'On Thursday, are we really going to hand the world's greatest city to a Conservative candidate who can't even proof check the photos featured in an article he's put his name to?'
Sunder Katwala @sundersays Zac:"I'd run completely different campaign if they'd chosen David Lammy.Would have been about issues.I'm up against a real danger to London"
Stephen Bush @stephenkb May 2 Stephen Bush Retweeted Sunder Katwala It's true. Against Lammy it would have been about stop and search, the London riots, merit not diversity.
'On Thursday, are we really going to hand the world's greatest city to a Conservative candidate who can't even proof check the photos featured in an article he's put his name to?'
It's a disgrace, but suspect this campaign is being used to road test some ideas for mud to sling at Corbyn and McDonnell in 2020.
FPT..Fenster..Sorry old boy but every word is true..The Exec asked me to stay the course or the film would be dropped...I was a very busy lad in those days and had no time,energy, to pursue idiots in the court...let em stew
Sunder Katwala @sundersays Zac:"I'd run completely different campaign if they'd chosen David Lammy.Would have been about issues.I'm up against a real danger to London"
Stephen Bush @stephenkb May 2 Stephen Bush Retweeted Sunder Katwala It's true. Against Lammy it would have been about stop and search, the London riots, merit not diversity.
Deary me. I think Zac might be on for an even bigger shellacking than expected.
FPT..Fenster..Sorry old boy but every word is true..The Exec asked me to stay the course or the film would be dropped...I was a very busy lad in those days and had no time,energy, to pursue idiots in the court...let em stew
I'm very sorry to hear it.. But I can assure you you'd be very welcome in the Valleys, English or not! Most people round here are very friendly..
The implicit assumed offence - he's getting at me and my kind - is at the heart of the problem. There is no general attack on muslims, only on extremists and their fellow travellers and apologists. And given the events of this last week, rightly so.
'On Thursday, are we really going to hand the world's greatest city to a Conservative candidate who can't even proof check the photos featured in an article he's put his name to?'
Since when did writers proof-check articles? They have subs for that - and Photo Editors for photos.....
The implicit assumed offence - he's getting at me and my kind - is at the heart of the problem. There is no general attack on muslims, only on extremists and their fellow travellers and apologists. And given the events of this last week, rightly so.
The shrieking of the left here makes me wonder if Zac's message is getting through.
I was going to start mine with "dreary me"- instead I went for the more straightforward "surely not?" The Khan attack stuff is pure satire with the intellectual rigour of a dead slug.
On the Tory member's home polling whore's drawers springs to mind. They are up and down a lot aren't they?
Sunder Katwala @sundersays Zac:"I'd run completely different campaign if they'd chosen David Lammy.Would have been about issues.I'm up against a real danger to London"
Stephen Bush @stephenkb May 2 Stephen Bush Retweeted Sunder Katwala It's true. Against Lammy it would have been about stop and search, the London riots, merit not diversity.
Deary me. I think Zac might be on for an even bigger shellacking than expected.
The implicit assumed offence - he's getting at me and my kind - is at the heart of the problem. There is no general attack on muslims, only on extremists and their fellow travellers and apologists. And given the events of this last week, rightly so.
Whether you want to admit it or not, the suggestion throughout the campaign has been that you can't trust Khan simply because he's Muslim. Especially since it's been established Goldsmith has just as many supposed "links" to the extremists as Khan does (including Goldsmith being photographed at a camapign event with one of the people who Khan has been implicated with) -- the sole difference is that Khan has a brown face.
Stephen Crabb at 32 on BF looks good to me, I think he has the right "story" and background to be leader.
He does but he's one of the most enthusiastic Remainers in the whole cabinet.
I'm not sure if that will play in his favour.
It really depends on the result, if it is Leave then it won't matter, if it is Remain then he will need Dave to hold on for a few years and stitch the party back together and for the EU to not publish an incendiary paper on formation of an EU army from which Britain would not be exempt or be allowed to veto/opt-out of.
I like Gove personally but he's not popular electorally is he? It would be IDS all over again, electorally at least. A lot of the Tory party don't seem to learn from their (recent) history.
Depressing article, thought that Zac would be above that sort of thing.
On the Tory leadership, wonder why Fallon never gets a mention.
