Mrs Stodge and I have visited Vegas many times and have stayed at the Mandalay Bay. The level of security in the hotels, the casinos and on the Strip is considerable and we have never felt under any kind of threat or risk while there.
That being said, once you have a room and a Guest card there is little or no supervision by staff. How this man brought in so many guns without being observed (and CCTV is ubiquitous) will be one of the questions to be answered. Presumably Hotel housekeeping never went into his room or were the guns in the wardrobes ?
The rooms are very large and very comfortable by European standards.
There is always somebody who makes a tw@t of themselves...
I mean it does look like he was a lone wolf, we have no idea on his mental state, terrorist seems a fair description, white privilege sorry you what...
It is an attempt at a joke, it is in very poor taste to say the least.
There is always somebody who makes a tw@t of themselves...
I mean it does look like he was a lone wolf, we have no idea on his mental state, terrorist seems a fair description, white privilege sorry you what...
It is an attempt at a joke, it is in very poor taste to say the least.
"UKIP Leadership Contest Was Rigged, Says Morrissey
Morrissey has declared his belief that the recent UKIP leadership elections were rigged to prevent far-right, anti-Islamic candidate Anne Marie Waters from being elected"
"UKIP Leadership Contest Was Rigged, Says Morrissey
Morrissey has declared his belief that the recent UKIP leadership elections were rigged to prevent far-right, anti-Islamic candidate Anne Marie Waters from being elected"
Well I've no idea whether it was rigged or not, but I can't understand how UKIP could have voted in a pro mass immigration former Lib Dem who no one has ever heard of.
Stevef said: 'And yet Labour enjoys only a 1% lead over the Tories led by May according to the latest Yougov poll, a company which favours Labour -and that is before the Tories change their leader and preside over a better campain to get their own vote out.That lead is lower than that enjoyed by Kinock and Miliband. No opposition which has not been 15 points ahead in the polls between elections has ever gone on to win a general election with a majority. It seems to me that we are being set up once again for a suprising exit poll.' The most recent Yougov poll I am aware of actually gives Labour a 4% lead over the Tories. As for the Opposition needing at least a 15% lead, when has that happened within 4 months of the preceding election. Moreover, it did not happen at all in the last Parliament - yet Labour still went on to make 30 net gains.
"UKIP Leadership Contest Was Rigged, Says Morrissey
Morrissey has declared his belief that the recent UKIP leadership elections were rigged to prevent far-right, anti-Islamic candidate Anne Marie Waters from being elected"
Well I've no idea whether it was rigged or not, but I can't understand how UKIP could have voted in a pro mass immigration former Lib Dem who no one has ever heard of.
Can anyone explain it to me?
You may not know anything about him but UKIP members will have.
Check out Guido Fawkes summary of him.
Note that celebrity is not necessarily the attribute sought in selecting a political leader.
Looking at the chart above, the similarity in the pattern between the last three elections and 83, 97, 92 is striking. Perhaps we should be betting on a Labour landslide next time?
Mrs Stodge and I have visited Vegas many times and have stayed at the Mandalay Bay. The level of security in the hotels, the casinos and on the Strip is considerable and we have never felt under any kind of threat or risk while there.
That being said, once you have a room and a Guest card there is little or no supervision by staff. How this man brought in so many guns without being observed (and CCTV is ubiquitous) will be one of the questions to be answered. Presumably Hotel housekeeping never went into his room or were the guns in the wardrobes ?
The rooms are very large and very comfortable by European standards.
If carrying automatic weapons is legal in Nevada then the hotel can do nothing to stop people bringing them into the hotel.
Given that the right to bear arms is in the US constitution, passing an amendment to change that would be a slow process which requires over 34 States to agree amongst other things. It may create plenty of work for lawyers.
Yes, it needs either a constitutional amendment of a very liberal Supreme Court willing to draw the line at certain types of weapons. Neither look like happening any time soon.
