I can't help thinking it's time to wind up the James Bond franchise.
It's like getting The Return of Frodo, or Mockingjay's Daughter.
Sadly, I'm starting to agree with that - the producers seem to really struggle to produce a decent screenplay without reference to Fleming's original material, and instead keep recasting tributes to past glories laced with self-parody.
Casino Royale was excellent (Fleming) but Skyfall ridiculously overhyped. I enjoyed Spectre but they risked Sherlock/Spooks comparisons by coming back to London (again) for the last 20 minutes. This is MI6 not MI5.
Oh, and TGOF and I should be kept apart if he's going to talk that way about Dalton.
I can't help thinking it's time to wind up the James Bond franchise.
It's like getting The Return of Frodo, or Mockingjay's Daughter.
Sadly, I'm starting to agree with that - the producers seem to really struggle to produce a decent screenplay without reference to Fleming's original material, and instead keep recasting tributes to past glories laced with self-parody.
Casino Royale was excellent (Fleming) but Skyfall ridiculously overhyped. I enjoyed Spectre but they risked Sherlock/Spooks comparisons by coming back to London (again) for the last 20 minutes. This is MI6 not MI5.
Oh, and TGOF and I should be kept apart if he's going to talk that way about Dalton.
Given its box office takings the Broccolis and MGM would be mad to cancel it. Critical approval is nice but it is box office profits which determine a film franchises future
Instead of faffing about rebooting Star Trek, Farscape, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica...
...just make the other 5 seasons of Firefly
I've deliberately not started Firefly because I don't want the disappointment.
The film Serenity wraps things up to a greater extent and provides a satisfying conclusion. I'd say you can watch the series and movie without feeling frustrated.
I was rather gobsmacked when I realised that the villainess in Season two of Arrow (nice show veering toward silliness) was Summer Glau. One of those "oh, yeah, NOW I see it moments".
The odds on UKIP for Oldham seem pretty short considering they polled the same as the Tories. I doubt Labour will get caught with their pants down like in Heywood and Middleton.
I said the past 25 years. I would argue the end of the Cold War was the turning point; since then, voters both here and in the US have put less of a premium on "toughness" and more on likeability.
Well, by all means ignore the example of one of the most successful UK politicians in modern times, if it suits you. The sample is already so small that I wouldn't recommend that approach, though.
I wasn't ignoring it, as such; if we were still in the 1970s or 1980s, I might agree with you that Osborne's dislikeability was not a bar to his prospects as a successful leader.
But we're not.
The most hated leader of a political party on here is the most popular in the polls... You are never going to get far arguing about who is liked and who isn't
There is the fact that Tories are less liked than Labour though, which kind of nauses your argument
I said the past 25 years. I would argue the end of the Cold War was the turning point; since then, voters both here and in the US have put less of a premium on "toughness" and more on likeability.
Well, by all means ignore the example of one of the most successful UK politicians in modern times, if it suits you. The sample is already so small that I wouldn't recommend that approach, though.
I wasn't ignoring it, as such; if we were still in the 1970s or 1980s, I might agree with you that Osborne's dislikeability was not a bar to his prospects as a successful leader.
But we're not.
The most hated leader of a political party on here is the most popular in the polls... You are never going to get far arguing about who is liked and who isn't
There is the fact that Tories are less liked than Labour though, which kind of nauses your argument
Aren't there two Alien franchise films coming, with Scott doing Prometheus 2 (Prom Harder?), and Blomkamp[sp] doing something like Aliens 2?
I immediately went and checked as I hadn;t heard of Blomkamp joining the franchise and was praying they were finally doing Space Marines. Sadly no it seems.
It is quite galling that the Alien franchise is now split into three distinct propertys (Original, Prometheus and AvP - four if you include Predator seperately) but still hasn't done Space Marines.
The odds on UKIP for Oldham seem pretty short considering they polled the same as the Tories. I doubt Labour will get caught with their pants down like in Heywood and Middleton.
Presumably by-elections are the very time that the army of hundreds of young Corbynite activists will have the most impact.
Mr Dancer, The episodes which introduced Davros were possibly the best Dr Who, and had the wonderful and sadly no longer with us Elisabeth Sladen. Plus Lt Gruber!!! Following that however even (especially) right into the modern era, the daleks have been grossly overdone. I think the Pertwee one where there was the alternate universe and drilling into the earth's crust was fun. What Who was about. Not all this endless emoting and total mystery over just what is happening. Throw in a bit of moral dilemma and Bingo.
The PB Tories must have loved the latest episode of Doctor Who.
Mr Dancer, The episodes which introduced Davros were possibly the best Dr Who, and had the wonderful and sadly no longer with us Elisabeth Sladen. Plus Lt Gruber!!! Following that however even (especially) right into the modern era, the daleks have been grossly overdone. I think the Pertwee one where there was the alternate universe and drilling into the earth's crust was fun. What Who was about. Not all this endless emoting and total mystery over just what is happening. Throw in a bit of moral dilemma and Bingo.
Aren't there two Alien franchise films coming, with Scott doing Prometheus 2 (Prom Harder?), and Blomkamp[sp] doing something like Aliens 2?
I immediately went and checked as I hadn;t heard of Blomkamp joining the franchise and was praying they were finally doing Space Marines. Sadly no it seems.
It is quite galling that the Alien franchise is now split into three distinct propertys (Original, Prometheus and AvP - four if you include Predator seperately) but still hasn't done Space Marines.
I said the past 25 years. I would argue the end of the Cold War was the turning point; since then, voters both here and in the US have put less of a premium on "toughness" and more on likeability.
Well, by all means ignore the example of one of the most successful UK politicians in modern times, if it suits you. The sample is already so small that I wouldn't recommend that approach, though.
I wasn't ignoring it, as such; if we were still in the 1970s or 1980s, I might agree with you that Osborne's dislikeability was not a bar to his prospects as a successful leader.
But we're not.
The most hated leader of a political party on here is the most popular in the polls... You are never going to get far arguing about who is liked and who isn't
There is the fact that Tories are less liked than Labour though, which kind of nauses your argument
Not according to the ballots made in May.
That question wasn't asked... I know you are being petty on purpose but nevertheless, thought Id correct
I can't help thinking it's time to wind up the James Bond franchise.
It's like getting The Return of Frodo, or Mockingjay's Daughter.
Sadly, I'm starting to agree with that - the producers seem to really struggle to produce a decent screenplay without reference to Fleming's original material, and instead keep recasting tributes to past glories laced with self-parody.
Casino Royale was excellent (Fleming) but Skyfall ridiculously overhyped. I enjoyed Spectre but they risked Sherlock/Spooks comparisons by coming back to London (again) for the last 20 minutes. This is MI6 not MI5.
Oh, and TGOF and I should be kept apart if he's going to talk that way about Dalton.
Given its box office takings the Broccolis and MGM would be mad to cancel it. Critical approval is nice but it is box office profits which determine a film franchises future
Oh, I totally understand it's all about the money. That doesn't mean I agree they are doing the right thing by the character and legacy.
Instead of faffing about rebooting Star Trek, Farscape, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica...
...just make the other 5 seasons of Firefly
I've deliberately not started Firefly because I don't want the disappointment.
The film Serenity wraps things up to a greater extent and provides a satisfying conclusion. I'd say you can watch the series and movie without feeling frustrated.
I was rather gobsmacked when I realised that the villainess in Season two of Arrow (nice show veering toward silliness) was Summer Glau. One of those "oh, yeah, NOW I see it moments".
Speaking of Arrow, this Wednesday sees a possible first - a post cancellation, cross-network Crossover episode.
The odds on UKIP for Oldham seem pretty short considering they polled the same as the Tories. I doubt Labour will get caught with their pants down like in Heywood and Middleton.
Presumably by-elections are the very time that the army of hundreds of young Corbynite activists will have the most impact.
Yeah those green haired Cisgender or non Cisgender students will go down a storm in Oldham
Mr Dancer, The episodes which introduced Davros were possibly the best Dr Who, and had the wonderful and sadly no longer with us Elisabeth Sladen. Plus Lt Gruber!!! Following that however even (especially) right into the modern era, the daleks have been grossly overdone. I think the Pertwee one where there was the alternate universe and drilling into the earth's crust was fun. What Who was about. Not all this endless emoting and total mystery over just what is happening. Throw in a bit of moral dilemma and Bingo.