I've mentioned/tipped him in a thread header.
People generally laughed and mocked me.
I did neither but can't see him as a serious contender.
The John Major of our era. Has no enemies, doesn't inspire loathing, quietly competent on a front Corbyn is weak, and is quiet prepared to kick his opponents in the goolies
Stephen Crabb at 32 on BF looks good to me, I think he has the right "story" and background to be leader.
He does but he's one of the most enthusiastic Remainers in the whole cabinet.
I'm not sure if that will play in his favour.
It really depends on the result, if it is Leave then it won't matter, if it is Remain then he will need Dave to hold on for a few years and stitch the party back together and for the EU to not publish an incendiary paper on formation of an EU army from which Britain would not be exempt or be allowed to veto/opt-out of.
I think in a world where Conservative members and activists break 2:1 in favour of Leave, and Conservative voters by 55:45 to Leave, any prospective Conservative leader is going to have to tell a good story about their euroscepticism, even if Remain win handsomely.
The implicit assumed offence - he's getting at me and my kind - is at the heart of the problem. There is no general attack on muslims, only on extremists and their fellow travellers and apologists. And given the events of this last week, rightly so.
Whether you want to admit it or not, the suggestion throughout the campaign has been that you can't trust Khan simply because he's Muslim. Especially since it's been established Goldsmith has just as many supposed "links" to the extremists as Khan does (including Goldsmith being photographed at a camapign event with one of the people who Khan has been implicated with) -- the sole difference is that Khan has a brown face.
A random photo vs support, two members of the Lutfur Rahman campaign, hired a person who had previously called the murder of Lee Rigby an MI5 conspiracy and defended a person who was later convicted of supporting and aiding terrorists and is close to an Imam who has called for a boycott of Ahmadi shops and businesses.
Islamists are fellow travellers for Sadiq, he hires them and has them as friends. Pointing this out is not racist, just like pointing out that Labour have an antisemitism issue because they pander to Muslims in order to get Muslim votes. The Mirror, of all papers, ran an article on it.
I like Gove personally but he's not popular electorally is he? It would be IDS all over again, electorally at least. A lot of the Tory party don't seem to learn from their (recent) history.
Ironically Gove would be a continuity Cameron candidate.
'On Thursday, are we really going to hand the world's greatest city to a Conservative candidate who can't even proof check the photos featured in an article he's put his name to?'
Since when did writers proof-check articles? They have subs for that - and Photo Editors for photos.....
Ah, right. Team Zac: 'Yeah, we've put some of the usual Sadiq Bin Laden stuff together, just put Zac's name on the byline. A photo? Oh, just stick up whatever you fancy.'
I like Gove personally but he's not popular electorally is he? It would be IDS all over again, electorally at least. A lot of the Tory party don't seem to learn from their (recent) history.
Ironically Gove would be a continuity Cameron candidate.
Depressing article, thought that Zac would be above that sort of thing.
On the Tory leadership, wonder why Fallon never gets a mention.
I've mentioned/tipped him in a thread header.
People generally laughed and mocked me.
I did neither but can't see him as a serious contender.
The John Major of our era. Has no enemies, doesn't inspire loathing, quietly competent on a front Corbyn is weak, and is quiet prepared to kick his opponents in the goolies
The same John Major wot got 30% and 165 MPs in 1997?
I wonder how long the BEEB is going to play the day after an inconsequential vote in June when we simply find out yes has won by about ten points. They are going to have an extended programme, hours of angles and consequences- all of which mean nothing because the status quo remains.
You are really missing out on life without football. It always provides something to look forward to, and that pleasure when something like this happens......
'On Thursday, are we really going to hand the world's greatest city to a Conservative candidate who can't even proof check the photos featured in an article he's put his name to?'
Since when did writers proof-check articles? They have subs for that - and Photo Editors for photos.....
Ah, right. Team Zac: 'Yeah, we've put some of the usual Sadiq Bin Laden stuff together, just put Zac's name on the byline. A photo? Oh, just stick up whatever you fancy.'
In the Brave New Scotland I expect politicians will want to control headlines, photos, the BBC.....in the rest of the UK, however......
Depressing article, thought that Zac would be above that sort of thing.