This is the sort of thing that civilians are allowed to play with in Nevada: .300 Gatling gun that sends 50 rounds a second down range. Oh, and Kari Byron, just because https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QC8jnSaCqxY
The problem with a liberal Court restricting the right is two-fold. Firstly, it'll take decades to get that kind of Court; and secondly, its opinion could always be reversed later under a different reinterpretation. The only real answer is a constitutional amendment. Even then, just repealing the 2nd amendment would not necessarily make a big practical difference (though it'd make a huge statement): many states contain their own version of the 2nd amendment within their own constitutions, which would be unaffected unless the federal Amendment explicitly gave Congress power to regulate gun use.
A good article David. The issue is that the American psyche has always had guns at its core, in a way that just isn’t there in say the UK. The second amendment was put there for a good reason, that the government should be scared of the people rather than vice versa.
This is something that people just don’t understand unless they’ve spend time there (and NY and LA don’t count!). It’s also a bloody big place, and in rural areas you’ll be needing a way to deal with a bear or two occasionally. People are very attached to the concept of defending themselves and their families from intruders, whether of the ursine or human variety. They don’t expect nor really want the state to defend their property.
It's actually a very similar phenomenon to the UK: neither country trusts our government.
In the UK that's why we resist the arming of police so much; in the US they are happy with the police being armed so long as they are as well.
It's only the poor sods in Europe who have an armed government and a disarmed population.
Looking at the chart above, the similarity in the pattern between the last three elections and 83, 97, 92 is striking. Perhaps we should be betting on a Labour landslide next time?
If they find a second Tony Blair, ditch all the dross, make a really serious effort to be economically credible, and stop bashing business, then yes, certainly.
"UKIP Leadership Contest Was Rigged, Says Morrissey
Morrissey has declared his belief that the recent UKIP leadership elections were rigged to prevent far-right, anti-Islamic candidate Anne Marie Waters from being elected"
Well I've no idea whether it was rigged or not, but I can't understand how UKIP could have voted in a pro mass immigration former Lib Dem who no one has ever heard of.
Can anyone explain it to me?
He was the first name on the ballot and had the first page in the election information booklet.
Looking at the chart above, the similarity in the pattern between the last three elections and 83, 97, 92 is striking. Perhaps we should be betting on a Labour landslide next time?
If they find a second Tony Blair, ditch all the dross, make a really serious effort to be economically credible, and stop bashing business, then yes, certainly.
Mrs Stodge and I have visited Vegas many times and have stayed at the Mandalay Bay. The level of security in the hotels, the casinos and on the Strip is considerable and we have never felt under any kind of threat or risk while there.
That being said, once you have a room and a Guest card there is little or no supervision by staff. How this man brought in so many guns without being observed (and CCTV is ubiquitous) will be one of the questions to be answered. Presumably Hotel housekeeping never went into his room or were the guns in the wardrobes ?
The rooms are very large and very comfortable by European standards.
If carrying automatic weapons is legal in Nevada then the hotel can do nothing to stop people bringing them into the hotel.
Looking at the chart above, the similarity in the pattern between the last three elections and 83, 97, 92 is striking. Perhaps we should be betting on a Labour landslide next time?
If they find a second Tony Blair, ditch all the dross, make a really serious effort to be economically credible, and stop bashing business, then yes, certainly.
Looking at the chart above, the similarity in the pattern between the last three elections and 83, 97, 92 is striking. Perhaps we should be betting on a Labour landslide next time?
If they find a second Tony Blair, ditch all the dross, make a really serious effort to be economically credible, and stop bashing business, then yes, certainly.
"UKIP Leadership Contest Was Rigged, Says Morrissey
Morrissey has declared his belief that the recent UKIP leadership elections were rigged to prevent far-right, anti-Islamic candidate Anne Marie Waters from being elected"
Well I've no idea whether it was rigged or not, but I can't understand how UKIP could have voted in a pro mass immigration former Lib Dem who no one has ever heard of.
Yes, it needs either a constitutional amendment of a very liberal Supreme Court willing to draw the line at certain types of weapons. Neither look like happening any time soon.
The problem with a liberal Court restricting the right is two-fold. Firstly, it'll take decades to get that kind of Court; and secondly, its opinion could always be reversed later under a different reinterpretation. The only real answer is a constitutional amendment. Even then, just repealing the 2nd amendment would not necessarily make a big practical difference (though it'd make a huge statement): many states contain their own version of the 2nd amendment within their own constitutions, which would be unaffected unless the federal Amendment explicitly gave Congress power to regulate gun use.
