OT. Pretty indefensible shooting a Russian plane down. Hard to know whether or not it was mistaken identity. I can attest to the incompetence of Turks in general so mistaken identity wouldn't surprise me at all.
Good point. The LD's dive into political irrelevance has been quick, brutal and all pervasive. I cannot see anyway back for them for ten years at the least, and possibly many more.
I note noone knows, cares or mentions what the Lib Dems have done on the Trident vote today.
So that's two opposition parties who are now irrelevant. It seems as if it's only the SNP (and possibly, at a pinch) UKIP that the government have to hold them to account. Genuine question: who are centre-left voters (and I am one) going to vote for if they don't live in Scotland?
OT. Pretty indefensible shooting a Russian plane down. Hard to know whether or not it was mistaken identity. I can attest to the incompetence of Turks in general so mistaken identity wouldn't surprise me at all.
They knew what they were doing. The Assad forces were advancing on the Turkmen with Russian airpower and Iranian ground help. The Turks were itching to shoot one down. They chose the wrong one.
The shooting of the pilots as they were parachuting down is probably more deplorable. Are we prepared to take these chances ?
@JGForsyth: Die Welt reporting 1 of the Paris terrorists registered as a refugee in Germany, if true this will have big political implications 4 Merkel
I have lost count now, is that 2,3 or 4 that have claimed to be refugees fleeing Syria?
@JGForsyth: Die Welt reporting 1 of the Paris terrorists registered as a refugee in Germany, if true this will have big political implications 4 Merkel
I have lost count now, is that 2,3 or 4 that have claimed to be refugees fleeing Syria?
Labour pontificates about how democratic its new selection procedure is, but how democratic is a system which lets virtually anyone buy a vote for £3? How many of these Three Quiders were motivated by pro Labour reasons? Labour has always been prone to infiltration by rogue factions seeking to change the nature of it's psyche and has had to fight long and hard to defend itself, yet it has now amended its selection rules to encourage what it previously vehemently discouraged. Who made that decision? Was it the membership? Nah, as I recall it was Mister Ed. Not much democracy there then.
Labour is now a 21st century rotten borough where votes are bought and sold, accepting that payment moved in the opposite direction in the old style rotten boroughs. I don't know what's worse.
Liz Kendall (Leicester West) (Lab): Does the Secretary of State agree that, if we want to keep Britain safe, it is not a question of choosing between renewing our nuclear deterrent and taking the necessary action against ISIL—given that both are vital—and that it would be foolhardy, not to say arrogant, to believe that anyone in the House can predict the risks and threats that Britain will face in the next 30 or 40 years?
Michael Fallon: I could not have put it better.
Except it is a question of putting however many billions of our defence budget in one basket that de facto means we will be less equipped to deal with threats that present greater risks.
A case of twat answering twat to be honest.
Spending on Trident is expected to be £31bn vs £178 bn on various programmes announced yesterday. Sounds full spectrum approach to me.
@JGForsyth: Die Welt reporting 1 of the Paris terrorists registered as a refugee in Germany, if true this will have big political implications 4 Merkel
I have lost count now, is that 2,3 or 4 that have claimed to be refugees fleeing Syria?
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added bit - there is some discussion of the October 3rd arrival on Leros had a party of 6 doing the Syrian refugee stunt.
Hi Tyson. It looks like we've just about got a quorum for Labour posters against Corbyn. I think there's only Nick left. Farron's started to sound interesting. He just needs a couple of decent Labour defections
It strikes me that someone in Turkey has made a monumental balls up- I can't for the life of me understand the strategic point in taking out a Russian fighter plane inching over Turkish airspace.
Equally, the airliner over Ukraine was a monumental balls up- the separatists clearly though the aircraft was Ukranian military.
Didn't the Russian military expect some form of resistance from a variety of quarters with different objectives from them? I thought it was the US who specialised in an unrealistic expectation of universal acclaim.
In what way do you feel they should have responded differently to this?
Not having an inside hotline to what actually went on, it's hard for me to say how the Kremlin should respond. They haven't had a great track record of respecting international airspace so they may not have been saints on this occasion either. Equally, the Turks have their own agenda in the area which they are no doubt going to pursue. For now I'm prepared to wait and see how this unfolds before making any snap judgements.
But that wasn't my point. My point was that going on military adventures in pursuit of la gloire has risks. Finding that you get shot back at is the most obvious one.
Yes, but you've not provided anything to support to your notion that they didn't expect resistance or opposition. We can only go by their response which so far has been measured in the extreme.
I agree with Mr jessops detailed response to your comment. Russia is bombing various groups, some allied to the West and doing so in support of Assad. Russian objectives are not our objectives and they are careless about intruding on their neighbours. eg Ukraine. These Russian planes were not bombing in support of the anti Assad rebels they were bombing the anti Assad rebels. Putin and his apologists are all sick if they are trying to equate this to ISIS.
This could get entertaining.....Putin accuses Turkey of supporting ISIS - yet the Russian jet was shot down in an area not controlled by ISIS......
Crickey, that them fighting words.
Edit: Did he says ISIS or as quoted by BBC, terrorists?
According to Russia Today (who I'd regard as reliable on the words of Putin, if not much else):
IS now not only receives revenue from the smuggling of oil, but also has the protection of a nation’s military, Putin said. This may explain why the terrorist group is so bold in taking acts of terrorism across the world,
Edit - but the jet was shot down in an area not controlled by IS.....
Yes - I think the two things are unrelated. I think Putin is just taking the chance to strongly criticise Turkey's actions supporting ISIS, of which there is now overwhelming evidence.
My reading of the story is that Turkey has been extremely angered at Russia bombing the 'Turkmen' anti-Assad rebels in the area concerned. These people are of Turkish origin.
Hence they lay in wait until Russia flew over a 'finger' of Turkish territory (you can see where it sticks out on the map), and planned to shoot the plane down. The Russians deny an incursion but I'm not sure I believe them. But on the other hand, looking at this slither of territory, the Russian plane would have been over it in seconds. There is no way that Turkey would have had time to scramble jets, let alone give the '10 warnings' it claims. Pilots landed over Syria too. It looks highly premediated.
Turkey was evidently to me I) taking revenge and II) hoping that Russia would retaliate and provoke a bigger conflict.
I assume the others, including Corbyn don't know what they stand for (or against)
Well that rebellion fizzled out too.
And that is why Corbyn will stagger on for months if not year. It appears to be a condition of becoming a Labour MP that you have your backbone removed.
Liz Kendall (Leicester West) (Lab): Does the Secretary of State agree that, if we want to keep Britain safe, it is not a question of choosing between renewing our nuclear deterrent and taking the necessary action against ISIL—given that both are vital—and that it would be foolhardy, not to say arrogant, to believe that anyone in the House can predict the risks and threats that Britain will face in the next 30 or 40 years?
Michael Fallon: I could not have put it better.
Liz Kendall, the Tory backbencher? No surprise there
She should start to work out what her pension would be in 2020. Even her co-participant on This Week, Michael Portillo, ex-Defence Secretary does not support Trident.
