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Looking at the above tweets it is clear that the Tory plan for winning the London Mayoral contest is to portray Sadiq Khan as Corbyn’s man in London. This makes sense given the dire personal polling Corbyn has, coupled with some of his more interesting policy positions and comments should be a negative for Khan.

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Innocent_Abroad

First?

TheScreamingEagles

Geek badge if you can spot my subtle Star Trek reference

Scott_P

Clearly Corbyn is an electoral liability...

@BuzzFeedUKPol: SNP MP Blasts Jeremy Corbyn For Drinking Irn Bru “With A Silly Grin” https://t.co/5c2f1ZWKcR https://t.co/jGwUWz9lkn

Innocent_Abroad

Shouldn't Tory councils be allowed to evict those social housing tenants who fail to vote Tory?

MP_SE

Second like Goldsmith, unfortunately...

Edit: FFS, too slow.

rottenborough

Curse of the new thread: Snap General Election this autumn, a Labour MP muses:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435885/Jeremy-Corbyn-told-prepare-General-Election-year-amid-fears-David-Cameron-resign-EU-referendum.html

rottenborough

Wrath of Khan?

TheWhiteRabbit

The problem is, if they make London a symbol the national picture (which it isn't) and Khan wins, that might undermine them

Charles

rottenborough said:

Curse of the new thread: Snap General Election this autumn, a Labour MP muses:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435885/Jeremy-Corbyn-told-prepare-General-Election-year-amid-fears-David-Cameron-resign-EU-referendum.html

Why would they jeopardise the boundary review?

After all we are still working on the basis of the 2001 census (until 2018 I believe)

TheScreamingEagles

rottenborough said:

Wrath of Khan?

Well done.

rottenborough

TheScreamingEagles said:

rottenborough said:

Wrath of Khan?

Well done.

Thx. I didn't realise I was such a geek.

SouthamObserver

Khan's campaign has been surprisingly good. He has made big efforts to reach out to constituencies that Livingstone treated with contempt (and that Corbyn does too). He has also managed to attract active support from across the Labour party. In short, he is running a very unCorbyn-like campaign.

However, Corbyn is a millstone around his neck, as are his previous comments on quotas. I thought a while back that Goldsmith would be a shoe-in. His lacklustre campaign, combined with Khan's pro-activeness may mean that is no longer the case. But it will be extremely close.

rottenborough

Charles said:

rottenborough said:

Curse of the new thread: Snap General Election this autumn, a Labour MP muses:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435885/Jeremy-Corbyn-told-prepare-General-Election-year-amid-fears-David-Cameron-resign-EU-referendum.html

Why would they jeopardise the boundary review?

After all we are still working on the basis of the 2001 census (until 2018 I believe)

Seems all highly unlikely. I guess the Mail will quote any Lab MP they can find who says anything that causes more turbulence within the party at the moment.

SimonStClare

"that comment earned the Prime Minister the wrath of Khan" - subtle ain't what it used to be.

rottenborough

For a start if the ref votes to Leave, there will be two years of chaos in UK as we negotiate the way out. Imagine throwing in a General Election into that mess.

SouthamObserver

TheScreamingEagles said:

Geek badge if you can spot my subtle Star Trek reference

It's about as subtle as a slap round the face with an iron bar. Even I can see it and I have never watched any Star Trek episode or film all the way through.

CarlottaVance

SouthamObserver said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Geek badge if you can spot my subtle Star Trek reference

It's about as subtle as a slap round the face with an iron bar. Even I can see it and I have never watched any Star Trek episode or film all the way through.

What he said.

Even I spotted it.....

Charles

rottenborough said:

Charles said:

rottenborough said:

Curse of the new thread: Snap General Election this autumn, a Labour MP muses:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435885/Jeremy-Corbyn-told-prepare-General-Election-year-amid-fears-David-Cameron-resign-EU-referendum.html

Why would they jeopardise the boundary review?

After all we are still working on the basis of the 2001 census (until 2018 I believe)

Seems all highly unlikely. I guess the Mail will quote any Lab MP they can find who says anything that causes more turbulence within the party at the moment.

Wasn't Toby Perkins Liz Kendall's campaign manager?

I don't really know, but I seem to recall @bigjohnowls saying less than complimentary things about him

Verulamius

Charles said:

rottenborough said:

Curse of the new thread: Snap General Election this autumn, a Labour MP muses:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435885/Jeremy-Corbyn-told-prepare-General-Election-year-amid-fears-David-Cameron-resign-EU-referendum.html

Why would they jeopardise the boundary review?

After all we are still working on the basis of the 2001 census (until 2018 I believe)

Charles

The position is slightly worse, as the current boundaries are based on the electoral registers as at 17 February 2000. There is no linkage in the UK to the census as the constituencies are based on eligible registered voters rather than population.

The next review is about to start this spring and will be based on the December 2015 electoral registers; hence the fuss Labour has been making on individual registration and the reduction in registered voters in their urban heartland.

Charles

CarlottaVance said:

SouthamObserver said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Geek badge if you can spot my subtle Star Trek reference

It's about as subtle as a slap round the face with an iron bar. Even I can see it and I have never watched any Star Trek episode or film all the way through.

What he said.

Even I spotted it.....

I didn't even have the read the piece to know what it would be...

SquareRoot

Too easy TSE, that's the sort of easy question they ask to get you going on Who wants to be a Millionaire... but theres always one who goes away empty handed....

CarlottaVance

I guess the question is whether Khan can take New Generations of Londoners Beyond, across the Final Frontier Into Darkness and Undiscovered Country before he meets his Nemesis when London can start the Voyage Home

Charles

Verulamius said:

Charles said:

rottenborough said:

Curse of the new thread: Snap General Election this autumn, a Labour MP muses:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435885/Jeremy-Corbyn-told-prepare-General-Election-year-amid-fears-David-Cameron-resign-EU-referendum.html

Why would they jeopardise the boundary review?

