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#BREAKING: Early exit poll shows voters are anxious about @realDonaldTrump https://t.co/C6MgWy36Km pic.twitter.com/MCxpW5krZU

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  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited November 2016
    First like...probably Clinton...or my new shovel will be seeing a lot more action than doing the borders around the lawn!
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,697
    Test
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,084
    edited November 2016
    Third like Johnson?

    And Second like Trump, since 'test' doesn't really count
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,697
    Cracking Clothes Line by Donald!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    Sixth!
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,774
    Early numbers would seem to favour Trump, but these are all rural areas so far. Still, Trump has made progress relative to Romney everywhere.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,084
    The only trouble with the BBC is having to listen to Jeremy vine doing his elections-for-dummies spiel.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    First 3 counties from Indiana Trump overperforming Romney by a swing of 10 and 16%, and exactly the same as Romney in the third.

    Average swing 8.7 so far in Indiana.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,072
    rcs1000 said:

    Early numbers would seem to favour Trump, but these are all rural areas so far. Still, Trump has made progress relative to Romney everywhere.

    He's doing worse than Romney in Franklin so far.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,603
    IanB2 said:

    The only trouble with the BBC is having to listen to Jeremy vine doing his elections-for-dummies spiel.

    Sky are doing the bloody weather at the moment. :/
  • GIN1138 said:

    Test

    not until 4am...
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,774
    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?
  • FPT

    Hillary is back to where she's been all day with Sporting on 305-315 ECVs.

    The fun's all over folks - she's going to win comfortably within 10 points either side of this spread I would suggest, i.e. between 295 - 325, although I would favour the upper end.
    Time to go to bed I fancy and hopefully have some profits to collect in the morning.
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    WWE

    WTAF more like

    :)
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    Are they actually counting real votes now? :o
  • IanB2 said:

    The only trouble with the BBC is having to listen to Jeremy vine doing his elections-for-dummies spiel.

    As long as he hasn't brought his cowboy boots.

    That was genuinely some of the worst TV I have watched?
  • IanB2 said:

    The only trouble with the BBC is having to listen to Jeremy vine doing his elections-for-dummies spiel.

    At least he isn't in his cowboy get-up!
  • MrsBMrsB Posts: 574
    ok. Bed time. Will sleep with toes crossed for Hilary. Night night all.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,842
    Ferks sake I'm off to the poor house if Hillary doesn't win California :D
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
    How quickly after polls close can we expect results?
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    CNN.

    What's MSNBC like? I fancy a G&T and a change
  • ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,819
    IanB2 said:

    The only trouble with the BBC is having to listen to Jeremy vine doing his elections-for-dummies spiel.

    It's even worse when they do it for UK elections. Only political nerds sit up through the night to watch these things anyway!
  • mattmatt Posts: 3,789
    IanB2 said:

    The only trouble with the BBC is having to listen to Jeremy vine doing his elections-for-dummies spiel.

    I really don't get that. Anybody watching is unlikely to be uninformed. It's like the how to do a searbelt routine on aircraft.
  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,956
    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    Flipping between BBC and Sky - PB is by far the most entertaining source though ;)
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    Who has found the best election results page to monitor things? The CNN one is alright, but a bit clunky.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712
    BBC says George W and Laura Bush did not vote for either Trump or Clinton
  • One thing to note for those watching UK tv...Sky are claiming they are the only ones with the full exit poll data.
  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,956

    IanB2 said:

    The only trouble with the BBC is having to listen to Jeremy vine doing his elections-for-dummies spiel.

    As long as he hasn't brought his cowboy boots.

    That was genuinely some of the worst TV I have watched?
    Are you confusing him with his brother in the genre-defining stand-up 'Punslinger'?
  • Essexit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    Flipping between BBC and Sky - PB is by far the most entertaining source though ;)
    and plato hasn't even entered the PB building yet... that's when the party gets started proper
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    RobD said:

    Are they actually counting real votes now? :o

    Absentee ones mostly.
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807

    FPT

    Hillary is back to where she's been all day with Sporting on 305-315 ECVs.

