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What a day. First there was the news that Cameron is to allow ministers freedom to campaign for LEAVE in EURef campaign… and Corbyn’s reshuffle is sending our reverberations that look set to make any form of reconciliation in the party nigh on impossible.
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Maybe I'm just naiive, but when given a free vote the MPs mostly backed their leader's position, and I don't think he's as isolated there now as we think, even if senior figures are thin on the ground.
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Former Chief of RAF says: "we're now in a different ballpark. There are hundreds of thousands of these things lying around, on scrapheaps..."
After all they have already declared war, they never cared if Corbyn would keep Benn or not (as the Dugher issue shows), they just want to fight him at all costs.
One thing though: I doubt they're getting them off 'scrapheaps'; surely they'd need to be kept in the dry at least?
On that note, it's years since I've been to Anchor Supplies or Silvermans ...
One can picture the scene. "If we get rid of that tory bastard Benn 8 other tories are going to walk from the shadow cabinet. We can't do it comrades."
"But we need to be seen to be doing something or we will look ridiculous" (self awareness not being a strong point).
"Who can we sack that not many people really care about? That fifth columnist Dugher, he doesn't have many friends and no one knows what the department of Culture does anyway. Let's sack him. That'll show we mean business and are not to be messed with."
"Who can replace him? How the hell do I know? That is tomorrow's problem."
If the state fails in its most basic task - as Germany would appear to have done, first, by letting such people in; second, failing to protect its citizens from criminals; and thirdly, failing to bring such criminals to justice - then it should not be surprised if citizens take the law into their own hands.
The Germans should be reminded of the outrage they and the rest of us felt when we learnt of the mass rapes of Bosnian Muslim women by Serbs during the Yugoslav civil wars. They should be equally outraged if the same crimes are perpetrated on them.
The protection of women from what is a most horrible crime is not some optional nice-to-have. Sadly, this seems to be a lesson which needs to be taught every few years.
Are we to believe that ISIS has the infrastructure and capacity to reactivate and retrofit these on a large scale? The failure rate if experts were doing it would be 75% at best.
More likely, someone with training is teaching how they work. Soviet equiped armies used MANPADS on an incredible scale. So expect a bunch of guys going through a pile of slightly dented SA-7/14 to find and patch the salvagable ones.
Then give them to the more expendable Jihadis to fire. If one blows up.. who cares?
Until now.
For all her undoubted successes and brilliant management of the German economy she is going to be remembered for the mistakes she has made on immigration and the consequences for her own people.
Cultural sensitivity is a complete bullshit phrase that needs to be stamped on and thrown out of our vocabulary. I'm not going to be sensitive towards those who have an inferior culture to our own.
The obvious response is for all women to wear a tent, and only go out in the company of male relative.
http://news.sky.com/story/1617229/is-bomb-skills-truly-the-stuff-of-nightmares
The discussion claimed ISIS had in fact found a way to make their own thermal batteries...
The chances of such changes working seem fairly remote and as you say, might blow up more of their own people than the enemy. Also, I'd be dubious about the electronics if they have not been stored well.
"@OwenJones84 If you are trying to rebuild an 18% economic competence rating it's probably best to look competent at something occasionally."
But i fear it will take much tougher measures than I think she is willing to politically accept to stop the migration flows in their tracks now.
She has opened Pandora's box.
What they need to - and don't - understand is that the freedoms which allow women to do what they want, including getting pissed and fall into the gutter after having given blow jobs to the local light infantry (if that is what they want to do) are the same freedoms which have resulted in us having a stable, free and economically prosperous society which is so attractive to the migrants. You can't have one without the other.
The freedom to do what you want is indivisible from the freedom to think what you want, to say what you want, to ask "why" and "why not", to invent, to create, to change and to refuse to accept that you have discovered all possible human knowledge and that there is nothing more to learn and that therefore nothing must change.
As I said at the time the vote on bombing in Syria was the largest amount of self important delusional piffle that our frankly weird ruling class has come up with for a while. Warfare by gesture to make us feel good and important. Sad and pathetic really.
That being said, CDU + SPD currently gets 60%, so hard to see a scenario where a grand coalition is not possible.
You'd have thought the Germans, of all peoples, would understand that.
Bit like being surprised that someone can get a cement mixer, fertilizer and diesel fuel together.
'Whether Cologne is the same I don't know but if it is it would explain why the reaction there isn't as hysterical as it is on here'
Cologne was (until medieval man arrived) a very pleasant mid sized German city with its massive cathedral that somehow avoided the allied bombing, there is no red light area around the station.
If you had taken the trouble to actually read the articles I think even you would have realized how disturbed people were from the mayor downwards with this barbaric behavior.
No coincidence that both Sweden & Denmark abandoned Schengen yesterday.
I'm not sure I see any German political party willing to do that.
Western post-colonial guilt runs very deep.
Think on it the other way round. How long before sub-national groups can have fun with the Jihadis?
CDU + FDP + AfD?
SPD + Linke + Greens?
Increasing fragmentation means ever more unstable coalitions, and an inability to make difficult necessary reforms.
'But that rather begs the question. Why permit these people to immigrate into your country at all, unless you actually seek its destruction? '
A politician desperate for a legacy influenced by a sensational media ?
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The paradox is that we give the impression, as a society, that we don't value women and those from societies where men's honour is, at least in part, carried by "pure" women, take their cue from that and their own idea of women, as people who are not actors in their own right, in charge of their own lives, but simply a vehicle for others - as either the "pure" woman, keeper of the family's "honour" or as a slut to be used for sex and nothing else.
What was he thinking? Was he thinking?
BIt like some Labour party types who try and "blame" Cameron for the independence referendum. They actually seem to believe that it would have been less risky from a Unionist point of view to deny the Scots a vote.