I assume the others, including Corbyn don't know what they stand for (or against)
Well that rebellion fizzled out too.
Yes, its really hardly worth repeating all this over and over again. But the PLP has missed another opportunity to take a turn off its road to destruction. Totally useless.
@JGForsyth: Die Welt reporting 1 of the Paris terrorists registered as a refugee in Germany, if true this will have big political implications 4 Merkel
I have lost count now, is that 2,3 or 4 that have claimed to be refugees fleeing Syria?
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I had understood that the terrorists were all people who had European passports and were nationals in France but that they used the "Syrian refugee" route because it made it easier for them to travel round undetected.
Is it now the case that one of them did not have a European passport and only got into France via Germany claiming to be a Syrian refugee?
Both are bad for Germany but the latter is much worse, I'd have thought.
I also wonder whether the desire not to have to face up to the implications - if true - will mean that the French won't make a big thing of it, or not as big as they might. Hollande seems intent on going after IS rather than accusing Germany of having let in killers who murdered his citizens.
OT. Pretty indefensible shooting a Russian plane down. Hard to know whether or not it was mistaken identity. I can attest to the incompetence of Turks in general so mistaken identity wouldn't surprise me at all.
They knew what they were doing. The Assad forces were advancing on the Turkmen with Russian airpower and Iranian ground help. The Turks were itching to shoot one down. They chose the wrong one.
The shooting of the pilots as they were parachuting down is probably more deplorable. Are we prepared to take these chances ?
It's amazing how events are constantly turning the tables on the Syrian debate.
Currently the Syrian bombing vote is again off, after being on again after Paris, after being off after the Russian involvement, after being on again when Corbyn got elected.
It strikes me that someone in Turkey has made a monumental balls up- I can't for the life of me understand the strategic point in taking out a Russian fighter plane inching over Turkish airspace.
Equally, the airliner over Ukraine was a monumental balls up- the separatists clearly though the aircraft was Ukranian military.
Didn't the Russian military expect some form of resistance from a variety of quarters with different objectives from them? I thought it was the US who specialised in an unrealistic expectation of universal acclaim.
In what way do you feel they should have responded differently to this?
Not having an inside hotline to what actually went on, it's hard for me to say how the Kremlin should respond. They haven't had a great track record of respecting international airspace so they may not have been saints on this occasion either. Equally, the Turks have their own agenda in the area which they are no doubt going to pursue. For now I'm prepared to wait and see how this unfolds before making any snap judgements.
But that wasn't my point. My point was that going on military adventures in pursuit of la gloire has risks. Finding that you get shot back at is the most obvious one.
Yes, but you've not provided anything to support to your notion that they didn't expect resistance or opposition. We can only go by their response which so far has been measured in the extreme.
I agree with Mr jessops detailed response to your comment. Russia is bombing various groups, some allied to the West and doing so in support of Assad. Russian objectives are not our objectives and they are careless about intruding on their neighbours. eg Ukraine. These Russian planes were not bombing in support of the anti Assad rebels they were bombing the anti Assad rebels. Putin and his apologists are all sick if they are trying to equate this to ISIS.
The Russians are correct in trying to destroy these Saudi funded terrorists.
"The shooting of the pilots as they were parachuting down is probably more deplorable. Are we prepared to take these chances ?"
Is that what happened? I've not heard the latest news. If they were indeed killed under those circumstances the Turks better apologize quickly or I fear for them. All the Russians need are demos on the streets of Moscow and who knows what'll follow.
Liz Kendall (Leicester West) (Lab): Does the Secretary of State agree that, if we want to keep Britain safe, it is not a question of choosing between renewing our nuclear deterrent and taking the necessary action against ISIL—given that both are vital—and that it would be foolhardy, not to say arrogant, to believe that anyone in the House can predict the risks and threats that Britain will face in the next 30 or 40 years?
Michael Fallon: I could not have put it better.
Except it is a question of putting however many billions of our defence budget in one basket that de facto means we will be less equipped to deal with threats that present greater risks.
A case of twat answering twat to be honest.
Spending on Trident is expected to be £31bn vs £178 bn on various programmes announced yesterday. Sounds full spectrum approach to me.
£31bn for each Trident
No. £1bn a year for the lifetime of the system. Less probably.
The turbulence in the Labour party tends to be discussed in terms of policy differences between leadership and MPs. I suspect that there is a much deeper problem with JC. It is competence. Most of us who have worked in organisations, businesses or professions get to know our colleagues pretty well. We appreciate who is competent and who is not. We know who could lead ,if required.Those who have worked with JC over the years will know whether he is up to it. I never voted for Blair or Brown but I never once doubted their ability to do the basics of the job- to chair meetings,conduct policy reviews,oversee discipline in the party,speak to the media ,lead in the HOC and make decisions under pressure. They were men of substance and stature. I think the problem here is that the MPs know JC too well.They know that he is simply not up to it. He is the old office maverick who was always there muttering at his desk about the management but never taken seriously.He has been foisted on them and they resent it. I think that they should come clean. They should tell the media about his basic competence to do the job. In fact I think that that is their duty. To us who have not worked with him and who do not know him beyond what we see of him on our TV screens it would be valuable to know -how bad is he? Over to you and your colleagues Mr Palmer.
Blair's third way involving stripping the Labour party of ideology and re-positioning it as a pragmatic party of Govt was always going to hit stormy waters once Labour lost power. But who could have predicted its disastrous choice of leaders and just what kind of pickle it has got itself into?
I really struggle with Nick's personal approach to Corbyn. Although I am a member of the Labour Party and will continue to maintain my membership, I couldn't vote for Labour with Corbyn as leader. I just couldn't. I would much rather Dr Death himself, Osborne as PM, or even the frightening May, or narcissistic Boris. Not even close for me.
Note to Nick- I am a statist, left liberal- so if Corbyn has that effect on me, what kind of effect is he going to have on moderate swing voters when the spotlight is on him?
It depresses me beyond anything that 71% of Labour members care more about policies than power. The political equivalent of ISIS- suicidal, nihilistic politics.
I hope Labour lose Oldham, and every other election it participates in until Corbyn leaves or is ousted.
It just doesn't feel right to have such disparity in British politics- it needs checks and balances. I ask the Tories here- OK you had a few days of fun when Corbyn was elected- but do you really want a politics where the opposition is so enfeebled? Even in the darkest days of IDS, the Tory party still had stature and gravitas; that is much more than you can say for the Labour Party now.
I've said repeatedly that Corbyn is a tragedy for British politics. I'm right of centre, yet understand that this government can, has and will make mistakes. If we don't have a credible opposition we're more likely to have even more poor governance and bad legislation. I also would like a choice as to where to lend my vote.
I love the crocodile tears from PBTories about the lack of real opposition, but who then start getting outraged when the Tories do in fact face opposition from the House of Lords (opposition on things which the Tories didn't get a mandate for in the election, to boot).
"The shooting of the pilots as they were parachuting down is probably more deplorable. Are we prepared to take these chances ?"