    The fun's all over folks - she's going to win comfortably within 10 points either side of this spread I would suggest, i.e. between 295 - 325, although I would favour the upper end.
    Time to go to bed I fancy and hopefully have some profits to collect in the morning.

    Looking like something along these lines now, based on feedback from campaigns.

    http://www.270towin.com/maps/Aw7DB
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,921
    Speedy said:

    First 3 counties from Indiana Trump overperforming Romney by a swing of 10 and 16%, and exactly the same as Romney in the third.

    Average swing 8.7 so far in Indiana.

    Are these numbers up live, somewhere?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,603
    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    BBC and Sky. The BBC seems to be easing into "election night for idiots" and Sky is just endless adverts and breaking away to someone who doesn't know very much.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,774

    rcs1000 said:

    Early numbers would seem to favour Trump, but these are all rural areas so far. Still, Trump has made progress relative to Romney everywhere.

    He's doing worse than Romney in Franklin so far.
    James Carville said, basically that the US divides into three roughly equal groups:

    White, no college education
    White, college education
    Non-white

    His view is that Trump is winning W (NC) by a mile, while Clinton has a similar share of non-white voters.

    College educated whites went for Romney marginally in 2012. This time?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,697
    Am watching Sky.

    Kay Burley has just showed up on a boat (but so far she's not thrown anyone in the water though it's still early in the night)
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Both BBC and Sky have so much bias for Clinton which can only mean boring dialogue until the results pure in.
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,049
    Jobabob said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    CNN.

    What's MSNBC like? I fancy a G&T and a change
    CNN's very good...the British TV news channels are awful
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 47,789

    Essexit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    Flipping between BBC and Sky - PB is by far the most entertaining source though ;)
    and plato hasn't even entered the PB building yet... that's when the party gets started proper
    She could be embedded in the Trump bunker. The only correspondent not to lose accreditation.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,084
    GW Bush unprecedented (say the BBC)

    ...but a precedent for Blair announcing he isn't voting for Corbyn
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,049
    Can we get CNN to cover the next UK election?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,842
    Jobabob said:

    FPT

    Hillary is back to where she's been all day with Sporting on 305-315 ECVs.

    The fun's all over folks - she's going to win comfortably within 10 points either side of this spread I would suggest, i.e. between 295 - 325, although I would favour the upper end.
    Time to go to bed I fancy and hopefully have some profits to collect in the morning.

    Looking like something along these lines now, based on feedback from campaigns.

    http://www.270towin.com/maps/Aw7DB
    Firewall finder Florida !!
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    MaxPB said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    BBC and Sky. The BBC seems to be easing into "election night for idiots" and Sky is just endless adverts and breaking away to someone who doesn't know very much.
    CNN is pretty good. I gave up on Sky hours ago – they have no decent reporters in the field it would seem.
  • IanB2 said:

    The only trouble with the BBC is having to listen to Jeremy vine doing his elections-for-dummies spiel.

    At least he isn't in his cowboy get-up!
    Great minds...
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712
    tyson said:

    Jobabob said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    CNN.

    What's MSNBC like? I fancy a G&T and a change
    CNN's very good...the British TV news channels are awful
    Andrew Neil anchoring BBC coverage though, he at least knows his stuff on US politics
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,774
    Jobabob said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    CNN.

    What's MSNBC like? I fancy a G&T and a change
    I prefer it to CNN... Still, crap, mind.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,697
    tyson said:

    Jobabob said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    CNN.

    What's MSNBC like? I fancy a G&T and a change
    CNN's very good...the British TV news channels are awful
    Is there an online "Live Stream" for CNN?
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited November 2016
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Early numbers would seem to favour Trump, but these are all rural areas so far. Still, Trump has made progress relative to Romney everywhere.

    He's doing worse than Romney in Franklin so far.
    James Carville said, basically that the US divides into three roughly equal groups:

    White, no college education
    White, college education
    Non-white

    His view is that Trump is winning W (NC) by a mile, while Clinton has a similar share of non-white voters.

    College educated whites went for Romney marginally in 2012. This time?
    According to MSNBC he is winning college educated whites by 1%.

