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  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    edited September 2016
    MTimT said:

    Hillary calling NATO the oldest military alliance in the world. What about England/Portugal?

    Where are those bloody fact checkers!

    Must have been quite a moment in the Commons when Churchill announced:

    "I have an anouncement to make to the House arising out of the Treaty signed between this country and Portugal in the year 1373 between His Majesty King Edward III and King Ferdinand and Queen Eleanor of Portugal."
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited September 2016
    Oh god Trump is back on the Obama / Clinton created ISIS.
  • Trumps ramblings becoming increasingly incoherent.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited September 2016
    This moderator is awful. Firstly, he forgot to give Trump his time to rebut Clinton, then he calls Trump out of support for Iraq War (which is fine), but doesn't seem to have the citation on hand.
  • Ha, Trump being called on his Iraq war support
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Trump vs Moderator again.
  • Ha, Trump being called on his Iraq war support

    Supported by a Labour government,

    Labour - the NASTY Party.
  • MTimT said:

    Hillary calling NATO the oldest military alliance in the world. What about England/Portugal?

    Not really a functional alliance given that Portugal was neutral in WWII.
  • Speedy said:

    Trump vs Moderator again.

    Well he does seem to spend most of his time calling out Trump and never Clinton.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712
    Trump hit Hillary on Middle East but farcical section on his support for the Iraq War and interviews with Hannity and Howard Stern and Hillary cracking up
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941

    MTimT said:

    Hillary calling NATO the oldest military alliance in the world. What about England/Portugal?

    Not really a functional alliance given that Portugal was neutral in WWII.
    At the consent of the British Government.
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    MTimT said:

    Hillary calling NATO the oldest military alliance in the world. What about England/Portugal?

    Not really a functional alliance given that Portugal was neutral in WWII.
    They helped out in WWI ...
  • Trump has gone bonkers.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712
    edited September 2016
    Hillary, 'woop OK' then looks crazy
  • Speedy said:

    Trump vs Moderator again.

    Well he does seem to spend most of his time calling out Trump and never Clinton.
    Well obviously, that's because Trump lies far more than Clinton.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited September 2016
    What happened to the audience not being able to respond?
  • lol. Trump: "I have better judgement than her because I say so"
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Has the mod asked HRC a challenge to any answer? Or interrupted Clinton or clarified a point made from HRC

    Don't give a care what it is but anything?.....At all?

    He constantly puts trump on the question defensive but not Clinton


    The last 5 minutes have been mod against Trump it just has
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 49,959
    As Clinton does her bobble-head routine, it's time for me to check out. Night guys....
  • MTimT said:

    MTimT said:

    Hillary calling NATO the oldest military alliance in the world. What about England/Portugal?

    Not really a functional alliance given that Portugal was neutral in WWII.
    They helped out in WWI ...
    Only from 1916 to 1918.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941

    What happened to the audience not being able to respond?

    Yeah, the only time the moderator intervened was when it was a pro-Trump cheer.
  • HYUFD said:

    Hillary, 'woop OK' then looks crazy

    Her joker like smile doesn't do her any favours. Any she should just stick to the high road Clinton-Bot-2000.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    MTimT said:

    Hillary calling NATO the oldest military alliance in the world. What about England/Portugal?

    Not really a functional alliance given that Portugal was neutral in WWII.

    And this, from wikipedia:

    'Upon the declaration of war in September 1939, the Portuguese Government announced on 1 September that the Anglo-Portuguese Alliance remained intact, but since the British did not seek Portuguese assistance, Portugal would remain neutral. In an aide-mémoire of 5 September 1939, the British Government confirmed the understanding. British strategists regarded Portuguese non-belligerency as "essential to keep Spain from entering the war on the side of the Axis."'
  • not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,340
    edited September 2016

    What happened to the audience not being able to respond?

    It was impossible not to laugh at Trump's claim of better temperament.
  • Moses_ said:

    Has the mod asked HRC a challenge to any answer? Or interrupted Clinton or clarified a point made from HRC

    Don't give a care what it is but anything?.....At all?

    He constantly puts trump on the question defensive but not Clinton


    The last 5 minutes have been mod against Trump it just has

    It definitely been 2 vs 1, not 1 vs 1.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712
    Speedy said:

    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.

