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edited March 2017 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » George Galloway could put himself forward for the Manchester Gorton by-election

When are the bookies going to take note of this – George Galloway may enter race to become Gorton MP https://t.co/ce0JQ5ADxy

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    EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,956
    If Galloway runs, the LDs might end up first like this comment and Tim Farron will be unbearably smug. Don't do it, George.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,942
    Good bet OGH.

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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    edited March 2017
    DavidL said:

    Well that was a seriously depressing half. And England are normally better in the second half. Sigh.

    Think Barcelona (Scotland) against Paris St G (England) .... x ten :astonished:
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    fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,279
    Scottish Labour's only MP...
    Twitter
    Ian Murray‏@IanMurrayMP 29m29 minutes ago
    Often asked why I resigned from Shadow Cabinet. Ladies & Gentlemen I give u Jeremy Corbyn. He's destroying the party that soo many need.


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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,055
    fitalass said:

    Scottish Labour's only MP...
    Twitter
    Ian Murray‏@IanMurrayMP 29m29 minutes ago
    Often asked why I resigned from Shadow Cabinet. Ladies & Gentlemen I give u Jeremy Corbyn. He's destroying the party that soo many need.

    Perhaps the first split will not be SDP2 but a truly independent Scottish Labour party.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited March 2017
    England still got the scary bench to come on....40-7 down, knackered and england can still bring on the likes of big billy!
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,925
    Last time Galloway stood against Labour Corbyn backed him. It would not be a surprise if he did so again.
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    AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,589
    Would be fairly entertaining.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    Could see Galloway winning.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,881
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Could see Galloway winning.

    Did you just switch the TV on again?
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @skynewsniall: If I were still working Westminster, I'd use footage from #ENGVSCO as some poncy visual metaphor for Corbyn's #indyref2 intervention today.
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    BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,489
    fitalass said:

    Scottish Labour's only MP...
    Twitter
    Ian Murray‏@IanMurrayMP 29m29 minutes ago
    Often asked why I resigned from Shadow Cabinet. Ladies & Gentlemen I give u Jeremy Corbyn. He's destroying the party that soo many need.


    Was that sent today?
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,235
    JackW said:

    DavidL said:

    Well that was a seriously depressing half. And England are normally better in the second half. Sigh.

    Think Barcelona (Scotland) against Paris St G (England) .... x ten :astonished:
    This is the first time England have played to their potential in the 6 nations (arguably against Wales for bits). They are scary when they are playing like this. So much power and speed and so many options.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    Given how Galloway did in the London Mayoralty race, I'd be inclined to agree with OGH he's just trying to influence the race rather than that he will a) run or b) hurt Lab so much LDs are in with a chance.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    Mr. Sandpit, no. It wasn't me.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,881
    So if we get Labour, a pissed-off-with-the-local-party Indy Lab, Galloway, Green, LD and Tory, could we come close to a six-way marginal, with 20% the winning score?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited March 2017
    DavidL said:

    JackW said:

    DavidL said:

    Well that was a seriously depressing half. And England are normally better in the second half. Sigh.

    Think Barcelona (Scotland) against Paris St G (England) .... x ten :astonished:
    This is the first time England have played to their potential in the 6 nations (arguably against Wales for bits). They are scary when they are playing like this. So much power and speed and so many options.
    Bloody exciting, but Still not good enough to beat new Zealand though.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    11th highest out of 650 is 29%.

    Goes to show how hysteria about Muslim majority areas etc is a nonsense.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    The best thing about this is that it means the dumb bonus points won't have affected the destination of the trophy.
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,045
    Harsh, but..

    https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/840601898646458368
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Big billllllllllllllllllllly....
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,235
    Theuniondivvie said:

    Harsh, but..

    https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/840601898646458368

    What's the muppet done now ?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    DavidL said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Harsh, but..

    https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/840601898646458368

    What's the muppet done now ?
    Said scotland should have another Indy ref.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    Mr. Divvie, some say Jeremy Corbyn gave Scotland a pre-match speech to enthuse them.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    Loving some the utterly predicable replies to that Ian Murray tweet. We've got a LD candidate telling him to join them, a bunch of people saying they have no choice to vote Tory while Corbyn is leader, a series of ones pointing out Scotland was lost before Corbyn, accusation he's not a socialist (subterfuge Tory in fact). Good times.