    Most polls had Trump losing that category.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Early numbers would seem to favour Trump, but these are all rural areas so far. Still, Trump has made progress relative to Romney everywhere.

    He's doing worse than Romney in Franklin so far.
    James Carville said, basically that the US divides into three roughly equal groups:

    White, no college education
    White, college education
    Non-white

    His view is that Trump is winning W (NC) by a mile, while Clinton has a similar share of non-white voters.

    College educated whites went for Romney marginally in 2012. This time?
    Trump up by 1% with white graduates apparently
    https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/796115179461365762
  • So the consensus seems to be the coverage is a bit like the candidates, all crap, but some less than others.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,603
    HYUFD said:

    BBC says George W and Laura Bush did not vote for either Trump or Clinton

    If they voted for Stein a certain Alistair isn't going to be happy!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,842
    Health warning:

    Don't go piling on Trump in Virginia just because he is initially up like alot.

    Northern VA is heavily DEM and counts late.
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    rcs1000 said:

    Jobabob said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    CNN.

    What's MSNBC like? I fancy a G&T and a change
    I prefer it to CNN... Still, crap, mind.
    I'll give it a whirl
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,774
    Speedy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Early numbers would seem to favour Trump, but these are all rural areas so far. Still, Trump has made progress relative to Romney everywhere.

    He's doing worse than Romney in Franklin so far.
    James Carville said, basically that the US divides into three roughly equal groups:

    White, no college education
    White, college education
    Non-white

    His view is that Trump is winning W (NC) by a mile, while Clinton has a similar share of non-white voters.

    College educated whites went for Romney marginally in 2012. This time?
    According to MSNBC he is winning college educated whites by 1%.

    Most polls had Trump losing that category.
    That sounds about right.

    It's very close right now, but we'll have a better idea in 21 minutes :)
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    rcs1000 said:

    Speedy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Early numbers would seem to favour Trump, but these are all rural areas so far. Still, Trump has made progress relative to Romney everywhere.

    He's doing worse than Romney in Franklin so far.
    James Carville said, basically that the US divides into three roughly equal groups:

    White, no college education
    White, college education
    Non-white

    His view is that Trump is winning W (NC) by a mile, while Clinton has a similar share of non-white voters.

    College educated whites went for Romney marginally in 2012. This time?
    According to MSNBC he is winning college educated whites by 1%.

    Most polls had Trump losing that category.
    That sounds about right.

    It's very close right now, but we'll have a better idea in 21 minutes :)
    What happens then? :o
  • Go Rubio.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,084
    edited November 2016
    The look on her face! Doesn't look good for him.
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    Jobabob said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Jobabob said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    CNN.

    What's MSNBC like? I fancy a G&T and a change
    I prefer it to CNN... Still, crap, mind.
    I'll give it a whirl
    Is MSNBC the same as NBC?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,842
    edited November 2016
    I'm liking the sound of North Carolina.

    GOP pulling out all the stops to make the firewall finder a winner :D


    The voter suppression in NC sounds disgraceful.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,603
    Pulpstar said:

    Health warning:

    Don't go piling on Trump in Virginia just because he is initially up like alot.

    Northern VA is heavily DEM and counts late.

    Bloody DC overspill!
  • ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,819
    When do we need to stick around until to get an idea of the direction of the night? I won't be staying up all night for this one, watched all night of GE2010, 15, and EUref, and all were miserable results for me! As I'm predicting a Trump victory I don't fancy sticking around for it and hope to be proved wrong tomorrow morning!
  • DadgeDadge Posts: 2,038
    GIN1138 said:

    tyson said:

    Jobabob said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    CNN.

    What's MSNBC like? I fancy a G&T and a change
    CNN's very good...the British TV news channels are awful
    Is there an online "Live Stream" for CNN?
    Try this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGwa6UoccGc Third parties put live CNN stream up on Youtube, CNN gets it taken down, someone else puts it up etc.
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,049
    edited November 2016
    GIN1138 said:

    tyson said:

    Jobabob said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    CNN.