After all we are still working on the basis of the 2001 census (until 2018 I believe)

Charles

The position is slightly worse, as the current boundaries are based on the electoral registers as at 17 February 2000. There is no linkage in the UK to the census as the constituencies are based on eligible registered voters rather than population.

The next review is about to start this spring and will be based on the December 2015 electoral registers; hence the fuss Labour has been making on individual registration and the reduction in registered voters in their urban heartland.

Sure, but the current set up favours Labour, so it is in no way wrong.

You have to remember the rule that "Labour benefits" = good while "removal of bias" = gerrymandering.

SouthamObserver

Charles said:

Verulamius said:

Charles said:

rottenborough said:

Curse of the new thread: Snap General Election this autumn, a Labour MP muses:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435885/Jeremy-Corbyn-told-prepare-General-Election-year-amid-fears-David-Cameron-resign-EU-referendum.html

Why would they jeopardise the boundary review?

After all we are still working on the basis of the 2001 census (until 2018 I believe)

Charles

The position is slightly worse, as the current boundaries are based on the electoral registers as at 17 February 2000. There is no linkage in the UK to the census as the constituencies are based on eligible registered voters rather than population.

The next review is about to start this spring and will be based on the December 2015 electoral registers; hence the fuss Labour has been making on individual registration and the reduction in registered voters in their urban heartland.

Sure, but the current set up favours Labour, so it is in no way wrong.

You have to remember the rule that "Labour benefits" = good while "removal of bias" = gerrymandering.

The Tories got over 50% of the seats on 37% of the vote last May. The changes they are introducing will increase the current bias in a system that already works in their favour. Let's not pretend that fairness has anything to do with it.

SouthamObserver

CarlottaVance said:

I guess the question is whether Khan can take New Generations of Londoners Beyond, across the Final Frontier Into Darkness and Undiscovered Country before he meets his Nemesis when London can start the Voyage Home

I Feel For You.

Now that is obscure.

SquareRoot

CarlottaVance said:

I guess the question is whether Khan can take New Generations of Londoners Beyond, across the Final Frontier Into Darkness and Undiscovered Country before he meets his Nemesis when London can start the Voyage Home

Generations of Londoners will not permit Khan to win. If by chance he does, there will be an Insurrection followed by Nemesis

SquareRoot

SouthamObserver said:

Charles said:

Verulamius said:

Charles said:

rottenborough said:

Curse of the new thread: Snap General Election this autumn, a Labour MP muses:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435885/Jeremy-Corbyn-told-prepare-General-Election-year-amid-fears-David-Cameron-resign-EU-referendum.html

Why would they jeopardise the boundary review?

After all we are still working on the basis of the 2001 census (until 2018 I believe)

Charles

The position is slightly worse, as the current boundaries are based on the electoral registers as at 17 February 2000. There is no linkage in the UK to the census as the constituencies are based on eligible registered voters rather than population.

The next review is about to start this spring and will be based on the December 2015 electoral registers; hence the fuss Labour has been making on individual registration and the reduction in registered voters in their urban heartland.

Sure, but the current set up favours Labour, so it is in no way wrong.

You have to remember the rule that "Labour benefits" = good while "removal of bias" = gerrymandering.

The Tories got over 50% of the seats on 37% of the vote last May. The changes they are introducing will increase the current bias in a system that already works in their favour. Let's not pretend that fairness has anything to do with it.

Huh.. Where were you when Labour won thumping majorities on a lesser vote share.

Pulpstar

TheWhiteRabbit said:

The problem is, if they make London a symbol the national picture (which it isn't) and Khan wins, that might undermine them

The only people that undermines are Danczuk, Kendall, Woodcock, Mann and various other Labour moderates. Corbynistas and Tories will be delighted for Corbyn to be seen to be having a decent may.

Moses_

TheScreamingEagles said:

Geek badge if you can spot my subtle Star Trek reference

rottenborough said:

Wrath of Khan?

Wrats of Khan ?

Sean_F

Labour ought to win the Mayoralty. There's actually been a swing from the Conservatives to Labour in London, since 2005.

We'll probably see Labour lose ground in the less high profile contests.

Pulpstar

If anyone still thinks Khan has "No chance" in London then you can more than double your money by backing Zac at 3.6 and laying Khan at 1.43 on Betfair.

NickPalmer

Charles said:

rottenborough said:

Curse of the new thread: Snap General Election this autumn, a Labour MP muses:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435885/Jeremy-Corbyn-told-prepare-General-Election-year-amid-fears-David-Cameron-resign-EU-referendum.html

Why would they jeopardise the boundary review?

After all we are still working on the basis of the 2001 census (until 2018 I believe)

To be fair, it'd be good news for incumbents, which (a) probably does give a bonus, and most are currently Tories and (b) would be welcomed by, uh, incumbents. I don't think anyone wants an election in 2016, but in 2017 I coiuld imagine New Leader X wanting a mandate. In 2020, sitting MPs will have new seats to worry about.

williamglenn

TheScreamingEagles said:

Geek badge if you can spot my subtle Star Trek reference

After you trailed its subtlety I was expecting something as simple as a split-infinitive.

isam

SouthamObserver said:

CarlottaVance said:

I guess the question is whether Khan can take New Generations of Londoners Beyond, across the Final Frontier Into Darkness and Undiscovered Country before he meets his Nemesis when London can start the Voyage Home

I Feel For You.

Now that is obscure.

The Umunna-Sadiq dream ticket?

