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    philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    edited March 2017
    1st, like Philip Hammonds budget
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    I do like Phil Hammond.
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    philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    edited March 2017
    I would have thought that NHS was almost worth backing for a return within 24 hours.

    Edit:
    Unless 'NHS' pays out and 'National Health Service' won't pay. Hammond I suspect would use the not use the acronym in his speech.
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    BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 7,987
    I'm on Brexit (1/3) and War Chest (16/1) with Ladbrokes.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,903
    https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/839435608208605184

    More info for budget length bettors :D
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    Coral evens on under 55 mins looks a bet to me.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,970
    I'm not playing either.

    Incidentally, there's a 'century' missing in the second paragraph.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,917
    edited March 2017
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I do like Phil Hammond.

    The only member of the cabinet who rises above the utterly mediocre.

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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    And Paddy's 3/1 on 'Economy' being the FIRST of the words they list looks OK too.
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    BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 7,987
    I recommend this talk by Lisa Nandy presented yesterday to the IPPR.

    The England that lies beneath the surface. The difference between cities and towns.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/lisa-nandy/lisa-nandy-ippr-speech_b_15216124.html

    I find it very insightful. She has gone up in my estimation. And I already held her in high regard.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,029
    If there were no Brexit overshadowing everything, by rights this should be the day the new leader honeymoon ends. Odds of an omnishambles?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    16/1 on Ken Clarke to fall asleep.
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    philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    16/1 on Ken Clarke to fall asleep.

    Are you implying he will still be awake at the start after PMQs?
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    MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,202
    Barnesian said:

    I recommend this talk by Lisa Nandy presented yesterday to the IPPR.

    The England that lies beneath the surface. The difference between cities and towns.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/lisa-nandy/lisa-nandy-ippr-speech_b_15216124.html

    I find it very insightful. She has gone up in my estimation. And I already held her in high regard.

    I quite like her - as things stand she'd be my choice if I had one (which I don't).
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    16/1 on Ken Clarke to fall asleep.

    Defined as being caught on camera with his eyes closed for five seconds or more:

    https://twitter.com/LadPolitics/status/839424370133073920
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,124
    SouthamObserver said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I do like Phil Hammond.

    The only member of the cabinet who rises above the utterly mediocre.

    I think that is unfair - Fallon, Davis and Greening are all pretty good and there are a number of good juniors. your judgement as is natural is heavily flavoured by your political leanings.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,903
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    And Paddy's 3/1 on 'Economy' being the FIRST of the words they list looks OK too.

    Spending looks the danger at 6-1.

    Just sticking with my over 50 mins bet personally.
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I do like Phil Hammond.

    I'll like Hammond as well provided he keeps his speech brief - less than 56.5 minutes.

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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
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    Sean_F said:

    Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.

    She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?

    But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.

    That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.

    She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.

    She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.

    It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.

    The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.

    And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,917
    Barnesian said:

    I recommend this talk by Lisa Nandy presented yesterday to the IPPR.

    The England that lies beneath the surface. The difference between cities and towns.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/lisa-nandy/lisa-nandy-ippr-speech_b_15216124.html

    I find it very insightful. She has gone up in my estimation. And I already held her in high regard.

    Yep - top notch stuff. My choice for the Labour leadership, FWIW.

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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,924
    TSE:

    "if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?"

    Brilliant.
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Bloody hell Corbyn is crap. He didn't turn up for a vote where they were deciding the people to draft on to the Selection panel for Gorton. Corbyns favourite candidate lost by one vote.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-ambushed-over-manchester-9984820.amp
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,903
    edited March 2017
    MikeSmithson said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I do like Phil Hammond.

    I'll like Hammond as well provided he keeps his speech brief - less than 56.5 minutes.

    Just sold this for a fiver a point too.

    50 minutes and 10 seconds now ta Phil.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,029
    edited March 2017
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    JonathanD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I've always felt that it is best to think of Brexit as a process, and that that process is best spread out over a considerable period of time. Sadly, I appear to be in a minority.

