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edited March 2016 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Trump’s betting price weakens as the 2012 GOP nominee, Mitt Romney, goes to war against the front-runner

There’ve been movements in the past hour on the Betfair Echange following a hard hitting speech by the 2012 GOP nominee, Mitt Romney, against Donald Trump.

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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,432
    edited March 2016
    Go Mitt, kick Trump's arse
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Shall I put you down as a maybe for Trump then Mr Romney...
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,190
    So why is Romney making this attack now? Why didn't he do this earlier in the campaign?
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Paul LePage Questions Ted Cruz's Eligibility To Be President
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-lepage-ted-cruz_us_56d853c5e4b0ffe6f8e8480c
    LePage told radio host Howie Carr that his two daughters were born in Canada, and they had to be naturalized as U.S. citizens even though he was born in America.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    As I mentioned on the last thread:

    More reaction from Cruz backers:

    Daniel Horowitz ‏@RMConservative 1h1 hour ago
    Right now Romney is doing Trumps a favor and giving him much needed momentum by making himself the face of opposition

    Ben Shapiro ‏@benshapiro 56m56 minutes ago
    Romney's brand of milquetoast politics will do nothing to harm Trump. Nothing.

    And Trump's campaign knows it:

    The HillVerified account ‏@thehill 31m31 minutes ago
    JUST IN: Top Trump aide thanks Romney for "incredible endorsement" http://hill.cm/RV0TSOT

    My assumption that Romney attacking Trump helps Trump by channeling Cruz voters to Trump appears to be true.
    This is the best news that Trump had this week so far.

    If Trump survives the Fox debate tonight he is on auto pilot to the nomination, thanks to Romney.

    It's like Tony Blair saying to Labour voters don't vote Corbyn.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    I love the old guy just wanders past totally oblivious.
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    Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    edited March 2016
    I think we just reached the bottom of the 9th and having a sing song
    :lol:
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,332
    Maybe I'm just not seeing this, but Trump being attacked by the face of the Republican establishment is supposed to be bad for Trump when the whole basis of his appeal has been in opposition to it?
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    Brokered convention and Mitt Romney emerges as the nominee.

    Should I take the 80/1 on Betfair on Romney as the GOP nominee?
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    FPT:

    Pulpstar said:
    Kasich has just plummeted on Betfair.

    Any ideas why ?

    Dunno - but I've just laid him at 26 with Betfair and backed him at 51 with both Stan James and Wm Hill, with both severely limiting my stakes.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,332

    Brokered convention and Mitt Romney emerges as the nominee.

    Should I take the 80/1 on Betfair on Romney as the GOP nominee?

    How can he without winning 8 x states?
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    WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838

    Maybe I'm just not seeing this, but Trump being attacked by the face of the Republican establishment is supposed to be bad for Trump when the whole basis of his appeal has been in opposition to it?

    As Pulpstar said on the last thread it's the Blair Corbyn intervention.
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    Brokered convention and Mitt Romney emerges as the nominee.

    Should I take the 80/1 on Betfair on Romney as the GOP nominee?

    How can he without winning 8 x states?
    Yeah, I knew there was a flaw in my plan, just didn't know what.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,190
    Isn't Mitt Romney attacking Donald Trump a bit like Ed Miliband attacking Jeremy Corbyn?
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,332
    Wanderer said:

    Maybe I'm just not seeing this, but Trump being attacked by the face of the Republican establishment is supposed to be bad for Trump when the whole basis of his appeal has been in opposition to it?

    As Pulpstar said on the last thread it's the Blair Corbyn intervention.
    It's a great time to top up on Trump.
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    hoveitehoveite Posts: 43
    Who might the third party standard bearer be?

    As this NY Times article http://nyti.ms/1WWdyIp says, the easiest way to get on the ballot across the nation could be to be the nominee of the Libetarian or Constiutional parties.

    A candidate from the right of the GOP could be more likely to come to an arrangement with those parties.

    On that basis what about Ben Sasse? He's a Nebraska senator who's been vocal in opposing Trump.

    I think he comes across well in this video of him reading out mean tweets from Trump supporters http://on.fb.me/1Qu6rGB
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,987

    Brokered convention and Mitt Romney emerges as the nominee.

    Should I take the 80/1 on Betfair on Romney as the GOP nominee?

    I don't know. How much do you hate money?
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    If not Trump then I'd fancy Kasich rather than Yesterday's Man.

    http://tinyurl.com/ozyvh33
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,937
    If Trump is making claims about donating to veterans' groups and isn't doing so, he is finished.
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    WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838

    Wanderer said:

    Maybe I'm just not seeing this, but Trump being attacked by the face of the Republican establishment is supposed to be bad for Trump when the whole basis of his appeal has been in opposition to it?

