sorry about that. I've been genuinely sorry about it for decades. It's not good for any of us.
Good morning, everyone.
What concerns are they, exactly?
And no, I don't mean the Boris-in-Brussels lies peddled by the oligarchical press. I mean genuine issues.
Off topic: CLP AGM tonight. Your's truly is standing for an executive position...
On a Friday?!
Good luck! I became CLP Chair last month (such power, and one so young). Gradually PB is taking over the Labour Party - like Momentum, but more secretive.
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Then, if it is a success we will see all the Remoaners denying they were ever against it and emphasising how thier strnger Brexit would have been better. Brass necks are nothing new.
You know what I'm like when I've tipped a 1/500 winner, just imagine what I'm going to be like if my 100/1 tip becomes a winner.
Quite often I write my articles out by hand with a pen and ink, on paper. Imagine that!
I was taught italic handwriting and, to this day, still prefer ink to biros. And, as a result, my handwriting is gorgeous. When you're taught to write well it is easy to write both quickly and legibly.
Mr. Pulpstar, a remarkable tip. Never even saw it, alas.
After I backed Khan for £11.75 @ 4-11 London mayor and before I backed Kasich £1.25 @ 45-1 for GOP nominee with them.
Humbug.
I persuaded my secondary school to let me type all my homework - they were resistant at first, but I pointed out that they wouldn't be able to read them if I didn't, and the Head said "Hmm, good point".
NEW THREAD
Hunt's ill advised comments on hunting have had a big consquence in our family, all of whom are implacably opposed to overturning the fox hunting ban, but do endorse drag hunting. It also raised the question in our mind about his competence when he fell in the trap when asked and confirming he would vote to repeal the act. It was an entirely avoidable position in so far as he could have simply said there are far more important issues and he would not re-open the matter
We have not voted for him but had he not made those comments his 2 votes would be in the post now
Turning to Boris and the alternatives, neither my wife or I could vote for Boris as we believe he is unreliable and overrated, though we do agree police numbers need increasing and we approve of his more liberal attitude to immigration
We therefore marked our ballots 'Neither' and sent them in
It is hugely disappointing to us that we could not vote for either candidate but we had no choice in the end
Time will tell if Boris makes it but we did not want to have anything to do with voting him in.
If computers get switched off in post-Brexit Britain, what with us having no electricity an’ all, you’ll all be flocking to me to write out your billets doux, wills etc. My rates will be reasonable.
Still I'm reliably informed that we lefties have six times the aptitude of right-handed folk for reading upside down. Very handy when being interviewed for a job or similarly across the desk when attending one's annual employment review.
And no, I don't mean the Boris-in-Brussels lies peddled by the oligarchical press. I mean genuine issues.
The reason I like David Lammy, for example, is not because he annoys Rod Liddle.
(Although I will admit this is not a negative.)