    Brexit would have been much more sensibly achieved by a small Remain win and then the UK gradually negotiating its way to a sensible deal over the next 10-20 years. Its why anyone who wanted a relationship with the EU that was anything more than WTO terms should have voted Remain.
    I agree with this.

    For a similar reason, people like me who would like to see this country sign up to the EU lock stock and barrel are better served by the Götterdämmerung of the Brexit process than by the alternative scenario of a 52-48 win for Remain.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    I wonder if Corbyn will put in a good response to the budget this time?
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,095
    Monksfield said:

    Barnesian said:

    I recommend this talk by Lisa Nandy presented yesterday to the IPPR.

    The England that lies beneath the surface. The difference between cities and towns.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/lisa-nandy/lisa-nandy-ippr-speech_b_15216124.html

    I find it very insightful. She has gone up in my estimation. And I already held her in high regard.

    I quite like her - as things stand she'd be my choice if I had one (which I don't).
    Well, you might have - for three quid....
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    MattWMattW Posts: 18,402
    20th like Leicester City in the Premiership :-D .
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    The "Day Without A Woman" market is a clear buy at 7, given that there are 7 female MPs on the order paper. And technically the first one will ask two questions...
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901
    Wondering if Hammond will eat a pie during his speech.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    rcs1000 said:

    TSE:

    "if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?"

    Brilliant.

    Oops, my link didn't work, it wasn't one of my brilliant lines.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,903
    edited March 2017
    Pulpstar's budget bets

    Over 50 minutes Hills £30 @ 4-6
    Sell @ 56.5 £5/minute Sporting Index.
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    CyanCyan Posts: 1,262
    isam said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    isam said:

    Why should the opposition get a vote on our trade deal with a foreign country?

    Eh? I am sure you did not mean that to sound like it does sound.
    I meant it to sound like there is no reason that Labour, the SNP, UKIP, or Lib Dem MPs have a right to decide on our deal with foreign trading blocs or countries.
    Every MP is elected on the same basis. The logic of your position is that there's no reason any of them should be able to vote on it.

    AIUI the House of Commons could express a lack of confidence in a government even for its exercise of the royal prerogative. That a government has the right to do something doesn't mean it is owed the confidence of the Commons.


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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited March 2017
    nunu said:

    Bloody hell Corbyn is crap. He didn't turn up for a vote where they were deciding the people to draft on to the Selection panel for Gorton. Corbyns favourite candidate lost by one vote.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-ambushed-over-manchester-9984820.amp

    Remember during the leadership rules fiasco when he stepped outside and they had a vote without him...
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    @bbclaurak: No 10 says PM HAS met Heseltine - awkward...

    To be fair, perhaps Theresa is so nondescript and he forgot.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,970
    Interesting Nandy article. Not sure of the 'populist' term, which seems to have become a vague, amorphous shorthand for those who disagree with the (until recently, at least) prevailing political consensus.

    She does sound rather more intelligent than those at the top of the PLP.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I wonder if Corbyn will put in a good response to the budget this time?

    Numbers aren't his strong suit...For the second year running he doesn't understand his trivial tax return.
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    isamisam Posts: 40,901
    edited March 2017
    The other parties didn't get a vote on the deal Cameron negotiated then put to the country did they? Why not?

    If Remain had won, would they have had to vote his changes through? If not, what is the difference to now?
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    PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2017
    If I were betting, I'd sell the 56.5 mins spread. Fully agree with Mike's logic - budget length expectations have been grounded by Osborne & Brown. It's worth betting against whatever those expectations are.

    Ideally, I'd be looking to lay 50-60 mins if the odds were ok.

    Not betting though.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @bbclaurak: No 10 says PM HAS met Heseltine - awkward...

    To be fair, perhaps Theresa is so nondescript and he forgot.

    Was it a meeting or a meeeeting as in when you met the Russian ambassador?
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,903
    Tissue_Price said:

    The "Day Without A Woman" market is a clear buy at 7, given that there are 7 female MPs on the order paper. And technically the first one will ask two questions...