Is that what happened? I've not heard the latest news. If they were indeed killed under those circumstances the Turks better apologize quickly or I fear for them. All the Russians need are demos on the streets of Moscow and who knows what'll follow.
The rebels posted videos shooting the pilots with machine guns while they parachuted and then looting their dead bodies, Turkey also said that the pilots were dead before reversing position for legal reasons (executing POW's is a war crime).
Hi Tyson. It looks like we've just about got a quorum for Labour posters against Corbyn. I think there's only Nick left. Farron's started to sound interesting. He just needs a couple of decent Labour defections
I've tried very hard to summon up some enthusiasm for the LibDems, but it is just not possible. They are almost totally invisible and completely unremarkable.
The vast majority of Russia's air strikes have been against anti-Assad rebels, not ISIS.
Unlike the coalition, Russia has never categorised terrorists according to arm bands. They went in fully stating that they intended to attack all terrorists in the country, but were open to cooperation with 'patriotic' rebels fighting ISIS, which they have been - they have had contact with those elements of the FSA still fighting ISIS, and have worked with them accordingly. To say they went in only after ISIS is a distortion, and begs the question, is Al Nusra not a legitimate target? Do you want the perpetrators of 9-11 to control swathes of Syria?
Even as one of a panoply of targets, I'd wager the Russians have struck ISIS more frequently than the US has been doing. The US was mounting an average of 7 airstrikes a day. Compared with 800 a day against Saddam. ISIS only started to lose terroritory and fall back after Russia began its attacks. Before them they were rampant.
I have to say, I take a harder line than Nick regarding some of these whining Labour MPs.
I do not pay my subscription money every year simply so that these people have cushy jobs with no strings attached - I pay so that my politics are represented, and I'm not going to be shy about demanding certain things (such as OPPOSING THE GOVERNMENT in the Commons when right-wing things are proposed) in return for the privilege we are granting to them.
I dare say the voters in the constituencies of these MPs have equally strong views about what their MP should or should not be doing. But, hey, they don't pay a subscription so who cares about them, eh? After all, it was only their votes which got the MP elected.
If the MP feels their election owes more to them personally than to the Labour Party banner (and the money that such a banner gives them(, then they are free to quit and stand in a by-election as an independent anytime - then they would be completely free of any demands from people like me.
You want a special privilege to be given to your views because you pay and other voters don't.
Not just equality it's Jeremy Corbyn style Labour equality.
Good point. The LD's dive into political irrelevance has been quick, brutal and all pervasive. I cannot see anyway back for them for ten years at the least, and possibly many more.
I note noone knows, cares or mentions what the Lib Dems have done on the Trident vote today.
So that's two opposition parties who are now irrelevant. It seems as if it's only the SNP (and possibly, at a pinch) UKIP that the government have to hold them to account. Genuine question: who are centre-left voters (and I am one) going to vote for if they don't live in Scotland?
I can't see myself voting in the GE as things stand. I took to voting LD in the locals a while back because they get things done, but nationally they are nothing.
"The shooting of the pilots as they were parachuting down is probably more deplorable. Are we prepared to take these chances ?"
Is that what happened? I've not heard the latest news. If they were indeed killed under those circumstances the Turks better apologize quickly or I fear for them. All the Russians need are demos on the streets of Moscow and who knows what'll follow.
The rebels posted videos shooting the pilots with machine guns while they parachuted and then looting their dead bodies, Turkey also said that the pilots were dead before reversing position for legal reasons (executing POW's is a war crime).
You think the lunatics in Syria that the Russians are bombing, observe the Geneva Convention?
"The shooting of the pilots as they were parachuting down is probably more deplorable. Are we prepared to take these chances ?"
Is that what happened? I've not heard the latest news. If they were indeed killed under those circumstances the Turks better apologize quickly or I fear for them. All the Russians need are demos on the streets of Moscow and who knows what'll follow.
The rebels posted videos shooting the pilots with machine guns while they parachuted and then looting their dead bodies, Turkey also said that the pilots were dead before reversing position for legal reasons (executing POW's is a war crime).
Yes thats disgraceful and disgusting. Unfortunately, uncomfortably and unsurprisingly it is not unexpected, the gunmen were being bombed by the Russian plane. We must ask however just what use is Putins glamours 'war room' if it so blatantly puts planes into Turkish airspace.
The vast majority of Russia's air strikes have been against anti-Assad rebels, not ISIS.
Unlike the coalition, Russia has never categorised terrorists according to arm bands. They went in fully stating that they intended to attack all terrorists in the country, but were open to cooperation with 'patriotic' rebels fighting ISIS, which they have been - they have had contact with those elements of the FSA still fighting ISIS, and have worked with them accordingly. To say they went in only after ISIS is a distortion, and begs the question, is Al Nusra not a legitimate target? Do you want the perpetrators of 9-11 to control swathes of Syria?
Even as one of a panoply of targets, I'd wager the Russians have struck ISIS more frequently than the US has been doing. The US was mounting an average of 7 airstrikes a day. Compared with 800 a day against Saddam. ISIS only started to lose terroritory and fall back after Russia began its attacks. Before them they were rampant.
I shed no tears for Al-Nusra getting lit up. They bloody dangerous mob.
The current dog learnt to give paw almost immediately. She's quite small, which may prove a good thing (never had a dog that worked out how to open doors, and would prefer it to stay that way).
Mr. Tyson, can't comment on cats, but there is a lot of communication between people and dogs. It can vary a bit, depending on the dog's personality and intelligence [mind you, that's true of people too...].
Edited extra bit: Mr. Llama, to be honest, most of it's just common sense.
You'll need a bit of patience in the earliest days of house-training (a couple of weeks waking up to clean dog mess every day wasn't great, but Kai sometimes had volcanic diarrhoea, which would take 1-2 hours to clean up, so it wasn't too bad). By instinct, most dogs will, fairly early on, go for long grass, or at least off the beaten path.
Worth researching breed just a little so you have an idea about size and temperament (one suspects a Japanese akita would not suit you). Also, get your hound spayed or castrated as early as possible. It both reduces aggression and (for male dogs definitely, unsure of bitches) increases life expectancy.
My hound is a mixture of English sheepdog and New Zealand Huntaway (with a touch of dingo, apparently) from a Cumbrian farm. He is a most intelligent and affectionate animal and attracts admiring glances wherever he goes. He loves car journeys, tries to round up the cats - they just look at him with amused tolerance - and sits on my feet when I am cooking. He hardly ever barks, preferring to whine when wanting to be let out. Apparently, this is a dingo trait.
If you have teenagers in the house a dog is a very good thing because it means that there is always one sentient being who is pleased to see you.
Edited: Plus he earns his living as he does the prewash before the plates go into the dishwasher.
Dogs are very good for sulky teenagers as well as parents. Dogs are quite tolerant of bad teenage behaviour and affectionate back.
"I also wonder whether the desire not to have to face up to the implications - if true - will mean that the French won't make a big thing of it, or not as big as they might. Hollande seems intent on going after IS rather than accusing Germany of having let in killers who murdered his citizens."