    I can't see either getting much boost out of this, the race is going to the wire
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024

    HYUFD said:

    Hillary, 'woop OK' then looks crazy

    Her joker like smile doesn't do her any favours. Any she should just stick to the high road Clinton-Bot-2000.
    thought it was a good joke actually
  • Moses_ said:

    Has the mod asked HRC a challenge to any answer? Or interrupted Clinton or clarified a point made from HRC

    Don't give a care what it is but anything?.....At all?

    He constantly puts trump on the question defensive but not Clinton


    The last 5 minutes have been mod against Trump it just has

    Again, Trump tells far more lies, so naturally gets called out more.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712

    HYUFD said:

    Hillary, 'woop OK' then looks crazy

    Her joker like smile doesn't do her any favours. Any she should just stick to the high road Clinton-Bot-2000.
    Yes, she is best when setting out facts
  • HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.

    I can't see either getting much boost out of this, the race is going to the wire
    Trump has been awful, Clinton has gone between Clinton-Bot-2000 and then went all "everybody is racist", which won't play well outside her base.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024

    It does show how f##ked up America where the POTUS candidate has to say well I think we need to ban those on terrorist watch list from buying a gun as a policy!

    Especially somebody who has been in power for 8 years...
    congress blocks it
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.

    I can't see either getting much boost out of this, the race is going to the wire
    They are just reinforcing their worst tracks.

    But since Trump has worse tracks, Trump is the bigger loser.
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Lester has been crap in last 20 minutes.

    I'm on Twitter instead as it's pointless viewing
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited September 2016
    SeanT said:

    I'd say Trump has lost this. And yet i dunno

    It is hard to put yourself in the shoes of non-coastal American, rather than a European, especially part of the London Elite (just joshing on last part).

    It is really hard to know how Trump's rambling plays in small towns in Mid West that are losing jobs being outsourced etc.
  • Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.

    I can't see either getting much boost out of this, the race is going to the wire
    They are just reinforcing their worst tracks.

    But since Trump has worse tracks, Trump is the bigger loser.
    Remember that was your reaction to every one of the primary debates too.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,614
    edited September 2016
    Speedy said:

    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.

    This is truly the Alien vs Predator election. No matter who wins, we all lose.
  • Trump: "The deal with Iran should have included with North Korea" wtf
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    Moses_ said:

    Has the mod asked HRC a challenge to any answer? Or interrupted Clinton or clarified a point made from HRC

    Don't give a care what it is but anything?.....At all?

    He constantly puts trump on the question defensive but not Clinton


    The last 5 minutes have been mod against Trump it just has

    It definitely been 2 vs 1, not 1 vs 1.
    Trump starts to make a good point and......Mod says "we need to move on" ....perhaps they do perhaps they do. SAD HRC got to make her point in full.

    I think they are both mad by the way.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    SeanT said:

    If I were a mildly pissed off American I'd vote Trump on this basis. SO FAR

    because ur white. Sorry but everyone sees this debate from different sides
  • When do we get to the policy section?
  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,956
    SeanT said:

    I'd say Trump has lost this. And yet i dunno

    Both of them look pretty bad, and reinforce negatives we knew about them already. Trump rambling and incoherent, Clinton smug and patronising. Would an American who was undecided before this be likely to pick one as a result?
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.

    I can't see either getting much boost out of this, the race is going to the wire
    They are just reinforcing their worst tracks.

    But since Trump has worse tracks, Trump is the bigger loser.
    Remember that was your reaction to every one of the primary debates too.
    Only in the last Fox debate.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,614

    When do we get to the policy section?

    After the election, maybe?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited September 2016
    Essexit said:

    SeanT said:

    I'd say Trump has lost this. And yet i dunno

    Both of them look pretty bad, and reinforce negatives we knew about them already. Trump rambling and incoherent, Clinton smug and patronising. Would an American who was undecided before this be likely to pick one as a result?
    Probably too busy looking up how to apply for Canadian citizenship on the back of this!!!
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    PlatoSaid said:

    Lester has been crap in last 20 minutes.

    I'm on Twitter instead as it's pointless viewing

    been crap? why for calling out Trump bs?
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    SeanT said:

    I'd say Trump has lost this. And yet i dunno

    It is hard to put yourself in the shoes of non-coastal American, rather than a European, especially part of the London Elite (just joshing on last part).

