Well this will be entertaining. Full out civil war, as the Labour Party implodes.
I wouldn't really take Simon Danczuk as representative of all Blairites or all centrists or anyone else except his constituents.
In general, I expect a Corbyn-led party to be fairly relaxed about politely-expressed dissidence - a fierce whipping operation would be a bit silly, and not really necessary at present.I'd expect a year or two of guarded mutual acquiescence - Blairites won't want to be accused of sabotaging the effort and will just quietly abstain when they feel like it, and Corbyn will have better things to do than act as witchfinder general. If things went well, most MPs would go along with it contentedly, and if they went badly then I doubt if Corbyn would insist on driving the car over the cliff in 2020.
I noted your post this morning indicating that you've moved on from seeking election to the Commons. Good luck in your future endeavours.
If you have the time might you post an overview of how you saw the final days of the election in Broxtowe ?
Welcome back, Jack. We had a lengthy post mortem on this while you were away, so I'm reluctant to reopen it, especially as various contributors were obsessively nasty about it, but briefly, I thought that we were clearly winning a few months before the election, and there were signs that the Tories thought so too, but the election campaign went from bad to worse, and in the final 24 hours it became clear that it was going to end badly, with previous apparently firm promises going soft. The familiar themes - economy, SNP, Miliband - all played a part, more than local issues, but a 31% turnover in the electorate since 2010 was unhelpful too. (All just IMO, of course.)
Being neither a Labour supporter nor a (maliciously inclined?) entryist I’ve not seen a ballot paper. How does one tell that it was tell whether it was genuine or submitted by an MIE?
Being neither a Labour supporter nor a (maliciously inclined?) entryist I’ve not seen a ballot paper. How does one tell that it was tell whether it was genuine or submitted by an MIE?
I think you look for the tell-tale sign of a '1' by the name Jeremy Corbyn.
Being neither a Labour supporter nor a (maliciously inclined?) entryist I’ve not seen a ballot paper. How does one tell that it was tell whether it was genuine or submitted by an MIE?
I think you look for the tell-tale sign of a '1' by the name Jeremy Corbyn.
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Mr. Eagles, so you think Corbyn will become leader but not last a year?
I suspect he'll find the sudden stress of being Leader at the age of 67 - a far more demanding and high profile job - very tiring.. On the other hand he might surprise everyone and like it.
@SamCoatesTimes: Breaking - the 3 non-Corbyn campaigns getting together to write a letter of complaint to Labour HQ about unfairness at process
Oh, you bloody fools. I've predicted a Labour GE win for more than 5 years (I figure after being so very wrong this time, I have to be right in 2020, surely?), but if any of those three becomes leader, now or later, I may begin to have doubts.
Being neither a Labour supporter nor a (maliciously inclined?) entryist I’ve not seen a ballot paper. How does one tell that it was tell whether it was genuine or submitted by an MIE?
I think you look for the tell-tale sign of a '1' by the name Jeremy Corbyn.
Will
'1' Kendall '2' Corbyn
pass Harriet's test ?
Dunno, but that's the most damaging ballot you can cast. Not only does it help Jeremy win, but it also gives ammunition to the Blairites so they can argue that they too have support, thereby deepening the split.
Edit: careful with the blockquote tags. You seem to have deleted all the opening tags, but kept all the closing ones. Makes the post look a right mess when replied to!
Good luck to Chuka and Kendall trying to hold their seats under a Conservative label (or a label like "Liberal Unionists" which is specifically affiliated with the Tories). I doubt they have particularly high personal votes which would allow them to carry over a significant amount of tribal Labour voters over with them.
Leicester West has quite a large LD, Kipper and Tory vote. Not that safe for Labour, winnable but academic. Kendall will be part of the fightback.
Leicester West is also undersized (the other 2 Leicester seats are alright) and will need to take in 10k voters from outside the City boundary (I guess from Charnwood). This would I presume make it a lot more marginal.
@Chris123 Did you manage to lay off your Andy position in time ?