The PB Tories must have loved the latest episode of Doctor Who.
Was it about mad insane nationalists living on another planet?
I said the past 25 years. I would argue the end of the Cold War was the turning point; since then, voters both here and in the US have put less of a premium on "toughness" and more on likeability.
Well, by all means ignore the example of one of the most successful UK politicians in modern times, if it suits you. The sample is already so small that I wouldn't recommend that approach, though.
I wasn't ignoring it, as such; if we were still in the 1970s or 1980s, I might agree with you that Osborne's dislikeability was not a bar to his prospects as a successful leader.
But we're not.
The most hated leader of a political party on here is the most popular in the polls... You are never going to get far arguing about who is liked and who isn't
There is the fact that Tories are less liked than Labour though, which kind of nauses your argument
Not according to the ballots made in May.
That question wasn't asked... I know you are being petty on purpose but nevertheless, thought Id correct
I'm being tongue-in-cheek yes in all my posts currently.
However its funny that the notion the Tories as a party are unpopular has no grounding other than secondary questions on opinion polls - which were of course ruled unreliable once more in May. So there is an element of truth to my point ...
Instead of faffing about rebooting Star Trek, Farscape, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica...
...just make the other 5 seasons of Firefly
I've deliberately not started Firefly because I don't want the disappointment.
The film Serenity wraps things up to a greater extent and provides a satisfying conclusion. I'd say you can watch the series and movie without feeling frustrated.
I was rather gobsmacked when I realised that the villainess in Season two of Arrow (nice show veering toward silliness) was Summer Glau. One of those "oh, yeah, NOW I see it moments".
Speaking of Arrow, this Wednesday sees a possible first - a post cancellation, cross-network Crossover episode.
Has Arrow been cancelled? Or The Flash?
I'm behind on both so don't want to Google as it will probably show spoilers.
Aren't there two Alien franchise films coming, with Scott doing Prometheus 2 (Prom Harder?), and Blomkamp[sp] doing something like Aliens 2?
I immediately went and checked as I hadn;t heard of Blomkamp joining the franchise and was praying they were finally doing Space Marines. Sadly no it seems.
It is quite galling that the Alien franchise is now split into three distinct propertys (Original, Prometheus and AvP - four if you include Predator seperately) but still hasn't done Space Marines.
Ugh, do Space Marines already.
Warhammer 40k?
Well, yes, it' hardly a new concept and perhaps a lot of the expectation it once held has now gone given we;ve had S.A.A.B., Starship Troopers, BSG do-over, etc, etc.
I guess I might finally gave up on it if someone decided it was Space Marines or the Gap Cycle (and they had a credible way to make it and get around the innate problems of filming the first book as the start of a franchise).
Instead of faffing about rebooting Star Trek, Farscape, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica...
...just make the other 5 seasons of Firefly
I've deliberately not started Firefly because I don't want the disappointment.
The film Serenity wraps things up to a greater extent and provides a satisfying conclusion. I'd say you can watch the series and movie without feeling frustrated.
I was rather gobsmacked when I realised that the villainess in Season two of Arrow (nice show veering toward silliness) was Summer Glau. One of those "oh, yeah, NOW I see it moments".
Speaking of Arrow, this Wednesday sees a possible first - a post cancellation, cross-network Crossover episode.
Instead of faffing about rebooting Star Trek, Farscape, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica...
...just make the other 5 seasons of Firefly
I've deliberately not started Firefly because I don't want the disappointment.
The film Serenity wraps things up to a greater extent and provides a satisfying conclusion. I'd say you can watch the series and movie without feeling frustrated.
I was rather gobsmacked when I realised that the villainess in Season two of Arrow (nice show veering toward silliness) was Summer Glau. One of those "oh, yeah, NOW I see it moments".
Speaking of Arrow, this Wednesday sees a possible first - a post cancellation, cross-network Crossover episode.
Has Arrow been cancelled? Or The Flash?
I'm behind on both so don't want to Google as it will probably show spoilers.
Still going. Another spin off with characters from both is coming in the new year I believe.
I said the past 25 years. I would argue the end of the Cold War was the turning point; since then, voters both here and in the US have put less of a premium on "toughness" and more on likeability.
Well, by all means ignore the example of one of the most successful UK politicians in modern times, if it suits you. The sample is already so small that I wouldn't recommend that approach, though.
I wasn't ignoring it, as such; if we were still in the 1970s or 1980s, I might agree with you that Osborne's dislikeability was not a bar to his prospects as a successful leader.
But we're not.
Am I unusual in not finding Osborne dislikeable? If anything I would prefer to have a chat over a drink with him to doing the same with Cameron.
Not that that says anything about his suitability or otherwise for being PM. Mind you, I hate this focus on whether they are like ordinary people. If they were like ordinary people they wouldn't be in politics, let alone ambitious enough to be PM. I don't want some ordinary person being PM - I'd vote Corbyn if being a gullible idiot who looks like any other elderly scruffbag you see on the bus was the only criterion. I want someone ruthless and feline to do the tough stuff that needs doing not someone endlessly worrying about being liked.
And there is plenty of tough stuff that needs doing now. Even if this isn't quite the 1970's or 1980's (yet), there are quite enough parallels: turmoil in the Middle East, Russia being difficult/aggressive, terrorism risks, economic tough choices, decisions about Europe, a relatively weak America, a Labour party rediscovering its Marxist soul, etc etc......
I'll do my best to make a decision on EU membership with my head rather than heart. But nothing pushes me more instinctively towards Leave than people like antifrank and Richard_Nabavi constantly saying the other side of the debate lack sentience or howl at the moon. The way the pro-membership side loves to call their opponents imbecilic, when often the sceptics have been right, just reminds me how elitist and groupthink-focused the EU and its supporters are. An institution that will not treat criticisms with respect is one that is doomed to fail.
Conversely, exposure to the batshit mental conspiracy theories and wild-eyed accusations of lying that the Leave campaign has started with pushes me instinctively towards Remain. I don't want to throw in my lot with nutters.
Then I encounter the arrogance, the remoteness, the bureaucratic Eurocracy and their take-it-or-leave-it attitude and I'm equally repelled by that.
I'll be doing the opposite of AndyJS. Rather than weighing the evidence, I'll be following my heart. It will probably be on the day itself that I'll make my decision. Right now, both campaigns are being run spectacularly badly.
Just to confirm:
1. Norway pays the EU just as much as the UK per head? 2. Norway accepts three quarters of EU rules? 3. Norway has no influence and is a fax democracy?
I have a day job so I have no interest in wasting endless time analysing Norwegian laws to determine their provenance, nor in poring over Norway's accounts. It's enough to know that Norway pays a lot of money to the EU and has to accept a lot of EU rules. It's all entirely irrelevant to my decision anyway. If it blows your skirt up, keep going. I'm sure you'll make the 100% committed Leavers 101% committed. I doubt, however, whether you'll change a single uncommitted vote.
Given that the Eurosceptic headbangers have spent years telling us that Britain has no influence in the EU, it's a bit rich for them to complain when the same simplification is used against them in a different context.
A Norwegian Prime Minister described Norway as a fax democracy. It is entirely reasonable for the Remain camp to pick up on this phrase. Whether you agree with it is a matter for debate.
But again, I don't regard Norway's circumstances as very relevant to Britain's.
Needless to say you are absolutely wrong about this and I provided the documentary evidence for it yesterday. You are just repeating DavidL's idiotic and unfounded claims. At the moment all the Batshit conspiracy theories and wild eyed accusations (to use your own words) are coming from the remain supporters.
Also agree entirely on endless emoting being tiresome (you kill cybermen with gold, not bloody hugs).
No doubt in 1975 there were people thinking back to the 1960s and saying "You kill Cybermen with nail varnish remover. Not bloody gold." Times change...
I'm currently working my way through watching (or listening to - in the case of the missing episodes) all 26 years of classic Doctor Who in order. I'm up to The Tenth Planet and getting ready to say goodbye to my favourite Doctor.