That would be a feast of puns, esp if they didn't see eye to eye after a few months

SouthamObserver

SquareRoot said:

SouthamObserver said:

Charles said:

Verulamius said:

Charles said:

rottenborough said:

Curse of the new thread: Snap General Election this autumn, a Labour MP muses:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435885/Jeremy-Corbyn-told-prepare-General-Election-year-amid-fears-David-Cameron-resign-EU-referendum.html

Why would they jeopardise the boundary review?

After all we are still working on the basis of the 2001 census (until 2018 I believe)

Charles

The position is slightly worse, as the current boundaries are based on the electoral registers as at 17 February 2000. There is no linkage in the UK to the census as the constituencies are based on eligible registered voters rather than population.

The next review is about to start this spring and will be based on the December 2015 electoral registers; hence the fuss Labour has been making on individual registration and the reduction in registered voters in their urban heartland.

Sure, but the current set up favours Labour, so it is in no way wrong.

You have to remember the rule that "Labour benefits" = good while "removal of bias" = gerrymandering.

The Tories got over 50% of the seats on 37% of the vote last May. The changes they are introducing will increase the current bias in a system that already works in their favour. Let's not pretend that fairness has anything to do with it.

Huh.. Where were you when Labour won thumping majorities on a lesser vote share.

Advocating electoral reform. Always have, always will.

viewcode

@TheScreamingEagles

"...that comment earned the Prime Minister the wrath of Khan..."

Call that a Star Trek reference? Pah! I would have thrown in a Klingon proverb and two Moby Dick speeches...

SouthamObserver

isam said:

SouthamObserver said:

CarlottaVance said:

I guess the question is whether Khan can take New Generations of Londoners Beyond, across the Final Frontier Into Darkness and Undiscovered Country before he meets his Nemesis when London can start the Voyage Home

I Feel For You.

Now that is obscure.

The Umunna-Sadiq dream ticket?

That would be a feast of puns, esp if they didn't see eye to eye after a few months

Very good.

isam

SouthamObserver said:

isam said:

SouthamObserver said:

CarlottaVance said:

I guess the question is whether Khan can take New Generations of Londoners Beyond, across the Final Frontier Into Darkness and Undiscovered Country before he meets his Nemesis when London can start the Voyage Home

I Feel For You.

Now that is obscure.

The Umunna-Sadiq dream ticket?

That would be a feast of puns, esp if they didn't see eye to eye after a few months

Very good.

What would the headline be if that combo got rid of underperforming staff with no thought for their feelings?

Indigo

It must be pantomine season, who are we to believe today ?

Thatchers foreign affairs private secretary "Oh yes she would!"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/07/margaret-thatcher-would-have-voted-stay-in-eu-lord-powell

or her official biographer "Oh No She Wouldn't!"

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/02/sorry-but-margaret-thatcher-would-not-have-voted-to-stay-in-the-eu/

dr_spyn

Chris Bryant trying to raise Labour's profile in Wales.

https://twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/696341790430011392

Textual analysis of rugby songs for beginners.

DavidL

I live a long way from London and have no insight into the local campaigns but from what I see in the national press and indeed on here I really cannot believe this is going to be close. Goldsmith seems to be turning out as bad a candidate as I feared and Kahn seems to have the formidable London Labour machine right behind him. He also really and unequivocally seems to want it. Kahn by 10 would be my guess.

As a Tory I can console myself with the idea that Kahn's victory will tempt Labour to keep Corbyn after all and also the thought that Zac would be a bloody nuisance as mayor holding up the inevitable Heathrow expansion even longer.

viewcode

SouthamObserver said:

CarlottaVance said:

I guess the question is whether Khan can take New Generations of Londoners Beyond, across the Final Frontier Into Darkness and Undiscovered Country before he meets his Nemesis when London can start the Voyage Home

I Feel For You.

Now that is obscure.

Okay, I give up. Google yields several possibilities but no definitive answer. Explain please?

MTimT

williamglenn said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Geek badge if you can spot my subtle Star Trek reference

After you trailed its subtlety I was expecting something as simple as a split-infinitive.

On joining the FCO, I had the split infinitive beaten out of me. But I am letting it creep back in where it is the best form to express the concept being communicated. There is no particular logic for disapproving of it and avoiding it leads to horrible contortions.

While I still think 'to go boldly' is better than 'to boldly go', how else would you word 'is expected to more than double' in any way as succinct, comprehensible and easy to say?

Plato_Says

How depressing

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/12145127/Charity-watchdog-examining-serious-concerns-over-veterans-charity.html

The UK’s charity watchdog is looking into “serious concerns” about aspects of the care of wounded servicemen at the UK’s biggest veterans’ charity, Help For Heroes.

It follows claims that one serviceman became distressed after medical information about him was allegedly passed on beyond the immediate team caring for him.

In another case an Army Reserve officer who volunteered at the charity is said to have sought psychiatric help because he was so “demoralised”, according to claims outlined in the Mail on Sunday.

MarqueeMark

Michael D Higgins is tiny! He really is a Leprechaun....

Steven_Whaley

I've no wish to derail this new thread but I'd just like to say on record that I've just read @Casino_Royale 's very kind and generous apology to me on the previous thread. I reciprocate and apologise for my part in what happened and the offense caused to him and to anyone else who was upset by my choice of words.

Thanks.

OK, moving on...

Charles

SouthamObserver said:

Charles said:

Verulamius said:

Charles said:

rottenborough said:

Curse of the new thread: Snap General Election this autumn, a Labour MP muses:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435885/Jeremy-Corbyn-told-prepare-General-Election-year-amid-fears-David-Cameron-resign-EU-referendum.html

Why would they jeopardise the boundary review?

After all we are still working on the basis of the 2001 census (until 2018 I believe)

Charles

The position is slightly worse, as the current boundaries are based on the electoral registers as at 17 February 2000. There is no linkage in the UK to the census as the constituencies are based on eligible registered voters rather than population.