On the Tory leadership, wonder why Fallon never gets a mention.
I've mentioned/tipped him in a thread header.
People generally laughed and mocked me.
I did neither but can't see him as a serious contender.
The John Major of our era. Has no enemies, doesn't inspire loathing, quietly competent on a front Corbyn is weak, and is quiet prepared to kick his opponents in the goolies
The same John Major wot got 30% and 165 MPs in 1997?
The 1992 general election Major. No party before or after has received as many votes as the John Major led Tory party did.
Depressing article, thought that Zac would be above that sort of thing.
On the Tory leadership, wonder why Fallon never gets a mention.
I've mentioned/tipped him in a thread header.
People generally laughed and mocked me.
I did neither but can't see him as a serious contender.
The John Major of our era. Has no enemies, doesn't inspire loathing, quietly competent on a front Corbyn is weak, and is quiet prepared to kick his opponents in the goolies
The same John Major wot got 30% and 165 MPs in 1997?
Yes that's not the John Major many people would remember from 1993-97, who became a figure of ridicule and then contempt as he shambled from one c*ck-up to another.
I like Gove personally but he's not popular electorally is he? It would be IDS all over again, electorally at least. A lot of the Tory party don't seem to learn from their (recent) history.
Ironically Gove would be a continuity Cameron candidate.
Depressing article, thought that Zac would be above that sort of thing.
On the Tory leadership, wonder why Fallon never gets a mention.
I've mentioned/tipped him in a thread header.
People generally laughed and mocked me.
I did neither but can't see him as a serious contender.
The John Major of our era. Has no enemies, doesn't inspire loathing, quietly competent on a front Corbyn is weak, and is quiet prepared to kick his opponents in the goolies
The same John Major wot got 30% and 165 MPs in 1997?
The 1992 general election Major. No party before or after has received as many votes as the John Major led Tory party did.
Well at least his majority was bigger than Dave's = 21 at that election - but not for long!
Surely if you are a Muslim your reaction to vile terrorism should be the same as anyone else and have nothing to do with a Labour party led by terrorist apologists. Or am I missing something here?
Under the rules, campaign groups that co-ordinate their campaign activities must put their spending towards a single £700,000 spending cap.
An analysis by the Telegraph has established clear connections between at least ten ‘GO’ campaign groups and two other campaign groups “Leave.EU” and “Grassroots Out” who joined UKIP and a number of other pro-Brexit groups to form the Go Movement.
All ten of the ‘Go’ groups – which include names such as ‘Steel GO’, ‘Student GO’, ‘LGBT GO’, Northern Ireland GO, Gibraltar GO – are registered to the same company address in Lysander House, Bristol.
It would appear BREXIT supporters may be trying to circumvent the Electoral Commission....although I'm sure there's a perfectly simple explanation....
The implicit assumed offence - he's getting at me and my kind - is at the heart of the problem. There is no general attack on muslims, only on extremists and their fellow travellers and apologists. And given the events of this last week, rightly so.
Whether you want to admit it or not, the suggestion throughout the campaign has been that you can't trust Khan simply because he's Muslim. Especially since it's been established Goldsmith has just as many supposed "links" to the extremists as Khan does (including Goldsmith being photographed at a camapign event with one of the people who Khan has been implicated with) -- the sole difference is that Khan has a brown face.
Hahahaha. You can't trust Khan because he nominated a terrorist apologist for leader. the only people focused on race here are those on the left.
'On Thursday, are we really going to hand the world's greatest city to a Conservative candidate who can't even proof check the photos featured in an article he's put his name to?'
Since when did writers proof-check articles? They have subs for that - and Photo Editors for photos.....
Ah, right. Team Zac: 'Yeah, we've put some of the usual Sadiq Bin Laden stuff together, just put Zac's name on the byline. A photo? Oh, just stick up whatever you fancy.'
In the Brave New Scotland I expect politicians will want to control headlines, photos, the BBC.....in the rest of the UK, however......
Yeah, that's a real feature of Scotland, the press and the BBC being supplicants and tools of the SNP.
Surely if you are a Muslim your reaction to vile terrorism should be the same as anyone else and have nothing to do with a Labour party led by terrorist apologists. Or am I missing something here?