That seems really unnecessary, if genuine. I've seen the photo of Cameron hundreds of times, it surely cannot be hard to find an old photo or still shot of him with a poppy, or just dig out a smart phone and snap a picture of him.
Instead of faffing about rebooting Star Trek, Farscape, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica...
...just make the other 5 seasons of Firefly
I've deliberately not started Firefly because I don't want the disappointment.
The film Serenity wraps things up to a greater extent and provides a satisfying conclusion. I'd say you can watch the series and movie without feeling frustrated.
I was rather gobsmacked when I realised that the villainess in Season two of Arrow (nice show veering toward silliness) was Summer Glau. One of those "oh, yeah, NOW I see it moments".
Speaking of Arrow, this Wednesday sees a possible first - a post cancellation, cross-network Crossover episode.
Has Arrow been cancelled? Or The Flash?
I'm behind on both so don't want to Google as it will probably show spoilers.
No, they are bringing in another DC character (with the same actor) from a cancelled show on NBC.
Instead of faffing about rebooting Star Trek, Farscape, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica...
...just make the other 5 seasons of Firefly
I've deliberately not started Firefly because I don't want the disappointment.
The film Serenity wraps things up to a greater extent and provides a satisfying conclusion. I'd say you can watch the series and movie without feeling frustrated.
I was rather gobsmacked when I realised that the villainess in Season two of Arrow (nice show veering toward silliness) was Summer Glau. One of those "oh, yeah, NOW I see it moments".
Speaking of Arrow, this Wednesday sees a possible first - a post cancellation, cross-network Crossover episode.
Has Arrow been cancelled? Or The Flash?
I'm behind on both so don't want to Google as it will probably show spoilers.
No, they are bringing in another DC character (with the same actor) from a cancelled show on NBC.
Oh jeez, not Constantine. Mysticism I can deal with, but demons and magic on Arrow? As I said, veering into silliness.
I cannot imagine a more fatuous waste of legislative time short of passing a bill saying that in future the sun will rise in the West.
I'll believe it when I see it. There's been an endless cycle of "Number 10 are going to ban encryption" followed swiftly by "Number 10 says they're not going to" for many years now.
Instead of faffing about rebooting Star Trek, Farscape, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica...
...just make the other 5 seasons of Firefly
I've deliberately not started Firefly because I don't want the disappointment.
The film Serenity wraps things up to a greater extent and provides a satisfying conclusion. I'd say you can watch the series and movie without feeling frustrated.
I was rather gobsmacked when I realised that the villainess in Season two of Arrow (nice show veering toward silliness) was Summer Glau. One of those "oh, yeah, NOW I see it moments".
Speaking of Arrow, this Wednesday sees a possible first - a post cancellation, cross-network Crossover episode.
Has Arrow been cancelled? Or The Flash?
I'm behind on both so don't want to Google as it will probably show spoilers.
No, they are bringing in another DC character (with the same actor) from a cancelled show on NBC.
Oh jeez, not Constantine. Mysticism I can deal with, but demons and magic on Arrow? As I said, veering into silliness.
Demons and Magic exist in DC canon don't they? In some variants more than others but its not beyond possibility.
Instead of faffing about rebooting Star Trek, Farscape, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica...
...just make the other 5 seasons of Firefly
I've deliberately not started Firefly because I don't want the disappointment.
The film Serenity wraps things up to a greater extent and provides a satisfying conclusion. I'd say you can watch the series and movie without feeling frustrated.
I was rather gobsmacked when I realised that the villainess in Season two of Arrow (nice show veering toward silliness) was Summer Glau. One of those "oh, yeah, NOW I see it moments".
Speaking of Arrow, this Wednesday sees a possible first - a post cancellation, cross-network Crossover episode.
Has Arrow been cancelled? Or The Flash?
I'm behind on both so don't want to Google as it will probably show spoilers.
No, they are bringing in another DC character (with the same actor) from a cancelled show on NBC.
Oh jeez, not Constantine. Mysticism I can deal with, but demons and magic on Arrow? As I said, veering into silliness.
I don't expect any demons. Magic and mysticism are already established in the Flarrowverse so as long as no demons appear, all is fine. It's also a one-off and he isn't joining the show.
The whole DC universe is mired in so many absolutely fundamental Rights Issues that I think a bit of magic is the least of its problems, for m the Flarrowverse is getting things more or less right (while DC continues to utterly screw up).
The odds on UKIP for Oldham seem pretty short considering they polled the same as the Tories. I doubt Labour will get caught with their pants down like in Heywood and Middleton.
Presumably by-elections are the very time that the army of hundreds of young Corbynite activists will have the most impact.
Yeah those green haired Cisgender or non Cisgender students will go down a storm in Oldham
Sometimes you get the impression from PB that British society is split simply between one per cent of people who drink lattes and would have been called "queer" in a less enlightened age, and ninety nine per cent normal people who like the Monarchy and George Osborne, but society is not really as simple as that.
The voting intentions polling proved a lot of rubbish in 2010-15. However, the "best PM" polling was a highly accurate predictor of the result: as Lord Ashcroft reminds us today in his excellent analysis of the election, Cameron ALWAYS led Miliband on the "best PM" question, even during the Tories' 2012 Omni-Doldrums.
As such, I would be a bit worried by Osborne only being tyed with Corbyn on "best PM" polling so far.
That's not comparing like with like. Cameron had been leader for nearly five years, and was already PM at the time. Even if it were comparing like with like, I'd trust my judgement rather than the polls on this at this very early stage. Feel free to bet on the other side if you disagree!
But Boris is also not PM, yet he nevertheless has a big lead over Corbyn on "best PM" polling.
There is clearly something about Osborne that people don't like -- as I've said before, one of Cameron's advantages is that, although people think he is posh, they still think he's a nice enough family man who you could have a drink with and chat to, whereas Osborne comes across as much more weird and aloof. If people don't relate to or trust a politician personally, they are much more likely to believe the Opposition's scare stories about them.
Osborne is not as popular as Brown was at this stage of their near identical careers.
Yes but Brown ended boom and bust, so it's hardly surprising he was popular.
You don't have to be in the Leave column to believe we should have an honest debate, and to see the Remain side has been riddled with false claims.
Both sides make false, or debatable, or highly-simplified claims. The most egregious of those is the claim by many on the Leave side that we can have everything we want with zero downside, i.e. that there are no trade-offs at all between (say) free movement of labour and access to the Single Market. They also claim utterly absurd things on the detail, such as the claim that Norway has as much say in EU regulations as full members of the EU have.
Your stunning and willful ignorance of the workings of the EEA and EU make your utterly unfit to even comment on what Eurosceptics might say. you deserve to be treated with nothing but derision.
Instead of faffing about rebooting Star Trek, Farscape, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica...
...just make the other 5 seasons of Firefly
I've deliberately not started Firefly because I don't want the disappointment.
The film Serenity wraps things up to a greater extent and provides a satisfying conclusion. I'd say you can watch the series and movie without feeling frustrated.
I was rather gobsmacked when I realised that the villainess in Season two of Arrow (nice show veering toward silliness) was Summer Glau. One of those "oh, yeah, NOW I see it moments".
Mrs J has a great woman-crush on Summer Glau, who was also a Terminator in the eponymous series. She was once reading an article on a new battery technology that promised longer-life batteries, turned to me, and said: "Yummm, Summer Glau with long-life batteries."
The odds on UKIP for Oldham seem pretty short considering they polled the same as the Tories. I doubt Labour will get caught with their pants down like in Heywood and Middleton.
Presumably by-elections are the very time that the army of hundreds of young Corbynite activists will have the most impact.
Yeah those green haired Cisgender or non Cisgender students will go down a storm in Oldham
Sometimes you get the impression from PB that British society is split simply between one per cent of people who drink lattes and would have been called "queer" in a less enlightened age, and ninety nine per cent normal people who like the Monarchy and George Osborne, but society is not really as simple as that.
As someone who drinks lattes and likes George Osborne, is a republican and straight where does that leave me?
The odds on UKIP for Oldham seem pretty short considering they polled the same as the Tories. I doubt Labour will get caught with their pants down like in Heywood and Middleton.
Stephen Bush in the New Statesman reported recently that Labour insiders think they've lost further ground to UKIP since Heywood & Middleton in that type of constituency.
