The Saj's remarks about trade barriers with the EU has rather brought Brexit gloom and uncertainty back to the fore. This is contrary to Boris's sunshine narrative. Boris needs to get back on the front foot and do something that reminds us of his cheeky grin and cheers us all up. How about getting everyone to partake in one giant street conga the moment the Brexit bell tolls? It would cost next to nothing and would rub the Remainers noses in it. The catchphrase can be 'Do do do. Come on a do the Brexit.' Boris could even lead it along Downing Street!
Guffaw!
48% of us are not laughing. However just to add insult to injury over the whole shambles, Francois, Banks and Johnson are poking us in the eye with the Queen Elizabeth Clock Tower so we can all rejoice in post-Brexit harmony.
This Primary season is very short. The vast majority of contests are squeezed in the first 6 weeks between Feb. 3rd and March 17th.
Realistically there are only 4 candidates with hopes of winning either Iowa or N.Hampshire, so it all depends if two of those four drop out by S.Carolina.
A contested convention almost happened in both 2008 and 2016. They had 2 formidable candidates splitting the vote, but now they are a handfull of weak candidates.
Either an unwise gambit from her then, or an unfortunate reaction to her true beliefs.
Honestly, not supporting another referendum is a no-brainer for Labour. If they support it, they lose their remaining Unionist vote to whoever else, and the Indy vote just isn't coming back because if Independence is a priority you have to vote SNP! I guess 66% of the Labour membership are morons.
That it correct. Because Labour was perceived as not able to win a majority to deliver on it's promises, so a vote for Labour was simply a vote for another few years of more damaging chaos.
Either an unwise gambit from her then, or an unfortunate reaction to her true beliefs.
The latter I suspect. Someone who comes up with something moronic like we must be salespeople for Socialism' will win this contest. Surely no one would say anything so trite. They have?...
The Saj's remarks about trade barriers with the EU has rather brought Brexit gloom and uncertainty back to the fore. This is contrary to Boris's sunshine narrative. Boris needs to get back on the front foot and do something that reminds us of his cheeky grin and cheers us all up. How about getting everyone to partake in one giant street conga the moment the Brexit bell tolls? It would cost next to nothing and would rub the Remainers noses in it. The catchphrase can be 'Do do do. Come on a do the Brexit.' Boris could even lead it along Downing Street!
Guffaw!
48% of us are not laughing. However just to add insult to injury over the whole shambles, Francois, Banks and Johnson are poking us in the eye with the Queen Elizabeth Clock Tower so we can all rejoice in post-Brexit harmony.
The decision to join the EEC was also narrow and fiercely contested. But accession was marked by a week long 'fanfare for Europe' (a typically ghastly vulgar title) including a football match and a gala attending by the Queen and Edward Heath.
Your view that we should all go around in sackcloth and ashes to take into account remainer sensitivities is unrealistic and deeply hypocritical.
That it correct. Because Labour was perceived as not able to win a majority to deliver on it's promises, so a vote for Labour was simply a vote for another few years of more damaging chaos.
...so what exactly have we voted for? A hint, just read what Saj has said in the FT today.
Either an unwise gambit from her then, or an unfortunate reaction to her true beliefs.
Honestly, not supporting another referendum is a no-brainer for Labour. If they support it, they lose their remaining Unionist vote to whoever else, and the Indy vote just isn't coming back because if Independence is a priority you have to vote SNP! I guess 66% of the Labour membership are morons.
On the basis of the Scottish CLPs (only 2 so far I accept) 'I luv the Union' isn't resonating much with the Scottish membership either. If JP doesn't do anything in the LOL Lanarkshires for example, one might have to re-examine how Unionist rump SLab actually is.
The Saj's remarks about trade barriers with the EU has rather brought Brexit gloom and uncertainty back to the fore. This is contrary to Boris's sunshine narrative. Boris needs to get back on the front foot and do something that reminds us of his cheeky grin and cheers us all up. How about getting everyone to partake in one giant street conga the moment the Brexit bell tolls? It would cost next to nothing and would rub the Remainers noses in it. The catchphrase can be 'Do do do. Come on a do the Brexit.' Boris could even lead it along Downing Street!
Guffaw!
48% of us are not laughing. However just to add insult to injury over the whole shambles, Francois, Banks and Johnson are poking us in the eye with the Queen Elizabeth Clock Tower so we can all rejoice in post-Brexit harmony.
The decision to join the EEC was also narrow and fiercely contested. But accession was marked by a week long 'fanfare for Europe' (a typically ghastly vulgar title) including a football match and a gala attending by the Queen and Edward Heath.
Your view that we should all go around in sackcloth and ashes to take into account remainer sensitivities is unrealistic and deeply hypocritical.
Ted put us in without any plebiscite other than his magnificent and unexpected victory in the 1970 GE. There was no divisive vote. So Ted liked to grandstand.
When Harold called the referendum and it was won by remain there was no fanfare just relief.
Either an unwise gambit from her then, or an unfortunate reaction to her true beliefs.
Honestly, not supporting another referendum is a no-brainer for Labour. If they support it, they lose their remaining Unionist vote to whoever else, and the Indy vote just isn't coming back because if Independence is a priority you have to vote SNP! I guess 66% of the Labour membership are morons.
On the basis of the Scottish CLPs (only 2 so far I accept) 'I luv the Union' isn't resonating much with the Scottish membership either. If JP doesn't do anything in the LOL Lanarkshires for example, one might have to re-examine how Unionist rump SLab actually is.
If they move towards Independence, Scotland moves towards Tory. Watch.
Either an unwise gambit from her then, or an unfortunate reaction to her true beliefs.
Honestly, not supporting another referendum is a no-brainer for Labour. If they support it, they lose their remaining Unionist vote to whoever else, and the Indy vote just isn't coming back because if Independence is a priority you have to vote SNP! I guess 66% of the Labour membership are morons.
On the basis of the Scottish CLPs (only 2 so far I accept) 'I luv the Union' isn't resonating much with the Scottish membership either. If JP doesn't do anything in the LOL Lanarkshires for example, one might have to re-examine how Unionist rump SLab actually is.
