Corbyn could start to take a more pragmatic view once he has the responsibility of being party leader. Unlikely perhaps but possible,
That is stodge's view.
But his supporters would go up the wall...
Precisely. He can't be both pragmatic and consistent with his 'authentic' image. If he's moderate, he'll be accused of betrayal by his supporters. There is no way out of this.
95% of PB'ers underestimated corbyn's share, just 5% overestimated.
Good to bear in mind for future prognostications as to Mr Corbyn's electoral prospects
We may be out of touch with the selectorate in the Labour party but that is all it is. Guilty of believing that there were more sane people inside Labour than has proven to be the case.
Corbyn will be a goner once Labour are destroyed in the May elections next year.
The loss of the mayoral election, or alternatively the loss of the Tooting by-election will also be big pressure points. But as has been observed with this kind of mandate from the party, he's going to be difficult to shift.
By the time of May I suspect those who voted for him will have come to their senses - meaning that there is less goodwill towards him, so he'll be easier to shift. They also need to find a candidate to rally around.
"Global Inequality" - does he not realise that the minimum wage in the UK puts you in the global top 1%? Maybe he wants British people to be poorer so Africans and Asians can be wealthier..?
Jeremy Corbyn is, possibly, even worse than I expected.
And that is when he is happy about his victory, imagine him on a bad day when he's on the back foot and under some real scrutiny. The guy's one slip of the tongue away from full-on moonbat ranting.
Good speech, I didn't expect him to turn the volume up on his voice.
Indeed, he's been keeping that under wraps this campaign in case the 'angry lefty' card put people off - after all, one thing everyone has said is how polite he has been, and that is a positive, but it's harder to sell that when you are also being very loud.
He speaks authentically I have no doubt, but he and his team have been managing his image just like any other politician
Corbyn wins and a crane collapses into the Grand Mosque in Mecca killing over 100 people, and a gas cylinder explosion at a restaurant in India killing over 80 people..
That is not really the point Malcolm. The first resignation has happened within minutes of the result. It is not exactly a good omen. The interesting thing will be to see how long it is before the next resignation (if any).
How many rats will openly desert the sinking ship?
Be plenty of humble pies being cooked at present as the troughers try to repair the damage and try to curry favour with JC. Hopefully he clears out the dross, but a herculean task.
Ooo. Well on the Election Game I had Corbyn winning on the first round with 59.26%. I did get Burnham and Cooper the wrong way round but had 3.92% for Kendall so I reckon I have come pretty close over all.
Corbyn will be a goner once Labour are destroyed in the May elections next year.
The loss of the mayoral election, or alternatively the loss of the Tooting by-election will also be big pressure points. But as has been observed with this kind of mandate from the party, he's going to be difficult to shift.
By the time of May I suspect those who voted for him will have come to their senses - meaning that there is less goodwill towards him, so he'll be easier to shift. They also need to find a candidate to rally around.
I think the newer members have, but the more long term members and activists have ended up voting for him partly because the other candidates are so rubbish. I mean look at Burnham's total - 19% and he was supposed to win this contest!
Oh and I have to say this confirms what so many people have said on here in the past. Whether you like or dislike Cameron no one can deny he is one of the luckiest PMs in modern political history.
His attack on freedom of the press is so authoritarian it scares me to death.
I missed that bit, what did he say?
He basically ranted on about how bad some journalists and the media are. Pandering to the murdoch hating labour supporters - as far as I'm concerned if you don't like it don't read it. We don't need state intervention.
Corbyn will be a goner once Labour are destroyed in the May elections next year.
The loss of the mayoral election, or alternatively the loss of the Tooting by-election will also be big pressure points. But as has been observed with this kind of mandate from the party, he's going to be difficult to shift.
By the time of May I suspect those who voted for him will have come to their senses - meaning that there is less goodwill towards him, so he'll be easier to shift. They also need to find a candidate to rally around.
I think the newer members have, but the more long term members and activists have ended up voting for him partly because the other candidates are so rubbish. I mean look at Burnham's total - 19% and he was supposed to win this contest!
So is Kendal's 4.5%. The Blairite wing of Labour is dead.
Good speech, I didn't expect him to turn the volume up on his voice.
Indeed, he's been keeping that under wraps this campaign in case the 'angry lefty' card put people off - after all, one thing everyone has said is how polite he has been, and that is a positive, but it's harder to sell that when you are also being very loud.
