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imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » As doctors stage their 3rd strike Ipsos-MORI finds that they are still getting strong public support

Public support for the third round of junior doctors’ strikes is as high as it was for the first two strikes in January and February, according to new polling from Ipsos MORI.

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  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Hawaii 13% - Trump 42.1% .. Cruz 27.9% .. Rubio 14.7% .. Kasich 14.1%

    CNN
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    In an attempt to make the NHS the safest healthcare system in the world, a new investigation branch modelled on airline accident inquiries will be given legal powers to keep revelations secret. Times frontpage story.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Thought it would be useful to post @MTimT article on biosafety http://www.nature.com/news/biological-research-rethink-biosafety-1.18747
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Hawaii 27% - Trump 46.6% .. Cruz 28.2% .. Rubio 13.1% .. Kasich 10.2%

    CNN
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    JackW said:

    Hawaii 27% - Trump 46.6% .. Cruz 28.2% .. Rubio 13.1% .. Kasich 10.2%

    CNN

    Can Rubio last until Florida? Losing there would be humiliating!

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Can anyone link to how the delegate scores add up?
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    JackW said:

    Hawaii 27% - Trump 46.6% .. Cruz 28.2% .. Rubio 13.1% .. Kasich 10.2%

    CNN

    Can Rubio last until Florida? Losing there would be humiliating!

    Looks like The Boy Wonder gained just 2 delegates last night, Kasich nearer 20...
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    Can anyone link to how the delegate scores add up?

    You can look at my sheet, the Auto tab
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MHRYdL8Lw3L6OXiHnKZHi1vo6vUblQhuKg7FPDFuuQ0/edit?usp=sharing
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    JackW said:

    Hawaii 27% - Trump 46.6% .. Cruz 28.2% .. Rubio 13.1% .. Kasich 10.2%

    CNN

    Can Rubio last until Florida? Losing there would be humiliating!

    Yes. Rubio's whole strategy now is Florida or bust.

    Even in the unlikely event of Rubio winning his home state, and the polls have narrowed, his performance elsewhere is dire. It's almost a vanity project for him now.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 12,698
    edited March 2016
    Yesterday on the Referendum fromt .........

    Boris appears trying to hide under a wooly hat after his unfortunate email was made public-and by all accounts his staff were queuing up to reveal it-but he came out fighting."LOOORHAHAHMMMCHOOHMMCHORRRMM" he boomed into the microphones ..........

    ..........Then a shock appearance by Nigel Lawson looking ever more the pantomime dame to give Laura Kuinsberg the scoop that explained it all.... "Mark Carney is after a job at Goldman Sacks"

    Another successful day for the LEAVERS FiINEST ended with 'Lurch' himself........

    Jacob Rees Mogg looking like a Dickensian grave digger informed the select committee that Mark Carney had 'demeaned the office of Governor and were beneath his dignity'



    ('One Flew Over The Cuckoos's Nest' is showing on a screen near you)
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    The problem for the doctors is the government can sit this out while new contracts are imposed when jobs are changed. The problem for the Conservative Party is they'll lose a lot of votes from the medical profession. It is not really clear why or how Jeremy Hunt landed himself in this mess, as he was doing quite well at not being Andrew Lansley. It's reminiscent of Michael Gove alienating people who started off on his side.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    You'd have to have a heart of stone not to feel for @Cromwell .... :smile:
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 31,660
    Hillary's massive win in Mississippi once again means she increases her lead in delegates but her narrow loss in Michigan also shows that there are significant parts of the Democratic party that are just not moved by her at all. Will they all come on board for the General or will some like the equally anti-establishment voice of Trump? I think it is on this that November turns.

    Meanwhile Rubio is now just embarrassing himself.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    JackW said:

    Hawaii 27% - Trump 46.6% .. Cruz 28.2% .. Rubio 13.1% .. Kasich 10.2%

    CNN

    How bad is Kasich that he still trails this field of "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists" (to borrow a phrase from our esteemed Prime Minister)?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    RodCrosby said:

    Can anyone link to how the delegate scores add up?