The point is that vile jihadists want to be able to tell young Muslims that the West all hate them, that they will be villified simply because they're Muslim, and that therefore all good Muslims should seek "revenge" on the West as a whole
Mainstream politicians suggesting that Sadiq Khan, as big an opponent of jihadism and doctrinal Islam as you can get, is nevetheless a danger simply because he has a brown face, is only going to make the jihadists' narrative to Muslims seem more true.
Meanwhile, the EU's planned revamp of the Dublin rules is looking fishy -
High fines for countries not wanting to accept their 'quota' of refugees and...
'EU officials refuse to say whether it would be legally possible for countries outside the Schengen passport-free travel area, such as Britain and Ireland, to remain part of the Dublin system but enjoy an exemption from migrant quotas if a surge mechanism is used. The proposal simply states that Britain and Ireland are not obliged to stay within the Dublin system.'
'On Thursday, are we really going to hand the world's greatest city to a Conservative candidate who can't even proof check the photos featured in an article he's put his name to?'
Since when did writers proof-check articles? They have subs for that - and Photo Editors for photos.....
Ah, right. Team Zac: 'Yeah, we've put some of the usual Sadiq Bin Laden stuff together, just put Zac's name on the byline. A photo? Oh, just stick up whatever you fancy.'
In the Brave New Scotland I expect politicians will want to control headlines, photos, the BBC.....in the rest of the UK, however......
Yeah, that's a real feature of Scotland, the press and the BBC being supplicants and tools of the SNP.
They've tried it but the Beeb like the voters told them to naff off
I do think there is a more than a sniff of misogyny to politics.
The Margaret Hodge story today is interesting. The only way women appear to have any hope of entering a leadership contest is as a stalking horse it seems to me. A certain Thatcher did the same some forty years or so ago.
'On Thursday, are we really going to hand the world's greatest city to a Conservative candidate who can't even proof check the photos featured in an article he's put his name to?'
Since when did writers proof-check articles? They have subs for that - and Photo Editors for photos.....
Ah, right. Team Zac: 'Yeah, we've put some of the usual Sadiq Bin Laden stuff together, just put Zac's name on the byline. A photo? Oh, just stick up whatever you fancy.'
In the Brave New Scotland I expect politicians will want to control headlines, photos, the BBC.....in the rest of the UK, however......
Yeah, that's a real feature of Scotland, the press and the BBC being supplicants and tools of the SNP.
"In short, Sadiq Khan’s extravagant recent claim that “I have spent my whole life fighting extremism” is entirely false. On the contrary, he has supported extremists, he has aligned with extremists, he has shared their platforms, he has circulated petitions advancing their arguments and interests, he has euphemised their blood-curdling incitement as mere “flowery words”, and he has repeatedly used his position as a human rights advocate and an MP to lend extremists’ arguments a spurious legitimacy. And while he has energetically defended the rights of Al Qaeda sympathisers and operatives like Babar Ahmad and Shaker Aamer, Khan has had precious little to say about a campaign of incitement – exposed in the Wimbledon Guardian as far back as 2010 – by the sectarian organisation Khatme Nabuwwat to boycott and ostracise peaceful Ahmadi Muslims, conducted for years on his own south London doorstep, and supported by the imam of the mosque he attends."
Yes, well, some of us have been saying this for some time.
Khan's claim that he will take the fight to the extremists is a slogan only. He lacks judgment and his likely inaction on this will only result in the extremists within the Muslim community and within London gaining ground.
London deserves better. Alas, she - and those of us who live here - will not get it.
The odds on Theresa May as Next PM remain astonishingly long. You can even still get 10/1 from Boyle Sports. She should be favourite IMO.
I agree that May has become favourite in recent weeks, though that's really only because her previous main two rivals (Osborne, Boris) have been damaged which has meant May standing still has been enough to put her out front.
I do think there is a more than a sniff of misogyny to politics.
The Margaret Hodge story today is interesting. The only way women appear to have any hope of entering a leadership contest is as a stalking horse it seems to me. A certain Thatcher did the same some forty years or so ago.
On the Tory member's home polling whore's drawers springs to mind. They are up and down a lot aren't they?
Well of course. There couldn't be a clearer example of "send a message" polling. And it's not even polling, it's a survey.