What's the significance? How would he have identified them as 'killers'. We don't have closed borders. I myself have travelled to the UK with people on Syrian Passports in the past. It's a total red herring to believe they couldn't have got access to France unless of course they had a terrorist record. The only passport that is very difficult is a Palestinian one
Liz Kendall (Leicester West) (Lab): Does the Secretary of State agree that, if we want to keep Britain safe, it is not a question of choosing between renewing our nuclear deterrent and taking the necessary action against ISIL—given that both are vital—and that it would be foolhardy, not to say arrogant, to believe that anyone in the House can predict the risks and threats that Britain will face in the next 30 or 40 years?
Michael Fallon: I could not have put it better.
Except it is a question of putting however many billions of our defence budget in one basket that de facto means we will be less equipped to deal with threats that present greater risks.
A case of twat answering twat to be honest.
Spending on Trident is expected to be £31bn vs £178 bn on various programmes announced yesterday. Sounds full spectrum approach to me.
Seems like a 7th of the over all budget going on an infinitessimably small post nuclear winter Prime Minister writes a letter with his last finger scenario to me.
The vast majority of Russia's air strikes have been against anti-Assad rebels, not ISIS.
Unlike the coalition, Russia has never categorised terrorists according to arm bands. They went in fully stating that they intended to attack all terrorists in the country, but were open to cooperation with 'patriotic' rebels fighting ISIS, which they have been - they have had contact with those elements of the FSA still fighting ISIS, and have worked with them accordingly. To say they went in only after ISIS is a distortion, and begs the question, is Al Nusra not a legitimate target? Do you want the perpetrators of 9-11 to control swathes of Syria?
Even as one of a panoply of targets, I'd wager the Russians have struck ISIS more frequently than the US has been doing. The US was mounting an average of 7 airstrikes a day. Compared with 800 a day against Saddam. ISIS only started to lose terroritory and fall back after Russia began its attacks. Before them they were rampant.
The vast majority of Russia's air strikes have been against anti-Assad rebels, not ISIS.
Unlike the coalition, Russia has never categorised terrorists according to arm bands. They went in fully stating that they intended to attack all terrorists in the country, but were open to cooperation with 'patriotic' rebels fighting ISIS, which they have been - they have had contact with those elements of the FSA still fighting ISIS, and have worked with them accordingly. To say they went in only after ISIS is a distortion, and begs the question, is Al Nusra not a legitimate target? Do you want the perpetrators of 9-11 to control swathes of Syria?
Even as one of a panoply of targets, I'd wager the Russians have struck ISIS more frequently than the US has been doing. The US was mounting an average of 7 airstrikes a day. Compared with 800 a day against Saddam. ISIS only started to lose terroritory and fall back after Russia began its attacks. Before them they were rampant.
800 air strikes a day? When was this... in the invasion? How many planes does it take to do 800 bombing raids in a day?
The vast majority of Russia's air strikes have been against anti-Assad rebels, not ISIS.
Unlike the coalition, Russia has never categorised terrorists according to arm bands. They went in fully stating that they intended to attack all terrorists in the country, but were open to cooperation with 'patriotic' rebels fighting ISIS, which they have been - they have had contact with those elements of the FSA still fighting ISIS, and have worked with them accordingly. To say they went in only after ISIS is a distortion, and begs the question, is Al Nusra not a legitimate target? Do you want the perpetrators of 9-11 to control swathes of Syria?
Even as one of a panoply of targets, I'd wager the Russians have struck ISIS more frequently than the US has been doing. The US was mounting an average of 7 airstrikes a day. Compared with 800 a day against Saddam. ISIS only started to lose terroritory and fall back after Russia began its attacks. Before them they were rampant.
I shed no tears for Al-Nusra getting lit up. They bloody dangerous mob.
Quite. But it doesn't stop the media attack line being 'Why aren't they just hitting ISIS?' as if the presence of such profound evil makes all the other pond life angelic souls who we should be supporting.
When I worked in a pub kitchens I used to let the landlords 2 dobermans loose on the cooking pots prior to me washing them. They were excellent dish washing assistants.
The current dog learnt to give paw almost immediately. She's quite small, which may prove a good thing (never had a dog that worked out how to open doors, and would prefer it to stay that way).
Mr. Tyson, can't comment on cats, but there is a lot of communication between people and dogs. It can vary a bit, depending on the dog's personality and intelligence [mind you, that's true of people too...].
Edited extra bit: Mr. Llama, to be honest, most of it's just common sense.
You'll need a bit of patience in the earliest days of house-training (a couple of weeks waking up to clean dog mess every day wasn't great, but Kai sometimes had volcanic diarrhoea, which would take 1-2 hours to clean up, so it wasn't too bad). By instinct, most dogs will, fairly early on, go for long grass, or at least off the beaten path.
Worth researching breed just a little so you have an idea about size and temperament (one suspects a Japanese akita would not suit you). Also, get your hound spayed or castrated as early as possible. It both reduces aggression and (for male dogs definitely, unsure of bitches) increases life expectancy.
My hound is a mixture of English sheepdog and New Zealand Huntaway (with a touch of dingo, apparently) from a Cumbrian farm. He is a most intelligent and affectionate animal and attracts admiring glances wherever he goes. He loves car journeys, tries to round up the cats - they just look at him with amused tolerance - and sits on my feet when I am cooking. He hardly ever barks, preferring to whine when wanting to be let out. Apparently, this is a dingo trait.
If you have teenagers in the house a dog is a very good thing because it means that there is always one sentient being who is pleased to see you.
Edited: Plus he earns his living as he does the prewash before the plates go into the dishwasher.
The vast majority of Russia's air strikes have been against anti-Assad rebels, not ISIS.
Unlike the coalition, Russia has never categorised terrorists according to arm bands. They went in fully stating that they intended to attack all terrorists in the country, but were open to cooperation with 'patriotic' rebels fighting ISIS, which they have been - they have had contact with those elements of the FSA still fighting ISIS, and have worked with them accordingly. To say they went in only after ISIS is a distortion, and begs the question, is Al Nusra not a legitimate target? Do you want the perpetrators of 9-11 to control swathes of Syria?
Even as one of a panoply of targets, I'd wager the Russians have struck ISIS more frequently than the US has been doing. The US was mounting an average of 7 airstrikes a day. Compared with 800 a day against Saddam. ISIS only started to lose terroritory and fall back after Russia began its attacks. Before them they were rampant.
The vast majority of Russia's air strikes have been against anti-Assad rebels, not ISIS.
Unlike the coalition, Russia has never categorised terrorists according to arm bands. They went in fully stating that they intended to attack all terrorists in the country, but were open to cooperation with 'patriotic' rebels fighting ISIS, which they have been - they have had contact with those elements of the FSA still fighting ISIS, and have worked with them accordingly. To say they went in only after ISIS is a distortion, and begs the question, is Al Nusra not a legitimate target? Do you want the perpetrators of 9-11 to control swathes of Syria?