Mr. B, not seen The Prisoner, but Pertwee did have Bessie, the yellow car.
I used to have a ton of Old Who books, often bought from second hand shops when on holiday as a child, so some of the repeated shows I've read but not seen before.
I do like the Brigadier. Top chap.
Indeed. A great characterisation. If only '5 rounds rapid' were the solutions to all our problems.
You don't have to be in the Leave column to believe we should have an honest debate, and to see the Remain side has been riddled with false claims.
Both sides make false, or debatable, or highly-simplified claims. The most egregious of those is the claim by many on the Leave side that we can have everything we want with zero downside, i.e. that there are no trade-offs at all between (say) free movement of labour and access to the Single Market. They also claim utterly absurd things on the detail, such as the claim that Norway has as much say in EU regulations as full members of the EU have.
Your stunning and willful ignorance of the workings of the EEA and EU make your utterly unfit to even comment on what Eurosceptics might say. you deserve to be treated with nothing but derision.
You don't have to be in the Leave column to believe we should have an honest debate, and to see the Remain side has been riddled with false claims.
Both sides make false, or debatable, or highly-simplified claims. The most egregious of those is the claim by many on the Leave side that we can have everything we want with zero downside, i.e. that there are no trade-offs at all between (say) free movement of labour and access to the Single Market. They also claim utterly absurd things on the detail, such as the claim that Norway has as much say in EU regulations as full members of the EU have.
Your stunning and willful ignorance of the workings of the EEA and EU make your utterly unfit to even comment on what Eurosceptics might say. you deserve to be treated with nothing but derision.
Instead of faffing about rebooting Star Trek, Farscape, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica...
...just make the other 5 seasons of Firefly
I've deliberately not started Firefly because I don't want the disappointment.
The film Serenity wraps things up to a greater extent and provides a satisfying conclusion. I'd say you can watch the series and movie without feeling frustrated.
I was rather gobsmacked when I realised that the villainess in Season two of Arrow (nice show veering toward silliness) was Summer Glau. One of those "oh, yeah, NOW I see it moments".
Speaking of Arrow, this Wednesday sees a possible first - a post cancellation, cross-network Crossover episode.
Has Arrow been cancelled? Or The Flash?
I'm behind on both so don't want to Google as it will probably show spoilers.
No, they are bringing in another DC character (with the same actor) from a cancelled show on NBC.
Oh jeez, not Constantine. Mysticism I can deal with, but demons and magic on Arrow? As I said, veering into silliness.
I know what you mean, but to me there is the 'fantastic' and then 'fantasy'. Arrow and Daredevil (and Batman/Gotham) are very much the former, more based in some kind of reality without recourse to true superpowers (aka magic). Maybe it's just me.
I can't help thinking it's time to wind up the James Bond franchise.
It's like getting The Return of Frodo, or Mockingjay's Daughter.
Sadly, I'm starting to agree with that - the producers seem to really struggle to produce a decent screenplay without reference to Fleming's original material, and instead keep recasting tributes to past glories laced with self-parody.
Casino Royale was excellent (Fleming) but Skyfall ridiculously overhyped. I enjoyed Spectre but they risked Sherlock/Spooks comparisons by coming back to London (again) for the last 20 minutes. This is MI6 not MI5.
Oh, and TGOF and I should be kept apart if he's going to talk that way about Dalton.
Given its box office takings the Broccolis and MGM would be mad to cancel it. Critical approval is nice but it is box office profits which determine a film franchises future
Oh, I totally understand it's all about the money. That doesn't mean I agree they are doing the right thing by the character and legacy.
The undecideds must be doing the criticism of LEAVE this year and criticism of REMAIN next
What's the point of your post, except to antagonise people who are undecided? Is that what you really want?
I'll criticise any group for stay or leave if I think they're doing things wrong; sadly, all the campaigns are pretty useless at the moment so it's fairly evens stevens.
Isam was using a shorthand 'undecided' based on his complaint earlier today that there are a number of commentators on here who claim to be undecided but clearly are not.
You don't have to be in the Leave column to believe we should have an honest debate, and to see the Remain side has been riddled with false claims.
Both sides make false, or debatable, or highly-simplified claims. The most egregious of those is the claim by many on the Leave side that we can have everything we want with zero downside, i.e. that there are no trade-offs at all between (say) free movement of labour and access to the Single Market. They also claim utterly absurd things on the detail, such as the claim that Norway has as much say in EU regulations as full members of the EU have.
Your stunning and willful ignorance of the workings of the EEA and EU make your utterly unfit to even comment on what Eurosceptics might say. you deserve to be treated with nothing but derision.
You don't have to be in the Leave column to believe we should have an honest debate, and to see the Remain side has been riddled with false claims.
Both sides make false, or debatable, or highly-simplified claims. The most egregious of those is the claim by many on the Leave side that we can have everything we want with zero downside, i.e. that there are no trade-offs at all between (say) free movement of labour and access to the Single Market. They also claim utterly absurd things on the detail, such as the claim that Norway has as much say in EU regulations as full members of the EU have.
Your stunning and willful ignorance of the workings of the EEA and EU make your utterly unfit to even comment on what Eurosceptics might say. you deserve to be treated with nothing but derision.
But his vote is worth as much as yours.
But we already know where that vote is going so why bother treating his disingenuous comments with anything other than derision.
The odds on UKIP for Oldham seem pretty short considering they polled the same as the Tories. I doubt Labour will get caught with their pants down like in Heywood and Middleton.
Presumably by-elections are the very time that the army of hundreds of young Corbynite activists will have the most impact.
Yeah those green haired Cisgender or non Cisgender students will go down a storm in Oldham
You don't have to be in the Leave column to believe we should have an honest debate, and to see the Remain side has been riddled with false claims.
Both sides make false, or debatable, or highly-simplified claims. The most egregious of those is the claim by many on the Leave side that we can have everything we want with zero downside, i.e. that there are no trade-offs at all between (say) free movement of labour and access to the Single Market. They also claim utterly absurd things on the detail, such as the claim that Norway has as much say in EU regulations as full members of the EU have.
Your stunning and willful ignorance of the workings of the EEA and EU make your utterly unfit to even comment on what Eurosceptics might say. you deserve to be treated with nothing but derision.
But his vote is worth as much as yours.
Norway's Minister for EU Affairs has said, 'when there are bigger political issues our shortcomings are more evident, because we are not at the table when decisions are made'
This is something Norway is happy with. It !might be the same with us. But for us, actually now being in the EU, it would be a clear step back and mean ... Well really it would mean not much difference to now.
I can't help thinking it's time to wind up the James Bond franchise.
It's like getting The Return of Frodo, or Mockingjay's Daughter.
Sadly, I'm starting to agree with that - the producers seem to really struggle to produce a decent screenplay without reference to Fleming's original material, and instead keep recasting tributes to past glories laced with self-parody.
Casino Royale was excellent (Fleming) but Skyfall ridiculously overhyped. I enjoyed Spectre but they risked Sherlock/Spooks comparisons by coming back to London (again) for the last 20 minutes. This is MI6 not MI5.
Oh, and TGOF and I should be kept apart if he's going to talk that way about Dalton.
Given its box office takings the Broccolis and MGM would be mad to cancel it. Critical approval is nice but it is box office profits which determine a film franchises future
Oh, I totally understand it's all about the money. That doesn't mean I agree they are doing the right thing by the character and legacy.
The odds on UKIP for Oldham seem pretty short considering they polled the same as the Tories. I doubt Labour will get caught with their pants down like in Heywood and Middleton.
Stephen Bush in the New Statesman reported recently that Labour insiders think they've lost further ground to UKIP since Heywood & Middleton in that type of constituency.
Instead of faffing about rebooting Star Trek, Farscape, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica...
...just make the other 5 seasons of Firefly
I've deliberately not started Firefly because I don't want the disappointment.
The film Serenity wraps things up to a greater extent and provides a satisfying conclusion. I'd say you can watch the series and movie without feeling frustrated.
Agree entirely. There is a real sense of sadness about the fact that the series was canned but Whedon did his very best with the film to leave everyone with a satisfying (if in places "Whedon you Bastard!!!") conclusion.
