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The afternoon has been dominated by what’s now become #Traingate – how the film of Corbyn having to sit on the floor of a Newcastle-bound Virgin train two weeks ago might not have been all it seemed.
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Happy days.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-18/russia-s-fertilizer-tycoon-says-potash-glut-may-last-a-decade
The piece contains a really good closing paragraph.
http://order-order.com/2016/08/23/virgin-trains-discount-for-labour-party-conference/
Harriet Harman on #traingate "It is slightly baffling.... I'm really baffled, I don't know what's going on."
Exactly, he was spinning. Perfectly normal behaviour, but he's not supposed to be a 'normal' politician. And those defending the spin on the basis it 'highilghted' a genuine problem would never, ever extend that courtesy to their opponents doing the same.
It's silly, it's trivial, it won't affect anything long term (though one Tory I know thinks it might). But it didn't need to happen at all.
Though given Harriet's ability to miss clear evidence in the past, her bafflement should come as no surprise.
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So Corbyn finally admit story that he sat on the floor of a train for three hours on way to hustings was not true:
5:10 PM - 23 Aug 2016
Let's hope that the thread doesn't get sidetracked.
earning being paid
There, I've saved any Corbynistas and others the trouble of saying the above and if they want to point out the not in question fact that this is a small matter that won't derail Corbyn all by itself.
As ever, it's about cumulative effect of these sorts of impressions.
However that large and multinationals are the most enthusiastic cheerleaders for regulations that put a large cost between coming up with a product and being allowed to put it on the market is not exactly a revelation.
They have the economy of scale and in house experts to cope with it whereas medium size and smaller companies are stuffed.
The reason this will be so damaging because he has built a reputation for being a man with principles but the general electorate will look at this and think " he's like any other politician ".
"CCTV appears to contradict his story"
Could this cost him the leadership?
Seems laughable but if his integrity is badly damaged then it could snowball - who knows?
@rcs1000 I was talking about such practices in general worldwide not necessarily in the organisation that I suspect you assumed *I was referring to (plenty of supranational organisations have similar functions such as the CIS in the former USSR, the African Union or even the federal government in the USA)
However that large and multinationals are the most enthusiastic cheerleaders and lobbyers for regulations that put a large cost between coming up with a product and being allowed to put it on the market (or that maintain a legislative monopoly by extending copyright lockout periods from 25 years after the authors death to 75 years etc.) is not exactly a revelation (especially where those regulations operate on the precautionary principle and require you to prove a negative.
They have the economy of scale and in house experts to cope with it whereas medium size and smaller companies are stuffed and often have to withdraw a cheap product that has been sold for years or decades because the sales won't justify the cost of the new regulatory test, leaving the field clear for multinationals to sell a much more expensive and sometimes inferior product.
The result is highly paid jobs all round for bureaucrats and inefficient multinational monopolies (who are very good at avoiding coporation tax in a country) and a worsening of the economy as entrepreneurs and efficient small businesses that would be paying coporation tax to the national government are throttled.
Because there is no way they won't criticise opponents for doing the same thing, even if those opponents do not so openly claim the righteousness of not doing that sort of thing, as he does.
(apologies to Tim Rice)
https://twitter.com/richardbranson/status/768070742135152640
Not Corbyn specifically, 4 'other' faces clearly identifiable from the CCTV
http://tinyurl.com/hahzt3d
My Facebook feed is being filled by my local Momentum fan girl claiming this is all a media smear.
Don't you just love the predictability of them?
Why else hold onto it for 12 days? I am sure the tapes were reviewed immediately after the first story.
Post truth politics now apply. It does not matter what the truth is anymore, and any attempt to dispute it just gives the story legs. Branson is a master of PR, Jezza gets the wooden spoon.
For socialism you can substitute with ideology of your choosing if you like.
Very manipulative as well as dishonest.
A senior Ukip figure has accused the party's only MP of helping the Conservatives defeat Nigel Farage during the General Election.
A company belonging Arron Banks, Ukip's biggest donor, has written to Kent Police alleging that Douglas Carswell, the party's MP for Clacton, helped the Tory campaign.
Precision Risk & Intelligence claims that Mr Carswell downloaded Ukip polling data for the South Thanet seat in Kent and passed it to the Conservatives, who allegedly used it during the campaign.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/23/senior-ukip-figure-accuses-partys-only-mp-of-helping-the-conserv/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
This does her no favours.
That it?
In fact how much does he own of virgin trains these days?
Virgin appears to be to Stagecoach what Sainsburys is to British Gas.
I once recognised John Smith on the concourse at York station but only because he was strutting along as one who knew himself a Very Important Person Indeed with a host of acolytes scurrying around him.
(Good evening, everyone, and what a come-down: from the Olympics, to this story. Silly season in full flow.)
Doubly inept as he could have made the point a thousand other ways.
Oh Ed...where are you now your Party needs you?? Doing a paso doble in Blackpool , that's where.
O tempora o mores.
Stick to your guns Jezza!
They don't work more than placebo but consumers like them. The big pharma with their switch Cx businesses didn't...
Jezza would approve.
I always thought there were rather strict legal restrictions on the way CCTV can be used Viz a Viz people's privacy?
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-faces-hurdle-minority-voters-clinton-maintains-lead-poll-shows-n636061
Virginia Raonoke Clinton 48 Trump 32 Johnson 8 Stein 3
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Missouri Monmouth Trump 44 Clinton 43 Johnson 8
http://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_MO_082316/
Utah PPP Trump 39 Clinton 24 Johnson 12 Stein 1
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