    You can look at my sheet, the Auto tab
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MHRYdL8Lw3L6OXiHnKZHi1vo6vUblQhuKg7FPDFuuQ0/edit?usp=sharing
    Thanks. I appreciate what a lot of work has gone in.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    DavidL said:

    Hillary's massive win in Mississippi once again means she increases her lead in delegates but her narrow loss in Michigan also shows that there are significant parts of the Democratic party that are just not moved by her at all. Will they all come on board for the General or will some like the equally anti-establishment voice of Trump? I think it is on this that November turns.

    Meanwhile Rubio is now just embarrassing himself.

    According to 538, exit polls show Hillary leads among actual Democrats but Sanders has the independents, and, like Trump and the SNP, he is getting non-voters to vote.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Hawaii 36% - Trump 44.4% .. Cruz 31.3% .. Rubio 13% .. Kasich 9.5%

    CNN
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    As a loyal servant to Her Majesty I am delighted and not in the least surprised she is for Brexit.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    JackW said:

    Hawaii 27% - Trump 46.6% .. Cruz 28.2% .. Rubio 13.1% .. Kasich 10.2%

    CNN

    How bad is Kasich that he still trails this field of "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists" (to borrow a phrase from our esteemed Prime Minister)?
    It simply reflects the nature of the GOP vote. In Republican terms Kasich is the moderate middle of the road candidate and it simply doesn't resonate with huge swathes of the GOP.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 12,698

    As a loyal servant to Her Majesty I am delighted and not in the least surprised she is for Brexit.

    Neither am I. There's a new EU directive that no one can have a house with more than 30 bedrooms.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 31,660

    DavidL said:

    Hillary's massive win in Mississippi once again means she increases her lead in delegates but her narrow loss in Michigan also shows that there are significant parts of the Democratic party that are just not moved by her at all. Will they all come on board for the General or will some like the equally anti-establishment voice of Trump? I think it is on this that November turns.

    Meanwhile Rubio is now just embarrassing himself.

    According to 538, exit polls show Hillary leads among actual Democrats but Sanders has the independents, and, like Trump and the SNP, he is getting non-voters to vote.
    To be voting for a self proclaimed socialist like Sanders they must be very left/democratic leaning independents that a Democratic candidate would normally be able to count on. I think Hillary is going to find the rust belt states seriously hard work with white blue collar workers showing particularly little enthusiasm.

    Given her very strong performance in the south she will still be the nominee but come the general really important states like Ohio (esp if Kasich is on the ticket), Michigan, Minnesota
    and maybe even Illinois will be a major battleground.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @smashmorePH: Tory MP Peter Bone tells Today prog Mark Carney may want to consider his position as governor of the Bank of England.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 41,070
    What possible reason could republican BREXITeer, Murdoch have for landing the queen in deep doo doo?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 12,698
    Scott_P said:

    @smashmorePH: Tory MP Peter Bone tells Today prog Mark Carney may want to consider his position as governor of the Bank of England.

    It just gets better!
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Time to call Hawaii for Trump, I think.
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    Roger said:

    As a loyal servant to Her Majesty I am delighted and not in the least surprised she is for Brexit.

    Neither am I. There's a new EU directive that no one can have a house with more than 30 bedrooms.
    That doesn't surprise me, no doubt they'll be installing CCTV in every home just in case. Might cause a few problems for some of the luvvies you fawn over though Rog.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 19,198

    The problem for the doctors is the government can sit this out while new contracts are imposed when jobs are changed. The problem for the Conservative Party is they'll lose a lot of votes from the medical profession. It is not really clear why or how Jeremy Hunt landed himself in this mess, as he was doing quite well at not being Andrew Lansley. It's reminiscent of Michael Gove alienating people who started off on his side.

    The new contracts will be imposed in August where political news is low on the agenda and experience will be reported around the Party Conference season, where complaints will be drowned out by the general noise.
    In any event maximum political difficulty will be well away from an election season.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Hillary's massive win in Mississippi once again means she increases her lead in delegates but her narrow loss in Michigan also shows that there are significant parts of the Democratic party that are just not moved by her at all. Will they all come on board for the General or will some like the equally anti-establishment voice of Trump? I think it is on this that November turns.

    Meanwhile Rubio is now just embarrassing himself.

    According to 538, exit polls show Hillary leads among actual Democrats but Sanders has the independents, and, like Trump and the SNP, he is getting non-voters to vote.
    To be voting for a self proclaimed socialist like Sanders they must be very left/democratic leaning independents that a Democratic candidate would normally be able to count on. I think Hillary is going to find the rust belt states seriously hard work with white blue collar workers showing particularly little enthusiasm.