You don't have to be in the Leave column to believe we should have an honest debate, and to see the Remain side has been riddled with false claims.
Both sides make false, or debatable, or highly-simplified claims. The most egregious of those is the claim by many on the Leave side that we can have everything we want with zero downside, i.e. that there are no trade-offs at all between (say) free movement of labour and access to the Single Market. They also claim utterly absurd things on the detail, such as the claim that Norway has as much say in EU regulations as full members of the EU have.
Your stunning and willful ignorance of the workings of the EEA and EU make your utterly unfit to even comment on what Eurosceptics might say. you deserve to be treated with nothing but derision.
But his vote is worth as much as yours.
Norway's Minister for EU Affairs has said, 'when there are bigger political issues our shortcomings are more evident, because we are not at the table when decisions are made'
This is something Norway is happy with. It !might be the same with us. But for us, actually now being in the EU, it would be a clear step back and mean ... Well really it would mean not much difference to now.
And that is simply not true according to the EEA and EFTA. Again you are doing the equivalent of quoting Clarke as a neutral expert on the UK/EU relationship
The odds on UKIP for Oldham seem pretty short considering they polled the same as the Tories. I doubt Labour will get caught with their pants down like in Heywood and Middleton.
Presumably by-elections are the very time that the army of hundreds of young Corbynite activists will have the most impact.
Yeah those green haired Cisgender or non Cisgender students will go down a storm in Oldham
Sometimes you get the impression from PB that British society is split simply between one per cent of people who drink lattes and would have been called "queer" in a less enlightened age, and ninety nine per cent normal people who like the Monarchy and George Osborne, but society is not really as simple as that.
As someone who drinks lattes and likes George Osborne, is a republican and straight where does that leave me?
You don't have to be in the Leave column to believe we should have an honest debate, and to see the Remain side has been riddled with false claims.
Both sides make false, or debatable, or highly-simplified claims. The most egregious of those is the claim by many on the Leave side that we can have everything we want with zero downside, i.e. that there are no trade-offs at all between (say) free movement of labour and access to the Single Market. They also claim utterly absurd things on the detail, such as the claim that Norway has as much say in EU regulations as full members of the EU have.
Your stunning and willful ignorance of the workings of the EEA and EU make your utterly unfit to even comment on what Eurosceptics might say. you deserve to be treated with nothing but derision.
But his vote is worth as much as yours.
Norway's Minister for EU Affairs has said, 'when there are bigger political issues our shortcomings are more evident, because we are not at the table when decisions are made'
This is something Norway is happy with. It !might be the same with us. But for us, actually now being in the EU, it would be a clear step back and mean ... Well really it would mean not much difference to now.
The world has moved on. The top table is no longer the EU, it is the international bodies which Norway has a seat on.
The odds on UKIP for Oldham seem pretty short considering they polled the same as the Tories. I doubt Labour will get caught with their pants down like in Heywood and Middleton.
Presumably by-elections are the very time that the army of hundreds of young Corbynite activists will have the most impact.
Yeah those green haired Cisgender or non Cisgender students will go down a storm in Oldham
Sometimes you get the impression from PB that British society is split simply between one per cent of people who drink lattes and would have been called "queer" in a less enlightened age, and ninety nine per cent normal people who like the Monarchy and George Osborne, but society is not really as simple as that.
He makes a point though, and dont you believe Labour wont be making allowances for it. There are parts of northern cities where walking while being visibly gay would result, in you being told you are a sick pervert and you need to leave (if you are lucky), a severe beating is not an impossibility, or even unlikely.
Those canvassing teams will be sensitively made sure that some activists are kept away from certain areas.
You don't have to be in the Leave column to believe we should have an honest debate, and to see the Remain side has been riddled with false claims.
Both sides make false, or debatable, or highly-simplified claims. The most egregious of those is the claim by many on the Leave side that we can have everything we want with zero downside, i.e. that there are no trade-offs at all between (say) free movement of labour and access to the Single Market. They also claim utterly absurd things on the detail, such as the claim that Norway has as much say in EU regulations as full members of the EU have.
Your stunning and willful ignorance of the workings of the EEA and EU make your utterly unfit to even comment on what Eurosceptics might say. you deserve to be treated with nothing but derision.
But his vote is worth as much as yours.
Norway's Minister for EU Affairs has said, 'when there are bigger political issues our shortcomings are more evident, because we are not at the table when decisions are made'
This is something Norway is happy with. It !might be the same with us. But for us, actually now being in the EU, it would be a clear step back and mean ... Well really it would mean not much difference to now.
And that is simply not true according to the EEA and EFTA. Again you are doing the equivalent of quoting Clarke as a neutral expert on the UK/EU relationship
I am quoting the Norwegian Minister for EU Affairs (Helgessen) in an interview with Euractive. Norway are happy with this, they are happy to be part of the EU in everything except name. They can be part of technical committees but not political decisions. Currently they are faced with demands to double their contributions. They may fight it off they may not. In any event the demands will keep coming back. Like I say, this might suit us as well, but it offers very little that is meaningfully different to the public at large except that we currently have votes and commissioners and MEPs and Norway does not. These things are simple to understand and need not be complicated.
You don't have to be in the Leave column to believe we should have an honest debate, and to see the Remain side has been riddled with false claims.
Both sides make false, or debatable, or highly-simplified claims. The most egregious of those is the claim by many on the Leave side that we can have everything we want with zero downside, i.e. that there are no trade-offs at all between (say) free movement of labour and access to the Single Market. They also claim utterly absurd things on the detail, such as the claim that Norway has as much say in EU regulations as full members of the EU have.
Your stunning and willful ignorance of the workings of the EEA and EU make your utterly unfit to even comment on what Eurosceptics might say. you deserve to be treated with nothing but derision.
But his vote is worth as much as yours.
Norway's Minister for EU Affairs has said, 'when there are bigger political issues our shortcomings are more evident, because we are not at the table when decisions are made'
This is something Norway is happy with. It !might be the same with us. But for us, actually now being in the EU, it would be a clear step back and mean ... Well really it would mean not much difference to now.
And that is simply not true according to the EEA and EFTA. Again you are doing the equivalent of quoting Clarke as a neutral expert on the UK/EU relationship
I am quoting the Norwegian Minister for EU Affairs (Helgessen) in an interview with Euractive. Norway are happy with this, they are happy to be part of the EU in everything except name. They can be part of technical committees but not political decisions. Currently they are faced with demands to double their contributions. They may fight it off they may not. In any event the demands will keep coming back. Like I say, this might suit us as well, but it offers very little that is meaningfully different to the public at large except that we currently have votes and commissioners and MEPs and Norway does not. These things are simple to understand and need not be complicated.
You are quoting a Eurofanatical Norwegian minister talking to a pro-EU site. Hardly an unbiased position. As I say if you look at the actual treaties you will see what you are claiming is utter garbage. We went through all this yesterday when I tried to explain to DavidL how the system works and he completely misread the EEA agreement as the basis for his mistaken views. I am afraid it is very much a case of willful ignorance by the Europhiles like yourself.
The undecideds must be doing the criticism of LEAVE this year and criticism of REMAIN next
What's the point of your post, except to antagonise people who are undecided? Is that what you really want?
I'll criticise any group for stay or leave if I think they're doing things wrong; sadly, all the campaigns are pretty useless at the moment so it's fairly evens stevens.
Isam was using a shorthand 'undecided' based on his complaint earlier today that there are a number of commentators on here who claim to be undecided but clearly are not.
If it was shorthand, then it's fairly silly. 'The undecideds' include not just the people who may be faking their undecided status, but also people who are genuinely undecided. Such as, I hope is clear, people like myself.
'Leave' should be trying to reach out to people like me, not antagonise us. It makes it sound as if there are only two camps of people: 'them' or 'us'. As iSam quite likes football analogies, I fear that's the problem.
I also think there is a difference between 'decided' and 'unpersuadable'. Someone might have decided on their vote on the balance of the facts (or evidence) as is currently public, but might be persuadable into the other camp if the facts or evidence alters. It seems some (although not all) of the people iSam is complaining about are decided but potentially persuadable to the other view..
Which, to be fair, is more than others (such as yourself or iSam) are the other way: decided and unpersuadable.