Gove v May would still be my baseline expectation at the moment, though. I think choosing a PM is not something where the party will be comfortable elevating a relative unknown straight to the top. Watch out very carefully for the post-EU Ref reshuffle though.
'On Thursday, are we really going to hand the world's greatest city to a Conservative candidate who can't even proof check the photos featured in an article he's put his name to?'
Since when did writers proof-check articles? They have subs for that - and Photo Editors for photos.....
Ah, right. Team Zac: 'Yeah, we've put some of the usual Sadiq Bin Laden stuff together, just put Zac's name on the byline. A photo? Oh, just stick up whatever you fancy.'
In the Brave New Scotland I expect politicians will want to control headlines, photos, the BBC.....in the rest of the UK, however......
Yeah, that's a real feature of Scotland, the press and the BBC being supplicants and tools of the SNP.
They've tried it but the Beeb like the voters told them to naff off
The odds on Theresa May as Next PM remain astonishingly long. You can even still get 10/1 from Boyle Sports. She should be favourite IMO.
I agree that May has become favourite in recent weeks, though that's really only because her previous main two rivals (Osborne, Boris) have been damaged which has meant May standing still has been enough to put her out front.
It's partly that, although I think the odds on Boris have always been too short. They are absurdly short at the moment.
Osborne is a difficult one to price up. I think the market initially under-estimated his chances, then went too far the other way. The current 6/1 or so (as Next PM) looks in the right ballpark, I think.
Under the rules, campaign groups that co-ordinate their campaign activities must put their spending towards a single £700,000 spending cap.
An analysis by the Telegraph has established clear connections between at least ten ‘GO’ campaign groups and two other campaign groups “Leave.EU” and “Grassroots Out” who joined UKIP and a number of other pro-Brexit groups to form the Go Movement.
All ten of the ‘Go’ groups – which include names such as ‘Steel GO’, ‘Student GO’, ‘LGBT GO’, Northern Ireland GO, Gibraltar GO – are registered to the same company address in Lysander House, Bristol.
It would appear BREXIT supporters may be trying to circumvent the Electoral Commission....although I'm sure there's a perfectly simple explanation....
Things can't be going too well for Remain if they're outraged by how much money Arron Banks is spending
'On Thursday, are we really going to hand the world's greatest city to a Conservative candidate who can't even proof check the photos featured in an article he's put his name to?'
Since when did writers proof-check articles? They have subs for that - and Photo Editors for photos.....
Ah, right. Team Zac: 'Yeah, we've put some of the usual Sadiq Bin Laden stuff together, just put Zac's name on the byline. A photo? Oh, just stick up whatever you fancy.'
In the Brave New Scotland I expect politicians will want to control headlines, photos, the BBC.....in the rest of the UK, however......
Yeah, that's a real feature of Scotland, the press and the BBC being supplicants and tools of the SNP.
Yeah, that's a real feature of Scotland, the press and the BBC being supplicants and tools of the SNP.
The SNP are the establishment...
Scotland’s freedom of information watchdog bowed to behind-the-scenes pressure from the Scottish Government to conceal information about legal advice on college tuition fees
The implicit assumed offence - he's getting at me and my kind - is at the heart of the problem. There is no general attack on muslims, only on extremists and their fellow travellers and apologists. And given the events of this last week, rightly so.
Whether you want to admit it or not, the suggestion throughout the campaign has been that you can't trust Khan simply because he's Muslim. Especially since it's been established Goldsmith has just as many supposed "links" to the extremists as Khan does (including Goldsmith being photographed at a camapign event with one of the people who Khan has been implicated with) -- the sole difference is that Khan has a brown face.
Goldsmith has not sought to downplay the words of Al Qaradawi - the man in favour of suicide bombing, stoning, the murder of gays etc. He has not been less truthful about his relationship with Babar Ahmed when asked questions about it at different times. He has not denied knowing a Tooting iman who wants to boycott Ahmadi Muslims, until the photo came out. He has not spoken at events with Cage, apologists for terrorists. He has not sought an Islamic blasphemy law. He has not hired people who pose with guns and spread Islamist propaganda. He has not hired people who worked on a campaign condemned by the courts as breaching electoral law.