    Like people who think others vote Tory because Labour were not left wing enough, it is baffling to think people honestly believe (and they do) that were it not for fake Labour people like Murray undermining Corbyn everyone would love him, while simultaneously deriding people like Murray as having no influence.
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    EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,956
    Theuniondivvie said:

    Harsh, but..

    https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/840601898646458368

    What's he done now?
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Philip_Thompson said:

    11th highest out of 650 is 29%.

    Goes to show how hysteria about Muslim majority areas etc is a nonsense.

    The problem is segregation which leads to racism and bigotry on both sides.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    SeanT said:

    Christ. England could get 50 here

    And the rest...The big boys are coming on now.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,962
    Theuniondivvie said:

    Harsh, but..

    https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/840601898646458368

    Without wishing to trigger the Klaxon, maybe this is good news for the Scottish Tories - the unionist vote may continue to coalesce around them.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,881
    SeanT said:

    Christ. England could get 50 here

    Did you mean 70? There's still 22 mins left and a bunch of fresh players to come off the bench!
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    DavidL said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Harsh, but..

    https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/840601898646458368

    What's the muppet done now ?
    Kevin Schofield‏ @PolhomeEditor
    NEW Jeremy Corbyn: Second Scottish independence vote 'absolutely fine' (link: http://bit.ly/2ngzK5e) bit.ly/2ngzK5e
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    DavidL said:

    JackW said:

    DavidL said:

    Well that was a seriously depressing half. And England are normally better in the second half. Sigh.

    Think Barcelona (Scotland) against Paris St G (England) .... x ten :astonished:
    This is the first time England have played to their potential in the 6 nations (arguably against Wales for bits). They are scary when they are playing like this. So much power and speed and so many options.
    I haven't got enough sofas to hide behind ....

    Brilliant from England aided by some inept Scottish play .... :astonished:
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,055
    RobD said:

    Without wishing to trigger the Klaxon, maybe this is good news for the Scottish Tories - the unionist vote may continue to coalesce around them.

    I'm not sure that the Tories holding a monopoly on unionism is a recipe for maintaining majority support...
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    AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,589
    RobD said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Harsh, but..

    https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/840601898646458368

    Without wishing to trigger the Klaxon, maybe this is good news for the Scottish Tories - the unionist vote may continue to coalesce around them.
    Also a kick in the teeth for SLab ahead of the council elections in May. Oops.
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. Divvie, some say Jeremy Corbyn gave Scotland a pre-match speech to enthuse them.

    :smile::smile:
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Running into Jamie George not a good idea!!!
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,986
    How Uri Geller told Theresa May she would be PM over a spoon which used to belong to Winston Churchill
    http://www.urigeller.com/uri-predicted-theresa-may-next-pm-2014/
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    ThreeQuidder said:

    The best thing about this is that it means the dumb bonus points won't have affected the destination of the trophy.

    Don't see a huge problem with them myself - if you win all your games you win the tournament regardless of whether you got any bonus points in your wins and someone else got the maximum (5+5+5+5+2), so it truly is just another means of tie breaking should no one get a grands slam.
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    FishingFishing Posts: 4,561
    Would anyone else feel that money won by betting on Gorgeous George to win is in some way dirty?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,986
    How is England going to survive if the Scots vote for independence, pretty well it seems judging by the latest rugby score
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Bradford west is 51% Muslim and he got 55% in the by election, Bethbal green and bow was 35% Muslim in 2001 and he got 36%. Can he win with only 30%?
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    BojabobBojabob Posts: 642
    Scotland just haven't really turned up, sloppy and lacking the flair of other games. Shame. I wanted to win but expected better of our opponents.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    edited March 2017
    Theuniondivvie said:

    Harsh, but..

    https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/840601898646458368

    Nothing could improve a cup of coffee as far as I'm concerned, so I read that as him being unable to solve the inherent problems of the coffee (labour) rather than being the cause or escalator of it being unpalatable. Rather a Corbynista view, really.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,055
    HYUFD said:

    How Uri Geller told Theresa May she would be PM over a spoon which used to belong to Winston Churchill
    http://www.urigeller.com/uri-predicted-theresa-may-next-pm-2014/

    One for the big Private Eye interview...
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    AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,589
    Fishing said:

    Would anyone else feel that money won by betting on Gorgeous George to win is in some way dirty?