A good article David. The issue is that the American psyche has always had guns at its core, in a way that just isn’t there in say the UK. The second amendment was put there for a good reason, that the government should be scared of the people rather than vice versa.
This is something that people just don’t understand unless they’ve spend time there (and NY and LA don’t count!). It’s also a bloody big place, and in rural areas you’ll be needing a way to deal with a bear or two occasionally. People are very attached to the concept of defending themselves and their families from intruders, whether of the ursine or human variety. They don’t expect nor really want the state to defend their property.
The problem of course is there is a huge difference between a rifle for hunting / protection against the wild life and a belt fed or massive magazine fully auto assault rifle. Having spent a lot of time in rural America, I can get the first but legally being able to own 10 fully auto assault rifles is just bonkers and would never have been envisioned by the founding fathers.
Indeed so. The technology of weaponry has advanced somewhat since the Bill of Rights was passed in 1788.
How does canvassing work in the US?
Quite frankly, in some areas I'd be scared to do it unannounced, in case I got shot. Particularly if I was black.
Outside the major cities, by telephone!!
You can get shot at canvassing in Westmorland and Lonsdale - three did !
Ruth Davidson might be dullishly centrist, but she's a passionate Unionist, pro-defence and makes me laugh.
If it was a choice between her and Corbyn, I'd wade through blood for her.
I would consider voting for her. If it was her vs. Andy Burnham I probably would.
I think Andy Burnham is another Osborne. He assumed that Labour were going to be thrashed with them not only not forming the present government but with no chance of forming the next either. So he went off to do something more useful. I am sure he is full of regret about not being in the Commons now with Labour looking favourites next time out. How does he get back in time?
Well as you point out, it's only nonsense to trumpet the 5.8% if you do not also mention that the Labour vote went up by even more, so it is nonsense in itself - by the same measure it is not nonsense, for instance, to note the Tories were the most popular single party on the day (whether that remains true is highly questionable, and of little assistance moving forward however).
Looking at the chart above, the similarity in the pattern between the last three elections and 83, 97, 92 is striking. Perhaps we should be betting on a Labour landslide next time?
Possibly 12 years into office and with, even with a successful Brexit, plenty of disruption and division among the Tory base? Cannot be ruled out.
Mrs Stodge and I have visited Vegas many times and have stayed at the Mandalay Bay. The level of security in the hotels, the casinos and on the Strip is considerable and we have never felt under any kind of threat or risk while there.
That being said, once you have a room and a Guest card there is little or no supervision by staff. How this man brought in so many guns without being observed (and CCTV is ubiquitous) will be one of the questions to be answered. Presumably Hotel housekeeping never went into his room or were the guns in the wardrobes ?
The rooms are very large and very comfortable by European standards.
If carrying automatic weapons is legal in Nevada then the hotel can do nothing to stop people bringing them into the hotel.
Surely they can have house rules?!
You'd hope so, but I would not be surprised if someone's personal liberty to carry was determined to trump hotel rules in such things, or at least that enough people caused a stink about it to permit it.
There is always somebody who makes a tw@t of themselves...
I mean it does look like he was a lone wolf, we have no idea on his mental state, terrorist seems a fair description, white privilege sorry you what...
It is an attempt at a joke, it is in very poor taste to say the least.
Looking at the chart above, the similarity in the pattern between the last three elections and 83, 97, 92 is striking. Perhaps we should be betting on a Labour landslide next time?
If they find a second Tony Blair, ditch all the dross, make a really serious effort to be economically credible, and stop bashing business, then yes, certainly.
The Economist used such an argument a few years ago with gun ownership. They argued that weapons should be restricted to what was available at the time. Pikes, swords and matchlocks iirc was the suggestion.
That's more 1620 than 1789 isn't it?
Quite right. We don't need the lethal new fanglery of flintlocks.
It's amendment that had a place and purpose back then but has none now. Laughable something that old is used to guarantee rights now.
They will never modernize or change it.
Entirely their right, of course, although I must say I've never quite understood why americans treat the amendments so religiously (I mean, I get it in the context of their foundation, and mythologising of their foundation, but even so), particularly when it comes to literal readings of what people hundreds of years ago thought. It's a marvelous document in many ways, the drafters seem to have overall done a very good job, but there cannot be many areas of society where the thought of revising or reinterpreting things anew after centuries causes such instant apoplexy.