Even as one of a panoply of targets, I'd wager the Russians have struck ISIS more frequently than the US has been doing. The US was mounting an average of 7 airstrikes a day. Compared with 800 a day against Saddam. ISIS only started to lose terroritory and fall back after Russia began its attacks. Before them they were rampant.
800 air strikes a day? When was this... in the invasion? How many planes does it take to do 800 bombing raids in a day?
Mr. StClare, indeed, worsened by the fact she isn't yet spayed and has an excess of teeth (literally, both her adult and puppy fangs are in residence, side-by-side. Both their removal and her spaying will occur tomorrow).
Mr. Llama, the hound gets quite enough attention. A firm hand is needed to help teach a pup to leave someone alone when they're eating, or suchlike. Give a dog all the attention it wants, whenever it wants it, and you'll find that the dog owns you, rather than vice versa.
[Her predecessor's predecessor did once utterly destroy a light wooden bin, spreading its many pieces across the floor. In that hound's defence, she was a rescue dog and came from an unsuitable previous owner. Also, Kai chewed through the burglar alarm wire when he was a pup].
Perhaps because I have only ever lived with cats and people I have never got into this ownership thing. Similarly I have trouble understanding the concept of pets. An animal who lives with me must earn his or her keep and we will come to a mutual understanding through learning to communicate with each other (Mr. B provides a fine example of mutual understanding and communication up thread).
Well, obviously, if you live with cats you don't understand the concept of ownership. Cats don't have owners. They have staff.
There's another major difference between cats and dogs. I found it out from a book written by a retired Chief Medical Officer from California.
If you die alone in your house, a dog will pine and stay close to you. A cat just needs to eat and once the food plate is empty, you're next.
The vast majority of Russia's air strikes have been against anti-Assad rebels, not ISIS.
Unlike the coalition, Russia has never categorised terrorists according to arm bands. They went in fully stating that they intended to attack all terrorists in the country, but were open to cooperation with 'patriotic' rebels fighting ISIS, which they have been - they have had contact with those elements of the FSA still fighting ISIS, and have worked with them accordingly. To say they went in only after ISIS is a distortion, and begs the question, is Al Nusra not a legitimate target? Do you want the perpetrators of 9-11 to control swathes of Syria?
Even as one of a panoply of targets, I'd wager the Russians have struck ISIS more frequently than the US has been doing. The US was mounting an average of 7 airstrikes a day. Compared with 800 a day against Saddam. ISIS only started to lose terroritory and fall back after Russia began its attacks. Before them they were rampant.
Of those 7 US strikes per day, almost half return with their bombs still on the racks, because of incredibly strict rules of engagement. So effectively it's 3-4 strikes per day.
Mr. StClare, indeed, worsened by the fact she isn't yet spayed and has an excess of teeth (literally, both her adult and puppy fangs are in residence, side-by-side. Both their removal and her spaying will occur tomorrow).
Mr. Llama, the hound gets quite enough attention. A firm hand is needed to help teach a pup to leave someone alone when they're eating, or suchlike. Give a dog all the attention it wants, whenever it wants it, and you'll find that the dog owns you, rather than vice versa.
[Her predecessor's predecessor did once utterly destroy a light wooden bin, spreading its many pieces across the floor. In that hound's defence, she was a rescue dog and came from an unsuitable previous owner. Also, Kai chewed through the burglar alarm wire when he was a pup].
Perhaps because I have only ever lived with cats and people I have never got into this ownership thing. Similarly I have trouble understanding the concept of pets. An animal who lives with me must earn his or her keep and we will come to a mutual understanding through learning to communicate with each other (Mr. B provides a fine example of mutual understanding and communication up thread).
Well, obviously, if you live with cats you don't understand the concept of ownership. Cats don't have owners. They have staff.
There's another major difference between cats and dogs. I found it out from a book written by a retired Chief Medical Officer from California.
If you die alone in your house, a dog will pine and stay close to you. A cat just needs to eat and once the food plate is empty, you're next.
Mr. B, dead isn't a problem. Collapsed and wounded, on the other hand...
Whilst a cat will eat your face, a dog will bark for help. Except for a border collie, who will call the emergency services, giving a concise summary of the incident and a preliminary prognosis.
Mr. StClare, indeed, worsened by the fact she isn't yet spayed and has an excess of teeth (literally, both her adult and puppy fangs are in residence, side-by-side. Both their removal and her spaying will occur tomorrow).
Mr. Llama, the hound gets quite enough attention. A firm hand is needed to help teach a pup to leave someone alone when they're eating, or suchlike. Give a dog all the attention it wants, whenever it wants it, and you'll find that the dog owns you, rather than vice versa.
[Her predecessor's predecessor did once utterly destroy a light wooden bin, spreading its many pieces across the floor. In that hound's defence, she was a rescue dog and came from an unsuitable previous owner. Also, Kai chewed through the burglar alarm wire when he was a pup].
Perhaps because I have only ever lived with cats and people I have never got into this ownership thing. Similarly I have trouble understanding the concept of pets. An animal who lives with me must earn his or her keep and we will come to a mutual understanding through learning to communicate with each other (Mr. B provides a fine example of mutual understanding and communication up thread).
Well, obviously, if you live with cats you don't understand the concept of ownership. Cats don't have owners. They have staff.
There's another major difference between cats and dogs. I found it out from a book written by a retired Chief Medical Officer from California.
If you die alone in your house, a dog will pine and stay close to you. A cat just needs to eat and once the food plate is empty, you're next.
The vast majority of Russia's air strikes have been against anti-Assad rebels, not ISIS.
Unlike the coalition, Russia has never categorised terrorists according to arm bands. They went in fully stating that they intended to attack all terrorists in the country, but were open to cooperation with 'patriotic' rebels fighting ISIS, which they have been - they have had contact with those elements of the FSA still fighting ISIS, and have worked with them accordingly. To say they went in only after ISIS is a distortion, and begs the question, is Al Nusra not a legitimate target? Do you want the perpetrators of 9-11 to control swathes of Syria?
Even as one of a panoply of targets, I'd wager the Russians have struck ISIS more frequently than the US has been doing. The US was mounting an average of 7 airstrikes a day. Compared with 800 a day against Saddam. ISIS only started to lose terroritory and fall back after Russia began its attacks. Before them they were rampant.
Of those 7 US strikes per day, almost half return with their bombs still on the racks, because of incredibly strict rules of engagement. So effectively it's 3-4 strikes per day.
This drama could be worse than the previous one for the SNP. Property deals are complicated; everyone understands £30k going missing. And while losing one MP may be regarded as a misfortune...
Mr. B, dead isn't a problem. Collapsed and wounded, on the other hand...
Whilst a cat will eat your face, a dog will bark for help. Except for a border collie, who will call the emergency services, giving a concise summary of the incident and a preliminary prognosis.
But depending on which border it will sound either like Max Boyce or Billy Connolly...
Saw her berthed at Greenwich a couple of years ago. Impressive sight.
HMS Ocean, the "Flagship of the Royal Navy", is to be decommissioned after a multi-million pound refit.
The Ministry of Defence (MoD) confirmed the move would happen in 2018, when HMS Ocean will have "reached the end of her life", despite no mention of it in Monday's Strategic Defence and Security Review.