    i won a tidy sum when he stood in Bradford, but I learned to live with the guilt...
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    BojabobBojabob Posts: 642
    Scots ref: possibly the only time I have ever agreed with Jezza Corbyn. Of course, it's fine. And Scotland should vote Yes.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    edited March 2017
    nunu said:

    DavidL said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Harsh, but..

    https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/840601898646458368

    What's the muppet done now ?
    Kevin Schofield‏ @PolhomeEditor
    NEW Jeremy Corbyn: Second Scottish independence vote 'absolutely fine' (link: http://bit.ly/2ngzK5e) bit.ly/2ngzK5e
    In all honesty, while the SNP are so popular they will get a second vote at some point, and maybe Corbyn is just trying to recognise that without sacrificing his pro-union position, but even so, it comes across as weaksauce.

    I know SCON seem to be trying to consolidate the remaining Unionist vote, but there is surely a core of people who are/were die hard unionists who just won't go to them, so where do they go if SLAB continues to spiral?
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    nunu said:

    Bradford west is 51% Muslim and he got 55% in the by election, Bethbal green and bow was 35% Muslim in 2001 and he got 36%. Can he win with only 30%?

    Is there any sign that the Labour vote with muslims is at risk under Corbyn?

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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    Fishing said:

    Would anyone else feel that money won by betting on Gorgeous George to win is in some way dirty?

    Hey, it's not the money's fault, you leave the money out of this.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    kle4 said:

    ThreeQuidder said:

    The best thing about this is that it means the dumb bonus points won't have affected the destination of the trophy.

    Don't see a huge problem with them myself - if you win all your games you win the tournament regardless of whether you got any bonus points in your wins and someone else got the maximum (5+5+5+5+2), so it truly is just another means of tie breaking should no one get a grands slam.
    That's only because they bodged the system by adding the "three points for a grand slam" rule.

    If you have to bodge the system like that it's a bad system.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    DavidL said:

    JackW said:

    DavidL said:

    Well that was a seriously depressing half. And England are normally better in the second half. Sigh.

    Think Barcelona (Scotland) against Paris St G (England) .... x ten :astonished:
    This is the first time England have played to their potential in the 6 nations (arguably against Wales for bits). They are scary when they are playing like this. So much power and speed and so many options.
    Bloody exciting, but Still not good enough to beat new Zealand though.
    It's possible, if they have an off day.
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    BojabobBojabob Posts: 642
    SeanT said:

    Chapeau to Scotland for fighting to the end.

    Agreed. That was better. A good try.
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    fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,279
    williamglenn said:

    fitalass said:

    Scottish Labour's only MP...
    Twitter
    Ian Murray‏@IanMurrayMP 29m29 minutes ago
    Often asked why I resigned from Shadow Cabinet. Ladies & Gentlemen I give u Jeremy Corbyn. He's destroying the party that soo many need.

    Perhaps the first split will not be SDP2 but a truly independent Scottish Labour party.
    That crossed my mind too. Judging by the response I am seeing on my twitter feed, Jeremy Corbyn has just single handedly managed to alienate the Scottish Labour party. Seriously, could we be about to see a situation where the Scottish Labour party tell Corbyn not to bother ever coming back to visit them in Scotland after so blatantly undermining them?

    Corbyn is not even trying anymore, and I am absolutely convinced he has neither the temperament or desire to lead the Labour party through a GE campaign. I can see Corbyn hanging on long enough to cause even further electoral damage, then resigning with little or no warning, leaving behind him a party more damaged and divided than the one we saw back in early eighties.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    kle4 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    DavidL said:

    JackW said:

    DavidL said:

    Well that was a seriously depressing half. And England are normally better in the second half. Sigh.

    Think Barcelona (Scotland) against Paris St G (England) .... x ten :astonished:
    This is the first time England have played to their potential in the 6 nations (arguably against Wales for bits). They are scary when they are playing like this. So much power and speed and so many options.
    Bloody exciting, but Still not good enough to beat new Zealand though.
    It's possible, if they have an off day.
    Still too many mistakes and some weakness in defence. But where Eddie jones has taken england in a short space of time is fantastic.
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    BojabobBojabob Posts: 642
    ThreeQuidder said:

    kle4 said:

    ThreeQuidder said:

    The best thing about this is that it means the dumb bonus points won't have affected the destination of the trophy.