    Cheers, on for a fiver a point again..
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @bbclaurak: No 10 says PM HAS met Heseltine - awkward...

    To be fair, perhaps Theresa is so nondescript and he forgot.

    Was it a meeting or a meeeeting as in when you met the Russian ambassador?
    It was Mike who met the Russian Ambassador, I had to make do with Matthew Barzun
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,187
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @bbclaurak: No 10 says PM HAS met Heseltine - awkward...

    To be fair, perhaps Theresa is so nondescript and he forgot.

    Given that they were neighbouring MPs for four years, I'd have thought they would have met at some point.
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    Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    Morris_Dancer said:

    She does sound rather more intelligent than those at the top of the PLP.

    I could say the same about my cat...
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    MikeSmithson said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I do like Phil Hammond.

    I'll like Hammond as well provided he keeps his speech brief - less than 56.5 minutes.

    Titter .... :smile:
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    tlg86 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @bbclaurak: No 10 says PM HAS met Heseltine - awkward...

    To be fair, perhaps Theresa is so nondescript and he forgot.

    Given that they were neighbouring MPs for four years, I'd have thought they would have met at some point.
    I'd be astonished if they had never met, not just for that, but I know Heseltine addressed/attended the Shadow cabinet between 2006 and 2010.

    Perhaps Lord Heseltine, being the gent he is, means he's never been formally introduced to Theresa May.
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Pulpstar said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    The "Day Without A Woman" market is a clear buy at 7, given that there are 7 female MPs on the order paper. And technically the first one will ask two questions...

    Cheers, on for a fiver a point again..
    They won't let me on at all :-(
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    Tissue_Price said:

    The "Day Without A Woman" market is a clear buy at 7, given that there are 7 female MPs on the order paper. And technically the first one will ask two questions...

    Good spot.
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    tlg86 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @bbclaurak: No 10 says PM HAS met Heseltine - awkward...

    To be fair, perhaps Theresa is so nondescript and he forgot.

    Given that they were neighbouring MPs for four years, I'd have thought they would have met at some point.
    I'd be astonished if they had never met, not just for that, but I know Heseltine addressed/attended the Shadow cabinet between 2006 and 2010.

    Perhaps Lord Heseltine, being the gent he is, means he's never been formally introduced to Theresa May.
    Or perhaps he's childishly belittling her with an obvious untruth. Who can say?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    Theresa May should remember it was moderate/Cameroon Tory MPs who made her PM, they can just as easily topple her
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I wonder if Corbyn will put in a good response to the budget this time?

    I don't wonder at all.

    I have every confidence that Jezza will rise to his usual standard.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    edited March 2017
    Tissue_Price said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    The "Day Without A Woman" market is a clear buy at 7, given that there are 7 female MPs on the order paper. And technically the first one will ask two questions...

    Cheers, on for a fiver a point again..
    They won't let me on at all :-(
    I'm sure Pulpstar will be happy to share some of his winnings with you as commission/thanks.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,095
    But no female Leader Jeremy....
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    isamisam Posts: 40,901
    Quite good first answer from TM the PM there, I was sure she would trot out the old "female leader" line
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    May - 15 love ....
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    Tissue_Price said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    tlg86 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @bbclaurak: No 10 says PM HAS met Heseltine - awkward...

    To be fair, perhaps Theresa is so nondescript and he forgot.

    Given that they were neighbouring MPs for four years, I'd have thought they would have met at some point.
    I'd be astonished if they had never met, not just for that, but I know Heseltine addressed/attended the Shadow cabinet between 2006 and 2010.

    Perhaps Lord Heseltine, being the gent he is, means he's never been formally introduced to Theresa May.
    Or perhaps he's childishly belittling her with an obvious untruth. Who can say?
    Well that is a possibility.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,251
    Corbyn has missed yet another open goal
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    The "Day Without A Woman" market is a clear buy at 7, given that there are 7 female MPs on the order paper. And technically the first one will ask two questions...