If they move towards Independence, Scotland moves towards Tory. Watch.
Labour for Indy ref is another reason not to vote Labour.
Either an unwise gambit from her then, or an unfortunate reaction to her true beliefs.
Honestly, not supporting another referendum is a no-brainer for Labour. If they support it, they lose their remaining Unionist vote to whoever else, and the Indy vote just isn't coming back because if Independence is a priority you have to vote SNP! I guess 66% of the Labour membership are morons.
On the basis of the Scottish CLPs (only 2 so far I accept) 'I luv the Union' isn't resonating much with the Scottish membership either. If JP doesn't do anything in the LOL Lanarkshires for example, one might have to re-examine how Unionist rump SLab actually is.
If they move towards Independence, Scotland moves towards Tory. Watch.
There's a lot of work to do in Scotland. The main challenge to overcome being the fact that the SNP has turned the resources of the devolved executive into an effective campaigning tool for independence. It's definitely a less effective Government as a result, but the negatives of that are slower to manifest. Correspondingly, the UK Government has stepped away from being a part of people's lives up here. They now need to re-engage wherever possible, going direct to the people. Boris talks the talk, but we'll see if he has the determination.
Either an unwise gambit from her then, or an unfortunate reaction to her true beliefs.
Honestly, not supporting another referendum is a no-brainer for Labour. If they support it, they lose their remaining Unionist vote to whoever else, and the Indy vote just isn't coming back because if Independence is a priority you have to vote SNP! I guess 66% of the Labour membership are morons.
On the basis of the Scottish CLPs (only 2 so far I accept) 'I luv the Union' isn't resonating much with the Scottish membership either. If JP doesn't do anything in the LOL Lanarkshires for example, one might have to re-examine how Unionist rump SLab actually is.
If they move towards Independence, Scotland moves towards Tory. Watch.
There's a lot of work to do in Scotland. The main challenge to overcome being the fact that the SNP has turned the resources of the devolved executive into an effective campaigning tool for independence. It's definitely a less effective Government as a result, but the negatives of that are slower to manifest. Correspondingly, the UK Government has stepped away from being a part of people's lives up here. They now need to re-engage wherever possible, going direct to the people. Boris talks the talk, but we'll see if he has the determination.
I think there needs to be a shock to force the Unionists to choose the Tories, but Indyref2 will provide it. I don't think the SNP have ever got north of 45%, which gives 55 to play with, and that 45 should drop soon. Fishing rights, Brexit failing to cause the sun to fall into the sea and the earth to become poisoned, and Alex assaulting the civil service should cause drift from that 45 I reckon. We had a good run!
Either an unwise gambit from her then, or an unfortunate reaction to her true beliefs.
Honestly, not supporting another referendum is a no-brainer for Labour. If they support it, they lose their remaining Unionist vote to whoever else, and the Indy vote just isn't coming back because if Independence is a priority you have to vote SNP! I guess 66% of the Labour membership are morons.
On the basis of the Scottish CLPs (only 2 so far I accept) 'I luv the Union' isn't resonating much with the Scottish membership either. If JP doesn't do anything in the LOL Lanarkshires for example, one might have to re-examine how Unionist rump SLab actually is.
If they move towards Independence, Scotland moves towards Tory. Watch.
There's a lot of work to do in Scotland. The main challenge to overcome being the fact that the SNP has turned the resources of the devolved executive into an effective campaigning tool for independence. It's definitely a less effective Government as a result, but the negatives of that are slower to manifest. Correspondingly, the UK Government has stepped away from being a part of people's lives up here. They now need to re-engage wherever possible, going direct to the people. Boris talks the talk, but we'll see if he has the determination.
I think there needs to be a shock to force the Unionists to choose the Tories, but Indyref2 will provide it. I don't think the SNP have ever got north of 45%, which gives 55 to play with, and that 45 should drop soon. Fishing rights, Brexit failing to cause the sun to fall into the sea and the earth to become poisoned, and Alex assaulting the civil service should cause drift from that 45 I reckon. We had a good run!
Either an unwise gambit from her then, or an unfortunate reaction to her true beliefs.
Honestly, not supporting another referendum is a no-brainer for Labour. If they support it, they lose their remaining Unionist vote to whoever else, and the Indy vote just isn't coming back because if Independence is a priority you have to vote SNP! I guess 66% of the Labour membership are morons.
On the basis of the Scottish CLPs (only 2 so far I accept) 'I luv the Union' isn't resonating much with the Scottish membership either. If JP doesn't do anything in the LOL Lanarkshires for example, one might have to re-examine how Unionist rump SLab actually is.
If they move towards Independence, Scotland moves towards Tory. Watch.
There's a lot of work to do in Scotland. The main challenge to overcome being the fact that the SNP has turned the resources of the devolved executive into an effective campaigning tool for independence. It's definitely a less effective Government as a result, but the negatives of that are slower to manifest. Correspondingly, the UK Government has stepped away from being a part of people's lives up here. They now need to re-engage wherever possible, going direct to the people. Boris talks the talk, but we'll see if he has the determination.
I think there needs to be a shock to force the Unionists to choose the Tories, but Indyref2 will provide it. I don't think the SNP have ever got north of 45%, which gives 55 to play with, and that 45 should drop soon. Fishing rights, Brexit failing to cause the sun to fall into the sea and the earth to become poisoned, and Alex assaulting the civil service should cause drift from that 45 I reckon. We had a good run!
'We'?
I'm pro-Indy, and pro-Nicola, and a Remainer. I know how to back the losers, but I can identify the problems too.
Either an unwise gambit from her then, or an unfortunate reaction to her true beliefs.
Honestly, not supporting another referendum is a no-brainer for Labour. If they support it, they lose their remaining Unionist vote to whoever else, and the Indy vote just isn't coming back because if Independence is a priority you have to vote SNP! I guess 66% of the Labour membership are morons.
On the basis of the Scottish CLPs (only 2 so far I accept) 'I luv the Union' isn't resonating much with the Scottish membership either. If JP doesn't do anything in the LOL Lanarkshires for example, one might have to re-examine how Unionist rump SLab actually is.