There is always somebody who makes a tw@t of themselves...
I mean it does look like he was a lone wolf, we have no idea on his mental state, terrorist seems a fair description, white privilege sorry you what...
It is an attempt at a joke, it is in very poor taste to say the least.
Ruth Davidson might be dullishly centrist, but she's a passionate Unionist, pro-defence and makes me laugh.
If it was a choice between her and Corbyn, I'd wade through blood for her.
I would consider voting for her. If it was her vs. Andy Burnham I probably would.
I think Andy Burnham is another Osborne. He assumed that Labour were going to be thrashed with them not only not forming the present government but with no chance of forming the next either. So he went off to do something more useful. I am sure he is full of regret about not being in the Commons now with Labour looking favourites next time out. How does he get back in time?
Stevef said: 'And yet Labour enjoys only a 1% lead over the Tories led by May according to the latest Yougov poll, a company which favours Labour -and that is before the Tories change their leader and preside over a better campain to get their own vote out.That lead is lower than that enjoyed by Kinock and Miliband. No opposition which has not been 15 points ahead in the polls between elections has ever gone on to win a general election with a majority. It seems to me that we are being set up once again for a suprising exit poll.' The most recent Yougov poll I am aware of actually gives Labour a 4% lead over the Tories. As for the Opposition needing at least a 15% lead, when has that happened within 4 months of the preceding election. Moreover, it did not happen at all in the last Parliament - yet Labour still went on to make 30 net gains.
The most recent Yougov poll was yesterday and gave Labour a mere 1% lead. Labour had bigger leads over the Tories after losing the 1979 election and after losing in 1992. Winning 30 seats after losing in 2015 with its third ever worst defeat since 1918 is no big deal. Labour would need to win twice that number of seats just to have a majority of one next time. As the Russian proverb goes: dont cook your rabbit before youve caught it. Corbyn remains in my view the worst Labour leader of all time.
Mrs Stodge and I have visited Vegas many times and have stayed at the Mandalay Bay. The level of security in the hotels, the casinos and on the Strip is considerable and we have never felt under any kind of threat or risk while there.
That being said, once you have a room and a Guest card there is little or no supervision by staff. How this man brought in so many guns without being observed (and CCTV is ubiquitous) will be one of the questions to be answered. Presumably Hotel housekeeping never went into his room or were the guns in the wardrobes ?
The rooms are very large and very comfortable by European standards.
If carrying automatic weapons is legal in Nevada then the hotel can do nothing to stop people bringing them into the hotel.
Couple of observations:
1) Looking at the pictures of the hotel, he shot through the windows to start. OK he could just have pointed the weapon at the windows (well of course that's what he did). He then will have pointed downwards at the crowd. Which all seems fairly straightforward. But for "not an avid gun guy" that is still quite a lot of technique to need. If he was untrained in such weaponry, he would have received a huge shock when he pulled the trigger. They may look docile in the hands of Matt Damon but such a weapon has a huge kick and is by no means easy to control. To force it out of the window and then pointing downwards and keep on firing just isn't so simple. Now of course he had time to refine the process (you can hear when he changes magazines) but a gun like that is more likely to control you if you're new to it. Sadly, he had enough time to make it work for him.
2) As mentioned this morning, for a country with the sensible mantra of "run, hide, fight", it is a shame that you can hear several calls of "get down". Running is always the better option, especially of course since the advent of marauding attacks. Everyone running in every direction might not have reduced significantly the death toll, but it may well have reduced it.
3) I appreciate the fog of war mitigates against any "sensible, hindsight-driven" action.
4) So what of those conclusions? Not sure at all. He either must have had training and actually been an avid gun guy after all, or he just learned by doing in the hotel room (of course most likely), or....well in my wilder speculative moments, I would have said it might have been someone else doing the shooting.