    Given her very strong performance in the south she will still be the nominee but come the general really important states like Ohio (esp if Kasich is on the ticket), Michigan, Minnesota
    and maybe even Illinois will be a major battleground.
    An incorrect reading.

    Come November "very left/democratic leaning democratic independents" will vote for any Democrat over Trump.

    There will be some WWC seepage to Trump but it is a diminishing demographic who are less likely to vote and Trump will be sunk by the female vote who do turn out and where Trumps negatives are vast.

    There is no chance that Illinois will be a major battleground.
  • volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078

    What possible reason could republican BREXITeer, Murdoch have for landing the queen in deep doo doo?
    The Sun could just have started a constitutional crisis.World markets are already wobbly so this fuelling of Brexit doubts is likely to add to the volatility.Expect the pound to slide.
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    Oh btw have we finished that game of migrant top trumps with Turkey yet - the one where we exchange some of the people they don't want for some of the people we don't want?

    Eh, good job all you Remainers are FOR freedom of movement, wouldn't want to exclude anybody would we.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Hawaii 51% - Trump 45.2% .. Cruz 31.3% .. Rubio 12% .. Kasich 10%

    CNN
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Kasich now third favourite for the nom on BF.

    Rubio has gone hockey-stick...
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492

    What possible reason could republican BREXITeer, Murdoch have for landing the queen in deep doo doo?
    The Sun could just have started a constitutional crisis.World markets are already wobbly so this fuelling of Brexit doubts is likely to add to the volatility.Expect the pound to slide.
    Yes this is a real danger, world markets are ultimatey led by the headline in The Sun.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    CNN calls Hawaii for Trump.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Sir George Martin has died aged 90.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    JackW said:

    CNN calls Hawaii for Trump.

    Slow-coaches...
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Scott_P said:

    @smashmorePH: Tory MP Peter Bone tells Today prog Mark Carney may want to consider his position as governor of the Bank of England.

    But what does Mrs Bone think ?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    edited March 2016

    Oh btw have we finished that game of migrant top trumps with Turkey yet - the one where we exchange some of the people they don't want for some of the people we don't want?

    Eh, good job all you Remainers are FOR freedom of movement, wouldn't want to exclude anybody would we.

    We are not in Schengen and have an opt out.
  • runnymederunnymede Posts: 2,536
    'Tory MP Peter Bone tells Today prog Mark Carney may want to consider his position as governor of the Bank of England'

    He is doing, isn't he? :)
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Is Carney still waiting to see if the unemployment rate drops below 7% by 2016?
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 15,267
    My Kasich trading will have to go down as my worst political trading ever given his price moves now.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 12,698
    Wings Over Whitehall.

    In a shock poll 92% of the Royal family have come out for Brexit.

    "I wouldn't trust the Krauts as far as I could throw them" said Her Royal Highness Baroness Marie-Christine Anne Agnes Hedwig, Ida, Princess Michael of Kent.
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 8,482
    runnymede said:

    'Tory MP Peter Bone tells Today prog Mark Carney may want to consider his position as governor of the Bank of England'

    He is doing, isn't he? :)

    This is the "I remain a Tory, but Ukip is a good thing" Peter Bone.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/20/peter-bone-not-defecting-ukip-tory-eu-referendum
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492

    Oh btw have we finished that game of migrant top trumps with Turkey yet - the one where we exchange some of the people they don't want for some of the people we don't want?

    Eh, good job all you Remainers are FOR freedom of movement, wouldn't want to exclude anybody would we.

    We are not in Schengen and have an opt out.
    All seems a bit racist to me, bunging Turkey a few billion to keep people out.

    Remind me foxy - I thought you were FOR freedom of movement?
  • asjohnstoneasjohnstone Posts: 1,276
    RodCrosby said:

    Sir George Martin has died aged 90.

    When I first read it I thought you'd meant George R R Martin was dead and Game of Thrones wasn't going to be finished.

    Now I'm sad, but a bit relieved.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 60,345
    Alistair said:

    My Kasich trading will have to go down as my worst political trading ever given his price moves now.

    Both him and Rubio are totally busted. But if they happen to win OH/FL....