    As Pulpstar said on the last thread it's the Blair Corbyn intervention.
    It's a great time to top up on Trump.
    Yes. Maybe even better after tonight's debate as Rubio and Cruz and both go for him, surely.
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    IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966

    Maybe I'm just not seeing this, but Trump being attacked by the face of the Republican establishment is supposed to be bad for Trump when the whole basis of his appeal has been in opposition to it?

    Quite. Trump is going to wave him away as yesterday's man, full support of the establishment and couldn't make it stick. Couldn't even make himself great never mind make America great again, etc
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    IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966

    If Trump is making claims about donating to veterans' groups and isn't doing so, he is finished.

    I would be very surprised if he ever shows his tax returns, he is just going to hand wave it away.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,216
    All seems a bit too late to me. But here's hoping Rubio pulls off something unbelievable.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,216
    Indigo said:

    Maybe I'm just not seeing this, but Trump being attacked by the face of the Republican establishment is supposed to be bad for Trump when the whole basis of his appeal has been in opposition to it?

    Quite. Trump is going to wave him away as yesterday's man, full support of the establishment and couldn't make it stick. Couldn't even make himself great never mind make America great again, etc
    True. But what else can GOP do other than attack, attack, attack? They have got themselves into a right mess.
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    Question for the legal eagles here.
    The footballer who has been convicted is iirc on bail awaiting sentencing.
    Does the time on bail post conviction count towards time served of any sentence?
    Someone in the pub is saying it does, seems a bit odd to me if it does.
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    IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966

    Indigo said:

    Maybe I'm just not seeing this, but Trump being attacked by the face of the Republican establishment is supposed to be bad for Trump when the whole basis of his appeal has been in opposition to it?

    Quite. Trump is going to wave him away as yesterday's man, full support of the establishment and couldn't make it stick. Couldn't even make himself great never mind make America great again, etc
    True. But what else can GOP do other than attack, attack, attack? They have got themselves into a right mess.
    This is the bit I don't get though. If they attack attack attack they get HRC for sure, do thy really want 4-8 years of her rather than the rather less than optimal Mr Trump ?
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,419

    Indigo said:

    Maybe I'm just not seeing this, but Trump being attacked by the face of the Republican establishment is supposed to be bad for Trump when the whole basis of his appeal has been in opposition to it?

    Quite. Trump is going to wave him away as yesterday's man, full support of the establishment and couldn't make it stick. Couldn't even make himself great never mind make America great again, etc
    True. But what else can GOP do other than attack, attack, attack? They have got themselves into a right mess.
    They could back him. After all, he's going to be their nominee and he's a better bet for them than Cruz who's the only realistic alternative.
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    Question for the legal eagles here.
    The footballer who has been convicted is iirc on bail awaiting sentencing.
    Does the time on bail post conviction count towards time served of any sentence?
    Someone in the pub is saying it does, seems a bit odd to me if it does.

    Only if he was on remand.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,937
    Indigo said:

    If Trump is making claims about donating to veterans' groups and isn't doing so, he is finished.

    I would be very surprised if he ever shows his tax returns, he is just going to hand wave it away.

    That may work for the nomination, but it may be less effective in the wider sphere.

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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,419
    On topic, time to back Trump again then (or perhaps time to wait just a little longer before doing so).

    It is true that he has a bit of a challenge this next week with most contests being caucuses and closed primaries, where he's not done so well. That could create a media narrative that runs against him. That will make for a good time to back him

    Because the fundamental point remains and is this: he has a 25% lead over the field in the national polls.

    It is possible that Rubio might beat him in Florida (though is a long way from it at the moment), it is possible that Kasich might beat him in Ohio (though Trump leads there too, just), it is possible that Cruz might win more states.

    But overall, Trump will win far more delegates and far more states. No one will be able to beat him and the convention will look horribly rigged if it goes any other way in the unlikely event that it ends up without an outright winner.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,216
    Trump still threatening to go independent if they stop him.
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    Question for the legal eagles here.
    The footballer who has been convicted is iirc on bail awaiting sentencing.
    Does the time on bail post conviction count towards time served of any sentence?
    Someone in the pub is saying it does, seems a bit odd to me if it does.