Partly. I arbitraged and reduced my exposure to 6K. The return is still the same as before. My thinking was (and is) that there would be pressure from the Labour leadership for the least viable candidates to make way for the most electable person among the three to keep out Corbyn (that would clearly be Burnham as five consecutive polls by different companies indicate). But the ego factor may preclude this from happening. Short of that, I don't see Corbyn losing this.
Kim Jong-Il should've spent more time teaching his son how to be a dictator.
So every senior official he inherited has been shot, 'retired' or disappeared. One of them was allegedly shot in public using a flak gun.
Is there any chance the Chinese could do us a favour and have him quietly locked up in a lunatic asylum where he belongs? Unless Jowell would like him as a male model.
Mr. Flashman (deceased), are you suggesting the Miliband-designed electoral system is somehow flawed?
Preposterous!
As an aside, Miliband's system would actually work reasonably well if Labour MPs hadn't supported someone they, er, don't support.
It wasn't designed by Miliband - it was the Blairites who wanted this system.
Ironically enough they kind of did open the door to it - when it initially looked like Kendall was struggling to get enough MP nominations, the Blairites were going around saying how it was unfair for MPs to close off the grassroots' options, and how a "broad debate" was essential. Then a few weeks later, predictably enough, the Corbynistas used that very logic to insist (with justification) that the Left was entitled to get a leg-up just as Kendall had.
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@PeterMannionMP: Candidates to write joint letter... Liz to draft frownily on her Mac Andy to add refs to 'our Mams' Yvette to tone down so it says nothing
Mr. Flashman (deceased), are you suggesting the Miliband-designed electoral system is somehow flawed?
Preposterous!
As an aside, Miliband's system would actually work reasonably well if Labour MPs hadn't supported someone they, er, don't support.
It wasn't designed by Miliband - it was the Blairites who wanted this system.
You cannot moan about the system at the point the "electoral register" closes. They should've done this weeks ago at nomination point at the latest, as it was, and is as plain as a pikestaff that 3 quid a vote is open to abuse.
These people could've been running Govt depts, on May 8th. Frankly they don't look capable of running a bath right now, which we should all be concerned about because Govt's need decent oppositions or they tend to go off doing daft things.
The Blairites have been pitiful throughout. Kendall chose to be Ms Unpopular Opinion, then didn't develop a position beyond Grow-Up.
And that's been it. Sure she's been picked on - but her campaign has been almost invisible - even Andy has managed more media stunts [using his parents and children unfortunately].
If I'd never seen her that first time with Andrew Neil, I'd have little idea who she was or why she was standing.
Mr. Flashman (deceased), are you suggesting the Miliband-designed electoral system is somehow flawed?
Preposterous!
As an aside, Miliband's system would actually work reasonably well if Labour MPs hadn't supported someone they, er, don't support.
It wasn't designed by Miliband - it was the Blairites who wanted this system.
Ironically enough they kind of did open the door to it - when it initially looked like Kendall was struggling to get enough MP nominations, the Blairites were going around saying how it was unfair for MPs to close off the grassroots' options. Then a few weeks later, predictably enough, the Corbynistas used that very logic to insist (with justification) that the Left was entitled to get a leg-up just as Kendall had.
Finding a shadow chancellor will be the hardest task for Corbyn. They need someone who is in tune with the leadership and talk about anti-austerity for a couple of years. It'd have to be an MP from Corbyn's wing of the party.
Everyone is saying that the rules of Labour's leadership election are wrong, but I disagree.
Corbyn is the one that has the most support amongst Labour supporters and therefore he should be the one to win the election. That's how democracy should work.
The fact that he's completely bonkers is neither here nor there.
@PeterMannionMP: Candidates to write joint letter... Liz to draft frownily on her Mac Andy to add refs to 'our Mams' Yvette to tone down so it says nothing
Good luck to Chuka and Kendall trying to hold their seats under a Conservative label (or a label like "Liberal Unionists" which is specifically affiliated with the Tories). I doubt they have particularly high personal votes which would allow them to carry over a significant amount of tribal Labour voters over with them.
Leicester West has quite a large LD, Kipper and Tory vote. Not that safe for Labour, winnable but academic. Kendall will be part of the fightback.