    Cheers, on for a fiver a point again..
    They won't let me on at all :-(
    I'm sure Pulpstar will be happy to share some of his winnings with you as commission/thanks.
    I expect it will make up 7, but it looks like there's only upside.

    If he were feeling particularly vexatious, Pulpstar could of course suggest that Theresa May herself "asked some questions" during the session...
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,951
    edited March 2017
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Theresa May should remember it was moderate/Cameroon Tory MPs who made her PM, they can just as easily topple her

    No they didn't on their own, the likes of Davis and Fox backed her in the final round. Crabb was the Cameroon/moderate candidate and he came second to last. If May is toppled it will be in favour of a leader more in the Leadsom than the Osborne mode, especially given most Tory members want an even harder Brexit than May does
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    isamisam Posts: 40,901
    Is the bloke in the brown suit about three along from Skinner donning a goatee beard and ponytail?????
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,251
    The looks on labour MPs faces when PM suggests if Corbyn is looking for a conspiracy he should look behind him
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,249
    Tezza and Jezza playing it straight so far. Weakish joke about the enemy behind from Tezza.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,161
    May denies gentlemen's agreement in Surrey. This could come back to haunt her.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,249
    uh-oh Tezza less sure of life. Break in the voice and stumbling.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,029
    That Theresa chuckle will become a meme.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    A fire in a lorry carrying tins of sports drink powder, which then started to explode, has closed part of a motorway

    Sports drinks tins 'explode' in M6 lorry fire in Staffordshire
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-39203235

    Anybody who has tried those know how explosive to your insides they can be!
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    isamisam Posts: 40,901
    edited March 2017
    williamglenn said:

    That Theresa chuckle will become a meme.

    100%

    The twitterati must be on the case already
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,249
    uh....oh....she doesn't know. Tone would never be in that position.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,951
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FPT

    Sean_F said:

    Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.

    She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?

    But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.

    That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.

    She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.

    She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.

    It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.

    The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.

    And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
    Top PISA ranked Singapore effectively selects at 13
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,029
    I'm not sure if it's a strength or a weakness but May very obviously repeats prepared phrases over and over to deal with tricky issues. She doesn't make any attempt to paraphrase.

    - 'No special deal that was not available to other councils'
    - 'Trading with and operating within the single market'.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    @Redpeter99: Like a boxing match between Charles Hawtrey and Kenneth Williams. #PMQs
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,251
    williamglenn said:

    I'm not sure if it's a strength or a weakness but May very obviously repeats prepared phrases over and over to deal with tricky issues. She doesn't make any attempt to paraphrase.

    - 'No special deal that was not available to other councils'
    - 'Trading with and operating within the single market'.

    The problem is Corbyn keeps asking the same question even after he has had an answer
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,029
    isam said:

    williamglenn said:

    That Theresa chuckle will become a meme.

    100%

    The twitterati must be on the case already
    https://twitter.com/jamesorharry/status/839448666456928256
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,249
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    williamglenn said:

    I'm not sure if it's a strength or a weakness but May very obviously repeats prepared phrases over and over to deal with tricky issues. She doesn't make any attempt to paraphrase.

    - 'No special deal that was not available to other councils'
    - 'Trading with and operating within the single market'.

    The problem is Corbyn keeps asking the same question even after he has had an answer
    He didn't get an answer, and in any case that is the point of PMQs. To ask something unanswerable (although I would quite like to know if there was a deal with SCC) and then keep on asking it.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,095
    Of course, if Labour had made basic planning for increased education, health, infrastructure, when it threw open the doors to record inward migration, we perhaps wouldn't have this problem Mr Corbyn....
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,799
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FPT

    Sean_F said:

    Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.

    She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?

    But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.

    That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.

    She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.

    She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.

    It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.

    The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.

    And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
    Without knowing the facts of that case, I can't comment. I would say that people I know who are acquainted with Theresa May like her a lot.