    It is really hard to know how Trump's rambling plays in small towns in Mid West that are losing jobs being outsourced etc.
    Trump started off very strong on bring up Ohio, Iowa, Michigan, Indiana by name. No doubt who he is playing to.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.

    I can't see either getting much boost out of this, the race is going to the wire
    Trump has been awful, Clinton has gone between Clinton-Bot-2000 and then went all "everybody is racist", which won't play well outside her base.
    Trump has been rambling, Clinton has been an automaton and as you say playing to her base
  • Essexit said:

    SeanT said:

    I'd say Trump has lost this. And yet i dunno

    Both of them look pretty bad, and reinforce negatives we knew about them already. Trump rambling and incoherent, Clinton smug and patronising. Would an American who was undecided before this be likely to pick one as a result?
    Probably too busy looking up how to apply for Canadian citizenship on the back of this!!!
    People prefer to be patronised by a younger model?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712
    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.

    I can't see either getting much boost out of this, the race is going to the wire
    They are just reinforcing their worst tracks.

    But since Trump has worse tracks, Trump is the bigger loser.
    It will make little difference to those already voting for Trump though and with the race already close nothing significant changes as a result
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    SeanT said:

    nunu said:

    SeanT said:

    If I were a mildly pissed off American I'd vote Trump on this basis. SO FAR

    because ur white. Sorry but everyone sees this debate from different sides
    True. But America is 70% white
    yeah thats why he's outpreforming in swing states.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712
    Trump 'We cannot be the policeman of the world'
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.

    I can't see either getting much boost out of this, the race is going to the wire
    Trump has been awful, Clinton has gone between Clinton-Bot-2000 and then went all "everybody is racist", which won't play well outside her base.
    Trump has been rambling, Clinton has been an automaton and as you say playing to her base
    To be fair, both have rambled there way through this. I don't think I've heard a single policy statement.
  • nunu said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Lester has been crap in last 20 minutes.

    I'm on Twitter instead as it's pointless viewing

    been crap? why for calling out Trump bs?
    Yes, in the right wing bubble that counts as bias.
  • nunu said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Lester has been crap in last 20 minutes.

    I'm on Twitter instead as it's pointless viewing

    been crap? why for calling out Trump bs?
    He's also letting Hillary talk and cutting Trump off all the time.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712
    RobD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.

    I can't see either getting much boost out of this, the race is going to the wire
    Trump has been awful, Clinton has gone between Clinton-Bot-2000 and then went all "everybody is racist", which won't play well outside her base.
    Trump has been rambling, Clinton has been an automaton and as you say playing to her base
    To be fair, both have rambled there way through this. I don't think I've heard a single policy statement.
    Well that is true
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited September 2016
    Moderator again bringing up a negative for Trump as a "question"..basically you are a sexist aren't you Donald. Not once has he done that for Clinton.
  • The moderator is just dreadful
  • nunu said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Lester has been crap in last 20 minutes.

    I'm on Twitter instead as it's pointless viewing

    been crap? why for calling out Trump bs?
    He's also letting Hillary talk and cutting Trump off all the time.
    Stopping Trumps rambling is doing him a favour
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited September 2016
    Not Clinton/Trump down to 2%

    I sold @ 9% at the height of pneumoniagate.

    I've cashed out.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712
    Trump says Hillary lacks the 'stamina' to be present. Hillary says she has experience, Trump says it is bad experience
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941

    Moderator again bringing up a negative for Trump as a "question"..basically you are a sexist aren't you Donald. Not once has he done that for Clinton.

    Pretty much, Trump received several of those questions throughout the debate, Clinton received none.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024

    Moderator again bringing up a negative for Trump as a "question"..basically you are a sexist aren't you Donald. Not once has he done that for Clinton.

    thats his own fault.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited September 2016
    nunu said:

    Moderator again bringing up a negative for Trump as a "question"..basically you are a sexist aren't you Donald. Not once has he done that for Clinton.

    thats his own fault.
    There is plenty to do the same for Clinton, that is my only point.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,614
    Trump trying to finish with a bit of positive statesmanship about negative ads.
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    What a stupid question.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    MTimT said:

    What a stupid question.

    Remainers take note ;)
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    RobD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.