    Don't see a huge problem with them myself - if you win all your games you win the tournament regardless of whether you got any bonus points in your wins and someone else got the maximum (5+5+5+5+2), so it truly is just another means of tie breaking should no one get a grands slam.
    That's only because they bodged the system by adding the "three points for a grand slam" rule.

    If you have to bodge the system like that it's a bad system.
    Total rubbish. The new system is excellent.
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Bojabob said:

    Scots ref: possibly the only time I have ever agreed with Jezza Corbyn. Of course, it's fine. And Scotland should vote Yes.

    Agreed. Repeal 1707. Let Scotland be free.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    The Morris Dancer Party does not support bonus points.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    ThreeQuidder said:

    kle4 said:

    ThreeQuidder said:

    The best thing about this is that it means the dumb bonus points won't have affected the destination of the trophy.

    Don't see a huge problem with them myself - if you win all your games you win the tournament regardless of whether you got any bonus points in your wins and someone else got the maximum (5+5+5+5+2), so it truly is just another means of tie breaking should no one get a grands slam.
    That's only because they bodged the system by adding the "three points for a grand slam" rule.

    If you have to bodge the system like that it's a bad system.
    How is that a bodge?! It's part and parcel of the bonus system.

    I think it was an unnecessary addition, but given it does have that failsafe even if you characterise it as a bodge, then what does it even matter?
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    PeterCPeterC Posts: 1,274
    Bojabob said:

    Scots ref: possibly the only time I have ever agreed with Jezza Corbyn. Of course, it's fine. And Scotland should vote Yes.

    Your posts suggest you think that BREXIT is bonkers. BREXIT is a walk in the park compared to Scottish independence.
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Fishing said:

    Would anyone else feel that money won by betting on Gorgeous George to win is in some way dirty?

    What a stupid post !
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    Mr. Surbiton, you do realise that it's not even a decade ago that we had a Scottish PM and Chancellor? That's hardly the epitome of slavery.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,881
    edited March 2017
    Only one more converted try needed to beat the Aussie cricket score!
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    I hope Scotland get a bonus point, I want them to finish as high as possible in the table, otherwise their genuine improvement will not seem obvious in table position.
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    fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,279
    BigRich said:

    fitalass said:

    Scottish Labour's only MP...
    Twitter
    Ian Murray‏@IanMurrayMP 29m29 minutes ago
    Often asked why I resigned from Shadow Cabinet. Ladies & Gentlemen I give u Jeremy Corbyn. He's destroying the party that soo many need.


    Was that sent today?
    It was posted about an hour ago, followed by this.
    Twitter
    Ian Murray‏@IanMurrayMP 31m31 minutes ago
    Independence would be disaster for Scotland and my constituents. Supporting another Indy ref goes against wishes of Scots. Wrong then & now.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,925
    Bojabob said:

    Scots ref: possibly the only time I have ever agreed with Jezza Corbyn. Of course, it's fine. And Scotland should vote Yes.

    He has totally undermined the Scottish Labour party. That is unforgiveable. Whatever his private thoughts, a leader has wider obligations.

    Is there a Labour policy Corbyn actually agrees with? On top of today's mess, he's anti-EU, anti-NATO, anti-Trident, anti-Israel.

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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,541
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    DavidL said:

    JackW said:

    DavidL said:

    Well that was a seriously depressing half. And England are normally better in the second half. Sigh.

    Think Barcelona (Scotland) against Paris St G (England) .... x ten :astonished:
    This is the first time England have played to their potential in the 6 nations (arguably against Wales for bits). They are scary when they are playing like this. So much power and speed and so many options.
    Bloody exciting, but Still not good enough to beat new Zealand though.
    Eddie Jones would be the first to say they are a work in progress.
    I wouldn't bet against it (without tempting odds).
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    surbiton said:

    Bojabob said:

    Scots ref: possibly the only time I have ever agreed with Jezza Corbyn. Of course, it's fine. And Scotland should vote Yes.

    Agreed. Repeal 1707. Let Scotland be free.
    It's not about 'let'ing anything, it's about what they think is best. At best(for Unionists) it's on a knife's edge, but it is not about releasing a captive.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    edited March 2017
    delete

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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    edited March 2017
    fitalass said:

    williamglenn said:

    fitalass said:

    Scottish Labour's only MP...
    Twitter
    Ian Murray‏@IanMurrayMP 29m29 minutes ago
    Often asked why I resigned from Shadow Cabinet. Ladies & Gentlemen I give u Jeremy Corbyn. He's destroying the party that soo many need.