    WRT grammar schools, you do come over as a bit Anthony Crossland.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    Why is it that Angus Robertson with two questions puts Mrs May under more pressure than Jeremy Corbyn's six questions?
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    midwintermidwinter Posts: 1,112
    Nice when leafy Surrey gets a handout in the same month that the MP for Epsom and Ewell withdraws funding for the (much needed) Chichester by-pass.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,161
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Why is it that Angus Robertson with two questions puts Mrs May under more pressure than Jeremy Corbyn's six questions?

    because he's not utterly crap and unfit to be in the House, let alone party leader.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,581
    "Theresa May says the Budget may have some news for Mr Corbyn on social care funding for councils."

    That sounds like a 1/5 winner to me.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,251
    TOPPING said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    williamglenn said:

    I'm not sure if it's a strength or a weakness but May very obviously repeats prepared phrases over and over to deal with tricky issues. She doesn't make any attempt to paraphrase.

    - 'No special deal that was not available to other councils'
    - 'Trading with and operating within the single market'.

    The problem is Corbyn keeps asking the same question even after he has had an answer
    He didn't get an answer, and in any case that is the point of PMQs. To ask something unanswerable (although I would quite like to know if there was a deal with SCC) and then keep on asking it.
    The PM has said three times today at PMQs (so on record) there was no special deal with SCC.
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Why is it that Angus Robertson with two questions puts Mrs May under more pressure than Jeremy Corbyn's six questions?

    Competence. Though his seat could yet be interesting...

    Moray 2015:

    SNP 24,384 49.5%
    Con 15,319 31.1%
    Lab 4,898 9.9%
    UKIP 1,939 3.9%
    LD 1,395 2.8%
    Green 1,345 2.7%
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    Sean_F said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FPT

    Sean_F said:

    Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.

    She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?

    But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.

    That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.

    She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.

    She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.

    It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.

    The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.

    And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
    Without knowing the facts of that case, I can't comment. I would say that people I know who are acquainted with Theresa May like her a lot.

    WRT grammar schools, you do come over as a bit Anthony Crossland.
    Somebody has to think of the children left behind.

    Is part of my caring one nation beliefs.
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    isamisam Posts: 40,901
    edited March 2017
    williamglenn said:

    isam said:

    williamglenn said:

    That Theresa chuckle will become a meme.

    100%

    The twitterati must be on the case already
    https://twitter.com/jamesorharry/status/839448666456928256
    I am sure we will see

    "What do you think of refugees living in squalor, Theresa?"
    "What do you think of pensioners dying as a result of your policies, Theresa?"
    "Have you heard about the lady from Singapore that was deported, Theresa?"

    ...from the far left, Cameroons and Guardian tweeters!
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    Tissue_Price said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Why is it that Angus Robertson with two questions puts Mrs May under more pressure than Jeremy Corbyn's six questions?

    Competence. Though his seat could yet be interesting...

    Moray 2015:

    SNP 24,384 49.5%
    Con 15,319 31.1%
    Lab 4,898 9.9%
    UKIP 1,939 3.9%
    LD 1,395 2.8%
    Green 1,345 2.7%
    Come on tactical unionist voters, do your duty.
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    rottenborough said:

    May denies gentlemen's agreement in Surrey. This could come back to haunt her.

    Well quite. Apart from a noted resident of Hersham there are sadly few gentleman in Surrey ....
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,951
    Sean_F said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FPT

    Sean_F said:

    Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.

    She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?

    But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.

    That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.

    She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.

    She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.

    It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.

    The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.

    And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
    Without knowing the facts of that case, I can't comment. I would say that people I know who are acquainted with Theresa May like her a lot.

    WRT grammar schools, you do come over as a bit Anthony Crossland.
    Like many of the privately educated TSE and Crosland are great fans of comprehensives just as long as they never have to send their children to them
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,029
    isam said:

    williamglenn said:

    isam said:

    williamglenn said:

    That Theresa chuckle will become a meme.