    What's MSNBC like? I fancy a G&T and a change
    CNN's very good...the British TV news channels are awful
    Is there an online "Live Stream" for CNN?

    edition.cnn.com/2016/11/07/politics/live-election-results-coverage

  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,072
    Why is New Hampshire a swing state as opposed to the rest of New England?
  • For what it's worth Frank Luntz is getting increasingly bullish about Clinton's chances and believes the Democrats have a serious shot at the Senate. He says it's looking more like 2012 than 2004.

    Not sure what he is seeing that others aren't.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,842
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,084
    HYUFD said:

    tyson said:

    Jobabob said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    CNN.

    What's MSNBC like? I fancy a G&T and a change
    CNN's very good...the British TV news channels are awful
    Andrew Neil anchoring BBC coverage though, he at least knows his stuff on US politics
    And they say they have embeds feeding them stuff from ABC across the square
  • When do we need to stick around until to get an idea of the direction of the night? I won't be staying up all night for this one, watched all night of GE2010, 15, and EUref, and all were miserable results for me! As I'm predicting a Trump victory I don't fancy sticking around for it and hope to be proved wrong tomorrow morning!

    I reckon we'll have an idea by around 3am
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,697
    Thanks guys!
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,005
    rcs1000 said:

    Speedy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Early numbers would seem to favour Trump, but these are all rural areas so far. Still, Trump has made progress relative to Romney everywhere.

    He's doing worse than Romney in Franklin so far.
    James Carville said, basically that the US divides into three roughly equal groups:

    White, no college education
    White, college education
    Non-white

    His view is that Trump is winning W (NC) by a mile, while Clinton has a similar share of non-white voters.

    College educated whites went for Romney marginally in 2012. This time?
    According to MSNBC he is winning college educated whites by 1%.

    Most polls had Trump losing that category.
    That sounds about right.

    It's very close right now, but we'll have a better idea in 21 minutes :)
    What happens then? Also are they not concerned about exit polling results coming out whilst the West is still voting?
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807

    Why is New Hampshire a swing state as opposed to the rest of New England?

    Very Libertarian in outlook.

    State motto: Live free or die.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,603
    The BBC's female presenter is actually pretty decent, asking questions that PB might ask!
  • Speedy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Early numbers would seem to favour Trump, but these are all rural areas so far. Still, Trump has made progress relative to Romney everywhere.

    He's doing worse than Romney in Franklin so far.
    James Carville said, basically that the US divides into three roughly equal groups:

    White, no college education
    White, college education
    Non-white

    His view is that Trump is winning W (NC) by a mile, while Clinton has a similar share of non-white voters.

    College educated whites went for Romney marginally in 2012. This time?
    According to MSNBC he is winning college educated whites by 1%.

    Most polls had Trump losing that category.
    College educated whites is probably where the shy Trump phenomenon is most prevalent.
  • IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    tyson said:

    Jobabob said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    CNN.

    What's MSNBC like? I fancy a G&T and a change
    CNN's very good...the British TV news channels are awful
    Andrew Neil anchoring BBC coverage though, he at least knows his stuff on US politics
    And they say they have embeds feeding them stuff from ABC across the square
    BBC cribbing ABCs homework?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,005

    For what it's worth Frank Luntz is getting increasingly bullish about Clinton's chances and believes the Democrats have a serious shot at the Senate. He says it's looking more like 2012 than 2004.

    Not sure what he is seeing that others aren't.

    He seems to have a very good track record.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 3,363

    Why is New Hampshire a swing state as opposed to the rest of New England?

    NH is very individual
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 4,911
    Speedy said:

    First 3 counties from Indiana Trump overperforming Romney by a swing of 10 and 16%, and exactly the same as Romney in the third.

    Average swing 8.7 so far in Indiana.

    Given that Pence is Governor of Indiana the Trump/Pence ticket was always likely to perform better in that particular state. Swings from 2012 therefore don't tell as much as you are implying.
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    OllyT said:

    Speedy said:

    First 3 counties from Indiana Trump overperforming Romney by a swing of 10 and 16%, and exactly the same as Romney in the third.

    Average swing 8.7 so far in Indiana.