    Perhaps the first split will not be SDP2 but a truly independent Scottish Labour party.
    Judging by the response I am seeing on my twitter feed
    NEVER judge anything that way!
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,235
    nunu said:

    DavidL said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Harsh, but..

    https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/840601898646458368

    What's the muppet done now ?
    Kevin Schofield‏ @PolhomeEditor
    NEW Jeremy Corbyn: Second Scottish independence vote 'absolutely fine' (link: http://bit.ly/2ngzK5e) bit.ly/2ngzK5e
    FFS. Is there no end to the damage that prat can do?
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    kle4 said:

    ThreeQuidder said:

    kle4 said:

    ThreeQuidder said:

    The best thing about this is that it means the dumb bonus points won't have affected the destination of the trophy.

    Don't see a huge problem with them myself - if you win all your games you win the tournament regardless of whether you got any bonus points in your wins and someone else got the maximum (5+5+5+5+2), so it truly is just another means of tie breaking should no one get a grands slam.
    That's only because they bodged the system by adding the "three points for a grand slam" rule.

    If you have to bodge the system like that it's a bad system.
    How is that a bodge?! It's part and parcel of the bonus system.

    I think it was an unnecessary addition, but given it does have that failsafe even if you characterise it as a bodge, then what does it even matter?
    No, the traditional rugby union bonus point system used in competitions all over the world is a bonus point for 4 tries and a bonus point for losing by 7 or less. And that's it.

    They had to add the grand slam bodge because otherwise a GS winner could lose the championship, which is obviously ridiculous.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    Mr. L, if Corbyn were Prime Minister, he could do a lot more damage.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    SouthamObserver said:

    Bojabob said:

    Scots ref: possibly the only time I have ever agreed with Jezza Corbyn. Of course, it's fine. And Scotland should vote Yes.

    He has totally undermined the Scottish Labour party. That is unforgiveable. Whatever his private thoughts, a leader has wider obligations.

    Is there a Labour policy Corbyn actually agrees with? On top of today's mess, he's anti-EU, anti-NATO, anti-Trident, anti-Israel.

    He supports what is in its HEART, not what blairite apparatchiks made policy.
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    williamglenn said:

    fitalass said:

    Scottish Labour's only MP...
    Twitter
    Ian Murray‏@IanMurrayMP 29m29 minutes ago
    Often asked why I resigned from Shadow Cabinet. Ladies & Gentlemen I give u Jeremy Corbyn. He's destroying the party that soo many need.

    Perhaps the first split will not be SDP2 but a truly independent Scottish Labour party.
    Scottish Labour should be a completely separate party with policies designed for the betterment of Scottish people. It could , of course, send fraternal delegates to the Labour conference and Labour could do likewise to the SLAB conference.

    But they should be totally independent. I believe the Scottish Greens are separate from the Green Party.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    ThreeQuidder said:

    kle4 said:

    ThreeQuidder said:

    kle4 said:

    ThreeQuidder said:

    The best thing about this is that it means the dumb bonus points won't have affected the destination of the trophy.

    Don't see a huge problem with them myself - if you win all your games you win the tournament regardless of whether you got any bonus points in your wins and someone else got the maximum (5+5+5+5+2), so it truly is just another means of tie breaking should no one get a grands slam.
    That's only because they bodged the system by adding the "three points for a grand slam" rule.

    If you have to bodge the system like that it's a bad system.
    How is that a bodge?! It's part and parcel of the bonus system.

    I think it was an unnecessary addition, but given it does have that failsafe even if you characterise it as a bodge, then what does it even matter?
    No, the traditional rugby union bonus point system used in competitions all over the world is a bonus point for 4 tries and a bonus point for losing by 7 or less. And that's it.

    They had to add the grand slam bodge because otherwise a GS winner could lose the championship, which is obviously ridiculous.
    Right, so they fixed it, so what's the problem?
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,235
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. L, if Corbyn were Prime Minister, he could do a lot more damage.