The next review is about to start this spring and will be based on the December 2015 electoral registers; hence the fuss Labour has been making on individual registration and the reduction in registered voters in their urban heartland.

Sure, but the current set up favours Labour, so it is in no way wrong.

You have to remember the rule that "Labour benefits" = good while "removal of bias" = gerrymandering.

The Tories got over 50% of the seats on 37% of the vote last May. The changes they are introducing will increase the current bias in a system that already works in their favour. Let's not pretend that fairness has anything to do with it.

The 50/37 split is a feature not a bug

But the system itself is biased towards one of the larger two parties. It should treat any party that achieves 37% broadly the same.

FrancisUrquhart

dr_spyn said:

Chris Bryant trying to raise Labour's profile in Wales.

https://twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/696341790430011392

Textual analysis of rugby songs for beginners.

God he isn't still banging on about this is he? WTF is wrong with politicians. We have a migrant crisis, ISIS, Iran, North Korea, etc etc etc, nope its all about Red doors, Festival Wristbands, TeaCakes, Swarms, Bunches and songs to sing at the Rugby...

logical_song

The Tories are attacking Khan because doesn't rebel and agrees with the Labour leader 'on many occasions'
That's a bit weak isn't it? You can almost hear the rest of the sentence "There will be many occasions when I agree with Jeremy Corbyn..." BUT...

Didn't take long to find this:
"There will be occasions when frankly speaking I disagree with Jeremy,” he says, naming support for a new runway at Gatwick, a belief that businesses can drive job growth and prosperity and “unequivocal” backing of a reformed European Union as key points of difference.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/12103480/Sadiq-Khan-Pick-me-as-next-London-Mayor.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

FrancisUrquhart

Awesome, just what we need...

ABOUT 70% of Muslim prison chaplains espouse a hardline interpretation of Islam that runs contrary to British values and human rights, an independent review has discovered.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1665618.ece

Indigo

FrancisUrquhart said:

dr_spyn said:

Chris Bryant trying to raise Labour's profile in Wales.

https://twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/696341790430011392

Textual analysis of rugby songs for beginners.

God he isn't still banging on about this is he? WTF is wrong with politicians. We have a migrant crisis, ISIS, Iran, North Korea, etc etc etc, nope its all about Red doors, Festival Wristbands, TeaCakes, Swarms, Bunches and songs to sing at the Rugby...

Most talented people do something else which gets more respect from the public, probably pays better, and doesn't cause journos to crawl all over your personal life... which leaves you with people that obsess about the lyrics of rugby songs... or think they can negotiate....

Mortimer

FrancisUrquhart said:

Awesome, just what we need...

ABOUT 70% of Muslim prison chaplains espouse a hardline interpretation of Islam that runs contrary to British values and human rights, an independent review has discovered.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1665618.ece

Wow - I didn't even know there were Muslim prison chaplains....

Any stats on conversion in jails?

FrancisUrquhart

Jamie Oliver indicates he will campaign to kick Tories from office if they fail over childhood obesity

TV chef and healthy eating campaigner says ministers should be put 'out of power as soon as possible' if they fall short on plans

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/12145041/Jamie-Oliver-indicates-he-will-campaign-to-kick-Tories-from-office-if-they-fail-over-childhood-obesity.html

Maybe Jamie hasn't head, there is this thing called fixed term parliaments...

oldpolitics

Mortimer said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Awesome, just what we need...

ABOUT 70% of Muslim prison chaplains espouse a hardline interpretation of Islam that runs contrary to British values and human rights, an independent review has discovered.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1665618.ece

Wow - I didn't even know there were Muslim prison chaplains....

Any stats on conversion in jails?

Quite high according to the prison chaplain I met but according to him 90% of it was soft nominal conversion because the halal food is a lot nicer than the usual prison slop.

FrancisUrquhart

oldpolitics said:

Mortimer said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Awesome, just what we need...

ABOUT 70% of Muslim prison chaplains espouse a hardline interpretation of Islam that runs contrary to British values and human rights, an independent review has discovered.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1665618.ece

Wow - I didn't even know there were Muslim prison chaplains....

Any stats on conversion in jails?

Quite high according to the prison chaplain I met but according to him 90% of it was soft nominal conversion because the halal food is a lot nicer than the usual prison slop.

If rumours are to believe there is also a certain amount of you better be in my gang or else going on....

dr_spyn

FrancisUrquhart said:

Jamie Oliver indicates he will campaign to kick Tories from office if they fail over childhood obesity

TV chef and healthy eating campaigner says ministers should be put 'out of power as soon as possible' if they fall short on plans

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/12145041/Jamie-Oliver-indicates-he-will-campaign-to-kick-Tories-from-office-if-they-fail-over-childhood-obesity.html

Maybe Jamie hasn't head, there is this thing called fixed term parliaments...

Has he some new sugar free recipe books to research and finish?

FrancisUrquhart

dr_spyn said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Jamie Oliver indicates he will campaign to kick Tories from office if they fail over childhood obesity

TV chef and healthy eating campaigner says ministers should be put 'out of power as soon as possible' if they fall short on plans

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/12145041/Jamie-Oliver-indicates-he-will-campaign-to-kick-Tories-from-office-if-they-fail-over-childhood-obesity.html

Maybe Jamie hasn't head, there is this thing called fixed term parliaments...

Has he some new sugar free recipe books to research and finish?

Gotta be a tv series coming up...

Indigo

FrancisUrquhart said:

Jamie Oliver indicates he will campaign to kick Tories from office if they fail over childhood obesity

TV chef and healthy eating campaigner says ministers should be put 'out of power as soon as possible' if they fall short on plans

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/12145041/Jamie-Oliver-indicates-he-will-campaign-to-kick-Tories-from-office-if-they-fail-over-childhood-obesity.html

Maybe Jamie hasn't head, there is this thing called fixed term parliaments...