    Only if he was on remand.
    Thanks for the confirmation TSE
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    JenSJenS Posts: 91
    Time on electronic tag counts towards sentence. For every 2 days on tag, 1 day is taken off the sentence to be served.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,432
    edited March 2016

    Question for the legal eagles here.
    The footballer who has been convicted is iirc on bail awaiting sentencing.
    Does the time on bail post conviction count towards time served of any sentence?
    Someone in the pub is saying it does, seems a bit odd to me if it does.

    Only if he was on remand.
    Thanks for the confirmation TSE
    Actually I was wrong, if he was on remanded on bail with HDC (tag) that would count as part of his sentence. One day of tag counts as half of a day of prison time.

    Looking at the available evidence, Adam Johnson wasn't remanded on bail with HDC
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,840
    I think this attack only helps The Donald. It's far too late now to stop him getting the Republican nomination.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,216
    Indigo said:

    Indigo said:

    Maybe I'm just not seeing this, but Trump being attacked by the face of the Republican establishment is supposed to be bad for Trump when the whole basis of his appeal has been in opposition to it?

    Quite. Trump is going to wave him away as yesterday's man, full support of the establishment and couldn't make it stick. Couldn't even make himself great never mind make America great again, etc
    True. But what else can GOP do other than attack, attack, attack? They have got themselves into a right mess.
    This is the bit I don't get though. If they attack attack attack they get HRC for sure, do thy really want 4-8 years of her rather than the rather less than optimal Mr Trump ?
    Probably.
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    Those who think it's worth backing Kasich to win the GOP nomination at around 20/1 - 25/1 might also like to consider backing him for POTUS at 100/1 with sportingbet and others.
    DYOR
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,216
    McCain now weighing in.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,060
    Indigo said:

    Indigo said:

    Maybe I'm just not seeing this, but Trump being attacked by the face of the Republican establishment is supposed to be bad for Trump when the whole basis of his appeal has been in opposition to it?

    Quite. Trump is going to wave him away as yesterday's man, full support of the establishment and couldn't make it stick. Couldn't even make himself great never mind make America great again, etc
    True. But what else can GOP do other than attack, attack, attack? They have got themselves into a right mess.
    This is the bit I don't get though. If they attack attack attack they get HRC for sure, do thy really want 4-8 years of her rather than the rather less than optimal Mr Trump ?
    On the other hand, if he can't withstand this then he won't beat Hillary either so you could see it as an extreme form of vetting.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926
    The Rubio backers are back like bitches on heat on Betfair.
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    I think many of us on PB recognise the value, now sadly all but gone, in backing Trump for the GOP nomination, but just feel that somehow, in some way his bid is destined to fail. That's an acceptable risk for those who got on at 5/1, 10/1 or possibly more, but probably not so at his current odds of less than 1/2.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,216
    Trump's campaign manager saying that all this Romney stuff "is the problem with politicians". Back to the anti-politics argument. Why not, it seems to have been working.
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    Maybe my dream of a Biden-Kasich election is not looking impossible after all/
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    AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    Rubio on betfair is like the turd that wouldn't flush. Lot of money really fancies him.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926

    Maybe my dream of a Biden-Kasich election is not looking impossible after all/

    Biden is still in the frame as much as he ever was.

    So is Kasich for that matter.
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    Indigo said:

    Indigo said:

    Maybe I'm just not seeing this, but Trump being attacked by the face of the Republican establishment is supposed to be bad for Trump when the whole basis of his appeal has been in opposition to it?

    Quite. Trump is going to wave him away as yesterday's man, full support of the establishment and couldn't make it stick. Couldn't even make himself great never mind make America great again, etc
    True. But what else can GOP do other than attack, attack, attack? They have got themselves into a right mess.
    This is the bit I don't get though. If they attack attack attack they get HRC for sure, do thy really want 4-8 years of her rather than the rather less than optimal Mr Trump ?
    No, they want someone (as yet unknown) altogether different instead.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926
    Andrew said:

    Rubio on betfair is like the turd that wouldn't flush. Lot of money really fancies him.

    Jeb Bush has come back from the dead too.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    The way the GOP going, they need to bring back Jerry Springer show and get him to sort them out...Go Jerry...Go Jerry...Go Jerry
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388

    Question for the legal eagles here.
    The footballer who has been convicted is iirc on bail awaiting sentencing.
    Does the time on bail post conviction count towards time served of any sentence?
    Someone in the pub is saying it does, seems a bit odd to me if it does.

    Only if he was on remand.
    Thanks for the confirmation TSE
    Actually I was wrong, if he was on remanded on bail with HDC (tag) that would count as part of his sentence. One day of tag counts as half of a day of prison time.