    I can't see either getting much boost out of this, the race is going to the wire
    Trump has been awful, Clinton has gone between Clinton-Bot-2000 and then went all "everybody is racist", which won't play well outside her base.
    Trump has been rambling, Clinton has been an automaton and as you say playing to her base
    To be fair, both have rambled there way through this. I don't think I've heard a single policy statement.
    no one cares about policy anymore unfortantley, atleast the media don't.
  • For me this debate was a score draw.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited September 2016
    nunu said:

    RobD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.

    I can't see either getting much boost out of this, the race is going to the wire
    Trump has been awful, Clinton has gone between Clinton-Bot-2000 and then went all "everybody is racist", which won't play well outside her base.
    Trump has been rambling, Clinton has been an automaton and as you say playing to her base
    To be fair, both have rambled there way through this. I don't think I've heard a single policy statement.
    no one cares about policy anymore unfortantley, atleast the media don't.
    90 mins, no policy at all. F##king awful.

    I still don't have a single idea what Clinton's policies are at all...something to do with tax the rich and allow college grads to refinance their student loans.

    And Trump, not a clue...build a wall, some undetailed massive tax cut, nuke ISIS.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,614
    Did anyone come up with a spread bet on "Make America Great Again"?
  • MTimT said:

    What a stupid question.

    Reasonable given Trump's previous attempts to cast doubt on the result.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024

    nunu said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Lester has been crap in last 20 minutes.

    I'm on Twitter instead as it's pointless viewing

    been crap? why for calling out Trump bs?
    He's also letting Hillary talk and cutting Trump off all the time.
    yeah but he let's him come back more
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Sorry
    HRC had nearly 2 minutes to sum up

    30 seconds into a sum up the mod is interrupting Trump . Then mod then throws a provocative question about Clintons ability. Trump is on defensive

    Asks Clinton to then respond

    Moderator neutral .....Like fuck.

    I think Trump is a loony but I an not going to give HRC a pass either

    He still is interrupting Trump.

    Clear Clinton win the moderator ensured it. Asked if Clinton wins would Trump support it. He said yes


    Did not ask HRC same question. Telling

  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    nunu said:

    RobD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.

    I can't see either getting much boost out of this, the race is going to the wire
    Trump has been awful, Clinton has gone between Clinton-Bot-2000 and then went all "everybody is racist", which won't play well outside her base.
    Trump has been rambling, Clinton has been an automaton and as you say playing to her base
    To be fair, both have rambled there way through this. I don't think I've heard a single policy statement.
    no one cares about policy anymore unfortantley, atleast the media don't.
    90 mins, no policy at all. F##king awful.
    90 minutes of nothing
  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,956

    nunu said:

    RobD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.

    I can't see either getting much boost out of this, the race is going to the wire
    Trump has been awful, Clinton has gone between Clinton-Bot-2000 and then went all "everybody is racist", which won't play well outside her base.
    Trump has been rambling, Clinton has been an automaton and as you say playing to her base
    To be fair, both have rambled there way through this. I don't think I've heard a single policy statement.
    no one cares about policy anymore unfortantley, atleast the media don't.
    90 mins, no policy at all. F##king awful.
    Not really sure why I got out of bed. Now I have to go to work in the morning D:
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Well the debate is over, Hillary is the next president but just because Trump was even more terrible than Hillary.

    What was Trump doing all these weeks about preparing for the debate ?
  • nunu said:

    RobD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    Trump and Hillary are doing their best to lose this debate.

    I can't see either getting much boost out of this, the race is going to the wire
    Trump has been awful, Clinton has gone between Clinton-Bot-2000 and then went all "everybody is racist", which won't play well outside her base.
    Trump has been rambling, Clinton has been an automaton and as you say playing to her base
    To be fair, both have rambled there way through this. I don't think I've heard a single policy statement.
    no one cares about policy anymore unfortantley, atleast the media don't.
    90 mins, no policy at all. F##king awful.

    I still don't have a single idea what Clinton's policies are at all...something to do with tax the rich and allow college grads to refinance their student loans.

    And Trump, not a clue...build a wall, some undetailed massive tax cut, nuke ISIS.
    Just dire - both are rubbish
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Speedy said:

    Well the debate is over, Hillary is the next president but just because Trump was even more terrible than Hillary.

    What was Trump doing all these weeks about preparing for the debate ?