If they move towards Independence, Scotland moves towards Tory. Watch.
There's a lot of work to do in Scotland. The main challenge to overcome being the fact that the SNP has turned the resources of the devolved executive into an effective campaigning tool for independence. It's definitely a less effective Government as a result, but the negatives of that are slower to manifest. Correspondingly, the UK Government has stepped away from being a part of people's lives up here. They now need to re-engage wherever possible, going direct to the people. Boris talks the talk, but we'll see if he has the determination.
I think there needs to be a shock to force the Unionists to choose the Tories, but Indyref2 will provide it. I don't think the SNP have ever got north of 45%, which gives 55 to play with, and that 45 should drop soon. Fishing rights, Brexit failing to cause the sun to fall into the sea and the earth to become poisoned, and Alex assaulting the civil service should cause drift from that 45 I reckon. We had a good run!
'We'?
I'm pro-Indy, and pro-Nicola, and a Remainer. I know how to back the losers, but I can identify the problems too.
Either an unwise gambit from her then, or an unfortunate reaction to her true beliefs.
Honestly, not supporting another referendum is a no-brainer for Labour. If they support it, they lose their remaining Unionist vote to whoever else, and the Indy vote just isn't coming back because if Independence is a priority you have to vote SNP! I guess 66% of the Labour membership are morons.
On the basis of the Scottish CLPs (only 2 so far I accept) 'I luv the Union' isn't resonating much with the Scottish membership either. If JP doesn't do anything in the LOL Lanarkshires for example, one might have to re-examine how Unionist rump SLab actually is.
If they move towards Independence, Scotland moves towards Tory. Watch.
There's a lot of work to do in Scotland. The main challenge to overcome being the fact that the SNP has turned the resources of the devolved executive into an effective campaigning tool for independence. It's definitely a less effective Government as a result, but the negatives of that are slower to manifest. Correspondingly, the UK Government has stepped away from being a part of people's lives up here. They now need to re-engage wherever possible, going direct to the people. Boris talks the talk, but we'll see if he has the determination.
I think there needs to be a shock to force the Unionists to choose the Tories, but Indyref2 will provide it. I don't think the SNP have ever got north of 45%, which gives 55 to play with, and that 45 should drop soon. Fishing rights, Brexit failing to cause the sun to fall into the sea and the earth to become poisoned, and Alex assaulting the civil service should cause drift from that 45 I reckon. We had a good run!
'We'?
I'm pro-Indy, and pro-Nicola, and a Remainer. I know how to back the losers, but I can identify the problems too.
'As a pro indy, pro Nicola, pro remain, pro SNP lefty, let me tell you why they're all fcucked.'
Either an unwise gambit from her then, or an unfortunate reaction to her true beliefs.
Honestly, not supporting another referendum is a no-brainer for Labour. If they support it, they lose their remaining Unionist vote to whoever else, and the Indy vote just isn't coming back because if Independence is a priority you have to vote SNP! I guess 66% of the Labour membership are morons.
On the basis of the Scottish CLPs (only 2 so far I accept) 'I luv the Union' isn't resonating much with the Scottish membership either. If JP doesn't do anything in the LOL Lanarkshires for example, one might have to re-examine how Unionist rump SLab actually is.
If they move towards Independence, Scotland moves towards Tory. Watch.
There's a lot of work to do in Scotland. The main challenge to overcome being the fact that the SNP has turned the resources of the devolved executive into an effective campaigning tool for independence. It's definitely a less effective Government as a result, but the negatives of that are slower to manifest. Correspondingly, the UK Government has stepped away from being a part of people's lives up here. They now need to re-engage wherever possible, going direct to the people. Boris talks the talk, but we'll see if he has the determination.
I think there needs to be a shock to force the Unionists to choose the Tories, but Indyref2 will provide it. I don't think the SNP have ever got north of 45%, which gives 55 to play with, and that 45 should drop soon. Fishing rights, Brexit failing to cause the sun to fall into the sea and the earth to become poisoned, and Alex assaulting the civil service should cause drift from that 45 I reckon. We had a good run!
'We'?
I'm pro-Indy, and pro-Nicola, and a Remainer. I know how to back the losers, but I can identify the problems too.
'As a pro indy, pro Nicola, pro remain, pro SNP lefty, let me tell you why they're all fcucked.'
Good one.
If you think that "What I Want To Happen," and "What Will Happen," are the same thing, I'm not following any of your calls on this website to do with betting on political events.
Leavers are entitled to their celebration. Why shouldn’t they enjoy a moment of happiness?
I think it’s a disaster but my dismay is not a reason to stop others revelling in their achievement.
I can't agree.
I have moved on from the reality of its passing, but it feels like a poke in the eye that I am expected to endure the televised street parties on BBC1.
Given that the bar is low and that politics is about the Law of Comparative Advantage, Laura Pidcock is a useful reminder that a number of Labour women, including RLB, JP, and Lisa Nandy actually act with a measure of grace and decency.
As a political issue, sure. But as the article suggests, their policies are likely to be ineffective: ... Given that Joe Biden is the front-runner and his stance on climate is definitively moderate, being the weakest among the front-runners, there is a lot of room for more radical solutions, even if they are poor solutions that pander for votes.
One can imagine a Republican-made solution which goes on a war footing to build out nuclear, for example. Or they could take planks from Andrew Yang’s playbook, and offer trillions in low-interest guaranteed loans for home solar, a very expensive and tiny wedge that would play well to their base and to suburban and rural Independents. They could steal Bernie Sander’s pledge to give trillions in rebates to electric car purchasers, without addressing anything else....
If you think that "What I Want To Happen," and "What Will Happen," are the same thing, I'm not following any of your calls on this website to do with betting on political events.
Your super sharp insights had hitherto passed me by, so we can probably be mutually satisfied on that point.
On a knowledge base that confidently asserts 'I don't think the SNP have ever got north of 45%', I'd change 'probably' to 'definitely'.
The politics of the students union (6th form version), It’s. possible that she will become an intellectual adult at some point. Time is running against her though.
Leavers are entitled to their celebration. Why shouldn’t they enjoy a moment of happiness?
