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The last few weeks seem to have been filled with as many attempts to defy convention and accepted norms of rules and behaviour within Westminster as possible. There’s a certain irony, therefore, that in the election to replace John Bercow as Speaker, a convention many MPs may feel bound to respect a convention – that the Speakership should alternate between the main parties – which is of recent innovation and which came about primarily by happenstance, albeit a happenstance overlaid by a perceived fairness.
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Why on earth would MPs look past Hoyle other than he may be TOO fair and unwilling to break/bend the conventions as little Berk-ow has done. I like Eleanor Laing and knew her when she was involved in Scottish politics. Hoyle would still get my vote if I had one.
I have no particular feeling for who gets the post, but I expect it to be someone willing to stand up for the Commons interest against the Executive.
Lindsay Hoyle strikes me as a little bit weak and bumbling for these troubled times. We need a strong centrist speaker who is able to control an increasingly rowdy and angry HoC. I'm far from convinced that Hoyle is the right person for the job at the moment.
It certainly wouldn't be tokenism to appoint a female. It would send an important signal about gender balance, and David's remarks about this, whilst well intentioned, do come across as rather male oriented and failing to grasp the significance of the issue.
A female speaker would be a good move. But it needs to be someone really strong. Harriet Harman is an obvious choice.
For the record, I haven't bet on this market so I'm stating this from a relatively objective perspective.
If you go to the country in a people v parliament election, you may indeed get elected and be part of a triumphant Tory majority. But when you have been elected, and when you’ve “got Brexit done” – which is to say, when you’ve either taken the UK off the no-deal cliff, or opened up the next however many painful years of trade negotiations fuckery-pokery, which is never going to solve the problems it is magically supposed to – you, then, are “parliament”.
The even angrier people are then versus YOU. That’s when they come for you, because you asked them to. You invited them in. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard this line “the revolution devours its children”? That’s you, babe.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/27/tories-dominic-cummings-people-v-parliament-election
If there is a feeling that the House should begin the process of healing the ruptures, then that should assist Hoyle.
As an aside, if Bercowe steps down on 31st Oct, but there's a new election in Nov/Dec, would the current parliament choose the speaker? Or would it make more sense to wait until the new parliament assembles?
I hope Hoyle gets it.
Rainy and dark this morning. On a happier note, pleasantly surprised my article went up so quickly. Thanks to those generous enough to leave kind comments.
FPT: Mr. Meeks, increasing defence budgets and altering the way a multi-lateral approach to defence works are different things.
FPT: Mr. Woolie, lots of people would cite Manzikert, and it was needless folly, however, that happened in 1054. After this, the Comneni (particularly Alexius and John) helped to stabilise and strengthen the Eastern Roman Empire in the late 11th and 12th centuries. In short, recovery and success was happening.
The disastrous Angeli dynasty weakened the Empire substantially and helped enable the Fourth Crusade to succeed. It was after that that, in my view, decline and defeat (without Western help, which was not forthcoming) was inevitable.
FPT: Dr. Foxy, you're right that in the classical era the East was richer than the West, although it's worth noting the mega-rich were clustered in Rome, for obvious reasons.
FPT: Mr. Soup, there was a plan for Russia to get Constantinople (Istanbul) after the First World War was won. Unfortunately for them, they were, er, otherwise occupied. It was unfortunate too for Montenegro, which was shafted by its allies and swallowed by Serbia.
Yes you Dr @Foxy .... calm down man. Your aspirations to be a statesman of some eminence are in danger. Take some soothing medication to restrain yourself.
I must advise the House that I find Mr Herdson's intervention entirely in order and recommend to Honourable and Right Honourable members that on this matter they follow the recommendations of the Right Honourable member for Wakefield North and Yorkshire Rural South.
We now move on to a petition from the member for Bedford Riverside on the thorny subject of the taxation of wig powders. I call Sir Michael Smithson.
The speaker needs to be competent and balanced this time - Hoyle seems to tick both boxes.
For the worst possible choice..
I doubt very much that the Cult will vote for a Tory.
Idiot.
Sensible, moderate, affable, Lancastrian.
Just like me. :-)
Nothing, and no-one, must stand in the way of Corbyn and Number 10.
But here she sounds angry. The wit's still there but fleetingly. The organ grinder in particuar is getting under her skin. Maybe it's just too big a target? A lot of us are feeling pretty revolted and angry but that's when you want the cool political satirist to give a perspective. I look forward to normal service being resumed by next Friday
Idiot.
From what I hear, October is going to be a busy time for Extinction Rebellion here too.
My point is that a schism in security isn't going to benefit Europe, and is a product of the EU's desire to centralise power to bolster the institution, rather than the continent.
https://twitter.com/AmateyDoku/status/1177644557791617025?s=19
Where does your public school fit in to this divide, Roger?
(although it will never achieve quite the propulsion of the Sex Drive....)
Yours, Tabman Major (Scumbag Comp)
(I was going to say people have been hung for saying that)
Likely? Yes.
Look up “fixed travel time budget”.
If the car owners in the crowd spent hours on their feet not driving anywhere there would have been a massive reduction in VMT, regardless how they travelled to and from the protest.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
Do you even drive? Does DVLC keep the terminally stupid off the roads?
Which is stupid.
With the febrile atmosphere lately one wasn't sure.
https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1177849346341007361
Grow up man.
Why?
https://twitter.com/eliasdinas/status/1177852378483236864?s=21
the one thing to say about using 'Harperson' it does describe her perfectly as a nickname. she is deeply into the politics of gender, to the point that it is detrimental to her message sometimes.
The word 'history' is not, as some wrongly believe, a portmanteau of 'his' and 'story'.
It's derived from the Latin noun 'historia'. Which is feminine.
The last thing parliament needs is another highly partisan speaker using the role to grandstand and for that reason Harman would be a disastrous appointment.
I have seen on Betway that Boris Johnson is currently 100/1. Would this be instead of his current role or is it anticipated he would multi task? Mind you it could be worse, Owen Paterson is a mere 18/1 on Betway!
Play nicely PBers.
You cantankerous contrarian Von Klinkerhoffen!
Mr. Spudgfsh, it's an understandable mistake to make. But should be corrected so that the error doesn't persist.
The concern is about inflammatory language that might provoke some hothead into taking violent action.
"Bastard" is intemperate. "Traitor" is inflammatory.
A former American president later became a Supreme Court judge.
There is no reason why Harriet Harman could not speak for the House rather than the Labour party.