He speaks authentically I have no doubt, but he and his team have been managing his image just like any other politician
Certainly sounded head and shoulders above any labour speaker for many many years.
Now for the good bit or even better bit The Shadow Cabinet..the ones who will have to support and defend the loony demands of the Leader...who can sunbathe while this great show is on tv..
I hope he proves all you were wishing for. What will be the first real test of his mettle do you think? We need to see if he can handle the pressure, the struggles of leadership.
Just 17% for Cooper, probably the best candidate on offer.
Morley and Outwood looks really significant now too. A real bona fide Portillo moment.
Balls would have been a better candidate than his wife. He must be wondering how Labour screwed up when he needed support. Then again trying to unseat Nick Clegg in Sheffield was quite a shrewd move, not.
Oh and I have to say this confirms what so many people have said on here in the past. Whether you like or dislike Cameron no one can deny he is one of the luckiest PMs in modern political history.
I think it was NFL coach Mike Ditka who said "good teams have skill; bad teams always say they don't have luck".
Do you think the kippers will be doing handsprings too, Sean? especially in the North?
I know the joke in Manchester is that the IRA bombed the place and caused a billion pounds of improvements, but that really doesn't mean that Mancunians support the terrorists!
Birmingham and Warrington also have long memories of Jeremy's "Friends" and what they did to their cities.
Jeremy Corbyn is, possibly, even worse than I expected.
And that is when he is happy about his victory, imagine him on a bad day when he's on the back foot and under some real scrutiny. The guy's one slip of the tongue away from full-on moonbat ranting.
That is not really the point Malcolm. The first resignation has happened within minutes of the result. It is not exactly a good omen. The interesting thing will be to see how long it is before the next resignation (if any).
How many rats will openly desert the sinking ship?
Beverly , however the point is they need the dross to resign or be booted out. labour leadership team is pitiful and anybody from anywhere can only improve their chances. They really are talentless and only impact will be to save him time sacking him. Hard to believe that the nobody was shadow health and yet I have never been heard of him, that just about sums them up.
Corbyn's future depends on his poll rating and performance in elections not his mandate in this ballot even winning 60% of Tory members backing him did not save IDS due to his poor poll ratings with the Brent East by election where the Tories came third finishing him off
Some pundits saying Cameron will find Corbyn 'trickier' than other labour contenders across the dispatch box.
And people PAY these idiots....??
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NPXMP Attaboy..dumb as ever..you do realise that in Corbyns world you and your best good buddy Roger are the enemy..Shades of The French Revolution here..
Incidentally, cheers to Mr. F for the Shah Muhammed reference. Just read up on that at Wikipedia. It turns out that executing messengers sent by Genghis Khan to open trade negotiations wasn't terribly clever.
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They've been dying to have someone like him in a major Party. He's annexed the SWP, assorted Trots, hard left Greenies et al.
And the starry-eyed youngsters who don't know any better.
Let the show trials begin.
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Heartiest congratulations to our friend @jeremycorbyn on his stunning election as the new Leader of the Labour Party. pic.twitter.com/rbmFqXhgZt
He speaks authentically I have no doubt, but he and his team have been managing his image just like any other politician
That surely is karma on 911.
How many rats will openly desert the sinking ship?
Well done Jeremy Corbyn.
Endorsements like this won't sway voters.
Burnham 19.04
Cooper 17.02
Corbyn 59.48
Kendall 4.46
Based on...
http://www.labour.org.uk/blog/entry/results-of-the-labour-leadership-and-deputy-leadership-election
Corbyn hates having to defend his policies, because he's never had to.
He does now.
Broke even across the two contests as I managed to miss getting on JC until it was too late.
Do you think the kippers will be doing handsprings too, Sean? especially in the North?
@MSmithsonPB Hi Mike - remind me how many @LibDems MPs are female or from ethnic minorities?
He's got my vote.
Birmingham and Warrington also have long memories of Jeremy's "Friends" and what they did to their cities.
And people PAY these idiots....??
Though we will never know what their last poll results were.
Hard to believe that the nobody was shadow health and yet I have never been heard of him, that just about sums them up.
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I just did.
When are the other results to be announced?
And says...nothing much.
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Ed Miliband speaks! "I'll be offering Jeremy Corbyn my support"