    Looking at the available evidence, Adam Johnson wasn't remanded on bail with HDC
    Well, it's tag + curfew; see 240A

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/44/part/12/chapter/6/crossheading/effect-of-remand-in-custody

    No idea if he is as you say not subject to such a condition

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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,060
    Pulpstar said:

    Andrew said:

    Rubio on betfair is like the turd that wouldn't flush. Lot of money really fancies him.

    Jeb Bush has come back from the dead too.
    Something about him reminds me of Tom Kite saying, "Don't give yourselves the victory yet," after Europe retained the Ryder Cup at the Belfry.
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    PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2016
    Really frustrating there are people buying POTUS Romney @ 25/1 over on predictit.

    They'd get 269/1 if they figured out a way to access Betfair.

    I'm not saying backing him is a good bet, it's just frustrating when people blindly take such obviously crap odds.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926
    Loool There's a bunch of Bernie fans at the Trump rally.
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    Question for the legal eagles here.
    The footballer who has been convicted is iirc on bail awaiting sentencing.
    Does the time on bail post conviction count towards time served of any sentence?
    Someone in the pub is saying it does, seems a bit odd to me if it does.

    Only if he was on remand.
    Thanks for the confirmation TSE
    Actually I was wrong, if he was on remanded on bail with HDC (tag) that would count as part of his sentence. One day of tag counts as half of a day of prison time.

    Looking at the available evidence, Adam Johnson wasn't remanded on bail with HDC
    Well, it's tag + curfew; see 240A

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/44/part/12/chapter/6/crossheading/effect-of-remand-in-custody

    No idea if he is as you say not subject to such a condition

    I once wore a tag for about 30mins at a G4S open day. After about 20 mins I was ready to rip it off.

    I admire the chaps that wear it 24/7 for months.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926
    Pong said:

    Really frustrating there are people buying POTUS Romney @ 25/1 over on predictit.

    They'd get 269/1 if they figured out a way to access Betfair.

    Have you ever seen a goldmine that you just can't access ?
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926
    25-1 Romney POTUS has to be the worst bet I have EVER, EVER, EVER seen in my entire life.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,216
    Pulpstar said:

    Maybe my dream of a Biden-Kasich election is not looking impossible after all/

    Biden is still in the frame as much as he ever was.

    So is Kasich for that matter.
    Betting wise, I'd prefer Kerry. Had a couple of quid at silly odds when I was feeling silly.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926
    Le Paige on stage
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    Pulpstar said:

    25-1 Romney POTUS has to be the worst bet I have EVER, EVER, EVER seen in my entire life.

    Err, Pong and Tissue Price offering me 5/1 and 9/1 on there being an exact tie on the EUref has to be a contender for that prize.
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    PongPong Posts: 4,693
    Pulpstar said:

    Pong said:

    Really frustrating there are people buying POTUS Romney @ 25/1 over on predictit.

    They'd get 269/1 if they figured out a way to access Betfair.

    Have you ever seen a goldmine that you just can't access ?
    grrrr.

    It's not me laying that 269/1 btw - I'm not really prepared to lay my Romney green above 100/1 right now.

    1% sounds about right to me.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926

    Pulpstar said:

    Maybe my dream of a Biden-Kasich election is not looking impossible after all/

    Biden is still in the frame as much as he ever was.

    So is Kasich for that matter.
    Betting wise, I'd prefer Kerry. Had a couple of quid at silly odds when I was feeling silly.
    Hah I am + £1300 on Kerry, had £2 on him at 1000-1 too, Biden doesn't fancy it after Hillary gets FBIed; neither does Al Gore. Kerry steps in.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,060
    Pulpstar said:

    Le Paige on stage

    Elaine?
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,288
    Big move in EU ref odds.

    Until about 24 hours ago, Remain was about 1.43.

    Started tightening last night and now all the way in to 1.34.

    That's a big move.

    Any explanation? I can't see any comment on here.
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    MikeL said:

    Big move in EU ref odds.

    Until about 24 hours ago, Remain was about 1.43.

    Started tightening last night and now all the way in to 1.34.

    That's a big move.

    Any explanation? I can't see any comment on here.

    I did fill in a couple of YouGov EUref polls in the last couple of days.

    We might be due a poll tonight.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited March 2016
    Mr Yentob has said he wants to focus on the musical talents of migrants

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3474871/BBC-s-Imagine-arts-editor-Alan-Yentob-films-documentary-Calais-migrant-camp-bulldozers-raze-homes-fourth-day.html

    Now nobody suggest he is out of touch...has anybody told him Glastonbury hasn't relocated across the channel this year.