  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 31,660
    JackW said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Hillary's massive win in Mississippi once again means she increases her lead in delegates but her narrow loss in Michigan also shows that there are significant parts of the Democratic party that are just not moved by her at all. Will they all come on board for the General or will some like the equally anti-establishment voice of Trump? I think it is on this that November turns.

    Meanwhile Rubio is now just embarrassing himself.

    According to 538, exit polls show Hillary leads among actual Democrats but Sanders has the independents, and, like Trump and the SNP, he is getting non-voters to vote.
    To be voting for a self proclaimed socialist like Sanders they must be very left/democratic leaning independents that a Democratic candidate would normally be able to count on. I think Hillary is going to find the rust belt states seriously hard work with white blue collar workers showing particularly little enthusiasm.

    Given her very strong performance in the south she will still be the nominee but come the general really important states like Ohio (esp if Kasich is on the ticket), Michigan, Minnesota
    and maybe even Illinois will be a major battleground.
    An incorrect reading.

    Come November "very left/democratic leaning democratic independents" will vote for any Democrat over Trump.

    There will be some WWC seepage to Trump but it is a diminishing demographic who are less likely to vote and Trump will be sunk by the female vote who do turn out and where Trumps negatives are vast.

    There is no chance that Illinois will be a major battleground.
    Illinois has been democrat since 92 so it shouldn't be but Hillary is just not enthusing important parts of her base. Too establishment, too connected to Wall Street money, too compromised by a long career. I remain of the view that she will find Trump a real handful in what looks like an anti-establishment election. Surprising results are possible with such an unconventional candidate.
  • volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    Bernie has been backed overnight.Should Hillary fall under an FBI bus,it's still worth backing Democrat to win 1-2 as Hillary to win is at the same price.If Bernie is the Dem candidate,he is polling better than Hillary on head-to-heads with Trump and Cruz.
    Very happy with my 4-5 on the Dems.That's my one and only bet for POTUS and I'm holding.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 28,773

    What possible reason could republican BREXITeer, Murdoch have for landing the queen in deep doo doo?
    The Sun could just have started a constitutional crisis.World markets are already wobbly so this fuelling of Brexit doubts is likely to add to the volatility.Expect the pound to slide.
    The Sun aren't that powerful.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 19,198
    runnymede said:

    'Tory MP Peter Bone tells Today prog Mark Carney may want to consider his position as governor of the Bank of England'

    He is doing, isn't he? :)

    Surely all Carney said was that as a result of a Brexit there would be uncertainty and the markets wouldn’t like it. They never like such situations.

    Of course if Peter Bone would tell us what was going to happen after Brexit, then there would be less concern in the markets.
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    Roger said:

    Yesterday on the Referendum fromt .........

    Boris appears trying to hide under a wooly hat after his unfortunate email was made public-and by all accounts his staff were queuing up to reveal it-but he came out fighting."LOOORHAHAHMMMCHOOHMMCHORRRMM" he boomed into the microphones ..........

    ..........Then a shock appearance by Nigel Lawson looking ever more the pantomime dame to give Laura Kuinsberg the scoop that explained it all.... "Mark Carney is after a job at Goldman Sacks"

    Another successful day for the LEAVERS FiINEST ended with 'Lurch' himself........

    Jacob Rees Mogg looking like a Dickensian grave digger informed the select committee that Mark Carney had 'demeaned the office of Governor and were beneath his dignity'



    ('One Flew Over The Cuckoos's Nest' is showing on a screen near you)

    Showing nearer you than me.
  • runnymederunnymede Posts: 2,536
    More details on Project Fear here inc.

    'dinners at the German embassy in London which are being held to influence UK-based opinion formers including BBC staff'


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3483278/Anti-EU-business-chief-knifed-Downing-Street-gives-angry-revealing-interview.html
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 60,345
    edited March 2016
    SCORES FOR THE NIGHT:

    Trump 9/10 - Everything except Eye da Hoe

    Cruz 7/10 - Some unexpected seconds. Idaho.

    Sanders 7/10 - Looks to have avoided the 15% cutoff in Ms, sensational win it looks like in Michigan. Still not doing enough with the delegate totals, but some promise in the rust belt now. Bernie supporters will be pumped by this one.