I think it’s a disaster but my dismay is not a reason to stop others revelling in their achievement.
I can't agree.
I have moved on from the reality of its passing, but it feels like a poke in the eye that I am expected to endure the televised street parties on BBC1.
Turn the tv off that day. And be thankful that all the nation’s most appalling charlatans have volunteered to take themselves off to a small area filled with the rest of the nation’s choicest muppets that evening, to leave the rest of us in peace.
If you think that "What I Want To Happen," and "What Will Happen," are the same thing, I'm not following any of your calls on this website to do with betting on political events.
Your super sharp insights had hitherto passed me by, so we can probably be mutually satisfied on that point.
On a knowledge base that confidently asserts 'I don't think the SNP have ever got north of 45%', I'd change 'probably' to 'definitely'.
It's quite funny that you think that "they're already trending down!" means that they have a great future ahead of them. Can you explain why?
The feeling is almost certainly mutual. I’m not a Tory but I certainly wouldn’t want to be in the same room as such an unpleasant person.
She sums up all that’s wrong with the modern left, as do Sarker and Peters-Bastani. But most of all, that attitude explains why they were so surprised at being rejected, and goes a long way towards explaining why they were rejected.
Given that the bar is low and that politics is about the Law of Comparative Advantage, Laura Pidcock is a useful reminder that a number of Labour women, including RLB, JP, and Lisa Nandy actually act with a measure of grace and decency.
Philips, agreed. Nandy, don’t know enough to comment. RLB has always come across as rather rude and arrogant. Have you seen her in three way interviews? She’s always making derisive noises whenever somebody disagrees with her - even though she is usually wrong.
Given that the bar is low and that politics is about the Law of Comparative Advantage, Laura Pidcock is a useful reminder that a number of Labour women, including RLB, JP, and Lisa Nandy actually act with a measure of grace and decency.
Philips, agreed. Nandy, don’t know enough to comment. RLB has always come across as rather rude and arrogant. Have you seen her in three way interviews? She’s always making derisive noises whenever somebody disagrees with her - even though she is usually wrong.
The politics of the students union (6th form version), It’s. possible that she will become an intellectual adult at some point. Time is running against her though.
Her loss was a mixed blessing for Conservatives.
On behalf of my sixth formers, I protest. They show far more dignity, respect and willingness to engage with the world around them than Pidcock ever has.
If you think that "What I Want To Happen," and "What Will Happen," are the same thing, I'm not following any of your calls on this website to do with betting on political events.
Your super sharp insights had hitherto passed me by, so we can probably be mutually satisfied on that point.
On a knowledge base that confidently asserts 'I don't think the SNP have ever got north of 45%', I'd change 'probably' to 'definitely'.
It's quite funny that you think that "they're already trending down!" means that they have a great future ahead of them. Can you explain why?
It's quite funny that you've gone from 'not following' any of my calls to asking me for explanations within 2 posts. I really don't think it's worth bothering with such vacillating flibbertigibbets.
The politics of the students union (6th form version), It’s. possible that she will become an intellectual adult at some point. Time is running against her though.
Her loss was a mixed blessing for Conservatives.
On behalf of my sixth formers, I protest. They show far more dignity, respect and willingness to engage with the world around them than Pidcock ever has.
If you think that "What I Want To Happen," and "What Will Happen," are the same thing, I'm not following any of your calls on this website to do with betting on political events.
Your super sharp insights had hitherto passed me by, so we can probably be mutually satisfied on that point.
On a knowledge base that confidently asserts 'I don't think the SNP have ever got north of 45%', I'd change 'probably' to 'definitely'.
It's quite funny that you think that "they're already trending down!" means that they have a great future ahead of them. Can you explain why?
It's quite funny that you've gone from 'not following' any of my calls to asking me for explanations within 2 posts. I really don't think it's worth bothering with such vacillating flibbertigibbets.
It's just that you seem to disagree, but can't find a counterargument. It's not a good look. You could at least try! It might be fun.
In more important news today, to drop Quinton de Kock once may be considered a misfortune, to do it twice looks like carelessness. But three times is just asking for it.
Leavers are entitled to their celebration. Why shouldn’t they enjoy a moment of happiness?
I think it’s a disaster but my dismay is not a reason to stop others revelling in their achievement.
I can't agree. I have moved on from the reality of its passing, but it feels like a poke in the eye that I am expected to endure the televised street parties on BBC1.
Turn the tv off that day. And be thankful that all the nation’s most appalling charlatans have volunteered to take themselves off to a small area filled with the rest of the nation’s choicest muppets that evening, to leave the rest of us in peace.
I have to say I tend to agree. Of the many disobliging things about Brexit, this is the most minimal of irritations, and really not worth going to war about.
Afternoon all. I just thought I'd quickly weigh in on the subject of standards, and divergence from the EU.
We're not going to diverge, in practical terms, from the EU in 99+% of product standards. Firstly, usually the EU standard is just the implementation of the global (usually ISO) standard. We will, however, become full members of most standard setting bodies, which is a mild benefit. Secondly, the market for products that don't meet EU/ISO standards is going to be tiny. Every piece of electronics anyone buys - worldwide - is likely to have the CE (EU), UL (US) and FCC (US) stamps on the back. Simply, manufacturers build to world standards, because there's really no point in building to just one country's standards. (This is true even of really big blocs: nobody even builds to just EU electronics emissions standards, preferring to build to the more restrictive US FCC ones.)
Where divergence will almost certainly happen is in Health & Safety, Environmental, Tax and Labour standards, as well as State Aid Rules. However, I would note that in all these areas, British regulations are typically more stringent than EU minimums. Divergence will happen here, and it will grow over time, as the EU implements new measures that are not implemented in the UK (and it's possible that the UK eliminates some existing measures).
Level Playing Field discussions will be about these rules. And we're as likely to insist on them as the EU. So, we will want provisions that prevent the French government subsidising a business that competes with a British firm for UK government contracts. More of an issue will be tax, where the UK desperately needs agreements with the EU (and individual EU countries) about elimination of withholding taxes, and avoiding double taxation.