Leicester West is also undersized (the other 2 Leicester seats are alright) and will need to take in 10k voters from outside the City boundary (I guess from Charnwood). This would I presume make it a lot more marginal.
It's more likely they'll attempt to equalise the electorates within Leicester itself by moving one ward from Leicester South and one from East to West.
You cannot moan about the system at the point the "electoral register" closes. They should've done this weeks ago at nomination point at the latest, as it was, and is as plain as a pikestaff that 3 quid a vote is open to abuse.
The had few or no complaints until Corbyn started creeping up on them, and if one of them yet edges it I suspect that their complaints will be shelved and nobody will be calling for a re-run.
Finding a shadow chancellor will be the hardest task for Corbyn. They need someone who is in tune with the leadership and talk about anti-austerity for a couple of years. It'd have to be an MP from Corbyn's wing of the party.
Finding a shadow chancellor will be the hardest task for Corbyn. They need someone who is in tune with the leadership and talk about anti-austerity for a couple of years. It'd have to be an MP from Corbyn's wing of the party.
@PeterMannionMP: Candidates to write joint letter... Liz to draft frownily on her Mac Andy to add refs to 'our Mams' Yvette to tone down so it says nothing
Hilarious. Liz to draft it frownily on her Mac while she paces up and down at night... Andy to write it in the company of his mom and dad who continually pat him on the shoulder... Yvette brooding and contemplating how to tell us that it's all part and parcel of a patriarchist system designed to keep out the female leader everyone is secretly yearning for.
Finding a shadow chancellor will be the hardest task for Corbyn. They need someone who is in tune with the leadership and talk about anti-austerity for a couple of years. It'd have to be an MP from Corbyn's wing of the party.
So - you can join the Labour Party as a supporter to vote in the leadership election, but if you do, they'll ask you who you intend to vote for before deciding if your vote counts? Not exactly a model of democracy, is it? As an aside, how much must this palaver be costing them? Surely it is costing them in excess of £3 to phone up each new supporter? Are they trying to bankrupt themselves before their donors do it for them?
Everyone is saying that the rules of Labour's leadership election are wrong, but I disagree.
Corbyn is the one that has the most support amongst Labour supporters and therefore he should be the one to win the election. That's how democracy should work.
The fact that he's completely bonkers is neither here nor there.
The point is, ladies and gentlemen, that Jezza, for lack of a better word, is good. Jezza is right, Jezza works. Jezza clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the (R)evolutionary spirit. Jezza, in all of his forms; Jezza for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And Jezza, you mark my words, will not only save the Labour Party, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the UK. Thank you very much.
Good luck to Chuka and Kendall trying to hold their seats under a Conservative label (or a label like "Liberal Unionists" which is specifically affiliated with the Tories). I doubt they have particularly high personal votes which would allow them to carry over a significant amount of tribal Labour voters over with them.
Leicester West has quite a large LD, Kipper and Tory vote. Not that safe for Labour, winnable but academic. Kendall will be part of the fightback.
Leicester West is also undersized (the other 2 Leicester seats are alright) and will need to take in 10k voters from outside the City boundary (I guess from Charnwood). This would I presume make it a lot more marginal.
It's more likely they'll attempt to equalise the electorates within Leicester itself by moving one ward from Leicester South and one from East to West.
Not necessarily - in the (now abandoned) redrawing of boundaries during the last parliament, the electoral commission were (due to their terms of reference) much more willing to cross boundaries, and much less willing to tolerate boundaries that deviated too far from the mean than previously. Made their task very difficult, and made for some quite odd shaped constituencies.
I can't believe that the ballots are open for a month. I know Labour are now saying they're not sending them out/vetting passim, but 4 weeks to vote is going to be horrific for their Party.
The leaks/allegations of leaks and campaigning or not by each side?
If they decide to bring in an area outside Leicester City council, the most obvious candidate would be Braunstone Town. Although it's part of the safe Tory seat of South Leicestershire, at the local elections held on the same day as the general election the 3 district council seats covering Braunstone Town were — rather surprisingly — automatic Labour wins with the seats being uncontested by other parties.