He is reheating an old meal there, said the same thing two years ago

Jamie Oliver has praised Ukip, saying he "loves" the way Nigel Farage's party is "stirring it up".

The Naked Chef made a rare foray into politics, saying he was "disillusioned" with David Cameron's government because of a lack of support for his healthy eating crusade.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/13/jamie-oliver-praises-ukip_n_3264693.html

oxfordsimon

Indigo said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Jamie Oliver indicates he will campaign to kick Tories from office if they fail over childhood obesity

TV chef and healthy eating campaigner says ministers should be put 'out of power as soon as possible' if they fall short on plans

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/12145041/Jamie-Oliver-indicates-he-will-campaign-to-kick-Tories-from-office-if-they-fail-over-childhood-obesity.html

Maybe Jamie hasn't head, there is this thing called fixed term parliaments...

He is reheating an old meal there, said the same thing two years ago

Jamie Oliver has praised Ukip, saying he "loves" the way Nigel Farage's party is "stirring it up".

The Naked Chef made a rare foray into politics, saying he was "disillusioned" with David Cameron's government because of a lack of support for his healthy eating crusade.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/13/jamie-oliver-praises-ukip_n_3264693.html

Someone needs to do an analysis of his cookbooks and see how many recipes don't contribute to a healthy eating plan.

It is one thing to campaign on something, another to lead others into temptation with a triple layer choc fudge cake with whipped cream...

Charles

oxfordsimon said:

Indigo said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Jamie Oliver indicates he will campaign to kick Tories from office if they fail over childhood obesity

TV chef and healthy eating campaigner says ministers should be put 'out of power as soon as possible' if they fall short on plans

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/12145041/Jamie-Oliver-indicates-he-will-campaign-to-kick-Tories-from-office-if-they-fail-over-childhood-obesity.html

Maybe Jamie hasn't head, there is this thing called fixed term parliaments...

He is reheating an old meal there, said the same thing two years ago

Jamie Oliver has praised Ukip, saying he "loves" the way Nigel Farage's party is "stirring it up".

The Naked Chef made a rare foray into politics, saying he was "disillusioned" with David Cameron's government because of a lack of support for his healthy eating crusade.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/13/jamie-oliver-praises-ukip_n_3264693.html

Someone needs to do an analysis of his cookbooks and see how many recipes don't contribute to a healthy eating plan.

It is one thing to campaign on something, another to lead others into temptation with a triple layer choc fudge cake with whipped cream...

Been there, done that...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/9023550/US-celebrity-chef-Paula-Deen-has-Type-2-diabetes.html

Luckyguy1983

oxfordsimon said:

Indigo said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Jamie Oliver indicates he will campaign to kick Tories from office if they fail over childhood obesity

TV chef and healthy eating campaigner says ministers should be put 'out of power as soon as possible' if they fall short on plans

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/12145041/Jamie-Oliver-indicates-he-will-campaign-to-kick-Tories-from-office-if-they-fail-over-childhood-obesity.html

Maybe Jamie hasn't head, there is this thing called fixed term parliaments...

He is reheating an old meal there, said the same thing two years ago

Jamie Oliver has praised Ukip, saying he "loves" the way Nigel Farage's party is "stirring it up".

The Naked Chef made a rare foray into politics, saying he was "disillusioned" with David Cameron's government because of a lack of support for his healthy eating crusade.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/13/jamie-oliver-praises-ukip_n_3264693.html

Someone needs to do an analysis of his cookbooks and see how many recipes don't contribute to a healthy eating plan.

It is one thing to campaign on something, another to lead others into temptation with a triple layer choc fudge cake with whipped cream...

Nothing wrong with whipped cream - it's a sensible thing to put on a dessert. Chocolate fudge not so much.

weejonnie

Of course things like http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/12145126/Labours-mayoral-hopeful-linked-to-online-bin-Laden.html don't really help Labour.

DavidL

Woops

NickPalmer

logical_song said:

The Tories are attacking Khan because doesn't rebel and agrees with the Labour leader 'on many occasions'
That's a bit weak isn't it? You can almost hear the rest of the sentence "There will be many occasions when I agree with Jeremy Corbyn..." BUT...

Didn't take long to find this:
"There will be occasions when frankly speaking I disagree with Jeremy,” he says, naming support for a new runway at Gatwick, a belief that businesses can drive job growth and prosperity and “unequivocal” backing of a reformed European Union as key points of difference.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/12103480/Sadiq-Khan-Pick-me-as-next-London-Mayor.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Yes, I don't think anyone sensible demands total disagreement on everything. I quite often agree with David Cameron on something or other without thereby feeling I'm a pbTory.

notme

Of course Labour are going to do very well in the capital. If there is a place in the world in which you can sell out of touch metropolitan Islington socialism, it is in places like Islington.....

On the other hand, if Labour dont win the mayorality it will be a bit of a shocker.

Charles

DavidL said:

I live a
Don't know been in my bed all day. Don't think mum has been to tescos yet.

Presumably one of your kids by accident...?!

Speedy

London is very different demographically and economically than the rest of the country, it is ideal ground for Corbynism, it has huge income inequality, high inflation, it's urban and it's a majority minority city.
It's no coincidence that Corbyn is most popular there.

I can't see Khan losing in such friendly territory barring a major scandal.

DavidL

Charles said:

DavidL said:

I live a
Don't know been in my bed all day. Don't think mum has been to tescos yet.

Presumably one of your kids by accident...?!

Something like that...thanks for saving that for posterity Charles.