    Given that Pence is Governor of Indiana the Trump/Pence ticket was always likely to perform better in that particular state. Swings from 2012 therefore don't tell as much as you are implying.
    They are also based on tiny returns.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,774
    OllyT said:

    Speedy said:

    First 3 counties from Indiana Trump overperforming Romney by a swing of 10 and 16%, and exactly the same as Romney in the third.

    Average swing 8.7 so far in Indiana.

    Given that Pence is Governor of Indiana the Trump/Pence ticket was always likely to perform better in that particular state. Swings from 2012 therefore don't tell as much as you are implying.
    Good point.
  • GIN1138 said:

    tyson said:

    Jobabob said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm watching MSNBC: what's everyone else watching?

    CNN.

    What's MSNBC like? I fancy a G&T and a change
    CNN's very good...the British TV news channels are awful
    Is there an online "Live Stream" for CNN?
    live streams of US CNN and Fox
    http://www.zahitvstation.com/watch-cnn-usa-live
    http://www.zahitvstation.com/watch-fox-news-live
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Politico changing it's tune slightly. Are they starting to Sh*t themselves?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,774
    Jobabob said:

    Why is New Hampshire a swing state as opposed to the rest of New England?

    Very Libertarian in outlook.

    State motto: Live free or die.
    You beat me to it :)
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited November 2016

    Why is New Hampshire a swing state as opposed to the rest of New England?

    Maine has also been a little swing state-ish this time.

    Both states have very high white working-class populations (whereas most of the other northeastern states either have big minority populations, big educated white populations, or a very left-wing culture in the case of Vermont).
  • glwglw Posts: 9,535
    HYUFD said:

    BBC says George W and Laura Bush did not vote for either Trump or Clinton

    If the rest of the country follows their lead everything will be alright.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 47,789
    Trump still outperforming the Republican Senate candidates in Kentucky and Indiana. Could be the most significant thing from the results so far.
  • ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,819

    rcs1000 said:

    Speedy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Early numbers would seem to favour Trump, but these are all rural areas so far. Still, Trump has made progress relative to Romney everywhere.

    He's doing worse than Romney in Franklin so far.
    James Carville said, basically that the US divides into three roughly equal groups:

    White, no college education
    White, college education
    Non-white

    His view is that Trump is winning W (NC) by a mile, while Clinton has a similar share of non-white voters.

    College educated whites went for Romney marginally in 2012. This time?
    According to MSNBC he is winning college educated whites by 1%.

    Most polls had Trump losing that category.
    That sounds about right.

    It's very close right now, but we'll have a better idea in 21 minutes :)
    What happens then? Also are they not concerned about exit polling results coming out whilst the West is still voting?
    I think that always happens in the US. To be honest their whole Election Day system seems to be a bit shambolic
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,842
    Bloody hell

    Trump is up bigly over the senate candidates.

    Dems 4 Trump ?!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712
    Indiana Senate 2% in

    Young 60%
    Bayh 34%

  • How long to the exit polls? The big O has arrived here.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,712
    edited November 2016
    MaxPB said:

    HYUFD said:

    BBC says George W and Laura Bush did not vote for either Trump or Clinton

    If they voted for Stein a certain Alistair isn't going to be happy!
    I expect they only voted downballot but you never know, George W has a lot to thank Nader for!
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,697

    How long to the exit polls? The big O has arrived here.

    15 mins?
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    rcs1000 said:

    Jobabob said:

    Why is New Hampshire a swing state as opposed to the rest of New England?

    Very Libertarian in outlook.

    State motto: Live free or die.
    You beat me to it :)
    :)
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,084
    Ornstein saying education is driving voter behaviour more than ever before in the US,
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    White voters down from 72% to 70%. Not exactly the huge drop we've been led to believe.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 47,789
    Pulpstar said:

    Bloody hell

    Trump is up bigly over the senate candidates.

    Dems 4 Trump ?!

    Feel the Bern.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,842
    Has every white male democrat voted for Trump lol ?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    Do US sites not believe in swing? Haven't seen one yet on a results page.
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    The ever entertaining Votecastr now has Hillary +4 in FL...

    ...although the expected votes counted has fallen from 94% to 84% – have they chucked some away?????
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