Good luck to Chuka and Kendall trying to hold their seats under a Conservative label (or a label like "Liberal Unionists" which is specifically affiliated with the Tories). I doubt they have particularly high personal votes which would allow them to carry over a significant amount of tribal Labour voters over with them.
Leicester West has quite a large LD, Kipper and Tory vote. Not that safe for Labour, winnable but academic. Kendall will be part of the fightback.
Leicester West is also undersized (the other 2 Leicester seats are alright) and will need to take in 10k voters from outside the City boundary (I guess from Charnwood). This would I presume make it a lot more marginal.
It's more likely they'll attempt to equalise the electorates within Leicester itself by moving one ward from Leicester South and one from East to West.
Not necessarily - in the (now abandoned) redrawing of boundaries during the last parliament, the electoral commission were (due to their terms of reference) much more willing to cross boundaries, and much less willing to tolerate boundaries that deviated too far from the mean than previously. Made their task very difficult, and made for some quite odd shaped constituencies.
Good luck to Chuka and Kendall trying to hold their seats under a Conservative label (or a label like "Liberal Unionists" which is specifically affiliated with the Tories). I doubt they have particularly high personal votes which would allow them to carry over a significant amount of tribal Labour voters over with them.
Leicester West has quite a large LD, Kipper and Tory vote. Not that safe for Labour, winnable but academic. Kendall will be part of the fightback.
Leicester West is also undersized (the other 2 Leicester seats are alright) and will need to take in 10k voters from outside the City boundary (I guess from Charnwood). This would I presume make it a lot more marginal.
It's more likely they'll attempt to equalise the electorates within Leicester itself by moving one ward from Leicester South and one from East to West.
Not necessarily - in the (now abandoned) redrawing of boundaries during the last parliament, the electoral commission were (due to their terms of reference) much more willing to cross boundaries, and much less willing to tolerate boundaries that deviated too far from the mean than previously. Made their task very difficult, and made for some quite odd shaped constituencies.
So what do we think the true price of a Jeremy Corbyn win is in the light of this news? 1.1?
It's ridiculous. In all honesty, if I were a right-wing Labour Party member, I might in all seriousness be voting for Corbyn now out of sheer exasperation over the pathetic petulance and uselessness of the other candidates.
Good luck to Chuka and Kendall trying to hold their seats under a Conservative label (or a label like "Liberal Unionists" which is specifically affiliated with the Tories). I doubt they have particularly high personal votes which would allow them to carry over a significant amount of tribal Labour voters over with them.
Leicester West has quite a large LD, Kipper and Tory vote. Not that safe for Labour, winnable but academic. Kendall will be part of the fightback.
Leicester West is also undersized (the other 2 Leicester seats are alright) and will need to take in 10k voters from outside the City boundary (I guess from Charnwood). This would I presume make it a lot more marginal.
It's more likely they'll attempt to equalise the electorates within Leicester itself by moving one ward from Leicester South and one from East to West.
Not necessarily - in the (now abandoned) redrawing of boundaries during the last parliament, the electoral commission were (due to their terms of reference) much more willing to cross boundaries, and much less willing to tolerate boundaries that deviated too far from the mean than previously. Made their task very difficult, and made for some quite odd shaped constituencies.
As I recall the number of constituencies in Leics was not going to change. Leicester W would become more marginal if it took in some of the county.
But I expect Liz to stick it out within Labour, so theoretical.
I think if the 3 ABCers are gong to express concerns about the process they should now call for the leadership election contest to be suspended and withdraw from the race. Harman to continue as Deputy Leader until an enquiry into the process has been carried out. Then a new race under new rules could be planned for later in the year.
Everyone is saying that the rules of Labour's leadership election are wrong, but I disagree. Corbyn is the one that has the most support amongst Labour supporters and therefore he should be the one to win the election. That's how democracy should work. The fact that he's completely bonkers is neither here nor there.
So what do we think the true price of a Jeremy Corbyn win is in the light of this news? 1.1?
It's ridiculous. In all honesty, if I were a right-wing Labour Party member, I might in all seriousness be voting for Corbyn now out of sheer exasperation over the pathetic petulance and uselessness of the other candidates.