If he insisted on ministerial support he'd have had to sack the likes of IDS, Grayling and perhaps Patel and Hammond too.
Which begs the question: which Conservatives does he replace them with?
He'd have had to find at least semi-competent Tory backbenchers that supported the PMs line to promote in their place. And there aren't too many of those.
Meanwhile it'd have done everything possible to split the party by putting all serious eurosceptics outside the Government.
Heseltine was totally wrong. This way Cameron keeps his government and party together and allows those who distrust or disagree with the EU in principle to let their views be known without being disloyal.
The majority of our Muslims are Sunnis from the Pakistani countryside brought over for cheap labour.
The difference is vast.
'If I or my daughter were assaulted by rapists and the police refused to or failed to take any action against the attackers, I would take my own revenge on them. I would be quite capable of killing anyone who harmed my daughter.
If the state fails in its most basic task - as Germany would appear to have done, first, by letting such people in; second, failing to protect its citizens from criminals; and thirdly, failing to bring such criminals to justice - then it should not be surprised if citizens take the law into their own hands.
The Germans should be reminded of the outrage they and the rest of us felt when we learnt of the mass rapes of Bosnian Muslim women by Serbs during the Yugoslav civil wars. They should be equally outraged if the same crimes are perpetrated on them.
The protection of women from what is a most horrible crime is not some optional nice-to-have. Sadly, this seems to be a lesson which needs to be taught every few years.'
Like a lot.
But in the culture wars race trumps gender every time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qassam_rocket
Guidance is the biggest problem. The article makes it sound as if they've taken a 'dumb' rocket as fitted to planes / helicopters and added a guidance package: IR homing 'radar' to make an improvised SAM. That sounds remarkably dodgy.
The other part about the replacement batteries would not surprise me, although it might be more involved than just recreating the voltage and amperage.
There are three and only three questions to be asked when deciding whether to let people into the country:-
1. Do we need immigrants?
2. Do we need this class / group of / this individual immigrant?
And this has to depend not just on their skills - people are not just economic units - but on whether they are willing and capable of becoming English or German or whatever, which is something more than holding a passport. It means shedding in considerable part their old life and attitudes and embracing new ones and we are entitled to judge this on the basis of how successful or otherwise immigration from that same group has been in the past and whether increasing the numbers of that group will aid or hold back integration.
3. If they turn out not be a good immigrant, can we send them back?
Sentimentality rarely leads to good judgment.
Merkel will be remembered as the woman who opened the door to extremists and terrorists. Her reputation has been irreparably damaged by the migrant crisis and her reaction to it.
Even the NYT has changed its tune:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/21/world/europe/hungary-viktor-orban-migrant-crisis.html?_r=2
"George Konrad, a distinguished novelist, loathes his country’s stridently illiberal prime minister, Viktor Orban.
“He is not a good democrat and I don’t believe he is a good person,” said Mr. Konrad, a veteran of communist-era struggles against dictatorship."
“It hurts to admit it, but on this point Orban was right,” Mr. Konrad, 82, "
A very critical article on the EU/Merkel stance from a bastion of the left, one which praises Orban, an ultra right quasi-dictator.
Germany is as you describe. The UK isn't. Try giving someone a blow job in a public place in the UK (if that's what you want to do) and you'll find yourself in jail. Even cycling naked without the blow job will see you incarcerated! It's got better but we're a long way from the place you're describing
I feel the opposite about Osborne.
I brought it up with a few friends of my partner who consider themselves feminists and do all of that stuff, why do feminists go easy on Muslim crime against women/girls. Honour killings, FGM, rape and child sexual abuse are all rife within the Muslim community and all of those crimes disproportionately or are exclusively perpetrated against women/girls and nothing. Their answer was "we can't win that battle, there is no interest within any major political party to solve any of those issues so we fight the battles we can win". Pathetic. If the suffragettes had thought that way it would have taken 50 more years for women to get the vote.
A cousin of mine (a senior bod at Barclays) lit some rockets for his daughter's birthday recently. Didn't realise that the stick was supposed to rest on the ground, not be stuck in it.
Nearly took the roof off
We take the view that women are in charge of their own lives, are sexual beings and can make their own sexual choices, that they can "do" as well as "be done to". We take the view that they are not mere appendages to others, that they are not there to keep and transmit the family's "honour" while the men behave however they like. We are revolted at the idea that rape could be used as a punishment because some man's honour has been impugned, at the idea that "honour" is about appearances rather than the reality.
Freedom for women is essential to a free society. It is one reason why one of the first things that those societies that turn their back on Western liberal freedoms do is to remove and/or restrict women's freedom and their right to education and their rights to do as they like with their own bodies, with their lives. They understand how dangerous such freedoms are to those who would exercise control and power. They are scared and, like the scared the world over, they try and lash out, using verbal and actual violence.
It's strange. I'm a feminist, and I know (surprise, surprise) other feminists who are critical of rape and sexual assault irregardless of the ethnic background of the rapist. Yet according to PB 'feminists' in general are only/mainly critical of privileged white men when it comes to rape and sexual assault? The internet is not the place to go when you want a to see how representative a POV is. Looking at the DM comments section on SPOTY and looking at the actual vote is one example of that.
I know Corbyn must be bad if even my mum, who has turned left in the last year or so has turned against him. I'd really love to know how his supporters still think his leadership will bring good things for the Labour party. If there is a time where many people need a strong opposition it's now.
On Merkel, well I'm sure her legacy isn't going to be defined by some people on PB.
Yes, alleged leaders of feminism in this country. Or the notable "feminist" who claimed that a crackdown on FGM was un-necessary and racist.
It almost like there was a pattern there or something.