    Hillary 5/10 - Mathematically fine. Optically... not so good. She looks to be utterly WEAK AS PISS in the states that actually matter. Warning signs for the general methinks in Michigan. Ms isn't going blue.

    Kasich 3/10 - 3rd place in Michigan is dire behind Ted Cruz for a man basing his entire strategy on rust belt/New England.

    Rubi ZerOH DEAR.

    I'm not even ruling Rubio out winning Florida given this utterly crazy season thus far.

    The GOP establishment lies in tatters, and it's clear the Democrats have a very poor frontrunner on their hands now we're moving out of Dixie.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    DavidL said:

    JackW said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Hillary's massive win in Mississippi once again means she increases her lead in delegates but her narrow loss in Michigan also shows that there are significant parts of the Democratic party that are just not moved by her at all. Will they all come on board for the General or will some like the equally anti-establishment voice of Trump? I think it is on this that November turns.

    Meanwhile Rubio is now just embarrassing himself.

    According to 538, exit polls show Hillary leads among actual Democrats but Sanders has the independents, and, like Trump and the SNP, he is getting non-voters to vote.
    To be voting for a self proclaimed socialist like Sanders they must be very left/democratic leaning independents that a Democratic candidate would normally be able to count on. I think Hillary is going to find the rust belt states seriously hard work with white blue collar workers showing particularly little enthusiasm.

    Given her very strong performance in the south she will still be the nominee but come the general really important states like Ohio (esp if Kasich is on the ticket), Michigan, Minnesota
    and maybe even Illinois will be a major battleground.
    An incorrect reading.

    Come November "very left/democratic leaning democratic independents" will vote for any Democrat over Trump.

    There will be some WWC seepage to Trump but it is a diminishing demographic who are less likely to vote and Trump will be sunk by the female vote who do turn out and where Trumps negatives are vast.

    There is no chance that Illinois will be a major battleground.
    Illinois has been democrat since 92 so it shouldn't be but Hillary is just not enthusing important parts of her base. Too establishment, too connected to Wall Street money, too compromised by a long career. I remain of the view that she will find Trump a real handful in what looks like an anti-establishment election. Surprising results are possible with such an unconventional candidate.
    Tell me where Trump will extend his base ?

    Blacks, Hispanics, Women, Moderates, Independents, College Educated?

    Winning the GOP nomination is one thing but appealing to voters most likely to vote is another. The GOP establishment know Trump is a disaster for November but they were blindsided and outflanked by the Trump insurgency and reacted too little too late.

    The race for the GOP nomination is over and with it any chance the GOP had of beating Clinton.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 60,345
    I've backed Sanders in Ohio at around 7-1 off the back of this lot.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 12,698
    Who'd have thought UK politics might get interesting again after the emasculation of the opposition. Who could have imagined it would only take two months for the Tories to fill the void by splitting in two. If Corbyn survives long enough to ensure the end of Labour we might be seeing the future.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @Sargon_of_Akkad: Well played, Private Eye. #brexit https://t.co/MFzWlm2c6X
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 60,345
    Alistair said:

    My Kasich trading will have to go down as my worst political trading ever given his price moves now.

    Well I covered Rubio and Kasich the other day. Then laid Kasich some I guess.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Ho hum
    Cambridge University agrees to remove Benin Bronze cockerel from the dining hall at Jesus College after students complained about its links to Britain's colonial past

    Jesus College said it will take down the Benin Bronze from its dining hall
    Last month students called for statue be returned to royal palace in Nigeria
    The cockerel statue was looted during 19th century British naval expedition

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3482654/Cambridge-University-agrees-remove-Benin-Bronze-cockerel-dining-hall-Jesus-College.html#ixzz42OHyUjZo
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Owing to its bizarre rounding rules, it's looking like Rubio will win just 1 delegate in Hawaii, his sole delegate of the night from anywhere...
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    Ho hum

    Cambridge University agrees to remove Benin Bronze cockerel from the dining hall at Jesus College after students complained about its links to Britain's colonial past

    Jesus College said it will take down the Benin Bronze from its dining hall
    Last month students called for statue be returned to royal palace in Nigeria
    The cockerel statue was looted during 19th century British naval expedition

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3482654/Cambridge-University-agrees-remove-Benin-Bronze-cockerel-dining-hall-Jesus-College.html#ixzz42OHyUjZo
    I'd make them eat it.
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    runnymede said:

    More details on Project Fear here inc.