Stevef said: 'And yet Labour enjoys only a 1% lead over the Tories led by May according to the latest Yougov poll, a company which favours Labour -and that is before the Tories change their leader and preside over a better campain to get their own vote out.That lead is lower than that enjoyed by Kinock and Miliband. No opposition which has not been 15 points ahead in the polls between elections has ever gone on to win a general election with a majority. It seems to me that we are being set up once again for a suprising exit poll.' The most recent Yougov poll I am aware of actually gives Labour a 4% lead over the Tories. As for the Opposition needing at least a 15% lead, when has that happened within 4 months of the preceding election. Moreover, it did not happen at all in the last Parliament - yet Labour still went on to make 30 net gains.
The most recent Yougov poll was yesterday and gave Labour a mere 1% lead. Labour had bigger leads over the Tories after losing the 1979 election and after losing in 1992. Winning 30 seats after losing in 2015 with its third ever worst defeat since 1918 is no big deal. Labour would need to win twice that number of seats just to have a majority of one next time. As the Russian proverb goes: dont cook your rabbit before youve caught it. Corbyn remains in my view the worst Labour leader of all time.
The most recent YouGov poll gave Labour a 4% lead.
There is always somebody who makes a tw@t of themselves...
I mean it does look like he was a lone wolf, we have no idea on his mental state, terrorist seems a fair description, white privilege sorry you what...
It is an attempt at a joke, it is in very poor taste to say the least.
Have to join the praise for Mr Herdson's past piece on gun reform. I thought it particularly strong on the point that even though there is no prospect of repealing the second amendment, if someone truly believes it is the problem then someone should argue for its repeal, that a flag must be raised on the matter before any change in the culture can take place.
There is of course no prospect of such a proposal presently gaining Congressional approval, never mind that of the states. Why then do it? Because as with the anti-slavery and Civil Rights movements, a change in the political culture in terms of what is acceptable is necessary before reform can take place and that change has to be led; the flag must be raised.
Two questions: (1) why is David Letterman sporting a beard that makes him look like an elderly Tom Hanks in Castaway, and, (2) what on earth does the shooting have to do with "White privilege"?
Two questions: (1) why is David Letterman sporting a beard that makes him look like an elderly Tom Hanks in Castaway, and, (2) what on earth does the shooting have to do with "White privilege"?
Repeated again....he really does look like an elderly Tom Hanks these days, but that tweet was fake.
Mrs Stodge and I have visited Vegas many times and have stayed at the Mandalay Bay. The level of security in the hotels, the casinos and on the Strip is considerable and we have never felt under any kind of threat or risk while there.
That being said, once you have a room and a Guest card there is little or no supervision by staff. How this man brought in so many guns without being observed (and CCTV is ubiquitous) will be one of the questions to be answered. Presumably Hotel housekeeping never went into his room or were the guns in the wardrobes ?
The rooms are very large and very comfortable by European standards.
If carrying automatic weapons is legal in Nevada then the hotel can do nothing to stop people bringing them into the hotel.
Surely they can have house rules?!
Yes they can. In general owners of private property that allow access to the public can set whatever restrictions they like, subject to not discriminating against protected characteristics. There have been a few state legislative initiatives to restrict private property owners from banning firearms but they've not tended to go very far as those that support the right to bear arms tend not to like the state interfering in the rights of private property owners either. What there has been in recent years is a number of legislative initiatives to stop publicly-owned institutions like state colleges from restricting firearms.
Mrs Stodge and I have visited Vegas many times and have stayed at the Mandalay Bay. The level of security in the hotels, the casinos and on the Strip is considerable and we have never felt under any kind of threat or risk while there.
That being said, once you have a room and a Guest card there is little or no supervision by staff. How this man brought in so many guns without being observed (and CCTV is ubiquitous) will be one of the questions to be answered. Presumably Hotel housekeeping never went into his room or were the guns in the wardrobes ?
My experience in staying at a Vegas resort hotel (the Bellagio in our case) is that there is no searching or x-raying of bags, and if you put out the "do not disturb" sign, housekeeping won't come in. So just like any other hotel in other words.
... and mythologising of their foundation, but even so), particularly when it comes to literal readings of what people hundreds of years ago thought.
You are talking about a nation in which large numbers of the populace apply literal meanings to what people in the Middle East wrote thousands of years ago and try to apply that to modern life.