You don't have to be in the Leave column to believe we should have an honest debate, and to see the Remain side has been riddled with false claims.
Both sides make false, or debatable, or highly-simplified claims. The most egregious of those is the claim by many on the Leave side that we can have everything we want with zero downside, i.e. that there are no trade-offs at all between (say) free movement of labour and access to the Single Market. They also claim utterly absurd things on the detail, such as the claim that Norway has as much say in EU regulations as full members of the EU have.
Your stunning and willful ignorance of the workings of the EEA and EU make your utterly unfit to even comment on what Eurosceptics might say. you deserve to be treated with nothing but derision.
But his vote is worth as much as yours.
Norway's Minister for EU Affairs has said, 'when there are bigger political issues our shortcomings are more evident, because we are not at the table when decisions are made'
This is something Norway is happy with. It !might be the same with us. But for us, actually now being in the EU, it would be a clear step back and mean ... Well really it would mean not much difference to now.
Snips.
You are quoting a Eurofanatical Norwegian minister talking to a pro-EU site. Hardly an unbiased position. As I say if you look at the actual treaties you will see what you are claiming is utter garbage. We went through all this yesterday when I tried to explain to DavidL how the system works and he completely misread the EEA agreement as the basis for his mistaken views. I am afraid it is very much a case of willful ignorance by the Europhiles like yourself.
And you are objective???? I am quoting as I said from the outset the Norwegian Minister for EU Affairs. I also said that they sit on technical committees but not the political ones. He goes on to talk about NATO. He says there were 3 foreign minister NATO meetings in a year and 20 EU ones. He points out this is the level of influence and involvement we would lose if we left the EU. The plain fact is the EU will not go away, even without us they will still hold their meetings and make their decisions. May be just may be this is what people want, but they should be aware of what they want and what they will be voting for before they vote.
You don't have to be in the Leave column to believe we should have an honest debate, and to see the Remain side has been riddled with false claims.
Both sides make false, or debatable, or highly-simplified claims. The most egregious of those is the claim by many on the Leave side that we can have everything we want with zero downside, i.e. that there are no trade-offs at all between (say) free movement of labour and access to the Single Market. They also claim utterly absurd things on the detail, such as the claim that Norway has as much say in EU regulations as full members of the EU have.
Your stunning and willful ignorance of the workings of the EEA and EU make your utterly unfit to even comment on what Eurosceptics might say. you deserve to be treated with nothing but derision.
But his vote is worth as much as yours.
Norway's Minister for EU Affairs has said, 'when there are bigger political issues our shortcomings are more evident, because we are not at the table when decisions are made'
This is something Norway is happy with. It !might be the same with us. But for us, actually now being in the EU, it would be a clear step back and mean ... Well really it would mean not much difference to now.
And that is simply not true according to the EEA and EFTA. Again you are doing the equivalent of quoting Clarke as a neutral expert on the UK/EU relationship
I am quoting the Norwegian Minister for EU Affairs (Helgessen) in an interview with Euractive. Norway are happy with this, they are happy to be part of the EU in everything except name. They can be part of technical committees but not political decisions. Currently they are faced with demands to double their contributions. They may fight it off they may not. In any event the demands will keep coming back. Like I say, this might suit us as well, but it offers very little that is meaningfully different to the public at large except that we currently have votes and commissioners and MEPs and Norway does not. These things are simple to understand and need not be complicated.
Vidar Helgesson is a member of Norway's most consistently europhile party, the (Norwegian) Conservative party, which is in favour of Norway joining the EU (unlike the Norwegian electorate). Of course he's going to say that EU membership would be better for Norway.
Terminator 2 is better than the original. In fact, it's one of my all-time favourite films. It's best watched having seen the first film but with no foreknowledge of any aspect of the second film.
The theatrical trailer spoils the big reveal at the end of the first act that the film so brilliantly hides and misdirects you on.
Tiger Woods had another back procedure last Wednesday following his September back surgery and is currently on bed rest.
This has to lengthen the odds that he will ever be back to anything approaching his past form.
I think he is done.
I often wonder whether Tiger Woods would have retired at the top of his game if he'd been from Europe rather than the US, like Björn Borg did in 1983 at the age of 26.
The undecideds must be doing the criticism of LEAVE this year and criticism of REMAIN next
What's the point of your post, except to antagonise people who are undecided? Is that what you really want?
I'll criticise any group for stay or leave if I think they're doing things wrong; sadly, all the campaigns are pretty useless at the moment so it's fairly evens stevens.
Isam was using a shorthand 'undecided' based on his complaint earlier today that there are a number of commentators on here who claim to be undecided but clearly are not.
If it was shorthand, then it's fairly silly. 'The undecideds' include not just the people who may be faking their undecided status, but also people who are genuinely undecided. Such as, I hope is clear, people like myself.
'Leave' should be trying to reach out to people like me, not antagonise us. It makes it sound as if there are only two camps of people: 'them' or 'us'. As iSam quite likes football analogies, I fear that's the problem.
I also think there is a difference between 'decided' and 'unpersuadable'. Someone might have decided on their vote on the balance of the facts (or evidence) as is currently public, but might be persuadable into the other camp if the facts or evidence alters. It seems some (although not all) of the people iSam is complaining about are decided but potentially persuadable to the other view..
Which, to be fair, is more than others (such as yourself or iSam) are the other way: decided and unpersuadable.
Just my opinion, and not referring to you (I wouldn't know how you felt about the EU) but I think there is a certain intellectual fashion in appearing to be undecided/having no strong opinion about things in general, as it seems more reasoned than actually having an opinion, despite actually, and obviously, having a pretty firm opinion
Its a phoney tactic to make the actor seem measured and celebral rather than a shrieking fanatic
The undecideds must be doing the criticism of LEAVE this year and criticism of REMAIN next
What's the point of your post, except to antagonise people who are undecided? Is that what you really want?
I'll criticise any group for stay or leave if I think they're doing things wrong; sadly, all the campaigns are pretty useless at the moment so it's fairly evens stevens.
Isam was using a shorthand 'undecided' based on his complaint earlier today that there are a number of commentators on here who claim to be undecided but clearly are not.
If it was shorthand, then it's fairly silly. 'The undecideds' include not just the people who may be faking their undecided status, but also people who are genuinely undecided. Such as, I hope is clear, people like myself.
'Leave' should be trying to reach out to people like me, not antagonise us. It makes it sound as if there are only two camps of people: 'them' or 'us'. As iSam quite likes football analogies, I fear that's the problem.
I also think there is a difference between 'decided' and 'unpersuadable'. Someone might have decided on their vote on the balance of the facts (or evidence) as is currently public, but might be persuadable into the other camp if the facts or evidence alters. It seems some (although not all) of the people iSam is complaining about are decided but potentially persuadable to the other view..
Which, to be fair, is more than others (such as yourself or iSam) are the other way: decided and unpersuadable.
I don't think that isam or Richard Tyndall have ever claimed to be undecided. FWIW, I am decided and unpersuadable (for Leave). Plenty are decided and unpersuadable on the Remain side. Fair enough. They have every right to hold their opinion.
I think isam's view (which is one I share) is that a number of people posting here claim to be "undecided" yet consistently argue against the "Leave" case and gloss over any shall-we-say "inaccuracies" in the "Remain" case. To me, it is hard to believe that people who consistently post in such a manner are as "undecided" as they claim (if at all). Which is not to say that there are not genuine undecideds (no inverted commas) posting here.
You don't have to be in the Leave column to believe we should have an honest debate, and to see the Remain side has been riddled with false claims.
Both sides make false, or debatable, or highly-simplified claims. The most egregious of those is the claim by many on the Leave side that we can have everything we want with zero downside...
Your stunning and willful ignorance of the workings of the EEA and EU make your utterly unfit to even comment on what Eurosceptics might say. you deserve to be treated with nothing but derision.
But his vote is worth as much as yours.
Norway's Minister for EU Affairs has said, 'when there are bigger political issues our shortcomings are more evident, because we are not at the table when decisions are made'
This is something Norway is happy with. It !might be the same with us. But for us, actually now being in the EU, it would be a clear step back and mean ... Well really it would mean not much difference to now.