There is only one thing Cooper can do now to stop him.
Withdraw.
I would say a legal challenge seems contrary to that.
In times like these when the world seems to be getting more and more crazily unpredictable, it is reassuring to find that some things are metronomically consistent
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If they decide to bring in an area outside Leicester City council, the most obvious candidate would be Braunstone Town. Although it's part of the safe Tory seat of South Leicestershire, at the local elections held on the same day as the general election the 3 district council seats covering Braunstone Town were — rather surprisingly — automatic Labour wins with the seats being uncontested by other parties.
Good luck to Chuka and Kendall trying to hold their seats under a Conservative label (or a label like "Liberal Unionists" which is specifically affiliated with the Tories). I doubt they have particularly high personal votes which would allow them to carry over a significant amount of tribal Labour voters over with them.
Leicester West has quite a large LD, Kipper and Tory vote. Not that safe for Labour, winnable but academic. Kendall will be part of the fightback.
Leicester West is also undersized (the other 2 Leicester seats are alright) and will need to take in 10k voters from outside the City boundary (I guess from Charnwood). This would I presume make it a lot more marginal.
It's more likely they'll attempt to equalise the electorates within Leicester itself by moving one ward from Leicester South and one from East to West.
Not necessarily - in the (now abandoned) redrawing of boundaries during the last parliament, the electoral commission were (due to their terms of reference) much more willing to cross boundaries, and much less willing to tolerate boundaries that deviated too far from the mean than previously. Made their task very difficult, and made for some quite odd shaped constituencies.
I know some people who used to live in Braunstone. Its not really a Tory area I think.
Senior moment. Did we have a PB 2015 competition for things such as Labour's low/high polling with ICM? If we did this Corbyn event could blow the forecast out of the water.
I can't believe that the ballots are open for a month. I know Labour are now saying they're not sending them out/vetting passim, but 4 weeks to vote is going to be horrific for their Party.
The leaks/allegations of leaks and campaigning or not by each side?
Is there anything left to go wrong with this leadership race, that hasn’t already happened?
Another month to go before the winner is announced – will there be a party to lead – or two?
Worth remembering that the people who devised this expected to be in Government right now implementing a whole series of policies that go against the flow of the market place. It would be like looking into the bowels of hell.
Senior moment. Did we have a PB 2015 competition for things such as Labour's low/high polling with ICM? If we did this Corbyn event could blow the forecast out of the water.
If they decide to bring in an area outside Leicester City council, the most obvious candidate would be Braunstone Town. Although it's part of the safe Tory seat of South Leicestershire, at the local elections held on the same day as the general election the 3 district council seats covering Braunstone Town were — rather surprisingly — automatic Labour wins with the seats being uncontested by other parties.
Good luck to Chuka and Kendall trying to hold their seats under a Conservative label (or a label like "Liberal Unionists" which is specifically affiliated with the Tories). I doubt they have particularly high personal votes which would allow them to carry over a significant amount of tribal Labour voters over with them.
Leicester West has quite a large LD, Kipper and Tory vote. Not that safe for Labour, winnable but academic. Kendall will be part of the fightback.
Leicester West is also undersized (the other 2 Leicester seats are alright) and will need to take in 10k voters from outside the City boundary (I guess from Charnwood). This would I presume make it a lot more marginal.
It's more likely they'll attempt to equalise the electorates within Leicester itself by moving one ward from Leicester South and one from East to West.
Not necessarily - in the (now abandoned) redrawing of boundaries during the last parliament, the electoral commission were (due to their terms of reference) much more willing to cross boundaries, and much less willing to tolerate boundaries that deviated too far from the mean than previously. Made their task very difficult, and made for some quite odd shaped constituencies.
Not too surprising if you have been to Braunstone. It was once a village but now 1930's Semi-detached heaven.
Everyone is saying that the rules of Labour's leadership election are wrong, but I disagree.
Corbyn is the one that has the most support amongst Labour supporters and therefore he should be the one to win the election. That's how democracy should work.
The fact that he's completely bonkers is neither here nor there.