Mrs Stodge and I have visited Vegas many times and have stayed at the Mandalay Bay. The level of security in the hotels, the casinos and on the Strip is considerable and we have never felt under any kind of threat or risk while there.
That being said, once you have a room and a Guest card there is little or no supervision by staff. How this man brought in so many guns without being observed (and CCTV is ubiquitous) will be one of the questions to be answered. Presumably Hotel housekeeping never went into his room or were the guns in the wardrobes ?
The rooms are very large and very comfortable by European standards.
If carrying automatic weapons is legal in Nevada then the hotel can do nothing to stop people bringing them into the hotel.
Couple of observations:
1) Looking at the pictures of the hotel, he shot through the windows to start. OK he could just have pointed the weapon at the windows (well of course that's what he did). He then will have pointed downwards at the crowd. Which all seems fairly straightforward. But for "not an avid gun guy" that is still quite a lot of technique to need. If he was untrained in such weaponry, he would have received a huge shock when he pulled the trigger. They may look docile in the hands of Matt Damon but such a weapon has a huge kick and is by no means easy to control. To force it out of the window and then pointing downwards and keep on firing just isn't so simple. Now of course he had time to refine the process (you can hear when he changes magazines) but a gun like that is more likely to control you if you're new to it. Sadly, he had enough time to make it work for him.
2) As mentioned this morning, for a country with the sensible mantra of "run, hide, fight", it is a shame that you can hear several calls of "get down". Running is always the better option, especially of course since the advent of marauding attacks. Everyone running in every direction might not have reduced significantly the death toll, but it may well have reduced it.
3) I appreciate the fog of war mitigates against any "sensible, hindsight-driven" action.
4) So what of those conclusions? Not sure at all. He either must have had training and actually been an avid gun guy after all, or he just learned by doing in the hotel room (of course most likely), or....well in my wilder speculative moments, I would have said it might have been someone else doing the shooting.
There are heavily advertised shooting ranges in LV.. He was there 4 days. Getting training perhaps?
... and mythologising of their foundation, but even so), particularly when it comes to literal readings of what people hundreds of years ago thought.
You are talking about a nation in which large numbers of the populace apply literal meanings to what people in the Middle East wrote thousands of years ago and try to apply that to modern life.
It's not unexpected or out of national character - it's just strange given how much society in general is all about change and updating things. Even most conservatives in america will have changed a great deal from 50 years ago, or 100.
Ruth Davidson might be dullishly centrist, but she's a passionate Unionist, pro-defence and makes me laugh.
If it was a choice between her and Corbyn, I'd wade through blood for her.
I would consider voting for her. If it was her vs. Andy Burnham I probably would.
I think Andy Burnham is another Osborne. He assumed that Labour were going to be thrashed with them not only not forming the present government but with no chance of forming the next either. So he went off to do something more useful. I am sure he is full of regret about not being in the Commons now with Labour looking favourites next time out. How does he get back in time?
To paraphrase Churchill after some tried to portray Dunkirk as a victory
"We must be very careful not to assign to this deliverance the attributes of a victory. General election are not won by losing your majority."
They aren't won by not coming first either.
Corbyn may have a youthful army of supporters. But having recently come out in favour of staying with FPTP, he should tell them that their youthful enthusiasm counts for nothing in 450-500 of the seats (75%). They might as well spoil their ballot papers.
Mrs Stodge and I have visited y European standards.
If carrying automatic weapons is legal in Nevada then the hotel can do nothing to stop people bringing them into the hotel.
Couple of observations:
1) Looking at the pictures of the hotel, he shot through the windows to start. OK he could just have pointed the weapon at the windows (well of course that's what he did). He then will have pointed downwards at the crowd. Which all seems fairly straightforward. But for "not an avid gun guy" that is still quite a lot of technique to need. If he was untrained in such weaponry, he would have received a huge shock when he pulled the trigger. They may look docile in the hands of Matt Damon but such a weapon has a huge kick and is by no means easy to control. To force it out of the window and then pointing downwards and keep on firing just isn't so simple. Now of course he had time to refine the process (you can hear when he changes magazines) but a gun like that is more likely to control you if you're new to it. Sadly, he had enough time to make it work for him.