    I thought Hillary was quite funny at times. she was much better than some people predicted.
  • DromedaryDromedary Posts: 1,194
    Moses_ said:

    Clear Clinton win the moderator ensured it. Asked if Clinton wins would Trump support it. He said yes

    Did not ask HRC same question. Telling

    He asked them both whether they'd accept the result.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712
    No clear winner, probably Hillary edged it
  • What was the beauty pageant story Hillary brought up? Has that been publicised before or is her campaign holding oppo research back?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited September 2016
    Cliffnotes of Debate - Moderator wins, Clinton-Bot-2000 doesn't die, Trump rambles like a madman.
  • HYUFD said:

    No clear winner, probably Hillary edged it

    Romney won the first debate in 2012....
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    Alright.. when's the first poll so I know what to think?
  • nunu said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Lester has been crap in last 20 minutes.

    I'm on Twitter instead as it's pointless viewing

    been crap? why for calling out Trump bs?
    Isn't that Hillary's job?
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Speedy said:

    Well the debate is over, Hillary is the next president but just because Trump was even more terrible than Hillary.

    What was Trump doing all these weeks about preparing for the debate ?

    I really does not matter how this played to a British audience, but how it played with the non-voters that Trump might bring to the table. Trump is playing a different game, which us politicos find hard to understand or accept as even possibly being effective.
  • shiney2shiney2 Posts: 672
    Nothing here that dents Trump's momentum.

    Hints from Luntz that the undecideds prefer him.

    He's the next President.

    Looking forward to the first UK State Visit..
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941

    What was the beauty pageant story Hillary brought up? Has that been publicised before or is her campaign holding oppo research back?

    http://www.businessinsider.com/alicia-machado-donald-trump-2016-5
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    RobD said:

    Alright.. when's the first poll so I know what to think?

    Frank Luntz's focus group has Hillary 16, Trump 6.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712

    HYUFD said:

    No clear winner, probably Hillary edged it

    Romney won the first debate in 2012....
    So did Kerry in 2004, both won much bigger victories than Hillary maybe won tonight. They did not win but at least narrowed their losing margin, this was certainly no JFK 1960 or Reagan 1980 debate either which probably really did win a tight election
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024

    nunu said:

    Moderator again bringing up a negative for Trump as a "question"..basically you are a sexist aren't you Donald. Not once has he done that for Clinton.

    thats his own fault.
    There is plenty to do the same for Clinton, that is my only point.
    I guess he could of bought up the depolarable, but there is no comparison she hasn't said racist, sexist things during the campaign.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Dromedary said:

    Moses_ said:

    Clear Clinton win the moderator ensured it. Asked if Clinton wins would Trump support it. He said yes

    Did not ask HRC same question. Telling

    He asked them both whether they'd accept the result.

    What did HRC say?

    Guessed I missed it and was refreshing the screen
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    cnn poll coming up.
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Well that's a surprise. David Plouffe is calling the debate for Hillary.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    nunu said:

    nunu said:

    Moderator again bringing up a negative for Trump as a "question"..basically you are a sexist aren't you Donald. Not once has he done that for Clinton.

    thats his own fault.
    There is plenty to do the same for Clinton, that is my only point.
    I guess he could of bought up the depolarable, but there is no comparison she hasn't said racist, sexist things during the campaign.
    He could have asked about a scandal involving emails, perhaps?
  • nunu said:

    nunu said:

    Moderator again bringing up a negative for Trump as a "question"..basically you are a sexist aren't you Donald. Not once has he done that for Clinton.

    thats his own fault.
    There is plenty to do the same for Clinton, that is my only point.
    I guess he could of bought up the depolarable, but there is no comparison she hasn't said racist, sexist things during the campaign.
    Clinton Foundation, Deplorables, Emails....plenty to go on. The liberal leaning, Clinton supporting, Last Week Tonight managed a good 10 mins without even trying.
  • MTimT said:

    Well that's a surprise. David Plouffe is calling the debate for Hillary.

    He called it before the debate even happened.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/09/26/obamas-campaign-guru-dont-fret-about-polls-clinton-is-winning-and-she-can-finish-the-job-tonight/
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    From that load of bollocks make the moderator POTUS
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited September 2016
    nunu said:

    cnn poll coming up.

    BREAKING NEWS......left handed half black half Korean gay voters say....BREAKING NEWS....one armed white Vets who list their favourite sport as baseball say....is normally how they do their polls.
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