Many FTAs contain level playing field rules. They always contain provisions about the use of standards as a trade barrier. And this stuff is complex, and involves competing priorities. Which is why it is hard to come to rapid agreement.
Many EU standards are international ones so to simply diverge for the sake of it seems madness .
The areas most likely to be effected by new trade barriers with the EU happen to be places with higher Leave votes so that’s what they voted for .
So they will of course be happy then ! As of course they knew what they were voting for allegedly !
I hope they don’t expect the tax payer to step in and save their jobs if manufacturing in those areas is badly hit . They voted for it and own it .
But at least they’ll have a shiny new blue passport and commemorative Brexit coin to wave around as they head off to the job centre !
As I posted up thread - current standards won’t change much - it’s future standards for new tech where we can diverge to our advantage.
In what ways? All new tech will need to be produced to EU standards anyway to be able to be sold into that market. What do you have in mind?
R&D - particularly in life sciences, AI etc. The EU will be the follower not the leader.
But what do you mean? How would we differ? Are you talking about taxation? Lower safety requirements?
Eg advanced gene therapy - we can get on with exploiting it without waiting for the EU to allow us to research and exploit it.
Many other examples - regulations are not just lawnmowers and cheese.
Right now, I'd say there's more cutting edge immunotherapy work happening in the rest of the EU than in the UK. As well as the megapharma companies, there's no shortage of pretty good EU startups in this space.
So much for it being an expression of mere youthful hyperbole as some have speculated. She really seems to believe it. She's 32 for crying out loud, not a child.
This Primary season is very short. The vast majority of contests are squeezed in the first 6 weeks between Feb. 3rd and March 17th.
Realistically there are only 4 candidates with hopes of winning either Iowa or N.Hampshire, so it all depends if two of those four drop out by S.Carolina.
A contested convention almost happened in both 2008 and 2016. They had 2 formidable candidates splitting the vote, but now they are a handfull of weak candidates.
I'm not convinced that 2016 had formidable candidates. It had a much diminished Hillary Clinton, and an aged socialist. (I would point out that Trump got a meaningfully smaller percentage of the electorate voting for him than voted for Mitt Romney. The Democrats lost because their voters did not come out for Hillary, not because Trump sent the Republican vote soaring.)
I think Warren, Buttigieg and Klobuchar are all better candidates than Clinton. However, I tend to agree that Biden and Sanders are worse. And they are, fortunately for the Don, the two front runners.
So much for it being an expression of mere youthful hyperbole as some have speculated. She really seems to believe it. She's 32 for crying out loud, not a child.
TBH I think that Tariq Ali has some sense on his side when he calls for a Labour newspaper, even if only on line. We've already seen the Heil suggesting that Starmer's parents have an Aga, and therefore are middle-class, and subsequently having to admit they were wrong.
Pidcock's an idiot though, if she doesn't think that JC's well publicised views are not significantly to blame.
Afternoon all. I just thought I'd quickly weigh in on the subject of standards, and divergence from the EU.
We're not going to diverge, in practical terms, from the EU in 99+% of product standards. Firstly, usually the EU standard is just the implementation of the global (usually ISO) standard. We will, however, become full members of most standard setting bodies, which is a mild benefit. Secondly, the market for products that don't meet EU/ISO standards is going to be tiny. Every piece of electronics anyone buys - worldwide - is likely to have the CE (EU), UL (US) and FCC (US) stamps on the back. Simply, manufacturers build to world standards, because there's really no point in building to just one country's standards. (This is true even of really big blocs: nobody even builds to just EU electronics emissions standards, preferring to build to the more restrictive US FCC ones.)
Where divergence will almost certainly happen is in Health & Safety, Environmental, Tax and Labour standards, as well as State Aid Rules. However, I would note that in all these areas, British regulations are typically more stringent than EU minimums. Divergence will happen here, and it will grow over time, as the EU implements new measures that are not implemented in the UK (and it's possible that the UK eliminates some existing measures).
Level Playing Field discussions will be about these rules. And we're as likely to insist on them as the EU. So, we will want provisions that prevent the French government subsidising a business that competes with a British firm for UK government contracts. More of an issue will be tax, where the UK desperately needs agreements with the EU (and individual EU countries) about elimination of withholding taxes, and avoiding double taxation.
Many FTAs contain level playing field rules. They always contain provisions about the use of standards as a trade barrier. And this stuff is complex, and involves competing priorities. Which is why it is hard to come to rapid agreement.
On data regulation, I suspect we’ll move a bit away from the EU in the US direction.
So much for it being an expression of mere youthful hyperbole as some have speculated. She really seems to believe it. She's 32 for crying out loud, not a child.
Farage won Brexit with much the same kind of rhetoric. He doesn't want to even be in the same country as foreigners.
She's the last person who should be giving lectures. As an MP newly elected in 2017, she should have enjoyed a significant increase in vote share in 2019, all other things being the same. Instead her vote share fell by 13.3%. An appalling result for Labour, with the silver lining only that it ruled her out of the running to succeed Corbyn.
Totally O/t but I had an odd phone call today. Looked like a mobile number, so could have been one of the grandchildren, but then the guy was obviously Asian. I asked him to state his business and he asked me if I spoke Hindi. I said I knew a few words, such as mufti and khaki and he then said some thing in Hindi and asked me to repeat it, saying he wanted to teach me a little Hindi. I replied in (not very good) Welsh and he started laughing. Not at my Welsh, but because he'd never heard the language. I then closed down the call. Anyone any idea what the guy was after?
So much for it being an expression of mere youthful hyperbole as some have speculated. She really seems to believe it. She's 32 for crying out loud, not a child.
TBH I think that Tariq Ali has some sense on his side when he calls for a Labour newspaper, even if only on line. We've already seen the Heil suggesting that Starmer's parents have an Aga, and therefore are middle-class, and subsequently having to admit they were wrong.
Pidcock's an idiot though, if she doesn't think that JC's well publicised views are not significantly to blame.