2) As mentioned this morning, for a country with the sensible mantra of "run, hide, fight", it is a shame that you can hear several calls of "get down". Running is always the better option, especially of course since the advent of marauding attacks. Everyone running in every direction might not have reduced significantly the death toll, but it may well have reduced it.
3) I appreciate the fog of war mitigates against any "sensible, hindsight-driven" action.
4) So what of those conclusions? Not sure at all. He either must have had training and actually been an avid gun guy after all, or he just learned by doing in the hotel room (of course most likely), or....well in my wilder speculative moments, I would have said it might have been someone else doing the shooting.
There are heavily advertised shooting ranges in LV.. He was there 4 days. Getting training perhaps?
Ah well yes in that case if he went to the range while he was prepping, it makes much more sense. Interesting, though, isn't it - I suppose there are many customers new and existing of those ranges and I wonder if any of the due diligence checks are around strangers coming in for a blatt away...
Mrs Stodge and I have visited Vegas many times and have stayed at the Mandalay Bay. The level of security in the hotels, the casinos and on the Strip is considerable and we have never felt under any kind of threat or risk while there.
That being said, once you have a room and a Guest card there is little or no supervision by staff. How this man brought in so many guns without being observed (and CCTV is ubiquitous) will be one of the questions to be answered. Presumably Hotel housekeeping never went into his room or were the guns in the wardrobes ?
The rooms are very large and very comfortable by European standards.
If carrying automatic weapons is legal in Nevada then the hotel can do nothing to stop people bringing them into the hotel.
Yes they can. Nevada has a specific law that any establishment can ban weapons as long as they have signage to that effect.
Ruth Davidson might be dullishly centrist, but she's a passionate Unionist, pro-defence and makes me laugh.
If it was a choice between her and Corbyn, I'd wade through blood for her.
I would consider voting for her. If it was her vs. Andy Burnham I probably would.
I think Andy Burnham is another Osborne. He assumed that Labour were going to be thrashed with them not only not forming the present government but with no chance of forming the next either. So he went off to do something more useful. I am sure he is full of regret about not being in the Commons now with Labour looking favourites next time out. How does he get back in time?
To paraphrase Churchill after some tried to portray Dunkirk as a victory
"We must be very careful not to assign to this deliverance the attributes of a victory. General election are not won by losing your majority."
They aren't won by not coming first either.
Corbyn may have a youthful army of supporters. But having recently come out in favour of staying with FPTP, he should tell them that their youthful enthusiasm counts for nothing in 450-500 of the seats (75%). They might as well spoil their ballot papers.
Yep I'm sure he will put out a statement before too long telling them exactly that.
"UKIP Leadership Contest Was Rigged, Says Morrissey
Morrissey has declared his belief that the recent UKIP leadership elections were rigged to prevent far-right, anti-Islamic candidate Anne Marie Waters from being elected"
Well I've no idea whether it was rigged or not, but I can't understand how UKIP could have voted in a pro mass immigration former Lib Dem who no one has ever heard of.
Can anyone explain it to me?
From what I understand is that to vote you had to be a member for at least a year. All recently joined members who were hoping to vote for AMW were excluded.
Take these with a pinch of salt. I got Renaissance right for her Florence speech but managed to pick three losers when Corbyn said almost everything else.
Run on the pound, at evens. Magic money tree at 2.75. Free market at 3.
The Conservatives appear to have woken up to the economy as an actual battleground (turns out saying **** all during the whole election campaign was a mistake). May herself has already commented on this, at her speech a week or two ago. All three are fairly stock phrases.
Mrs Stodge and I have visited y European standards.
If carrying automatic weapons is legal in Nevada then the hotel can do nothing to stop people bringing them into the hotel.
Couple of observations:
1) Looking at the pictures of the hotel, he shot through the windows to start. OK he could just have pointed the weapon at the windows (well of course that's what he did). He then will have pointed downwards at the crowd. Which all seems fairly straightforward. But for "not an avid gun guy" that is still quite a lot of technique to need. If he was untrained in such weaponry, he would have received a huge shock when he pulled the trigger. They may look docile in the hands of Matt Damon but such a weapon has a huge kick and is by no means easy to control. To force it out of the window and then pointing downwards and keep on firing just isn't so simple. Now of course he had time to refine the process (you can hear when he changes magazines) but a gun like that is more likely to control you if you're new to it. Sadly, he had enough time to make it work for him.