The reason I don't trust Khan when he says that he is the man to take the fight to the extremists is not because of his brown face or his religion.
It is because of what he has done and failed to do, because of what he has said and failed to say.
These actions and failures to act are the best evidence of whether he has the intention and courage to do what needs to be done, what he says he will do. And what they show - to my mind - is a man who has never shown any willingness at all to challenge extremism, a man who has been more than willing to go along with the default assumptions of the community he comes from if that will get him votes, a man who lacks judgment about whom he should have around him, a man who lacks courage.
He is not the man to help mould a British Islam through his role as Mayor. He is not the man who will challenge the Muslim community to adapt to Western values rather than segregate themselves further in their own. Rather I fear he will be the Mayor who will allow Salafist extreme Islam to gain more of a foothold. And that is not good news for any of us, whatever we are.
I agree that May has become favourite in recent weeks, though that's really only because her previous main two rivals (Osborne, Boris) have been damaged which has meant May standing still has been enough to put her out front.
I think she has played her hand very well. Been loyal to Cameron but at the same time been sufficiently Euro sceptic to encourage Leavers. Pretty much the only serious candidate not to have burnt their bridges on one side or the other. 10/1 seems a big price for the obvious choice.
Obviously Richard I implied with the momentum to win a contest. Thatcher would never have won if she had been promoted as a possible succession candidate previously and entered a well ordered race against the likes of Whitelaw. She won because she was a stalking horse that ran away with it.
The same potentially for Hodge- if she challenges Corbyn and potentially topples him, she'll deserve the leadership.
The likes of Yvette Cooper and Liz Kendell stood no chance in a straightforward contest with men. The same is true for May- that is why her odds are long. But if May had downed tools and challenged Cameron on Europe she would be in a much stronger position for the leadership. Women have to do things differently and probably more courageously to get noticed.
I do think there is a more than a sniff of misogyny to politics.
The Margaret Hodge story today is interesting. The only way women appear to have any hope of entering a leadership contest is as a stalking horse it seems to me. A certain Thatcher did the same some forty years or so ago.
There are still some ways to take advantage of Trump (And Clinton)'s superiority:
Trump-Clinton double @ 2-7 with Hills and Trump to "clinch" the nomination before Cleveland (Which I assume means > 1237 bound delegates) @ 1-2 (Tipped up by Peter_from_Putney earlier) also with Hills.
Yeah, that's a real feature of Scotland, the press and the BBC being supplicants and tools of the SNP.
The SNP are the establishment...
Scotland’s freedom of information watchdog bowed to behind-the-scenes pressure from the Scottish Government to conceal information about legal advice on college tuition fees
There are still some ways to take advantage of Trump (And Clinton)'s superiority:
Trump-Clinton double @ 2-7 with Hills and Trump to "clinch" the nomination before Cleveland (Which I assume means > 1237 bound delegates) @ 1-2 (Tipped up by Peter_from_Putney earlier) also with Hills.
I tipped 1.57 with Hills yesterday Pulps :P as Peter rightly credited
'On Thursday, are we really going to hand the world's greatest city to a Conservative candidate who can't even proof check the photos featured in an article he's put his name to?'
Since when did writers proof-check articles? They have subs for that - and Photo Editors for photos.....
Ah, right. Team Zac: 'Yeah, we've put some of the usual Sadiq Bin Laden stuff together, just put Zac's name on the byline. A photo? Oh, just stick up whatever you fancy.'
In the Brave New Scotland I expect politicians will want to control headlines, photos, the BBC.....in the rest of the UK, however......
Yeah, that's a real feature of Scotland, the press and the BBC being supplicants and tools of the SNP.
I do think there is a more than a sniff of misogyny to politics.
The Margaret Hodge story today is interesting. The only way women appear to have any hope of entering a leadership contest is as a stalking horse it seems to me. A certain Thatcher did the same some forty years or so ago.
'On Thursday, are we really going to hand the world's greatest city to a Conservative candidate who can't even proof check the photos featured in an article he's put his name to?'
Since when did writers proof-check articles? They have subs for that - and Photo Editors for photos.....
Ah, right. Team Zac: 'Yeah, we've put some of the usual Sadiq Bin Laden stuff together, just put Zac's name on the byline. A photo? Oh, just stick up whatever you fancy.'