And that is simply not true according to the EEA and EFTA. Again you are doing the equivalent of quoting Clarke as a neutral expert on the UK/EU relationship
I am quoting the Norwegian Minister for EU Affairs (Helgessen) in an interview with Euractive. Norway are happy with this, they are happy to be part of the EU in everything except name. They can be part of technical committees but not political decisions. Currently they are faced with demands to double their contributions. They may fight it off they may not. In any event the demands will keep coming back. Like I say, this might suit us as well, but it offers very little that is meaningfully different to the public at large except that we currently have votes and commissioners and MEPs and Norway does not. These things are simple to understand and need not be complicated.
Vidar Helgesson is a member of Norway's most consistently europhile party, the (Norwegian) Conservative party, which is in favour of Norway joining the EU (unlike the Norwegian electorate). Of course he's going to say that EU membership would be better for Norway.
So? The Norweigan political establishment like the EU. The current government of Greece like the EU and furthermore want to stay on the Euro. Do we discount their opinion as well? The opinion of Norway is they like the current arrangement. It might suit us but do not ignore the reality of what that would entail.
Tiger Woods had another back procedure last Wednesday following his September back surgery and is currently on bed rest.
This has to lengthen the odds that he will ever be back to anything approaching his past form.
I think he is done.
I often wonder whether Tiger Woods would have retired at the top of his game if he'd been from Europe rather than the US, like Björn Borg did in 1983 at the age of 26.
Tiger is such an odd duck - he had no real childhood, was a golf wunderkind even as a toddler, and so on.
Golf is different - if you want to get to the top of the game you need to be on the PGA Tour. Ask Westwood, Donald and McIlroy - among others.
The difference is Cam has always warn a poppy. Shame they didn't just find an actual photo of him wearing one.
It's a profile picture for the nr 10 website. Presumably run by civil servants. I'm not sure what the point of fiddling with it is - it seems daft to me, but its not a picture of some public appearance.
The yellow card you mention (done with the connivance of the TMO), missing the late tackle (or foul, I don't think arms were used) on Hogg late on (and the penalty would've been from a kickable position), and the final penalty which should've been a scrum.
The first got Australia 7 points, the second meant no score for the Scots when they should've had 3, and the last cost Scotland 3 points. Getting any one of those three right would've seen Scotland rightfully win.
There was a gross off feet by Aus at the end of the first half that should have been pen for Scotland but resulted in Pen to Aus which resulted in field position for their last try of the half.
No the real nut kicker at the end was that it wasn't even a knock on . The ball goes backwards off Hardie then Phipps collides with Strauss and knock the ball backwards. No Scottish player knocks it on.
The undecideds must be doing the criticism of LEAVE this year and criticism of REMAIN next
What's the point of your post, except to antagonise people who are undecided? Is that what you really want?
I'll criticise any group for stay or leave if I think they're doing things wrong; sadly, all the campaigns are pretty useless at the moment so it's fairly evens stevens.
Isam was using a shorthand 'undecided' based on his complaint earlier today that there are a number of commentators on here who claim to be undecided but clearly are not.
If it was shorthand, then it's fairly silly. 'The undecideds' include not just the people who may be faking their undecided status, but also people who are genuinely undecided. Such as, I hope is clear, people like myself.
'Leave' should be trying to reach out to people like me, not antagonise us. It makes it sound as if there are only two camps of people: 'them' or 'us'. As iSam quite likes football analogies, I fear that's the problem.
I also think there is a difference between 'decided' and 'unpersuadable'. Someone might have decided on their vote on the balance of the facts (or evidence) as is currently public, but might be persuadable into the other camp if the facts or evidence alters. It seems some (although not all) of the people iSam is complaining about are decided but potentially persuadable to the other view..
Which, to be fair, is more than others (such as yourself or iSam) are the other way: decided and unpersuadable.
I don't think that isam or Richard Tyndall have ever claimed to be undecided. FWIW, I am decided and unpersuadable (for Leave). Plenty are decided and unpersuadable on the Remain side. Fair enough. They have every right to hold their opinion.
I think isam's view (which is one I share) is that a number of people posting here claim to be "undecided" yet consistently argue against the "Leave" case and gloss over any shall-we-say "inaccuracies" in the "Remain" case. To me, it is hard to believe that people who consistently post in such a manner are as "undecided" as they claim (if at all). Which is not to say that there are not genuine undecideds (no inverted commas) posting here.
Yes exactly
Glad we think along the same lines
I would rather live in an independent UK that voted in Jeremy Corbyn as PM, who then opened up our borders to absolutely everyone, than stay in the EU as we are. At least we would have specifically voted for him, and could chuck him out if we wanted next time
So? The Norweigan political establishment like the EU. The current government of Greece like the EU and furthermore want to stay on the Euro. Do we discount their opinion as well? The opinion of Norway is they like the current arrangement. It might suit us but do not ignore the reality of what that would entail.
Actually the stated position of the Norwegian Government of both main wings is that they are not happy and want to eventually join the EU. The only thing stopping them is those pesky Norwegian public who are strongly opposed and in many cases would actually like a looser relationship.
The undecideds must be doing the criticism of LEAVE this year and criticism of REMAIN next
What's the point of your post, except to antagonise people who are undecided? Is that what you really want?
I'll criticise any group for stay or leave if I think they're doing things wrong; sadly, all the campaigns are pretty useless at the moment so it's fairly evens stevens.
Isam was using a shorthand 'undecided' based on his complaint earlier today that there are a number of commentators on here who claim to be undecided but clearly are not.
If it was shorthand, then it's fairly silly. 'The undecideds' include not just the people who may be faking their undecided status, but also people who are genuinely undecided. Such as, I hope is clear, people like myself.
'Leave' should be trying to reach out to people like me, not antagonise us. It makes it sound as if there are only two camps of people: 'them' or 'us'. As iSam quite likes football analogies, I fear that's the problem. .
I don't think that isam or Richard Tyndall have ever claimed to be undecided. FWIW, I am decided and unpersuadable (for Leave). Plenty are decided and unpersuadable on the Remain side. Fair enough. They have every right to hold their opinion.
I think isam's view (which is one I share) is that a number of people posting here claim to be "undecided" yet consistently argue against the "Leave" case and gloss over any shall-we-say "inaccuracies" in the "Remain" case. To me, it is hard to believe that people who consistently post in such a manner are as "undecided" as they claim (if at all). Which is not to say that there are not genuine undecideds (no inverted commas) posting here.
There are others who claim to be undecided and never hear a good word said about the EU. PB has always had plenty of "floating voters" or "used to be X but now voting Y". Some maybe true and some may be astroturfers and sock puppets. Such is the nature of the internet.
Good luck to "Leave" in persuading a British public that the EEA is fine and dandy while the EU is a spawn of satan. There is a difference, but not enough for those who want to ban EU regulations and stopping free movement of labour. Not enough either for those of us who actually rather like our EU membership and institutions. It looks like a losing strategy akin to Scotland's independence yet keeping all the British institutions that are popular. It falls between stools.
You don't have to be in the Leave column to believe we should have an honest debate, and to see the Remain side has been riddled with false claims.
Both sides make false, or debatable, or highly-simplified claims. The most egregious of those is the claim by many on the Leave side that we can have everything we want with zero downside, i.e. that there are no trade-offs at all between (say) free movement of labour and access to the Single Market. They also claim utterly absurd things on the detail, such as the claim that Norway has as much say in EU regulations as full members of the EU have.
Your stunning and willful ignorance of the workings of the EEA and EU make your utterly unfit to even comment on what Eurosceptics might say. you deserve to be treated with nothing but derision.
But his vote is worth as much as yours.
Norway's Minister for EU Affairs has said, 'when there are bigger political issues our shortcomings are more evident, because we are not at the table when decisions are made'
This is something Norway is happy with. It !might be the same with us. But for us, actually now being in the EU, it would be a clear step back and mean ... Well really it would mean not much difference to now.
The world has moved on. The top table is no longer the EU, it is the international bodies which Norway has a seat on.
NATO, 3 foreign minister meetings a year. EU, 20. I see NATO as being paramount for defence, but for diplomacy you would be foolish to ignore the EU. There is an argument to be had about EU membership but it is one that needs to take account of facts and the consequences of ignoring them. The EU and its activities will not go away when we leave and in no way can we say we will have any meaningful say in those activities once we have left. Certainly if we turn our back on everything as some suggest even the EEA then we have no influence at all.