The Devonport-based helicopter carrier and assault ship, which is Britain's biggest warship, underwent a £65m upgrade in 2014.
Mr. StClare, indeed, worsened by the fact she isn't yet spayed and has an excess of teeth (literally, both her adult and puppy fangs are in residence, side-by-side. Both their removal and her spaying will occur tomorrow).
Mr. Llama, the hound gets quite enough attention. A firm hand is needed to help teach a pup to leave someone alone when they're eating, or suchlike. Give a dog all the attention it wants, whenever it wants it, and you'll find that the dog owns you, rather than vice versa.
[Her predecessor's predecessor did once utterly destroy a light wooden bin, spreading its many pieces across the floor. In that hound's defence, she was a rescue dog and came from an unsuitable previous owner. Also, Kai chewed through the burglar alarm wire when he was a pup].
Perhaps because I have only ever lived with cats and people I have never got into this ownership thing. Similarly I have trouble understanding the concept of pets. An animal who lives with me must earn his or her keep and we will come to a mutual understanding through learning to communicate with each other (Mr. B provides a fine example of mutual understanding and communication up thread).
Well, obviously, if you live with cats you don't understand the concept of ownership. Cats don't have owners. They have staff.
There's another major difference between cats and dogs. I found it out from a book written by a retired Chief Medical Officer from California.
If you die alone in your house, a dog will pine and stay close to you. A cat just needs to eat and once the food plate is empty, you're next.
The vast majority of Russia's air strikes have been against anti-Assad rebels, not ISIS.
Unlike the coalition, Russia has never categorised terrorists according to arm bands. They went in fully stating that they intended to attack all terrorists in the country, but were open to cooperation with 'patriotic' rebels fighting ISIS, which they have been - they have had contact with those elements of the FSA still fighting ISIS, and have worked with them accordingly. To say they went in only after ISIS is a distortion, and begs the question, is Al Nusra not a legitimate target? Do you want the perpetrators of 9-11 to control swathes of Syria?
Even as one of a panoply of targets, I'd wager the Russians have struck ISIS more frequently than the US has been doing. The US was mounting an average of 7 airstrikes a day. Compared with 800 a day against Saddam. ISIS only started to lose terroritory and fall back after Russia began its attacks. Before them they were rampant.
Of those 7 US strikes per day, almost half return with their bombs still on the racks, because of incredibly strict rules of engagement. So effectively it's 3-4 strikes per day.
US Strikes are running at about 6% civilian casualties from the total casualty count. Russian strikes around 30%. Assad's strikes, who Russia are coordinating with so sometimes making it hard to distinguish between them and Russia, are pretty much all civilian.
Euan mccolm is what passes for a journalist in the deadwood media in Scotland. He is a bitter and committed unionist with little or no ability to comment from anything other than that viewpoint. He makes many posters on this site look impartial.
My view on the Nats is that they are setting too high standards for themselves. I have no knowledge of this McGarry case but I had a detailed look at the Michelle Thomson case. On the basis of my understanding there was no issue where there should have been any resignation of the the whip unless and until there were charges. I would be astonished if there are.
Compared to the current bullying scandal engulfing the Tories where there is no hint of resignation from the several MPs rumoured to be involved this all looks pretty tedious stuff. It may be of course that what is presumably the FM'S insistance on quick resignation is what the voters appreciate but it does set a very low bar.
However another approach would be the simple one. If charged resign the whip. If comvicted then resign from the party. No charge then no resignation.
Ambassador Andrei Lysenko: One of our MPs, an Alfa, was last reported in the area of the Edinburgh parliment. We have not heard from her for some time.
The vast majority of Russia's air strikes have been against anti-Assad rebels, not ISIS.
Unlike the coalition, Russia has never categorised terrorists according to arm bands. They went in fully stating that they intended to attack all terrorists in the country, but were open to cooperation with 'patriotic' rebels fighting ISIS, which they have been - they have had contact with those elements of the FSA still fighting ISIS, and have worked with them accordingly. To say they went in only after ISIS is a distortion, and begs the question, is Al Nusra not a legitimate target? Do you want the perpetrators of 9-11 to control swathes of Syria?
Even as one of a panoply of targets, I'd wager the Russians have struck ISIS more frequently than the US has been doing. The US was mounting an average of 7 airstrikes a day. Compared with 800 a day against Saddam. ISIS only started to lose terroritory and fall back after Russia began its attacks. Before them they were rampant.
Of those 7 US strikes per day, almost half return with their bombs still on the racks, because of incredibly strict rules of engagement. So effectively it's 3-4 strikes per day.
US Strikes are running at about 6% civilian casualties from the total casualty count. Russian strikes around 30%. Assad's strikes, who Russia are coordinating with so sometimes making it hard to distinguish between them and Russia, are pretty much all civilian.
I think you should provide some evidence for this assertion.
Forcing the issue of Trident onto the political agenda seems a pretty good day to me.
If the NATS had won the vote it would have removed one of their arguments for indy. As it is they have kept their argument and put Labour on the spot. Pretty good politics if you ask me.
Also the O'Hara guy spoke pretty well I thought. He may be one to watch.
@ScottyNational: Free in next Sunday's paper: A 10% off voucher for legal fees re police investigations (* only one voucher per sitting SNP MP per week)
Interesting New Statesman article about Oldham West & Royton, although the journalist makes a basic mistake in stating that the electorate is 26.5% Asian when that is the figure for the population as a whole including children.
Of course, what may happen is that McCluskey now says that his remarks were taken out of context – but he’s too clever an operator to make any remarks that aren’t entirely well-aimed and within context.
Mr. StClare, indeed, worsened by the fact she isn't yet spayed and has an excess of teeth (literally, both her adult and puppy fangs are in residence, side-by-side. Both their removal and her spaying will occur tomorrow).
Mr. Llama, the hound gets quite enough attention. A firm hand is needed to help teach a pup to leave someone alone when they're eating, or suchlike. Give a dog all the attention it wants, whenever it wants it, and you'll find that the dog owns you, rather than vice versa.
[Her predecessor's predecessor did once utterly destroy a light wooden bin, spreading its many pieces across the floor. In that hound's defence, she was a rescue dog and came from an unsuitable previous owner. Also, Kai chewed through the burglar alarm wire when he was a pup].
Perhaps because I have only ever lived with cats and people I have never got into this ownership thing. Similarly I have trouble understanding the concept of pets. An animal who lives with me must earn his or her keep and we will come to a mutual understanding through learning to communicate with each other (Mr. B provides a fine example of mutual understanding and communication up thread).
Well, obviously, if you live with cats you don't understand the concept of ownership. Cats don't have owners. They have staff.
There's another major difference between cats and dogs. I found it out from a book written by a retired Chief Medical Officer from California.
If you die alone in your house, a dog will pine and stay close to you. A cat just needs to eat and once the food plate is empty, you're next.
I've been bitten by a dog, but never by a cat.