In the Brave New Scotland I expect politicians will want to control headlines, photos, the BBC.....in the rest of the UK, however......
Yeah, that's a real feature of Scotland, the press and the BBC being supplicants and tools of the SNP.
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https://twitter.com/dats/status/726711536111202305
If Gove's seen as being Osborne's friend, that may weigh against him.
@sundersays
Zac:"I'd run completely different campaign if they'd chosen David Lammy.Would have been about issues.I'm up against a real danger to London"
Stephen Bush @stephenkb May 2
Stephen Bush Retweeted Sunder Katwala
It's true. Against Lammy it would have been about stop and search, the London riots, merit not diversity.
On the Tory leadership, wonder why Fallon never gets a mention.
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/order-order.com
I blame the Jews.....
People generally laughed and mocked me.
Osborne wouldn't hesitate to do it to him.
The implicit assumed offence - he's getting at me and my kind - is at the heart of the problem. There is no general attack on muslims, only on extremists and their fellow travellers and apologists. And given the events of this last week, rightly so.
I'm not sure if that will play in his favour.
btw this Siraj Datoo is clearly a moron, Muslims here aren't told to do anything or join anything.
I have clocked Leicester won - well done - but I don't care.
I was going to start mine with "dreary me"- instead I went for the more straightforward "surely not?" The Khan attack stuff is pure satire with the intellectual rigour of a dead slug.
On the Tory member's home polling whore's drawers springs to mind. They are up and down a lot aren't they?
Islamists are fellow travellers for Sadiq, he hires them and has them as friends. Pointing this out is not racist, just like pointing out that Labour have an antisemitism issue because they pander to Muslims in order to get Muslim votes. The Mirror, of all papers, ran an article on it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/03/remain-groups-demand-electoral-commission-probe-into-how-unoffic
Makes one proud to be a Tory.
https://www.totalpolitics.com/articles/news/michael-gove-gives-masterclass-how-handle-phillip-davies
Team Zac: 'Yeah, we've put some of the usual Sadiq Bin Laden stuff together, just put Zac's name on the byline. A photo? Oh, just stick up whatever you fancy.'
You are really missing out on life without football. It always provides something to look forward to, and that pleasure when something like this happens......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYMDkx1qHkk
Unless you live in Scotland, where it featured Nicola Sturgeon instead...
Boris peaked at Mayor of London.
An analysis by the Telegraph has established clear connections between at least ten ‘GO’ campaign groups and two other campaign groups “Leave.EU” and “Grassroots Out” who joined UKIP and a number of other pro-Brexit groups to form the Go Movement.
All ten of the ‘Go’ groups – which include names such as ‘Steel GO’, ‘Student GO’, ‘LGBT GO’, Northern Ireland GO, Gibraltar GO – are registered to the same company address in Lysander House, Bristol.
It would appear BREXIT supporters may be trying to circumvent the Electoral Commission....although I'm sure there's a perfectly simple explanation....
Mainstream politicians suggesting that Sadiq Khan, as big an opponent of jihadism and doctrinal Islam as you can get, is nevetheless a danger simply because he has a brown face, is only going to make the jihadists' narrative to Muslims seem more true.
The tweeter mentions muslims. That speaks volumes about him.
I plan to give my first preference to Bernie Sanders and second preference to Yanis Varoufakis.
Meanwhile, the EU's planned revamp of the Dublin rules is looking fishy -
High fines for countries not wanting to accept their 'quota' of refugees and...
'EU officials refuse to say whether it would be legally possible for countries outside the Schengen passport-free travel area, such as Britain and Ireland, to remain part of the Dublin system but enjoy an exemption from migrant quotas if a surge mechanism is used. The proposal simply states that Britain and Ireland are not obliged to stay within the Dublin system.'
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/346ba28a-10b8-11e6-bb40-c30e3bfcf63b.html#axzz47LutyvEn
I mean aren't you giving Priti Patel your first preference ?
I'd have voted 1. Trump 2. Jeremy Hunt.
The Margaret Hodge story today is interesting. The only way women appear to have any hope of entering a leadership contest is as a stalking horse it seems to me. A certain Thatcher did the same some forty years or so ago.