    Is it just me or does it seem like you can't claim you a somebody until you have spent a day or two wandering around the jungle taking selfies on your iPhone?
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926
    New this morning: Florida state Rep. Mike Hill is endorsing @tedcruz for president, per Cruz's campaign in Florida.

    Cruz needs to go in hard in Florida, needs to get the bartender's son out the race.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,232
    Indigo said:

    Indigo said:

    Maybe I'm just not seeing this, but Trump being attacked by the face of the Republican establishment is supposed to be bad for Trump when the whole basis of his appeal has been in opposition to it?

    Quite. Trump is going to wave him away as yesterday's man, full support of the establishment and couldn't make it stick. Couldn't even make himself great never mind make America great again, etc
    True. But what else can GOP do other than attack, attack, attack? They have got themselves into a right mess.
    This is the bit I don't get though. If they attack attack attack they get HRC for sure, do thy really want 4-8 years of her rather than the rather less than optimal Mr Trump ?
    I think they have worked out that even if Clinton wins, the odds of a tainted 73 year old winning in 2020 are zero. Meanwhile, there is a good chance of a split ticket given how Marmite the candidates are - if the Republicans keep Congress with a weak President who has no actual policies, they'll probably get more than with the socially liberal Trump and a Democratic Congress.

    Or maybe I'm overthinking this and they just feel much the same way TSE does about him.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926
    Bernie fans being evicted now !
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited March 2016
    Migrants in Greece are set to be handed envelopes of cash under a £550million EU disaster fund announced yesterday.

    Brussels officials said despite the obvious dangers of giving taxpayers’ money directly to those in refugee camps to spend as they wish it would help them ‘maintain their dignity’.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3474417/Migrants-Greece-handed-550million-EU-disaster-fund-maintain-dignity.html

    Looks like the EU have been taking advice from Kids Company / Batwoman on how to run a successful operation.
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    Migrants in Greece are set to be handed envelopes of cash under a £550million EU disaster fund announced yesterday.

    Brussels officials said despite the obvious dangers of giving taxpayers’ money directly to those in refugee camps to spend as they wish it would help them ‘maintain their dignity’.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3474417/Migrants-Greece-handed-550million-EU-disaster-fund-maintain-dignity.html

    Looks like the EU have been taking advice from Kids Company / Batwoman on how to run a successful operation.

    I think I might head off to Greece, I think I could pass off as a migrant
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    Huzzah

    Tommy Sheridan has pledged to put forward an 'Indyref Bill' within his first 3 months as an MSP if he is elected in May #SP16
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,998
    edited March 2016
    ydoethur said:

    Indigo said:

    Indigo said:

    Maybe I'm just not seeing this, but Trump being attacked by the face of the Republican establishment is supposed to be bad for Trump when the whole basis of his appeal has been in opposition to it?

    Quite. Trump is going to wave him away as yesterday's man, full support of the establishment and couldn't make it stick. Couldn't even make himself great never mind make America great again, etc
    True. But what else can GOP do other than attack, attack, attack? They have got themselves into a right mess.
    This is the bit I don't get though. If they attack attack attack they get HRC for sure, do thy really want 4-8 years of her rather than the rather less than optimal Mr Trump ?
    I think they have worked out that even if Clinton wins, the odds of a tainted 73 year old winning in 2020 are zero. Meanwhile, there is a good chance of a split ticket given how Marmite the candidates are - if the Republicans keep Congress with a weak President who has no actual policies, they'll probably get more than with the socially liberal Trump and a Democratic Congress.

    Or maybe I'm overthinking this and they just feel much the same way TSE does about him.
    If Trump loses the GOP base will likely conclude they need someone even more conservative in 2020 and pick Cruz, which would be just as bad for the establishment. If Trump wins he runs for reelection in 2020 either way the GOP establishment is now arguably in an even greater hole than the Labour establishment and they keep on digging. Romney's speech is the equivalent of Ed Miliband publicly slating Corbyn, having a loser stand as the leader of the establishment will just inflame the base even more
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    TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    edited March 2016

    Migrants in Greece are set to be handed envelopes of cash under a £550million EU disaster fund announced yesterday. Brussels officials said despite the obvious dangers of giving taxpayers’ money directly to those in refugee camps to spend as they wish it would help them ‘maintain their dignity’.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3474417/Migrants-Greece-handed-550million-EU-disaster-fund-maintain-dignity.html
    Looks like the EU have been taking advice from Kids Company / Batwoman on how to run a successful operation.