Parties can choose however they want to elect their leaders. I don't see that it even has to be particularly democratic, if they don't want it to be. The problem is they've agreed a series of rules, and some people didn't like them and worked around them, others fear the rules are open to abuse, and its all stirred up by fear of the 'wrong' person winning
Mr. P, I'm sure he's as worried as we were when the Anglo-Zanzibar War began.
I don’t think “we” in the sense of the general British population knew it had either started or finished. Had consequences for the population of Heligoland, though!
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Everyone is saying that the rules of Labour's leadership election are wrong, but I disagree. Corbyn is the one that has the most support amongst Labour supporters and therefore he should be the one to win the election. That's how democracy should work. The fact that he's completely bonkers is neither here nor there.
Stupid Is What Stupid Does. Forrest Gump
"Mama always said life was like a box of chocolates. You don't know what you're gonna get."
Everyone is saying that the rules of Labour's leadership election are wrong, but I disagree. Corbyn is the one that has the most support amongst Labour supporters and therefore he should be the one to win the election. That's how democracy should work. The fact that he's completely bonkers is neither here nor there.
Stupid Is What Stupid Does. Forrest Gump
"Mama always said life was like a box of chocolates. You don't know what you're gonna get."
I think if the 3 ABCers are gong to express concerns about the process they should now call for the leadership election contest to be suspended and withdraw from the race. Harman to continue as Deputy Leader until an enquiry into the process has been carried out. Then a new race under new rules could be planned for later in the year.
Pedantic, I know, but isn’t the sainted Harriet Acting Leader (as well as officially Deputy)
Campaign sources say that the contact details of trade union members - some 90,000 strong - are being withheld from their campaigns.
Meanwhile, insiders report that the details of trade union members have been passed onto party headquarters with their telephone numbers scrubbed, preventing either the party or the candidates from contacting them.
But, they allege, the Jeremy Corbyn campaign has been given direct access to these members, handing them an advantage.
The Cooper, Burnham and Kendall teams are also pushing for the party to tell all four campaigns when members have voted to prevent activists being bombarded with unnecessary communications.
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For any electorate, that's not clever.
Keep up the good work comrades.
This is the funniest spectacle I've ever been treated to in UK politics. Only the Republican nomination contests have been as much fun.
In general, I expect a Corbyn-led party to be fairly relaxed about politely-expressed dissidence - a fierce whipping operation would be a bit silly, and not really necessary at present.I'd expect a year or two of guarded mutual acquiescence - Blairites won't want to be accused of sabotaging the effort and will just quietly abstain when they feel like it, and Corbyn will have better things to do than act as witchfinder general. If things went well, most MPs would go along with it contentedly, and if they went badly then I doubt if Corbyn would insist on driving the car over the cliff in 2020. Welcome back, Jack. We had a lengthy post mortem on this while you were away, so I'm reluctant to reopen it, especially as various contributors were obsessively nasty about it, but briefly, I thought that we were clearly winning a few months before the election, and there were signs that the Tories thought so too, but the election campaign went from bad to worse, and in the final 24 hours it became clear that it was going to end badly, with previous apparently firm promises going soft. The familiar themes - economy, SNP, Miliband - all played a part, more than local issues, but a 31% turnover in the electorate since 2010 was unhelpful too. (All just IMO, of course.)
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They're made up of 282,000 paid-up members, 92,000 union affiliates and 70,000 registered supporters who've paid a £3 fee."
Imagine a EU referendum where 80 million EU citizens moved to the Uk in the run up to the vote and were added to the electoral roll.
There would be outrage - and rightly so.
They have totally mismanaged this election - thank god it's this and not the country.
Preposterous!
As an aside, Miliband's system would actually work reasonably well if Labour MPs hadn't supported someone they, er, don't support.
Re Incitatus, have we finished making jokes? I'm getting horse with laughter...
'1' Kendall
'2' Corbyn
pass Harriet's test ?
Sounds like a decent gift for a young lad.
Genius
Are they checking it twice?
Edit: careful with the blockquote tags. You seem to have deleted all the opening tags, but kept all the closing ones. Makes the post look a right mess when replied to!
North Korea's vice premier appears to have been executed:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33882799
Kim Jong-Il should've spent more time teaching his son how to be a dictator.