    100%

    The twitterati must be on the case already
    https://twitter.com/jamesorharry/status/839448666456928256
    I am sure we will see

    "What do you think of refugees living in squalor, Theresa?"
    "What do you think of pensioners dying as a result of your policies, Theresa?"
    "Have you heard about the lady from Singapore that was deported, Theresa?"

    ...from the far left, Cameroons and Guardian tweeters!
    "You don't get this with a Miele..."
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,581
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Why is it that Angus Robertson with two questions puts Mrs May under more pressure than Jeremy Corbyn's six questions?

    Now you know the answer to that already, you are just wanting one of us in the red corner to spell it out!
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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 31,925
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    rcs1000 said:

    TSE:

    "if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?"

    Brilliant.

    Well, I attended one, as did my wife. We both think, and thought, that they were divisive and elitist. However, that’s only two.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    SandyRentool said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Why is it that Angus Robertson with two questions puts Mrs May under more pressure than Jeremy Corbyn's six questions?

    Now you know the answer to that already, you are just wanting one of us in the red corner to spell it out!
    Well you did vote for him, so perhaps you could explain.

    (And yes, it was a rhetorical question)
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,917
    HYUFD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FPT

    Sean_F said:

    Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.

    She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?

    But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.

    That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.

    She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.

    She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.

    It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.

    The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.

    And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
    Top PISA ranked Singapore effectively selects at 13

    Singapore and education - handle with extreme care:

    http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/lets-kill-the-drill-approach-in-schools

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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    OldKingCole said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    rcs1000 said:

    TSE:

    "if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?"

    Brilliant.

    Well, I attended one, as did my wife. We both think, and thought, that they were divisive and elitist. However, that’s only two.
    They got you through mathematics though .... :smile:
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,299
    edited March 2017
    My second favourite man crush asking a question at PMQs right now
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,579
    SandyRentool said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Why is it that Angus Robertson with two questions puts Mrs May under more pressure than Jeremy Corbyn's six questions?

    Now you know the answer to that already, you are just wanting one of us in the red corner to spell it out!
    Corbyn could easily learn from Robertson - simple focussed questions, not a half baked ramble around the houses.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2017
    I guess the big question at the moment is if the Tories win enormous victories at the local elections in a few weeks' time will they still refuse to hold an early election? They must be thinking about what happened with Brown in 2007. Labour could be facing a meltdown in the shire counties where a lot of the marginals are located.
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,158
    O/T the attached two articles were recommended to me by someone who, it is fair to say, is not one of Corbyn's biggest fans.

    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/economy/2017/02/how-can-labour-refit-itself-modern-world

    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/03/chuka-umunna-labour-alternative

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    midwintermidwinter Posts: 1,112
    Sean_F said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FPT

    Sean_F said:

    Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.

    She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?

    But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.

    That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.

    She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.

    She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.

    It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.

    The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.

    And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
    Without knowing the facts of that case, I can't comment. I would say that people I know who are acquainted with Theresa May like her a lot.

    WRT grammar schools, you do come over as a bit Anthony Crossland.
    Bit silly to plough money into grammar schools when so many local authorities are unfairly underfunded wrt education, regardless of the ideology behind it.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,251
    CarlottaVance said:

    SandyRentool said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Why is it that Angus Robertson with two questions puts Mrs May under more pressure than Jeremy Corbyn's six questions?

    Now you know the answer to that already, you are just wanting one of us in the red corner to spell it out!
    Corbyn could easily learn from Robertson - simple focussed questions, not a half baked ramble around the houses.
    Corbyn will not be able to change his half baked rambling - that is what he does and has throughout his career
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    My second favourite man crush asking a question at PMQs right now

    A man crush .... I missed that. What was Eric Pickles question?
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,161
    SouthamObserver said:

    HYUFD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FPT

    Sean_F said:

    Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.

    She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?

    But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.

    That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.

    She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.

    She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.

    It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.

    The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.

    And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
    Top PISA ranked Singapore effectively selects at 13

    Singapore and education - handle with extreme care:

    http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/lets-kill-the-drill-approach-in-schools

    Finland is 5th. No selection.
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