I have scars on my backside from a Rottweiler, and on my legs from an alsatian and a spaniel - dogs think runners are game..:-(
Fortunately my blood is full of anti tetanus toxins from a 20 year old course of injections... The rottie was in S Africa and rather scary..fortunately its owner persuaded it to let go...
Ambassador Andrei Lysenko: One of our MPs, an Alfa, was last reported in the area of the Edinburgh parliment. We have not heard from her for some time.
Dr. Jeffrey Pelt: Andrei, you've lost another MP?
(apologies to the writer of Red October)
Captain Ramius: Give me a Panda, Vasili. One Panda only, please.
But you recite the same old arguments in every post. O'Hara was new to me and I thought he came across pretty well.
The other ones who look well above average are the ex Labour one Sheppard, the consultant Whitford, the lawyers Cherry and Ahmed-Sheik and the young lass from Aberdeen who asks pretty sharp questions I think.
Mr. StClare, indeed, worsened by the fact she isn't yet spayed and has an excess of teeth (literally, both her adult and puppy fangs are in residence, side-by-side. Both their removal and her spaying will occur tomorrow).
Mr. Llama, the hound gets quite enough attention. A firm hand is needed to help teach a pup to leave someone alone when they're eating, or suchlike. Give a dog all the attention it wants, whenever it wants it, and you'll find that the dog owns you, rather than vice versa.
[Her predecessor's predecessor did once utterly destroy a light wooden bin, spreading its many pieces across the floor. In that hound's defence, she was a rescue dog and came from an unsuitable previous owner. Also, Kai chewed through the burglar alarm wire when he was a pup].
Perhaps because I have only ever lived with cats and people I have never got into this ownership thing. Similarly I have trouble understanding the concept of pets. An animal who lives with me must earn his or her keep and we will come to a mutual understanding through learning to communicate with each other (Mr. B provides a fine example of mutual understanding and communication up thread).
Well, obviously, if you live with cats you don't understand the concept of ownership. Cats don't have owners. They have staff.
There's another major difference between cats and dogs. I found it out from a book written by a retired Chief Medical Officer from California.
If you die alone in your house, a dog will pine and stay close to you. A cat just needs to eat and once the food plate is empty, you're next.
I've been bitten by a dog, but never by a cat.
I have scars on my backside from a Rottweiler, and on my legs from an alsatian and a spaniel - dogs think runners are game..:-(
Fortunately my blood is full of anti tetanus toxins from a 20 year old course of injections... The rottie was in S Africa and rather scary..fortunately its owner persuaded it to let go...
I was bitten in India - it was my dad's cousin's guard dog!
Tetanus in my arm, plus SEVEN rabies shots in my stomach muscle in as many days. Could barely walk! And I was only 6 at the time...
"I also wonder whether the desire not to have to face up to the implications - if true - will mean that the French won't make a big thing of it, or not as big as they might. Hollande seems intent on going after IS rather than accusing Germany of having let in killers who murdered his citizens."
What's the significance? How would he have identified them as 'killers'. We don't have closed borders. I myself have travelled to the UK with people on Syrian Passports in the past. It's a total red herring to believe they couldn't have got access to France unless of course they had a terrorist record. The only passport that is very difficult is a Palestinian one
The argument that might be made would be that by inviting in anyone who was or claimed to a Syrian refugee without providing an effective mechanism for screening, Germany provided an easy route for anyone wishing to enter Europe for nefarious purposes.
Ambassador Andrei Lysenko: One of our MPs, an Alfa, was last reported in the area of the Edinburgh parliment. We have not heard from her for some time.
Dr. Jeffrey Pelt: Andrei, you've lost another MP?
(apologies to the writer of Red October)
Captain Ramius: Give me a Panda, Vasili. One Panda only, please.
It was repeated on the TV the other day. Watching it now, always reminds me of your comments on here.
Ambassador Andrei Lysenko: One of our MPs, an Alfa, was last reported in the area of the Edinburgh parliment. We have not heard from her for some time.
Dr. Jeffrey Pelt: Andrei, you've lost another MP?
(apologies to the writer of Red October)
Captain Ramius: Give me a Panda, Vasili. One Panda only, please.
It was repeated on the TV the other day. Watching it now, always reminds me of your comments on here.
Euan mccolm is what passes for a journalist in the deadwood media in Scotland. He is a bitter and committed unionist with little or no ability to comment from anything other than that viewpoint. He makes many posters on this site look impartial.
My view on the Nats is that they are setting too high standards for themselves. I have no knowledge of this McGarry case but I had a detailed look at the Michelle Thomson case. On the basis of my understanding there was no issue where there should have been any resignation of the the whip unless and until there were charges. I would be astonished if there are.
Compared to the current bullying scandal engulfing the Tories where there is no hint of resignation from the several MPs rumoured to be involved this all looks pretty tedious stuff. It may be of course that what is presumably the FM'S insistance on quick resignation is what the voters appreciate but it does set a very low bar.
However another approach would be the simple one. If charged resign the whip. If comvicted then resign from the party. No charge then no resignation.
They will still vote with SNP and when cleared return , no big deal. Meanwhile the Westminster mongrels would die before resigning, even when caught with hand in the till rather than a dubious allegation.
The vast majority of Russia's air strikes have been against anti-Assad rebels, not ISIS.
Unlike the coalition, Russia has never categorised terrorists according to arm bands. They went in fully stating that they intended to attack all terrorists in the country, but were open to cooperation with 'patriotic' rebels fighting ISIS, which they have been - they have had contact with those elements of the FSA still fighting ISIS, and have worked with them accordingly. To say they went in only after ISIS is a distortion, and begs the question, is Al Nusra not a legitimate target? Do you want the perpetrators of 9-11 to control swathes of Syria?
Even as one of a panoply of targets, I'd wager the Russians have struck ISIS more frequently than the US has been doing. The US was mounting an average of 7 airstrikes a day. Compared with 800 a day against Saddam. ISIS only started to lose terroritory and fall back after Russia began its attacks. Before them they were rampant.
I shed no tears for Al-Nusra getting lit up. They bloody dangerous mob.
Quite. But it doesn't stop the media attack line being 'Why aren't they just hitting ISIS?' as if the presence of such profound evil makes all the other pond life angelic souls who we should be supporting.
Who are the cuddly Syrian Liberal Democrats we are supposed to be supporting? Do they exist?
Saw her berthed at Greenwich a couple of years ago. Impressive sight.
HMS Ocean, the "Flagship of the Royal Navy", is to be decommissioned after a multi-million pound refit.
The Ministry of Defence (MoD) confirmed the move would happen in 2018, when HMS Ocean will have "reached the end of her life", despite no mention of it in Monday's Strategic Defence and Security Review.
The Devonport-based helicopter carrier and assault ship, which is Britain's biggest warship, underwent a £65m upgrade in 2014.
Another casualty of the ridiculous, bloated Supercarrier vanity project.
Why use a cheap, inexpensive, effective ship like Ocean when you can roll in a hideously expensive Supercarrier.
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The shooting of the pilots as they were parachuting down is probably more deplorable. Are we prepared to take these chances ?