But it doesn't take a genius to be able to read the undertones either in the Labour anti-semites' case or in Goldsmith's case.
http://hurryupharry.org/2016/05/03/labours-impoverished-expectations-or-why-i-cannot-join-the-centre-left-in-voting-for-sadiq-khan/
Powerful piece
"In short, Sadiq Khan’s extravagant recent claim that “I have spent my whole life fighting extremism” is entirely false. On the contrary, he has supported extremists, he has aligned with extremists, he has shared their platforms, he has circulated petitions advancing their arguments and interests, he has euphemised their blood-curdling incitement as mere “flowery words”, and he has repeatedly used his position as a human rights advocate and an MP to lend extremists’ arguments a spurious legitimacy. And while he has energetically defended the rights of Al Qaeda sympathisers and operatives like Babar Ahmad and Shaker Aamer, Khan has had precious little to say about a campaign of incitement – exposed in the Wimbledon Guardian as far back as 2010 – by the sectarian organisation Khatme Nabuwwat to boycott and ostracise peaceful Ahmadi Muslims, conducted for years on his own south London doorstep, and supported by the imam of the mosque he attends."
Yes, well, some of us have been saying this for some time.
Khan's claim that he will take the fight to the extremists is a slogan only. He lacks judgment and his likely inaction on this will only result in the extremists within the Muslim community and within London gaining ground.
London deserves better. Alas, she - and those of us who live here - will not get it.
Gove v May would still be my baseline expectation at the moment, though. I think choosing a PM is not something where the party will be comfortable elevating a relative unknown straight to the top. Watch out very carefully for the post-EU Ref reshuffle though.
Osborne is a difficult one to price up. I think the market initially under-estimated his chances, then went too far the other way. The current 6/1 or so (as Next PM) looks in the right ballpark, I think.
Trump on 56% nationally.
http://tinyurl.com/jh9bcl4
The reason I don't trust Khan when he says that he is the man to take the fight to the extremists is not because of his brown face or his religion.
It is because of what he has done and failed to do, because of what he has said and failed to say.
These actions and failures to act are the best evidence of whether he has the intention and courage to do what needs to be done, what he says he will do. And what they show - to my mind - is a man who has never shown any willingness at all to challenge extremism, a man who has been more than willing to go along with the default assumptions of the community he comes from if that will get him votes, a man who lacks judgment about whom he should have around him, a man who lacks courage.
He is not the man to help mould a British Islam through his role as Mayor. He is not the man who will challenge the Muslim community to adapt to Western values rather than segregate themselves further in their own. Rather I fear he will be the Mayor who will allow Salafist extreme Islam to gain more of a foothold. And that is not good news for any of us, whatever we are.
I agree that May has become favourite in recent weeks, though that's really only because her previous main two rivals (Osborne, Boris) have been damaged which has meant May standing still has been enough to put her out front.
I think she has played her hand very well. Been loyal to Cameron but at the same time been sufficiently Euro sceptic to encourage Leavers. Pretty much the only serious candidate not to have burnt their bridges on one side or the other. 10/1 seems a big price for the obvious choice.
The same potentially for Hodge- if she challenges Corbyn and potentially topples him, she'll deserve the leadership.
The likes of Yvette Cooper and Liz Kendell stood no chance in a straightforward contest with men. The same is true for May- that is why her odds are long. But if May had downed tools and challenged Cameron on Europe she would be in a much stronger position for the leadership. Women have to do things differently and probably more courageously to get noticed.
Trump-Clinton double @ 2-7 with Hills and Trump to "clinch" the nomination before Cleveland (Which I assume means > 1237 bound delegates) @ 1-2 (Tipped up by Peter_from_Putney earlier) also with Hills.
Thanks for proving my point about the press.
Sadiq Khan: 35%
Zac Goldsmith: 26%
After 2nd prefs:
Khan: 57% (+3 since April)
Goldsmith: 43% (-3)
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/sadiq-khan-boost-as-tory-rival-zac-goldsmith-slips-in-latest-opinion-poll-a3238901.html
SNP: 3
Lab: 1
Con: 1
Cons: 9
Lab: 6
UKIP: 2
LDs: 1
SNP: 0