DavidL

NickPalmer said:

logical_song said:

The Tories are attacking Khan because doesn't rebel and agrees with the Labour leader 'on many occasions'
That's a bit weak isn't it? You can almost hear the rest of the sentence "There will be many occasions when I agree with Jeremy Corbyn..." BUT...

Didn't take long to find this:
"There will be occasions when frankly speaking I disagree with Jeremy,” he says, naming support for a new runway at Gatwick, a belief that businesses can drive job growth and prosperity and “unequivocal” backing of a reformed European Union as key points of difference.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/12103480/Sadiq-Khan-Pick-me-as-next-London-Mayor.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Yes, I don't think anyone sensible demands total disagreement on everything. I quite often agree with David Cameron on something or other without thereby feeling I'm a pbTory.

What, even after your birthday? I thought you were on the road to redemption or something. ;-)

FrancisUrquhart

Viva Palestina was beset with controversy when, the day before its departure, nine of the volunteers were arrested under the Terrorism Act by Lancashire police. All were later released without charge, and Galloway branded the move an attempt to “smear and intimidate the Muslim community”.

However, a list of the convoy volunteers obtained by BuzzFeed News reveals that three of the men who travelled alongside Kotey are now known as extremists. Among them was Afsharzadegan, who was in the same sub-group of 25 volunteers. The British-Iranian terror suspect travelled to Somalia in 2006 to be trained by a top al-Qaeda operative, and intelligence agencies believe he was sent back to Britain with instructions to recruit members for al-Qaeda and al-Shabaab.

Afsharzadegan was a leader of the London Boys network, through which Emwazi is believed to have been radicalised.

Another member of Kotey’s group on the convoy, Amin Addala, has also been named in court as a member of the network. And a third volunteer, Manchester-based Munir Farooqi, was convicted of terror offences in 2011 after attempting to recruit two undercover police officers to join the Taliban in Afghanistan. He was sentenced to life imprisonment.


http://www.buzzfeed.com/janebradley/unmasked-the-second-member-of-isiss-beatles-execution-cell#.plrA8BQgvx

CarlottaVance

Another Thatcher biographer comes out against Powell's 'Thatcher would vote Remain':

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/02/i-know-that-margaret-thatcher-would-have-fought-for-brexit-with-all-her-strength-heres-why/

Steven_Whaley

Scott_P said:

Clearly Corbyn is an electoral liability...

@BuzzFeedUKPol: SNP MP Blasts Jeremy Corbyn For Drinking Irn Bru “With A Silly Grin” https://t.co/5c2f1ZWKcR https://t.co/jGwUWz9lkn

What is the officially approved facial expression for drinking Irn Bru, I wonder? I think it's delicious so I probably tend towards some kind of grin (silly or otherwise) myself.

Speedy

New N.H tracking polls, all conducted before the debate of course.

CNN

Trump 33+5
Rubio 16 -1
Cruz 14 +1
Kasich 11 -2
Bush 7 -2
Fiorina 6 +1
Christie 4 0
Carson 2 +1

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/07/politics/new-hampshire-poll-full-results/index.html

U.M.

Trump 36 +1
Rubio 14 0
Cruz 13 0
Bush 10 0
Kasich 9 -1
Christie 4 0
Fiorina 4 +1
Carson 3 0
http://www.uml.edu/docs/2-7 TOPLINE - UMassLowell-7NEWS NH PRIMARY_tcm18-230859.pdf

ARG

Trump 31 -3
Kasich 17 0
Rubio 17 +1
Bush 9 +1
Cruz 9 0
Christie 5 0
Fiorina 2
Carson 1 -1

DavidBrackenbury

SouthamObserver said:

SquareRoot said:

SouthamObserver said:

Charles said:

Verulamius said:

Charles said:

rottenborough said:

Curse of the new thread: Snap General Election this autumn, a Labour MP muses:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435885/Jeremy-Corbyn-told-prepare-General-Election-year-amid-fears-David-Cameron-resign-EU-referendum.html

Why would they jeopardise the boundary review?

After all we are still working on the basis of the 2001 census (until 2018 I believe)

Charles

The position is slightly worse, as the current boundaries are based on the electoral registers as at 17 February 2000. There is no linkage in the UK to the census as the constituencies are based on eligible registered voters rather than population.

The next review is about to start this spring and will be based on the December 2015 electoral registers; hence the fuss Labour has been making on individual registration and the reduction in registered voters in their urban heartland.

Sure, but the current set up favours Labour, so it is in no way wrong.

You have to remember the rule that "Labour benefits" = good while "removal of bias" = gerrymandering.

The Tories got over 50% of the seats on 37% of the vote last May. The changes they are introducing will increase the current bias in a system that already works in their favour. Let's not pretend that fairness has anything to do with it.

Huh.. Where were you when Labour won thumping majorities on a lesser vote share.

Advocating electoral reform. Always have, always will.

Fair enough to do so and you certainly have been consistent. The problem was that the matter was put to a national referendum a few years ago and the public decisively voted against. Now I know that it was for AV only and i know that circumstances change, but to change the electoral system really would need unity about which method AND the agreement of the electorate in another referendum. The problem is that most political parties would be arguing for their own advantage, so a clear view would be difficult to visualise.

But I am sure that TSE can help on the AV matter...

FrancisUrquhart

Steven_Whaley said:

Scott_P said:

Clearly Corbyn is an electoral liability...

@BuzzFeedUKPol: SNP MP Blasts Jeremy Corbyn For Drinking Irn Bru “With A Silly Grin” https://t.co/5c2f1ZWKcR https://t.co/jGwUWz9lkn

What is the officially approved facial expression for drinking Irn Bru, I wonder? I think it's delicious so I probably tend towards some kind of grin (silly or otherwise) myself.

Imagine the SNP reaction if he had also eat a Tunnock's Teacake as well.....