    'dinners at the German embassy in London which are being held to influence UK-based opinion formers including BBC staff'


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3483278/Anti-EU-business-chief-knifed-Downing-Street-gives-angry-revealing-interview.html

    Project Blackmail would be more apt.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    RodCrosby said:

    Owing to its bizarre rounding rules, it's looking like Rubio will win just 1 delegate in Hawaii, his sole delegate of the night from anywhere...

    All hail the @Cromwell One (Delegate).
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 19,198
    Given the general disdain for the Daily Mail on here, it’s surprising how many seem to read it!
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    @Plato_Says

    After yesterdays Carney spat at The Select Committee and your espoused LEAVE stance I take it that Jacob Rees-Moggy is your favourite MP? .... :smile:
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    Given the general disdain for the Daily Mail on here, it’s surprising how many seem to read it!

    Know thy enemy.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Detectives hounding soldiers over their role in the Iraq War are probing 40 new claims made by 'ambulance chasing' lawyers.

    David Cameron has promised a crackdown on the legal 'witch-hunt' against troops 13 years after the 2003 invasion.

    But new figures show that the number of cases being examined by the £57million 145-strong Iraq Historic Allegations Team (IHAT) has risen to 1,555.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3483210/Hundreds-British-troops-dragged-legal-witch-hunt-Detectives-probing-40-new-claims-ambulance-chasing-lawyers.html
  • runnymederunnymede Posts: 2,536
    'David Cameron has promised...'

    Perhaps best to stop there
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Any politician with Mogg in his surname is *swoons*
    JackW said:

    @Plato_Says

    After yesterdays Carney spat at The Select Committee and your espoused LEAVE stance I take it that Jacob Rees-Moggy is your favourite MP? .... :smile:

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @hugorifkind: I suspect a correlation between a)people who give a toss what the Queen thinks of politics, and b)people who'd probably vote Brexit anyway.
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    Pulpstar said:

    I've backed Sanders in Ohio at around 7-1 off the back of this lot.

    The polling looks very similar doesn't it?

    Whereas Hillary seems to be further ahead in Illinois, but I wonder about that too. One shouldn't overreact though. Unless one should.
  • LondonBobLondonBob Posts: 467
    Again a great night for Trump, shame he didn't quite get the 50% in Mississippi.

    Bad omens in Michigan for the Democrats, Trump won Macomb county big, Reagan Democrats turning out. Sanders Clinton slog fest will continue, two weak candidates unable to put the other away. Sanders attracting voters with similar policies to Trump on foreign policy, trade and DC corruption.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 60,345
    edited March 2016
    Wanderer said:

    Pulpstar said:

    I've backed Sanders in Ohio at around 7-1 off the back of this lot.

    The polling looks very similar doesn't it?

    Whereas Hillary seems to be further ahead in Illinois, but I wonder about that too. One shouldn't overreact though. Unless one should.
    Ohio looks better because it is less black. Still a complete mountain but I think Bernie trades higher now than he did last night.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/112R0zDRQLC2cxE1op0TY-IBq_PTtcxpwgfbu87DI45w/edit#gid=0

    Ohio should be easier in theory than Michigan. And certainly Illinois.

    The only clear winner last night was DONALD J TRUMP
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 11,928
    Scott_P said:

    @hugorifkind: I suspect a correlation between a)people who give a toss what the Queen thinks of politics, and b)people who'd probably vote Brexit anyway.

    Remain chucking their toys out of the pram.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    LondonBob said:

    Again a great night for Trump, shame he didn't quite get the 50% in Mississippi.

    He did manage 50% in one CD, but there was no equivalent statewide rule in any case. The statewide delegates would still be proportionally allocated even if Trump had exceeded 50%...
  • NorfolkTilIDieNorfolkTilIDie Posts: 1,268
    If John Longworth is correct that business leaders have been threatened with losing govt contracts then heads should roll. Thats political corruption at the highest order.
  • runnymederunnymede Posts: 2,536
    Remain chucking their toys out of the pram.

    Perhaps they will respond by getting the Archbishop of Canterbury to claim God favours REMAIN
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 11,928

    RodCrosby said:

    Sir George Martin has died aged 90.