I'm sure Prezza would come back..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11796735/Jeremy-Corbyns-shadow-cabinet-who-could-serve.html
Edited extra bit: Mr. 565, I do apologise for impugning the intellectual capabilities of Ed Miliband.
Is there any chance the Chinese could do us a favour and have him quietly locked up in a lunatic asylum where he belongs? Unless Jowell would like him as a male model.
That's just what they need. Civil war (or uncivil as the case may be)
Liz to draft frownily on her Mac
Andy to add refs to 'our Mams'
Yvette to tone down so it says nothing
These people could've been running Govt depts, on May 8th. Frankly they don't look capable of running a bath right now, which we should all be concerned about because Govt's need decent oppositions or they tend to go off doing daft things.
And that's been it. Sure she's been picked on - but her campaign has been almost invisible - even Andy has managed more media stunts [using his parents and children unfortunately].
If I'd never seen her that first time with Andrew Neil, I'd have little idea who she was or why she was standing.
Mr. P, I'm sure he's as worried as we were when the Anglo-Zanzibar War began.
Corbyn is the one that has the most support amongst Labour supporters and therefore he should be the one to win the election. That's how democracy should work.
The fact that he's completely bonkers is neither here nor there.
Corbyn on 70% in London, private polling shows.
Liz to draft it frownily on her Mac while she paces up and down at night...
Andy to write it in the company of his mom and dad who continually pat him on the shoulder...
Yvette brooding and contemplating how to tell us that it's all part and parcel of a patriarchist system designed to keep out the female leader everyone is secretly yearning for.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/11/jeremy-corbyn-close-deficit-poor-labour-economy
@SamCoatesTimes: Some campaigns now want to release the letter. Others do not. Is Harriet still on holiday?
You're welcome...
As an aside, how much must this palaver be costing them? Surely it is costing them in excess of £3 to phone up each new supporter? Are they trying to bankrupt themselves before their donors do it for them?
Another month to go before the winner is announced – will there be a party to lead – or two?
(R)evolutionary spirit. Jezza, in all of his forms; Jezza for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And Jezza, you mark my words, will not only save the Labour Party, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the UK. Thank you very much.
The leaks/allegations of leaks and campaigning or not by each side?
Car crash doesn't even begin to describe it.
I'm not convinced.
But I expect Liz to stick it out within Labour, so theoretical.
"Oooh Vicar, where's my trousers?"
"Hilarious - five stars!" The Sun
"I actually peed my pants!!" The Daily Mail
"*face-palm*" The Guardian
'Game over man, game over.....'
I think if the 3 ABCers are gong to express concerns about the process they should now call for the leadership election contest to be suspended and withdraw from the race. Harman to continue as Deputy Leader until an enquiry into the process has been carried out. Then a new race under new rules could be planned for later in the year.
Forrest Gump
Withdraw.
I would say a legal challenge seems contrary to that.
1.1 Corbyn
250.0 Kendall
500.0 Harman
Divide the rest evenly between Andy and Yvette ?
"Five members of the same family were arrested by counter terrorism officers in east London today.
Officers from the Met’s Counter Terrorism Command held a husband and wife and their three teenage daughters, aged 16, 17 and 19, at their home address in an early morning operation.
All five were arrested on suspicion of possessing information “likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism.”
The man was also arrested on suspicion of possessing false identity documents.
Police were forced to act amid fears that some or all members of the family were planning to flee to Syria to join the terror group Islamic State."
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/five-members-of-the-same-family-arrested-in-east-london-in-counter-terror-probe-a2487341.html
"No, really, Jeremy Corbyn is going to win the leadership election
Forget worries about the polls, forget Operation:Icepick, forget everything. Jeremy Corbyn has won the Labour leadership election."
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/08/no-really-jeremy-corbyn-going-win-leadership-election
Did we have a PB 2015 competition for things such as Labour's low/high polling with ICM?
If we did this Corbyn event could blow the forecast out of the water.
He'll be thinking about the big issues of state. Such as, why do these Americans not pronounce the first 'r' in library?
Plotting against Gordon = Never seen