DavidBrackenbury

FrancisUrquhart said:

Steven_Whaley said:

Scott_P said:

Clearly Corbyn is an electoral liability...

@BuzzFeedUKPol: SNP MP Blasts Jeremy Corbyn For Drinking Irn Bru “With A Silly Grin” https://t.co/5c2f1ZWKcR https://t.co/jGwUWz9lkn

What is the officially approved facial expression for drinking Irn Bru, I wonder? I think it's delicious so I probably tend towards some kind of grin (silly or otherwise) myself.

Imagine the SNP reaction if he had also eat a Tunnock's Teacake as well.....

Imagine the SNP reaction if he had declined to drink the Iron Bru. This sort of thing is just pathetic.

Plato_Says

From a discussion here several threads ago.

Country name used by the people of each country in its most commonly used language https://t.co/Qimu32rtJd https://t.co/JSJtpCWEPR

Charles

DavidL said:

Charles said:

DavidL said:

I live a
Don't know been in my bed all day. Don't think mum has been to tescos yet.

Presumably one of your kids by accident...?!

Something like that...thanks for saving that for posterity Charles.

All part of the rich tapestry of life

DavidBrackenbury

Steven_Whaley said:

Scott_P said:

Clearly Corbyn is an electoral liability...

@BuzzFeedUKPol: SNP MP Blasts Jeremy Corbyn For Drinking Irn Bru “With A Silly Grin” https://t.co/5c2f1ZWKcR https://t.co/jGwUWz9lkn

What is the officially approved facial expression for drinking Irn Bru, I wonder? I think it's delicious so I probably tend towards some kind of grin (silly or otherwise) myself.

Respect!

Indigo

CarlottaVance said:

Another Thatcher biographer comes out against Powell's 'Thatcher would vote Remain':

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/02/i-know-that-margaret-thatcher-would-have-fought-for-brexit-with-all-her-strength-heres-why/

Powell was an FCO man and career diplomat.. anyone even remotely surprised he suddenly remembered that Thatcher was a closet REMAINer?

FrancisUrquhart

DavidBrackenbury said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Steven_Whaley said:

Scott_P said:

Clearly Corbyn is an electoral liability...

@BuzzFeedUKPol: SNP MP Blasts Jeremy Corbyn For Drinking Irn Bru “With A Silly Grin” https://t.co/5c2f1ZWKcR https://t.co/jGwUWz9lkn

What is the officially approved facial expression for drinking Irn Bru, I wonder? I think it's delicious so I probably tend towards some kind of grin (silly or otherwise) myself.

Imagine the SNP reaction if he had also eat a Tunnock's Teacake as well.....

Imagine the SNP reaction if he had declined to drink the Iron Bru. This sort of thing is just pathetic.

Absolutely. There is so much you can act JJ over, a photo of him drinking a fizzy drink which catches him with a stupid expression is not one of them.

Mortimer

DavidBrackenbury said:

Steven_Whaley said:

Scott_P said:

Clearly Corbyn is an electoral liability...

@BuzzFeedUKPol: SNP MP Blasts Jeremy Corbyn For Drinking Irn Bru “With A Silly Grin” https://t.co/5c2f1ZWKcR https://t.co/jGwUWz9lkn

What is the officially approved facial expression for drinking Irn Bru, I wonder? I think it's delicious so I probably tend towards some kind of grin (silly or otherwise) myself.

Respect!

I'm afraid I'm more on the 'it makes my teeth itch' side....

FrancisUrquhart

Mortimer said:

DavidBrackenbury said:

Steven_Whaley said:

Scott_P said:

Clearly Corbyn is an electoral liability...

@BuzzFeedUKPol: SNP MP Blasts Jeremy Corbyn For Drinking Irn Bru “With A Silly Grin” https://t.co/5c2f1ZWKcR https://t.co/jGwUWz9lkn

What is the officially approved facial expression for drinking Irn Bru, I wonder? I think it's delicious so I probably tend towards some kind of grin (silly or otherwise) myself.

Respect!

I'm afraid I'm more on the 'it makes my teeth itch' side....

Just itch....I can feel my teeth dissolving....

LadyBucket

I hope the government doesn't take any notice of that jumped-up little twerp, Jamie Oliver. I'm sick to death of these so-called celebrities thinking they can hold a democratically elected government to task. I think he will find he is not as popular with the public as he thinks. I personally can't stand him. I don't watch his programmes, or buy his over-priced kitchen items.

AndyJS

Plato_Says said:

From a discussion here several threads ago.

Country name used by the people of each country in its most commonly used language https://t.co/Qimu32rtJd https://t.co/JSJtpCWEPR

English is the most commonly spoken language in South Sudan?

TheWhiteRabbit

Gah, got £20 on at 2.1 for Trump in South Carolina, should have got more

dr_spyn

FrancisUrquhart said:

Steven_Whaley said:

Scott_P said:

Clearly Corbyn is an electoral liability...

@BuzzFeedUKPol: SNP MP Blasts Jeremy Corbyn For Drinking Irn Bru “With A Silly Grin” https://t.co/5c2f1ZWKcR https://t.co/jGwUWz9lkn

What is the officially approved facial expression for drinking Irn Bru, I wonder? I think it's delicious so I probably tend towards some kind of grin (silly or otherwise) myself.

Imagine the SNP reaction if he had also eat a Tunnock's Teacake as well.....

Or consume Buckfast.

NickPalmer

DavidL said:

NickPalmer said:

Yes, I don't think anyone sensible demands total disagreement on everything. I quite often agree with David Cameron on something or other without thereby feeling I'm a pbTory.

What, even after your birthday? I thought you were on the road to redemption or something. ;-)

The first 100 years are the leftiest. I might soften on the monarchy when I get my telegram.