    When I first read it I thought you'd meant George R R Martin was dead and Game of Thrones wasn't going to be finished.

    Now I'm sad, but a bit relieved.
    My sentiments lie in the opposite direction.

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 31,859
    runnymede said:

    Remain chucking their toys out of the pram.

    Perhaps they will respond by getting the Archbishop of Canterbury to claim God favours REMAIN

    Actually, it's pretty obvious he favours Leave by the way he's sending cold weather to douse the Remainers.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 55,331

    Scott_P said:

    @hugorifkind: I suspect a correlation between a)people who give a toss what the Queen thinks of politics, and b)people who'd probably vote Brexit anyway.

    Remain chucking their toys out of the pram.
    It would uncharacteristic of both sides in this debate to not act like whiny babies. Even more than politics as usual the level of partisan whinging, so early on, has been remarkable - the most minor of standard political opposition has been decried as unconscionable smearing for example, it's pathetic.

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 31,859

    Any politician with Mogg in his surname is *swoons*

    JackW said:

    @Plato_Says

    After yesterdays Carney spat at The Select Committee and your espoused LEAVE stance I take it that Jacob Rees-Moggy is your favourite MP? .... :smile:

    He had my job before I had my job :lol:
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    Any politician with Mogg in his surname is *swoons*

    JackW said:

    @Plato_Says

    After yesterdays Carney spat at The Select Committee and your espoused LEAVE stance I take it that Jacob Rees-Moggy is your favourite MP? .... :smile:

    I knew my post would give you paws for thought.
  • NorfolkTilIDieNorfolkTilIDie Posts: 1,268
    Daniel Korski who allegedly blackmailed business leaders to sign No 10's letter phoned the BCC to complain about Longworth an hour before they decided to suspend him:


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12186850/Exclusive-David-Cameron-aide-complained-about-John-Longworth-to-British-Chambers-of-Commerce-hours-before-he-was-suspended.html

    What threats were made??
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 11,928
    JackW said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Owing to its bizarre rounding rules, it's looking like Rubio will win just 1 delegate in Hawaii, his sole delegate of the night from anywhere...

    All hail the @Cromwell One (Delegate).
    RUBIO RISING as he used to say.
  • As a loyal servant to Her Majesty I am delighted and not in the least surprised she is for Brexit.

    I thought her loyal servants were her household staff. I think you mean "subject". If you really were loyal you'd probably bother to get your terminology right.

  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2016
    A good night for romney/ryan.

    Well, an awful night for any sane GOP'er, actually, but their prospects of being the last-ditch non-cruz/non-trump candidate improved a bit.

    I'm no longer prepared to lay their combined odds above 50/1 (or 100/1 each) - I had previously been laying small amounts up to 200/1.

    2% chance one of them emerges from a brokered convention as the only viable GOP option to take to the general looks about right.

    Say it ain't so.

    BTW, yes I am talking up my book. This is not a tip. etc. etc.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    JackW said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Owing to its bizarre rounding rules, it's looking like Rubio will win just 1 delegate in Hawaii, his sole delegate of the night from anywhere...

    All hail the @Cromwell One (Delegate).
    RUBIO RISING as he used to say.
    He did.

    Rubio rising by one delegate overnight. Clearly a game changer.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 31,859
    kle4 said:

    Scott_P said:

    @hugorifkind: I suspect a correlation between a)people who give a toss what the Queen thinks of politics, and b)people who'd probably vote Brexit anyway.

    Remain chucking their toys out of the pram.
    It would uncharacteristic of both sides in this debate to not act like whiny babies. Even more than politics as usual the level of partisan whinging, so early on, has been remarkable - the most minor of standard political opposition has been decried as unconscionable smearing for example, it's pathetic.

    It's utterly unedifying. Lies and scare stories from both sides.

    I'm a committed Leaver (albeit EFTA/EEA), but the Turkey scare stories rank up there with "3 million jobs" or "increasing our influence in the world" or "this is a good deal", etc.
  • LondonBobLondonBob Posts: 467
    edited March 2016
    RodCrosby said:

    LondonBob said:

    Again a great night for Trump, shame he didn't quite get the 50% in Mississippi.

    He did manage 50% in one CD, but there was no equivalent statewide rule in any case. The statewide delegates would still be proportionally allocated even if Trump had exceeded 50%...
    I was hoping for two or three CDs, must have come awful close.