That Labour need a strategy and a leader to overcome a hostile media - even if not in that way - is not unreasonable, although it does show that despite their claims Corbyn did fail because he did not manage that, but Pidcock seems to be someone just defined by hatred, it is pitiable. To their credit, while being ardently opposed to the Tories I haven't got the impression any of the leadership candidates are that full of bile and silliness.
So much for it being an expression of mere youthful hyperbole as some have speculated. She really seems to believe it. She's 32 for crying out loud, not a child.
One wonders what Roger Scruton (RIP) would make of her attitude.
So much for it being an expression of mere youthful hyperbole as some have speculated. She really seems to believe it. She's 32 for crying out loud, not a child.
Farage won Brexit with much the same kind of rhetoric. He doesn't want to even be in the same country as foreigners.
It names the various policemen Involved in Operation Augusta, most of whom seem to have the memory of a goldfish, a bit of a problem for professional investigators, one would have thought.
The article also contains this gem -
“Even though it went nowhere, Op Augusta was considered by force top brass to be a beacon of good practice because, for the first time, a social worker was embedded with the detectives, the report reveals. A commendation was handed to the team.”
If that is what it takes to be commended, little wonder standards are so low.
So much for it being an expression of mere youthful hyperbole as some have speculated. She really seems to believe it. She's 32 for crying out loud, not a child.
Farage won Brexit with much the same kind of rhetoric. He doesn't want to even be in the same country as foreigners.
Like many of his ilk Farage seems fine with CANZArs. Maybe they're not real foreigners though.
Afternoon all. I just thought I'd quickly weigh in on the subject of standards, and divergence from the EU.
We're not going to diverge, in practical terms, from the EU in 99+% of product standards. Firstly, usually the EU standard is just the implementation of the global (usually ISO) standard. We will, however, become full members of most standard setting bodies, which is a mild benefit. Secondly, the market for products that don't meet EU/ISO standards is going to be tiny. Every piece of electronics anyone buys - worldwide - is likely to have the CE (EU), UL (US) and FCC (US) stamps on the back. Simply, manufacturers build to world standards, because there's really no point in building to just one country's standards. (This is true even of really big blocs: nobody even builds to just EU electronics emissions standards, preferring to build to the more restrictive US FCC ones.)
Where divergence will almost certainly happen is in Health & Safety, Environmental, Tax and Labour standards, as well as State Aid Rules. However, I would note that in all these areas, British regulations are typically more stringent than EU minimums. Divergence will happen here, and it will grow over time, as the EU implements new measures that are not implemented in the UK (and it's possible that the UK eliminates some existing measures).
Level Playing Field discussions will be about these rules. And we're as likely to insist on them as the EU. So, we will want provisions that prevent the French government subsidising a business that competes with a British firm for UK government contracts. More of an issue will be tax, where the UK desperately needs agreements with the EU (and individual EU countries) about elimination of withholding taxes, and avoiding double taxation.
Many FTAs contain level playing field rules. They always contain provisions about the use of standards as a trade barrier. And this stuff is complex, and involves competing priorities. Which is why it is hard to come to rapid agreement.
On data regulation, I suspect we’ll move a bit away from the EU in the US direction.
Although the new Californian laws are likely to be even more stringent than GPDR. Basically, we're all fucked.
So much for it being an expression of mere youthful hyperbole as some have speculated. She really seems to believe it. She's 32 for crying out loud, not a child.
Farage won Brexit with much the same kind of rhetoric. He doesn't want to even be in the same country as foreigners.
And if that is his view it's terrible, and has nothing to do with Pidcock's childishness. A brexit coalition or a labour coalition will be wide things, and will contain people who have views as stupid as that expressed by Pidcock or as put forth by Farage, but they are only ever a small part of the whole coalition, and counter intuitively the larger a proportion of any coalition they form, the narrower the coalition becomes as others are put off. It's why Farage appealed to plenty but put off even more so others had to do heavy lifting, and why Labour are fortunate Pidcock's nastiness is not the path the current candidates look to be taking.
In more important news today, to drop Quinton de Kock once may be considered a misfortune, to do it twice looks like carelessness. But three times is just asking for it.
I've noticed that you rather like talking about de Kock.
In more important news today, to drop Quinton de Kock once may be considered a misfortune, to do it twice looks like carelessness. But three times is just asking for it.
I've noticed that you rather like talking about de Kock.
And I don't blame you one iota.
What is the difference between the PM and the English cricket team?
The politics of the students union (6th form version), It’s. possible that she will become an intellectual adult at some point. Time is running against her though.
Her loss was a mixed blessing for Conservatives.
On behalf of my sixth formers, I protest. They show far more dignity, respect and willingness to engage with the world around them than Pidcock ever has.
I thought it was a teacher's job to knock that out of them, and indoctrinate them into the glories of international socialism to boot, I read that on the internet - you are quite lax, sir.
So much for it being an expression of mere youthful hyperbole as some have speculated. She really seems to believe it. She's 32 for crying out loud, not a child.
Farage won Brexit with much the same kind of rhetoric. He doesn't want to even be in the same country as foreigners.
And if that is his view it's terrible, and has nothing to do with Pidcock's childishness. A brexit coalition or a labour coalition will be wide things, and will contain people who have views as stupid as that expressed by Pidcock or as put forth by Farage, but they are only ever a small part of the whole coalition, and counter intuitively the larger a proportion of any coalition they form, the narrower the coalition becomes as others are put off. It's why Farage appealed to plenty but put off even more so others had to do heavy lifting, and why Labour are fortunate Pidcock's nastiness is not the path the current candidates look to be taking.
Farage won Brexit by going there, Cummings took the credit and kept the blood off the Tories' hands, but be in no doubt Farage did the heavy lifting and people now expect an end to free movement of foreigners into their country.
Anyone know if today’s Labour hustings in Liverpool is available to stream anywhere? I know it was live but there does not appear to be a catch-up version.
So much for it being an expression of mere youthful hyperbole as some have speculated. She really seems to believe it. She's 32 for crying out loud, not a child.
One wonders what Roger Scruton (RIP) would make of her attitude.
Good old Rog, he would never thrive on divisiveness and scorn.
“It’s been a great adventure for me to be so hated by people I hold in contempt.”