    Yes but we all know that is inconceivable. It is the damage that those delusional balloons in Labour are allowing him to do as LOTO that we have to worry about. Self indulgent idiots.
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    kle4 said:

    surbiton said:

    Bojabob said:

    Scots ref: possibly the only time I have ever agreed with Jezza Corbyn. Of course, it's fine. And Scotland should vote Yes.

    Agreed. Repeal 1707. Let Scotland be free.
    It's not about 'let'ing anything, it's about what they think is best. At best(for Unionists) it's on a knife's edge, but it is not about releasing a captive.
    I see absolutely no problem with Scotland being independent in Europe. In fact, England can be independent too , outside the EU.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    Mr. L, we live in turbulent times. Many a man has proclaimed "Inconceivable!" only to find his fears were, indeed, conceived.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,986
    In a 4 way fight between Galloway, Labour, the LDs and Greens he has a chamce of winning, especially given over a quarter of voters are Muslim
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    fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,279
    DavidL said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Harsh, but..

    https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/840601898646458368

    What's the muppet done now ?
    DavidL, Corbyn has been in Glasgow today, it took him just a few hours to not only undermine, but also totally wreck the SLab fightback across Scotland before the local elections.
    The Scottish Labour spin team can file this headline under you couldn't make it up....
    The Scotsman - Jeremy Corbyn: indyref2 would be ‘absolutely fine’
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,830
    surbiton said:

    Bojabob said:

    Scots ref: possibly the only time I have ever agreed with Jezza Corbyn. Of course, it's fine. And Scotland should vote Yes.

    Agreed. Repeal 1707. Let Scotland be free.
    Scotland is free.
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    HYUFD said:

    In a 4 way fight between Galloway, Labour, the LDs and Greens he has a chamce of winning, especially given over a quarter of voters are Muslim

    The Liberal Democrats will win anyway. The smart thing will be to have a pro EU progressive Muslim candidate. Even better, a woman. Solves their women deficit too.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,986
    williamglenn said:

    HYUFD said:

    How Uri Geller told Theresa May she would be PM over a spoon which used to belong to Winston Churchill
    http://www.urigeller.com/uri-predicted-theresa-may-next-pm-2014/

    One for the big Private Eye interview...
    Agreed
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    surbiton said:

    kle4 said:

    surbiton said:

    Bojabob said:

    Scots ref: possibly the only time I have ever agreed with Jezza Corbyn. Of course, it's fine. And Scotland should vote Yes.

    Agreed. Repeal 1707. Let Scotland be free.
    It's not about 'let'ing anything, it's about what they think is best. At best(for Unionists) it's on a knife's edge, but it is not about releasing a captive.
    I see absolutely no problem with Scotland being independent in Europe. In fact, England can be independent too , outside the EU.
    I never said they couldn't. But it isn't about us 'letting' them do it, it's about them choosing it. They might. But they might not.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,830
    DavidL said:

    nunu said:

    DavidL said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Harsh, but..

    https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/840601898646458368

    What's the muppet done now ?
    Kevin Schofield‏ @PolhomeEditor
    NEW Jeremy Corbyn: Second Scottish independence vote 'absolutely fine' (link: http://bit.ly/2ngzK5e) bit.ly/2ngzK5e
    FFS. Is there no end to the damage that prat can do?
    no.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    kle4 said:

    ThreeQuidder said:

    kle4 said:

    ThreeQuidder said:

    kle4 said:

    ThreeQuidder said:

    The best thing about this is that it means the dumb bonus points won't have affected the destination of the trophy.

    Don't see a huge problem with them myself - if you win all your games you win the tournament regardless of whether you got any bonus points in your wins and someone else got the maximum (5+5+5+5+2), so it truly is just another means of tie breaking should no one get a grands slam.
    That's only because they bodged the system by adding the "three points for a grand slam" rule.

    If you have to bodge the system like that it's a bad system.
    How is that a bodge?! It's part and parcel of the bonus system.

    I think it was an unnecessary addition, but given it does have that failsafe even if you characterise it as a bodge, then what does it even matter?
    No, the traditional rugby union bonus point system used in competitions all over the world is a bonus point for 4 tries and a bonus point for losing by 7 or less. And that's it.

    They had to add the grand slam bodge because otherwise a GS winner could lose the championship, which is obviously ridiculous.
    Right, so they fixed it, so what's the problem?
    If they had to bodge it, it's a dumb idea.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    surbiton said:

    kle4 said:

    surbiton said:

    Bojabob said:

    Scots ref: possibly the only time I have ever agreed with Jezza Corbyn. Of course, it's fine. And Scotland should vote Yes.