    It is the EU/Mrs Merkel approach to managing a problem. Reward the people who do the wrong thing so that you send a message to the others to join them in one bigger group doing the wrong thing.
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    Migrants in Greece are set to be handed envelopes of cash under a £550million EU disaster fund announced yesterday.

    Brussels officials said despite the obvious dangers of giving taxpayers’ money directly to those in refugee camps to spend as they wish it would help them ‘maintain their dignity’.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3474417/Migrants-Greece-handed-550million-EU-disaster-fund-maintain-dignity.html

    Looks like the EU have been taking advice from Kids Company / Batwoman on how to run a successful operation.

    I think I might head off to Greece, I think I could pass off as a migrant
    Right, but just be sure not to wear your poncey shoes!
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @Reuters: LIVE: Trump calls Mitt Romney's speech "irrelevant." https://t.co/lziGKGJRQi https://t.co/EjBZQMYQgA
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    Migrants in Greece are set to be handed envelopes of cash under a £550million EU disaster fund announced yesterday.

    Brussels officials said despite the obvious dangers of giving taxpayers’ money directly to those in refugee camps to spend as they wish it would help them ‘maintain their dignity’.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3474417/Migrants-Greece-handed-550million-EU-disaster-fund-maintain-dignity.html

    Looks like the EU have been taking advice from Kids Company / Batwoman on how to run a successful operation.

    I think I might head off to Greece, I think I could pass off as a migrant
    Right, but just be sure not to wear your poncey shoes!
    Funny you should mention that, I'm on the verge on buying my ponciest ever bit of footwear
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    TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    edited March 2016

    Mr Yentob has said he wants to focus on the musical talents of migrants. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3474871/BBC-s-Imagine-arts-editor-Alan-Yentob-films-documentary-Calais-migrant-camp-bulldozers-raze-homes-fourth-day.html Now nobody suggest he is out of touch...has anybody told him Glastonbury hasn't relocated across the channel this year.
    Is it just me or does it seem like you can't claim you a somebody until you have spent a day or two wandering around the jungle taking selfies on your iPhone?

    These poor poor people having walked thousands of miles and now harrasssed by minor celebrities such as Yentob. Has he lost his freebie tickets for Glastonbury and the big entertaining budget that he squandered?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited March 2016

    Migrants in Greece are set to be handed envelopes of cash under a £550million EU disaster fund announced yesterday.

    Brussels officials said despite the obvious dangers of giving taxpayers’ money directly to those in refugee camps to spend as they wish it would help them ‘maintain their dignity’.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3474417/Migrants-Greece-handed-550million-EU-disaster-fund-maintain-dignity.html

    Looks like the EU have been taking advice from Kids Company / Batwoman on how to run a successful operation.

    I think I might head off to Greece, I think I could pass off as a migrant
    If you have any sporting talent you might even get a spot in the Olympics. Failing that Yentob will get you a starring spot on Later with Jools Holland (it doesn't matter if you can sing or not, most on there can't anyway).
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,983
    Good evening, everyone.

    F1: not been paying as much attention as before to testing (got pre-release Sir Edric stuff to work on). Not seen, from the little attention I've paid, much to alter my view from the first test, though.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285

    Mr Yentob has said he wants to focus on the musical talents of migrants. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3474871/BBC-s-Imagine-arts-editor-Alan-Yentob-films-documentary-Calais-migrant-camp-bulldozers-raze-homes-fourth-day.html Now nobody suggest he is out of touch...has anybody told him Glastonbury hasn't relocated across the channel this year.
    Is it just me or does it seem like you can't claim you a somebody until you have spent a day or two wandering around the jungle taking selfies on your iPhone?

    These poor poor people having walked thousands of miles and now harrasssed by minor celebrities such as Yentob. Has he lost his freebie tickets for Glastonbury and the big entertaining budget that he squandered?
    Actually maybe it is a secret weapon being deployed by the government. Make it be known that London is full of Yentob's and they might all decide that the UK isn't for them after all.
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    http://order-order.com/2016/03/03/whos-on-question-time-tonight/

    Who is going to make the case for REMAIN? Zoe of course, but John McDonnell?
    Might be worth watching for a cat fight between Louise & Zoe.
    Also how will the cerebral Dominic Raab handle a live audience - also worth watching?
    Is Jermaine in the wrong studio? I may be misjudging.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited March 2016

    http://order-order.com/2016/03/03/whos-on-question-time-tonight/

    Who is going to make the case for REMAIN? Zoe of course, but John McDonnell?
    Might be worth watching for a cat fight between Louise & Zoe.
    Also how will the cerebral Dominic Raab handle a live audience - also worth watching?
    Is Jermaine in the wrong studio? I may be misjudging.