    Apparently a lot of ex military in the Hawaii Republican voter base, hence the victory. I was worried Cruz would be bussing in Mormons or something. Cruz likely to come under sustained Trump attack now.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 60,345
    Pong said:

    A good night for romney/ryan.

    Well, an awful night for any sane GOP'er, actually, but their prospects of being the last-ditch non-cruz/non-trump candidate improved a bit.

    I'm no longer prepared to lay their combined odds above 50/1 (or 100/1 each) - I had previously been laying small amounts up to 200/1.

    2% chance one of them emerges from a brokered convention as the only viable GOP option to take to the general looks about right.

    Say it ain't so.

    BTW, yes I am talking up my book. This is not a tip. etc. etc.

    I think Kasich's third in Michigan was the best bit of the night for Trump, a strong showing for Ted in Ohio perhaps means Trump wins it.
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    edited March 2016
    Where's the optimism in the case for remaining in the EU? The case to say everything will improve if we stay in?
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 14,675
    Interesting detail from MI - in the end, Clinton won big in Wayne, which I understand is strongly Hispanic, but only by a fractional 2% in Macomb, which I understand is strongly African-American?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 53,828
    Good morning, everyone.

    Still over a month until we have an official Leave campaign...
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    JackW said:

    JackW said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Owing to its bizarre rounding rules, it's looking like Rubio will win just 1 delegate in Hawaii, his sole delegate of the night from anywhere...

    All hail the @Cromwell One (Delegate).
    RUBIO RISING as he used to say.
    He did.

    Rubio rising by one delegate overnight. Clearly a game changer.
    1, out of 150 up for grabs...
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 11,928
    edited March 2016
    rcs1000 said:

    kle4 said:

    Scott_P said:

    @hugorifkind: I suspect a correlation between a)people who give a toss what the Queen thinks of politics, and b)people who'd probably vote Brexit anyway.

    Remain chucking their toys out of the pram.
    It would uncharacteristic of both sides in this debate to not act like whiny babies. Even more than politics as usual the level of partisan whinging, so early on, has been remarkable - the most minor of standard political opposition has been decried as unconscionable smearing for example, it's pathetic.

    It's utterly unedifying. Lies and scare stories from both sides.

    I'm a committed Leaver (albeit EFTA/EEA), but the Turkey scare stories rank up there with "3 million jobs" or "increasing our influence in the world" or "this is a good deal", etc.
    Quite right too. What's the point of one side standing aloof whilst the other liberally sprays mud? There are no points for propriety, as Trump proves.

  • watford30watford30 Posts: 3,474
    edited March 2016

    runnymede said:

    More details on Project Fear here inc.

    'dinners at the German embassy in London which are being held to influence UK-based opinion formers including BBC staff'


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3483278/Anti-EU-business-chief-knifed-Downing-Street-gives-angry-revealing-interview.html

    Project Blackmail would be more apt.
    Cameron, Crosby and Korski. Blair, Campbell and McBride. Like peas in a pod. Is anyone surprised?
  • runnymederunnymede Posts: 2,536
    'It's utterly unedifying. Lies and scare stories from both sides.'

    What really depresses me is the fact that politics is still being run in the UK by scum like Korski. In this respect, the misrule of Blair and Campbell has never ended. There is no danger whatever of us getting back to serious politics when people like this dominate the process.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    I'd no idea he was on £200k - that's a huge salary to give up.

    Daniel Korski who allegedly blackmailed business leaders to sign No 10's letter phoned the BCC to complain about Longworth an hour before they decided to suspend him:


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12186850/Exclusive-David-Cameron-aide-complained-about-John-Longworth-to-British-Chambers-of-Commerce-hours-before-he-was-suspended.html

    What threats were made??

  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    edited March 2016

    Interesting detail from MI - in the end, Clinton won big in Wayne, which I understand is strongly Hispanic, but only by a fractional 2% in Macomb, which I understand is strongly African-American?

    The exit poll indicated Clinton won AA 2:1.

    Sanders worked the better college educated AA well and got some important endorsements. There was also some complacency in the Clinton camp. Delegate wise Michigan was almost a wash but Clinton's huge win in Mississippi means she extends her delegate lead further.
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