    Agreed. Repeal 1707. Let Scotland be free.
    It's not about 'let'ing anything, it's about what they think is best. At best(for Unionists) it's on a knife's edge, but it is not about releasing a captive.
    I see absolutely no problem with Scotland being independent in Europe. In fact, England can be independent too , outside the EU.
    Well, which is it? Independent or in the EU?
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    MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    I'd like to see Galloway back in Labour and the Commons. He'd be an ideal Shadow Foreign Secretary for Corbyn's team.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,881
    What a finish!!!
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. Surbiton, you do realise that it's not even a decade ago that we had a Scottish PM and Chancellor? That's hardly the epitome of slavery.

    There is no God given rule that Scotland should be part of an England dominated, 9/10, country. For most of history Scotland was separate.

    If the Scottish people want that, that is what they should have.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,986
    edited March 2017
    Surgeon's first reaction to the rugby https://mobile.twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/840622978803081217
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    BojabobBojabob Posts: 642
    SouthamObserver said:

    Bojabob said:

    Scots ref: possibly the only time I have ever agreed with Jezza Corbyn. Of course, it's fine. And Scotland should vote Yes.

    He has totally undermined the Scottish Labour party. That is unforgiveable. Whatever his private thoughts, a leader has wider obligations.

    Is there a Labour policy Corbyn actually agrees with? On top of today's mess, he's anti-EU, anti-NATO, anti-Trident, anti-Israel.

    Oh, I agree. But then that's all priced in with Corbyn. The guy long, long ago gave leave of all responsibility to his party.
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    BojabobBojabob Posts: 642
    SeanT said:

    Fuck me. All Blacks standard.

    When do we get to play them? The autumn? It was a shame we didn't get to play them last autumn.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    More than half the points Scotland have conceded in the tournament so far have been to England.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    fitalass said:

    DavidL said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Harsh, but..

    https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/840601898646458368

    What's the muppet done now ?
    DavidL, Corbyn has been in Glasgow today, it took him just a few hours to not only undermine, but also totally wreck the SLab fightback across Scotland before the local elections.
    Now you've done it - you've lowered expectations to the point he will be able to claim victory if they have a less than catastrophic result!
    ThreeQuidder said:

    kle4 said:

    ThreeQuidder said:

    kle4 said:

    ThreeQuidder said:

    kle4 said:

    ThreeQuidder said:

    The best thing about this is that it means the dumb bonus points won't have affected the destination of the trophy.

    Don't see a huge problem with them myself - if you win all your games you win the tournament regardless of whether you got any bonus points in your wins and someone else got the maximum (5+5+5+5+2), so it truly is just another means of tie breaking should no one get a grands slam.
    That's only because they bodged the system by adding the "three points for a grand slam" rule.

    If you have to bodge the system like that it's a bad system.
    How is that a bodge?! It's part and parcel of the bonus system.

    I think it was an unnecessary addition, but given it does have that failsafe even if you characterise it as a bodge, then what does it even matter?
    No, the traditional rugby union bonus point system used in competitions all over the world is a bonus point for 4 tries and a bonus point for losing by 7 or less. And that's it.

    They had to add the grand slam bodge because otherwise a GS winner could lose the championship, which is obviously ridiculous.
    Right, so they fixed it, so what's the problem?
    If they had to bodge it, it's a dumb idea.
    Well we'll have to agree to disagree - I have difficulty accepting it is a terrible system when it has no apparent drawbacks, given the 'bodges'.
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    BojabobBojabob Posts: 642
    DavidL said:

    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. L, if Corbyn were Prime Minister, he could do a lot more damage.

    Yes but we all know that is inconceivable. It is the damage that those delusional balloons in Labour are allowing him to do as LOTO that we have to worry about. Self indulgent idiots.
    Delusion balloons? Airheads?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Now time for arsenal vs lincoln....
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,055
    She's got a sense of humour...

    https://twitter.com/nicolasturgeon/status/840623826362871808
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,725
    SeanT said:

    Scotland are a decent team. But they got utterly marmalised. England are - on form - scarily good now.

    Italy pissed them off, clearly.
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,045
    Pumped.
    And not a psyched, up for it, anticipatory pumped.
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