Totally O/t but I had an odd phone call today. Looked like a mobile number, so could have been one of the grandchildren, but then the guy was obviously Asian. I asked him to state his business and he asked me if I spoke Hindi. I said I knew a few words, such as mufti and khaki and he then said some thing in Hindi and asked me to repeat it, saying he wanted to teach me a little Hindi. I replied in (not very good) Welsh and he started laughing. Not at my Welsh, but because he'd never heard the language. I then closed down the call. Anyone any idea what the guy was after?
He probably wanted you to say in Hindi, I bequeath you all my worldly goods......
So much for it being an expression of mere youthful hyperbole as some have speculated. She really seems to believe it. She's 32 for crying out loud, not a child.
Farage won Brexit with much the same kind of rhetoric. He doesn't want to even be in the same country as foreigners.
And if that is his view it's terrible, and has nothing to do with Pidcock's childishness. A brexit coalition or a labour coalition will be wide things, and will contain people who have views as stupid as that expressed by Pidcock or as put forth by Farage, but they are only ever a small part of the whole coalition, and counter intuitively the larger a proportion of any coalition they form, the narrower the coalition becomes as others are put off. It's why Farage appealed to plenty but put off even more so others had to do heavy lifting, and why Labour are fortunate Pidcock's nastiness is not the path the current candidates look to be taking.
Farage won Brexit by going there, Cummings took the credit and kept the blood off the Tories' hands, but be in no doubt Farage did the heavy lifting and people now expect an end to free movement of foreigners into their country.
The point was that people can argue about how high the proportion of extremist views within a wider coalition, but if it is seen as reflective of the coalition it becomes ineffective - your point reinforces that by noting that the less unpalatable part took the credit. With a Pidcock in the helm Labour might have struggled yet further. With someone else they can keep the hateful, childish Pidcock tendency without being defined by it.
Within the latest Labour members poll, 44% think Labour should not campaign in favour of Rejoin compared with 35% who think the party should. This from a membership base that was about 91% in favour of Remain.
If the new leadership decides to move on from the issue of Brexit, as well they should as precondition of rebuilding support in Labour's former heartlands, the membership isn't going to stand in the leader's way.
She's the last person who should be giving lectures. As an MP newly elected in 2017, she should have enjoyed a significant increase in vote share in 2019, all other things being the same. Instead her vote share fell by 13.3%. An appalling result for Labour, with the silver lining only that it ruled her out of the running to succeed Corbyn.
As Pidcock has made perfectly clear, she lost her seat because of Blair.
So much for it being an expression of mere youthful hyperbole as some have speculated. She really seems to believe it. She's 32 for crying out loud, not a child.
Thankfully, the voters know a prat when they see one.
Totally O/t but I had an odd phone call today. Looked like a mobile number, so could have been one of the grandchildren, but then the guy was obviously Asian. I asked him to state his business and he asked me if I spoke Hindi. I said I knew a few words, such as mufti and khaki and he then said some thing in Hindi and asked me to repeat it, saying he wanted to teach me a little Hindi. I replied in (not very good) Welsh and he started laughing. Not at my Welsh, but because he'd never heard the language. I then closed down the call. Anyone any idea what the guy was after?
He probably wanted you to say in Hindi, I bequeath you all my worldly goods......
That was my thought. Or something like it. Odd though.
Anyone know if today’s Labour hustings in Liverpool is available to stream anywhere? I know it was live but there does not appear to be a catch-up version.
Within the latest Labour members poll, 44% think Labour should not campaign in favour of Rejoin compared with 35% who think the party should. This from a membership base that was about 91% in favour of Remain.
If the new leadership decides to move on from the issue of Brexit, as well they should as precondition of rebuilding support in Labour's former heartlands, the membership isn't going to stand in the leader's way.
I'm sure one could find among the late David Lloyd-George's friends and associates plenty of people who thought the pendulum would swing back his way. Indeed, the 1950 GE campaign was based on that. 'What's the time? Time we had the Liberals back!' And much good did it do them.
She's the last person who should be giving lectures. As an MP newly elected in 2017, she should have enjoyed a significant increase in vote share in 2019, all other things being the same. Instead her vote share fell by 13.3%. An appalling result for Labour, with the silver lining only that it ruled her out of the running to succeed Corbyn.
As Pidcock has made perfectly clear, she lost her seat because of Blair.
Doesn't quite make up for invading Iraq but its a start, I suppose.
The politics of the students union (6th form version), It’s. possible that she will become an intellectual adult at some point. Time is running against her though.
Her loss was a mixed blessing for Conservatives.
On behalf of my sixth formers, I protest. They show far more dignity, respect and willingness to engage with the world around them than Pidcock ever has.
I thought it was a teacher's job to knock that out of them, and indoctrinate them into the glories of international socialism to boot, I read that on the internet - you are quite lax, sir.
Yes, I teach the little bastards to think for themselves, question everything and always find evidence.
It’s very wrong of me. It did actually cost me a job once when I applied for a role in an LEA school.
Anyone know if today’s Labour hustings in Liverpool is available to stream anywhere? I know it was live but there does not appear to be a catch-up version.
I admire your dedication to the leadership election.
I attended hustings in 2010 and 2015. Definitely good to see the candidates up close.
She's the last person who should be giving lectures. As an MP newly elected in 2017, she should have enjoyed a significant increase in vote share in 2019, all other things being the same. Instead her vote share fell by 13.3%. An appalling result for Labour, with the silver lining only that it ruled her out of the running to succeed Corbyn.
As Pidcock has made perfectly clear, she lost her seat because of Blair.
Nothing to do with her spending more time banging her boyfriend on an Italian holiday than working on her constituency. No sireee.
It is not really my place to comment on the labour leadership contest but as it looks from an outsider Lisa Nandy is the only one with any sense of the magnitude of the problem and I am of the opinion that she would take labour back to a point where they could contest the 'red wall' seats in five years
The rest are either tainted with the last labour opposition, and Corbyn in particular with two of them from the London remain elite, or in Jess Phillips is a dreamer
Even though it could cause the conservatives problems in the future, I hope Lisa wins through, but it is more likely labour will shoot themselves in the foot once again, sadly
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https://cleantechnica.com/2020/01/17/more-evidence-of-a-republican-pivot-on-climate/
This Primary season is very short.