    Jermaine Jenas...you gotta be having a laugh....Serious businessman, nope...academic...nah that won't get the yuff in....lets have Jermaine Jenas....I mean come on if you are going to have a footballer on, Guardian Graham Le Saux has to be your man.

    I am presuming it is 4:1 on Remain vs Stay.
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    nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800

    http://order-order.com/2016/03/03/whos-on-question-time-tonight/

    Who is going to make the case for REMAIN? Zoe of course, but John McDonnell?
    Might be worth watching for a cat fight between Louise & Zoe.
    Also how will the cerebral Dominic Raab handle a live audience - also worth watching?
    Is Jermaine in the wrong studio? I may be misjudging.

    Jeans will be lined up as the ex-footballer to talk about Adam Johnson and the dressing room culture, he must be mad setting himself up for that.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,432
    edited March 2016
    The Times have confirmed to me, that they aren't publishing a YouGov/EURef poll tonight or in the next few days, nor have they commissioned one

    So that Betfair movement must be something else
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited March 2016

    http://order-order.com/2016/03/03/whos-on-question-time-tonight/

    Who is going to make the case for REMAIN? Zoe of course, but John McDonnell?
    Might be worth watching for a cat fight between Louise & Zoe.
    Also how will the cerebral Dominic Raab handle a live audience - also worth watching?
    Is Jermaine in the wrong studio? I may be misjudging.

    Jeans will be lined up as the ex-footballer to talk about Adam Johnson and the dressing room culture, he must be mad setting himself up for that.
    Predictable bollocks...
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    nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800

    The Times have confirmed to me, that they aren't publishing a YouGov/EURef poll tonight or in the next few days, nor have they commissioned one

    So that Betfair movement must be something else

    Bookies leveling their books?
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    http://order-order.com/2016/03/03/whos-on-question-time-tonight/

    Who is going to make the case for REMAIN? Zoe of course, but John McDonnell?
    Might be worth watching for a cat fight between Louise & Zoe.
    Also how will the cerebral Dominic Raab handle a live audience - also worth watching?
    Is Jermaine in the wrong studio? I may be misjudging.

    Jermaine Jenas...you gotta be having a laugh....Serious businessman, nope...academic...nah that won't get the yuff in....lets have Jermaine Jenas....I mean come on if you are going to have a footballer on, Guardian Graham Le Saux has to be your man.

    I am presuming it is 4:1 on Remain vs Stay.
    Actually Jenas formed and runs a charity, helping disadvantaged kids.If they behave, they get tickets to football matches, and other pastoral care.
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    The Times have confirmed to me, that they aren't publishing a YouGov/EURef poll tonight or in the next few days, nor have they commissioned one

    So that Betfair movement must be something else

    Bookies leveling their books?
    Might be, during the Indyref campaign, some companies commissioned polls on the Indyref, we might seeing that too this time
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,190

    http://order-order.com/2016/03/03/whos-on-question-time-tonight/

    Who is going to make the case for REMAIN? Zoe of course, but John McDonnell?
    Might be worth watching for a cat fight between Louise & Zoe.
    Also how will the cerebral Dominic Raab handle a live audience - also worth watching?
    Is Jermaine in the wrong studio? I may be misjudging.

    Samantha Janus knows very little about football so I'm not sure what he'll offer on Question Time.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285

    http://order-order.com/2016/03/03/whos-on-question-time-tonight/

    Who is going to make the case for REMAIN? Zoe of course, but John McDonnell?
    Might be worth watching for a cat fight between Louise & Zoe.
    Also how will the cerebral Dominic Raab handle a live audience - also worth watching?
    Is Jermaine in the wrong studio? I may be misjudging.

    Jermaine Jenas...you gotta be having a laugh....Serious businessman, nope...academic...nah that won't get the yuff in....lets have Jermaine Jenas....I mean come on if you are going to have a footballer on, Guardian Graham Le Saux has to be your man.