Labour is now a 21st century rotten borough where votes are bought and sold, accepting that payment moved in the opposite direction in the old style rotten boroughs. I don't know what's worse.
Russia is bombing various groups, some allied to the West and doing so in support of Assad.
Russian objectives are not our objectives and they are careless about intruding on their neighbours. eg Ukraine.
These Russian planes were not bombing in support of the anti Assad rebels they were bombing the anti Assad rebels.
Putin and his apologists are all sick if they are trying to equate this to ISIS.
Is it now the case that one of them did not have a European passport and only got into France via Germany claiming to be a Syrian refugee?
Both are bad for Germany but the latter is much worse, I'd have thought.
I also wonder whether the desire not to have to face up to the implications - if true - will mean that the French won't make a big thing of it, or not as big as they might. Hollande seems intent on going after IS rather than accusing Germany of having let in killers who murdered his citizens.
Currently the Syrian bombing vote is again off, after being on again after Paris, after being off after the Russian involvement, after being on again when Corbyn got elected.
"The shooting of the pilots as they were parachuting down is probably more deplorable. Are we prepared to take these chances ?"
Is that what happened? I've not heard the latest news. If they were indeed killed under those circumstances the Turks better apologize quickly or I fear for them. All the Russians need are demos on the streets of Moscow and who knows what'll follow.
£1bn a year for the lifetime of the system. Less probably.
I never voted for Blair or Brown but I never once doubted their ability to do the basics of the job- to chair meetings,conduct policy reviews,oversee discipline in the party,speak to the media ,lead in the HOC and make decisions under pressure. They were men of substance and stature. I think the problem here is that the MPs know JC too well.They know that he is simply not up to it. He is the old office maverick who was always there muttering at his desk about the management but never taken seriously.He has been foisted on them and they resent it.
I think that they should come clean. They should tell the media about his basic competence to do the job. In fact I think that that is their duty. To us who have not worked with him and who do not know him beyond what we see of him on our TV screens it would be valuable to know -how bad is he? Over to you and your colleagues Mr Palmer.
Even as one of a panoply of targets, I'd wager the Russians have struck ISIS more frequently than the US has been doing. The US was mounting an average of 7 airstrikes a day. Compared with 800 a day against Saddam. ISIS only started to lose terroritory and fall back after Russia began its attacks. Before them they were rampant.
We must ask however just what use is Putins glamours 'war room' if it so blatantly puts planes into Turkish airspace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPY0X8SrLo
"I also wonder whether the desire not to have to face up to the implications - if true - will mean that the French won't make a big thing of it, or not as big as they might. Hollande seems intent on going after IS rather than accusing Germany of having let in killers who murdered his citizens."
What's the significance? How would he have identified them as 'killers'. We don't have closed borders. I myself have travelled to the UK with people on Syrian Passports in the past. It's a total red herring to believe they couldn't have got access to France unless of course they had a terrorist record. The only passport that is very difficult is a Palestinian one
That leaves 54 - which coincidently is the number of Scottish Championships Rangers have won.
How many planes does it take to do 800 bombing raids in a day?
http://www.wsj.com/articles/mark-gunzinger-and-john-stillion-the-unserious-air-war-against-isis-1413327871
Murdo Fraser @murdo_fraser 4m4 minutes ago
There are now as many ex-SNP MPs in Scotland as there are giant pandas...
"Genuine question: who are centre-left voters (and I am one) going to vote for if they don't live in Scotland?"
Pass
Whilst a cat will eat your face, a dog will bark for help. Except for a border collie, who will call the emergency services, giving a concise summary of the incident and a preliminary prognosis.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2011/07/would_your_dog_eat_your_dead_body.html
Saw her berthed at Greenwich a couple of years ago. Impressive sight.
HMS Ocean, the "Flagship of the Royal Navy", is to be decommissioned after a multi-million pound refit.
The Ministry of Defence (MoD) confirmed the move would happen in 2018, when HMS Ocean will have "reached the end of her life", despite no mention of it in Monday's Strategic Defence and Security Review.
The Devonport-based helicopter carrier and assault ship, which is Britain's biggest warship, underwent a £65m upgrade in 2014.
Is this another part of his rather odd world view?
After a debate in the Commons, MPs defeated an SNP motion opposing Trident's renewal by 330 votes to 64.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34911204
The Nats not having a good day...
"It pains me to say that Sweden is no longer able to accept the high number of asylum seekers we're seeing today. The situation is unsustainable."
http://www.thelocal.se/20151124/sweden-set-to-tighten-asylum-rules-for-refugees
https://twitter.com/fastFT/status/669180484442804225
Euan mccolm is what passes for a journalist in the deadwood media in Scotland. He is a bitter and committed unionist with little or no ability to comment from anything other than that viewpoint. He makes many posters on this site look impartial.
My view on the Nats is that they are setting too high standards for themselves. I have no knowledge of this McGarry case but I had a detailed look at the Michelle Thomson case. On the basis of my understanding there was no issue where there should have been any resignation of the the whip unless and until there were charges. I would be astonished if there are.
Compared to the current bullying scandal engulfing the Tories where there is no hint of resignation from the several MPs rumoured to be involved this all looks pretty tedious stuff. It may be of course that what is presumably the FM'S insistance on quick resignation is what the voters appreciate but it does set a very low bar.
However another approach would be the simple one. If charged resign the whip. If comvicted then resign from the party. No charge then no resignation.
Dr. Jeffrey Pelt: Andrei, you've lost another MP?
(apologies to the writer of Red October)
Are the tories about to lose one? I just saw on twitter heathrow decision is imminent.
Oh, wait...
Forcing the issue of Trident onto the political agenda seems a pretty good day to me.
If the NATS had won the vote it would have removed one of their arguments for indy. As it is they have kept their argument and put Labour on the spot. Pretty good politics if you ask me.
Also the O'Hara guy spoke pretty well I thought. He may be one to watch.
He recited his speech on the DP before the debate, and it was jibberish. It sounded even worse when he made it in the chamber.
It was embarrassing
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2015/11/road-oldham-west-and-royton-can-ukip-win
Surely not...
@MSmithsonPB: via @paulwaugh UNITE boss McCluskey says Corbyn has his "full support". Lucky Jez's not a Premier league manager https://t.co/jKdm5pN4aD
Fortunately my blood is full of anti tetanus toxins from a 20 year old course of injections... The rottie was in S Africa and rather scary..fortunately its owner persuaded it to let go...
But you recite the same old arguments in every post. O'Hara was new to me and I thought he came across pretty well.
The other ones who look well above average are the ex Labour one Sheppard, the consultant Whitford, the lawyers Cherry and Ahmed-Sheik and the young lass from Aberdeen who asks pretty sharp questions I think.
Tetanus in my arm, plus SEVEN rabies shots in my stomach muscle in as many days. Could barely walk! And I was only 6 at the time...
Has Nicola said she's a pretty straight kinda gal yet ?
Watching it now, always reminds me of your comments on here.
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Why use a cheap, inexpensive, effective ship like Ocean when you can roll in a hideously expensive Supercarrier.