The vast majority of contests are squeezed in the first 6 weeks between Feb. 3rd and March 17th.
Realistically there are only 4 candidates with hopes of winning either Iowa or N.Hampshire, so it all depends if two of those four drop out by S.Carolina.
A contested convention almost happened in both 2008 and 2016. They had 2 formidable candidates splitting the vote, but now they are a handfull of weak candidates.
... people said, ‘is Labour going to be able to deliver? No. Can it run the economy? No.’
Edited transcript of a speech Professor Sir John Curtice gave at the Fabian Society conference this morning:
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2020/01/why-labour-lost/
Because Labour was perceived as not able to win a majority to deliver on it's promises, so a vote for Labour was simply a vote for another few years of more damaging chaos.
Your view that we should all go around in sackcloth and ashes to take into account remainer sensitivities is unrealistic and deeply hypocritical.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/aishagani/how-britain-celebrated-joining-eec
When Harold called the referendum and it was won by remain there was no fanfare just relief.
'The electorate expressed significant support for EC membership, with 67% in favour on a national turnout of 64%.'
https://twitter.com/jercor1/status/1218283699768373248?s=20
Obviously some like Private Francois' family were busy polishing their ARP tin hats for their own second victory in Europe day over 45 years later.
Personally I think that celebration would be best left private.
Are we going to see unions fall in behind CLPs if a significant number go for Starmer-Rayner reality ticket.
I think it’s a disaster but my dismay is not a reason to stop others revelling in their achievement.
Good one.
Down from 190 to 120.
And the test match - who would have bet on Stokes dropping three chances ?
Labour came this close to her being leader.
I have moved on from the reality of its passing, but it feels like a poke in the eye that I am expected to endure the televised street parties on BBC1.
[For what it's worth, I'm not a fan of marches, street parties, or any of that nonsense].
... Given that Joe Biden is the front-runner and his stance on climate is definitively moderate, being the weakest among the front-runners, there is a lot of room for more radical solutions, even if they are poor solutions that pander for votes.
One can imagine a Republican-made solution which goes on a war footing to build out nuclear, for example. Or they could take planks from Andrew Yang’s playbook, and offer trillions in low-interest guaranteed loans for home solar, a very expensive and tiny wedge that would play well to their base and to suburban and rural Independents. They could steal Bernie Sander’s pledge to give trillions in rebates to electric car purchasers, without addressing anything else....
On a knowledge base that confidently asserts 'I don't think the SNP have ever got north of 45%', I'd change 'probably' to 'definitely'.
Her loss was a mixed blessing for Conservatives.
She sums up all that’s wrong with the modern left, as do Sarker and Peters-Bastani. But most of all, that attitude explains why they were so surprised at being rejected, and goes a long way towards explaining why they were rejected.
Of the many disobliging things about Brexit, this is the most minimal of irritations, and really not worth going to war about.
We're not going to diverge, in practical terms, from the EU in 99+% of product standards. Firstly, usually the EU standard is just the implementation of the global (usually ISO) standard. We will, however, become full members of most standard setting bodies, which is a mild benefit. Secondly, the market for products that don't meet EU/ISO standards is going to be tiny. Every piece of electronics anyone buys - worldwide - is likely to have the CE (EU), UL (US) and FCC (US) stamps on the back. Simply, manufacturers build to world standards, because there's really no point in building to just one country's standards. (This is true even of really big blocs: nobody even builds to just EU electronics emissions standards, preferring to build to the more restrictive US FCC ones.)
Where divergence will almost certainly happen is in Health & Safety, Environmental, Tax and Labour standards, as well as State Aid Rules. However, I would note that in all these areas, British regulations are typically more stringent than EU minimums. Divergence will happen here, and it will grow over time, as the EU implements new measures that are not implemented in the UK (and it's possible that the UK eliminates some existing measures).
Level Playing Field discussions will be about these rules. And we're as likely to insist on them as the EU. So, we will want provisions that prevent the French government subsidising a business that competes with a British firm for UK government contracts. More of an issue will be tax, where the UK desperately needs agreements with the EU (and individual EU countries) about elimination of withholding taxes, and avoiding double taxation.
Many FTAs contain level playing field rules. They always contain provisions about the use of standards as a trade barrier. And this stuff is complex, and involves competing priorities. Which is why it is hard to come to rapid agreement.
I think Warren, Buttigieg and Klobuchar are all better candidates than Clinton. However, I tend to agree that Biden and Sanders are worse. And they are, fortunately for the Don, the two front runners.
We've already seen the Heil suggesting that Starmer's parents have an Aga, and therefore are middle-class, and subsequently having to admit they were wrong.
Pidcock's an idiot though, if she doesn't think that JC's well publicised views are not significantly to blame.
I then closed down the call.
Anyone any idea what the guy was after?
It names the various policemen Involved in Operation Augusta, most of whom seem to have the memory of a goldfish, a bit of a problem for professional investigators, one would have thought.
The article also contains this gem -
“Even though it went nowhere, Op Augusta was considered by force top brass to be a beacon of good practice because, for the first time, a social worker was embedded with the detectives, the report reveals. A commendation was handed to the team.”
If that is what it takes to be commended, little wonder standards are so low.
And I don't blame you one iota.
“It’s been a great adventure for me to be so hated by people I hold in contempt.”
If the new leadership decides to move on from the issue of Brexit, as well they should as precondition of rebuilding support in Labour's former heartlands, the membership isn't going to stand in the leader's way.
'What's the time? Time we had the Liberals back!'
And much good did it do them.
It’s very wrong of me. It did actually cost me a job once when I applied for a role in an LEA school.
I attended hustings in 2010 and 2015. Definitely good to see the candidates up close.
The rest are either tainted with the last labour opposition, and Corbyn in particular with two of them from the London remain elite, or in Jess Phillips is a dreamer
Even though it could cause the conservatives problems in the future, I hope Lisa wins through, but it is more likely labour will shoot themselves in the foot once again, sadly