    I am presuming it is 4:1 on Remain vs Stay.
    Actually Jenas formed and runs a charity, helping disadvantaged kids.If they behave, they get tickets to football matches, and other pastoral care.
    I know....Craig Bellamy pumps loads of money into an academy in Africa...I don't think he should be on QT either.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    CNN headline:

    Trump: I ruined my carpet endorsing Romney.
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    nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800

    The Times have confirmed to me, that they aren't publishing a YouGov/EURef poll tonight or in the next few days, nor have they commissioned one

    So that Betfair movement must be something else

    Bookies leveling their books?
    Might be, during the Indyref campaign, some companies commissioned polls on the Indyref, we might seeing that too this time
    They may have taken money at 1.33 and are hovering up anything above that.
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    http://order-order.com/2016/03/03/whos-on-question-time-tonight/

    Who is going to make the case for REMAIN? Zoe of course, but John McDonnell?
    Might be worth watching for a cat fight between Louise & Zoe.
    Also how will the cerebral Dominic Raab handle a live audience - also worth watching?
    Is Jermaine in the wrong studio? I may be misjudging.

    Jermaine Jenas...you gotta be having a laugh....Serious businessman, nope...academic...nah that won't get the yuff in....lets have Jermaine Jenas....I mean come on if you are going to have a footballer on, Guardian Graham Le Saux has to be your man.

    I am presuming it is 4:1 on Remain vs Stay.
    Actually Jenas formed and runs a charity, helping disadvantaged kids.If they behave, they get tickets to football matches, and other pastoral care.
    I know....Craig Bellamy pumps loads of money into an academy in Africa...I don't think he should be on QT either.
    I stopped watching Question Time years ago, when it was filmed locally, and the ordinary people asking the questions were party activists and candidates in nearby constituencies.
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    watford30watford30 Posts: 3,474

    Migrants in Greece are set to be handed envelopes of cash under a £550million EU disaster fund announced yesterday.

    Brussels officials said despite the obvious dangers of giving taxpayers’ money directly to those in refugee camps to spend as they wish it would help them ‘maintain their dignity’.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3474417/Migrants-Greece-handed-550million-EU-disaster-fund-maintain-dignity.html

    Looks like the EU have been taking advice from Kids Company / Batwoman on how to run a successful operation.

    They must be insane. If you want to increase the numbers of refugees, that's the way to do it.

    Wait until the news of free cash handouts works it's way to the start of the smuggling line.
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    Congratulations to Laura Trott. World champion
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    tlg86 said:

    http://order-order.com/2016/03/03/whos-on-question-time-tonight/

    Who is going to make the case for REMAIN? Zoe of course, but John McDonnell?
    Might be worth watching for a cat fight between Louise & Zoe.
    Also how will the cerebral Dominic Raab handle a live audience - also worth watching?
    Is Jermaine in the wrong studio? I may be misjudging.

    Samantha Janus knows very little about football so I'm not sure what he'll offer on Question Time.
    Is she the sister of Hugh Janus?
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Congratulations to Laura Trott. World champion

    Watching that race was horrible
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    http://order-order.com/2016/03/03/whos-on-question-time-tonight/

    Who is going to make the case for REMAIN? Zoe of course, but John McDonnell?
    Might be worth watching for a cat fight between Louise & Zoe.
    Also how will the cerebral Dominic Raab handle a live audience - also worth watching?
    Is Jermaine in the wrong studio? I may be misjudging.

    Jermaine Jenas...you gotta be having a laugh....Serious businessman, nope...academic...nah that won't get the yuff in....lets have Jermaine Jenas....I mean come on if you are going to have a footballer on, Guardian Graham Le Saux has to be your man.

    I am presuming it is 4:1 on Remain vs Stay.
    Actually Jenas formed and runs a charity, helping disadvantaged kids.If they behave, they get tickets to football matches, and other pastoral care.
    Thanks, glad he may have something to say.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285

    http://order-order.com/2016/03/03/whos-on-question-time-tonight/

    Who is going to make the case for REMAIN? Zoe of course, but John McDonnell?
    Might be worth watching for a cat fight between Louise & Zoe.
    Also how will the cerebral Dominic Raab handle a live audience - also worth watching?
    Is Jermaine in the wrong studio? I may be misjudging.

    Jermaine Jenas...you gotta be having a laugh....Serious businessman, nope...academic...nah that won't get the yuff in....lets have Jermaine Jenas....I mean come on if you are going to have a footballer on, Guardian Graham Le Saux has to be your man.

    I am presuming it is 4:1 on Remain vs Stay.
    Actually Jenas formed and runs a charity, helping disadvantaged kids.If they behave, they get tickets to football matches, and other pastoral care.
    Thanks, glad he may have something to say.
    You obviously haven't seen him on the football coverage then....I am sure he is a lovely bloke, but bland is too strong a term. The BBC never have to worry about him doing a Clarkson or a Andy Gray.
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