But this is where we came in.... What is the settled position of the Outers, where are we if we leave. Where is our inward investment? Where is our induatry? Where are our financial services? Where is our political influence?
The undecideds must be doing the criticism of LEAVE this year and criticism of REMAIN next
What's the point of your post, except to antagonise people who are undecided? Is that what you really want?
I'll criticise any group for stay or leave if I think they're doing things wrong; sadly, all the campaigns are pretty useless at the moment so it's fairly evens stevens.
Isam was using a shorthand 'undecided' based on his complaint earlier today that there are a number of commentators on here who claim to be undecided but clearly are not.
If it was shorthand, then it's fairly silly. 'The undecideds' include not just the people who may be faking their undecided status, but also people who are genuinely undecided. Such as, I hope is clear, people like myself.
'Leave' should be trying to reach out to people like me, not antagonise us. It makes it sound as if there are only two camps of people: 'them' or 'us'. As iSam quite likes football analogies, I fear that's the problem.
I also think there is a difference between 'decided' and 'unpersuadable'. Someone might have decided on their vote on the balance of the facts (or evidence) as is currently public, but might be persuadable into the other camp if the facts or evidence alters. It seems some (although not all) of the people iSam is complaining about are decided but potentially persuadable to the other view..
Which, to be fair, is more than others (such as yourself or iSam) are the other way: decided and unpersuadable.
This is one of those genuine situations where the inability to portray sarcasm etc through the internet changes how something appears. As I say Isam had already been commenting on what you might call the faux-undecided today and that was the context of his comment.
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Casino Royale was excellent (Fleming) but Skyfall ridiculously overhyped. I enjoyed Spectre but they risked Sherlock/Spooks comparisons by coming back to London (again) for the last 20 minutes. This is MI6 not MI5.
Oh, and TGOF and I should be kept apart if he's going to talk that way about Dalton.
There is the fact that Tories are less liked than Labour though, which kind of nauses your argument
It is quite galling that the Alien franchise is now split into three distinct propertys (Original, Prometheus and AvP - four if you include Predator seperately) but still hasn't done Space Marines.
Ugh, do Space Marines already.
However its funny that the notion the Tories as a party are unpopular has no grounding other than secondary questions on opinion polls - which were of course ruled unreliable once more in May. So there is an element of truth to my point ...
I'm behind on both so don't want to Google as it will probably show spoilers.
I guess I might finally gave up on it if someone decided it was Space Marines or the Gap Cycle (and they had a credible way to make it and get around the innate problems of filming the first book as the start of a franchise).
Not that that says anything about his suitability or otherwise for being PM. Mind you, I hate this focus on whether they are like ordinary people. If they were like ordinary people they wouldn't be in politics, let alone ambitious enough to be PM. I don't want some ordinary person being PM - I'd vote Corbyn if being a gullible idiot who looks like any other elderly scruffbag you see on the bus was the only criterion. I want someone ruthless and feline to do the tough stuff that needs doing not someone endlessly worrying about being liked.
And there is plenty of tough stuff that needs doing now. Even if this isn't quite the 1970's or 1980's (yet), there are quite enough parallels: turmoil in the Middle East, Russia being difficult/aggressive, terrorism risks, economic tough choices, decisions about Europe, a relatively weak America, a Labour party rediscovering its Marxist soul, etc etc......
I'm currently working my way through watching (or listening to - in the case of the missing episodes) all 26 years of classic Doctor Who in order. I'm up to The Tenth Planet and getting ready to say goodbye to my favourite Doctor.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11970391/Internet-firms-to-be-banned-from-offering-out-of-reach-communications-under-new-laws.html
I cannot imagine a more fatuous waste of legislative time short of passing a bill saying that in future the sun will rise in the West.
He also wrote "The Fall of the Roman Umpire" and "Remembrance of Swings Past".
I don't follow baseball any more but used to do so keenly 35 years ago.
This is becoming Vaporware Legislation.
The whole DC universe is mired in so many absolutely fundamental Rights Issues that I think a bit of magic is the least of its problems, for m the Flarrowverse is getting things more or less right (while DC continues to utterly screw up).
The villain says "It was me James. I am responsible for all your pain." He is so lame and non-threatening.
What am I missing?
Sometimes I worry about my wife ...
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2015/10/how-worried-should-labour-be-about-oldham-west-and-royton-election
If only '5 rounds rapid' were the solutions to all our problems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwyRmRY7Eok
This is something Norway is happy with. It !might be the same with us. But for us, actually now being in the EU, it would be a clear step back and mean ... Well really it would mean not much difference to now.
PS Did you mean to address that to me? What with me being a lady probably old enough to be your mother .... or a very much older sister, anyway.
Edit: neither am I that young.
Those canvassing teams will be sensitively made sure that some activists are kept away from certain areas.
Like I say, this might suit us as well, but it offers very little that is meaningfully different to the public at large except that we currently have votes and commissioners and MEPs and Norway does not.
These things are simple to understand and need not be complicated.
This has to lengthen the odds that he will ever be back to anything approaching his past form.
I think he is done.
'Leave' should be trying to reach out to people like me, not antagonise us. It makes it sound as if there are only two camps of people: 'them' or 'us'. As iSam quite likes football analogies, I fear that's the problem.
I also think there is a difference between 'decided' and 'unpersuadable'. Someone might have decided on their vote on the balance of the facts (or evidence) as is currently public, but might be persuadable into the other camp if the facts or evidence alters. It seems some (although not all) of the people iSam is complaining about are decided but potentially persuadable to the other view..
Which, to be fair, is more than others (such as yourself or iSam) are the other way: decided and unpersuadable.
Of course he's going to say that EU membership would be better for Norway.
Its a phoney tactic to make the actor seem measured and celebral rather than a shrieking fanatic
I don't think that isam or Richard Tyndall have ever claimed to be undecided. FWIW, I am decided and unpersuadable (for Leave). Plenty are decided and unpersuadable on the Remain side. Fair enough. They have every right to hold their opinion.
I think isam's view (which is one I share) is that a number of people posting here claim to be "undecided" yet consistently argue against the "Leave" case and gloss over any shall-we-say "inaccuracies" in the "Remain" case. To me, it is hard to believe that people who consistently post in such a manner are as "undecided" as they claim (if at all). Which is not to say that there are not genuine undecideds (no inverted commas) posting here.
The opinion of Norway is they like the current arrangement. It might suit us but do not ignore the reality of what that would entail.
Golf is different - if you want to get to the top of the game you need to be on the PGA Tour. Ask Westwood, Donald and McIlroy - among others.
No the real nut kicker at the end was that it wasn't even a knock on . The ball goes backwards off Hardie then Phipps collides with Strauss and knock the ball backwards. No Scottish player knocks it on.
I might not be over it yet.
Glad we think along the same lines
I would rather live in an independent UK that voted in Jeremy Corbyn as PM, who then opened up our borders to absolutely everyone, than stay in the EU as we are. At least we would have specifically voted for him, and could chuck him out if we wanted next time
We'll see. Word is his money people are really rattled.
He says he's having fun - but looks like he's about to have a root canal.
Good luck to "Leave" in persuading a British public that the EEA is fine and dandy while the EU is a spawn of satan. There is a difference, but not enough for those who want to ban EU regulations and stopping free movement of labour. Not enough either for those of us who actually rather like our EU membership and institutions. It looks like a losing strategy akin to Scotland's independence yet keeping all the British institutions that are popular. It falls between stools.
I see NATO as being paramount for defence, but for diplomacy you would be foolish to ignore the EU.
There is an argument to be had about EU membership but it is one that needs to take account of facts and the consequences of ignoring them. The EU and its activities will not go away when we leave and in no way can we say we will have any meaningful say in those activities once we have left. Certainly if we turn our back on everything as some suggest even the EEA then we have no influence at all.
But this is where we came in.... What is the settled position of the Outers, where are we if we leave. Where is our inward investment? Where is our induatry? Where are our financial services? Where is our political influence?
I'm sure she still has it in her to trump the Edstone....