CarlottaVance

FrancisUrquhart said:

Mortimer said:

DavidBrackenbury said:

Steven_Whaley said:

Scott_P said:

Clearly Corbyn is an electoral liability...

@BuzzFeedUKPol: SNP MP Blasts Jeremy Corbyn For Drinking Irn Bru “With A Silly Grin” https://t.co/5c2f1ZWKcR https://t.co/jGwUWz9lkn

What is the officially approved facial expression for drinking Irn Bru, I wonder? I think it's delicious so I probably tend towards some kind of grin (silly or otherwise) myself.

Respect!

I'm afraid I'm more on the 'it makes my teeth itch' side....

Just itch....I can feel my teeth dissolving....

They have had some great ads:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fX_K4mNTTI8

DavidBrackenbury

NickPalmer said:


Yes, I don't think anyone sensible demands total disagreement on everything. I quite often agree with David Cameron on something or other without thereby feeling I'm a pbTory.


Come on Nick! Once you are in, the water's fine!!

Sunil_Prasannan

TheScreamingEagles said:

Geek badge if you can spot my subtle Star Trek reference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54

FrancisUrquhart

CarlottaVance said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Mortimer said:

DavidBrackenbury said:

Steven_Whaley said:

Scott_P said:

Clearly Corbyn is an electoral liability...

@BuzzFeedUKPol: SNP MP Blasts Jeremy Corbyn For Drinking Irn Bru “With A Silly Grin” https://t.co/5c2f1ZWKcR https://t.co/jGwUWz9lkn

What is the officially approved facial expression for drinking Irn Bru, I wonder? I think it's delicious so I probably tend towards some kind of grin (silly or otherwise) myself.

Respect!

I'm afraid I'm more on the 'it makes my teeth itch' side....

Just itch....I can feel my teeth dissolving....

They have had some great ads:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fX_K4mNTTI8

Surprised that wasn't banned...gotta be sexist or something...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZOab5gl-4

MarqueeMark

Steven_Whaley said:

Scott_P said:

Clearly Corbyn is an electoral liability...

@BuzzFeedUKPol: SNP MP Blasts Jeremy Corbyn For Drinking Irn Bru “With A Silly Grin” https://t.co/5c2f1ZWKcR https://t.co/jGwUWz9lkn

What is the officially approved facial expression for drinking Irn Bru, I wonder? I think it's delicious so I probably tend towards some kind of grin (silly or otherwise) myself.

Surely, in SNP's Scotland, Irn Bru has to be drunk from a communion cup to afford it due deference? With a Tunnock's wafer to follow.....

Cyclefree

Hello all.

I have had the most delicious birthday lunch in a delightful pub/restaurant in East Sussex and am now half-snoozing on the sofa watching the Ireland-Wales game.

A belated happy birthday to @NickPalmer.

And now.... more zzzzzzzz...........

malcolmg

DavidBrackenbury said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Steven_Whaley said:

Scott_P said:

Clearly Corbyn is an electoral liability...

@BuzzFeedUKPol: SNP MP Blasts Jeremy Corbyn For Drinking Irn Bru “With A Silly Grin” https://t.co/5c2f1ZWKcR https://t.co/jGwUWz9lkn

What is the officially approved facial expression for drinking Irn Bru, I wonder? I think it's delicious so I probably tend towards some kind of grin (silly or otherwise) myself.

Imagine the SNP reaction if he had also eat a Tunnock's Teacake as well.....

Imagine the SNP reaction if he had declined to drink the Iron Bru. This sort of thing is just pathetic.

Bit like you saddo's

Cyclefree

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/12144213/Key-member-of-Jeremy-Corbyns-campaign-team-has-conviction-for-election-fraud.html

Hmmmm........

DavidBrackenbury

Sorry, I wasn't paying attention. Happy birthday Nick!

malcolmg

dr_spyn said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Steven_Whaley said:

Scott_P said:

Clearly Corbyn is an electoral liability...

@BuzzFeedUKPol: SNP MP Blasts Jeremy Corbyn For Drinking Irn Bru “With A Silly Grin” https://t.co/5c2f1ZWKcR https://t.co/jGwUWz9lkn

What is the officially approved facial expression for drinking Irn Bru, I wonder? I think it's delicious so I probably tend towards some kind of grin (silly or otherwise) myself.

Imagine the SNP reaction if he had also eat a Tunnock's Teacake as well.....

Or consume Buckfast.

Another cretinous halfwit, bet you run about in pantaloons clacking two sticks together like a demented loon for a hobby

DavidBrackenbury

malcolmg said:

DavidBrackenbury said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Steven_Whaley said:

Scott_P said:

Clearly Corbyn is an electoral liability...

@BuzzFeedUKPol: SNP MP Blasts Jeremy Corbyn For Drinking Irn Bru “With A Silly Grin” https://t.co/5c2f1ZWKcR https://t.co/jGwUWz9lkn

What is the officially approved facial expression for drinking Irn Bru, I wonder? I think it's delicious so I probably tend towards some kind of grin (silly or otherwise) myself.

Imagine the SNP reaction if he had also eat a Tunnock's Teacake as well.....

Imagine the SNP reaction if he had declined to drink the Iron Bru. This sort of thing is just pathetic.

Bit like you saddo's

Afternoon Malc!

I am no fan of Jeremy Corbyn, but IronBrugate (and baconsandwichgate with Ed Miliband) were ridiculous!!

Sunil_Prasannan

viewcode said:

@TheScreamingEagles

"...that comment earned the Prime Minister the wrath of Khan..."

Call that a Star Trek reference? Pah! I would have thrown in a Klingon proverb and two Moby Dick speeches...

I'm looking forward to the time we can read PB.com in the original Klingon