2) As mentioned this morning, for a country with the sensible mantra of "run, hide, fight", it is a shame that you can hear several calls of "get down". Running is always the better option, especially of course since the advent of marauding attacks. Everyone running in every direction might not have reduced significantly the death toll, but it may well have reduced it.
3) I appreciate the fog of war mitigates against any "sensible, hindsight-driven" action.
4) So what of those conclusions? Not sure at all. He either must have had training and actually been an avid gun guy after all, or he just learned by doing in the hotel room (of course most likely), or....well in my wilder speculative moments, I would have said it might have been someone else doing the shooting.
There are heavily advertised shooting ranges in LV.. He was there 4 days. Getting training perhaps?
Ah well yes in that case if he went to the range while he was prepping, it makes much more sense. Interesting, though, isn't it - I suppose there are many customers new and existing of those ranges and I wonder if any of the due diligence checks are around strangers coming in for a blatt away...
From the advertising I think the ranges are targeting, as it were, frivolous stag party type punters just wanting to blatt. I doubt they would have much of a market if they insisted on any form of checks on a predominantly out of state/foreign clientele.
Mrs Stodge and I have visited y European standards.
If cathe hotel.
Couple of observations:
1) Looking at the pictures of the hotel, he shot through the windows to start. OK he could just have pointed the weapon at the windows (well of course that's what he did). He then will have pointed downwards at the crowd. Which all seems fairly straightforward. But for "not an avid gun guy" that is still quite a lot of technique to need. If he was untrained in such weaponry, he would have received a huge shock when he pulled the trigger. They may look docile in the hands of Matt Damon but such a weapon has a huge kick and is by no means easy to control. To force it out of the window and then pointing downwards and keep on firing just isn't so simple. Now of course he had time to refine the process (you can hear when he changes magazines) but a gun like that is more likely to control you if you're new to it. Sadly, he had enough time to make it work for him.
2) As mentioned this morning, for a country with the sensible mantra of "run, hide, fight", it is a shame that you can hear several calls of "get down". Running is always the better option, especially of course since the advent of marauding attacks. Everyone running in every direction might not have reduced significantly the death toll, but it may well have reduced it.
3) I appreciate the fog of war mitigates against any "sensible, hindsight-driven" action.
4) So what of those conclusions? Not sure at all. He either must have had training and actually been an avid gun guy after all, or he just learned by doing in the hotel room (of course most likely), or....well in my wilder speculative moments, I would have said it might have been someone else doing the shooting.
There are heavily advertised shooting ranges in LV.. He was there 4 days. Getting training perhaps?
Ah well yes in that case if he went to the range while he was prepping, it makes much more sense. Interesting, though, isn't it - I suppose there are many customers new and existing of those ranges and I wonder if any of the due diligence checks are around strangers coming in for a blatt away...
From the advertising I think the ranges are targeting, as it were, frivolous stag party type punters just wanting to blatt. I doubt they would have much of a market if they insisted on any form of checks on a predominantly out of state/foreign clientele.
"UKIP Leadership Contest Was Rigged, Says Morrissey
Morrissey has declared his belief that the recent UKIP leadership elections were rigged to prevent far-right, anti-Islamic candidate Anne Marie Waters from being elected"
Well I've no idea whether it was rigged or not, but I can't understand how UKIP could have voted in a pro mass immigration former Lib Dem who no one has ever heard of.
Can anyone explain it to me?
From what I understand is that to vote you had to be a member for at least a year. All recently joined members who were hoping to vote for AMW were excluded.
I can't imagine any UKIP supporters from any time would vote for someone who is pro-immigration. It just seems a bit odd to me.
"UKIP Leadership Contest Was Rigged, Says Morrissey
Morrissey has declared his belief that the recent UKIP leadership elections were rigged to prevent far-right, anti-Islamic candidate Anne Marie Waters from being elected"
Well I've no idea whether it was rigged or not, but I can't understand how UKIP could have voted in a pro mass immigration former Lib Dem who no one has ever heard of.
Can anyone explain it to me?
From what I understand is that to vote you had to be a member for at least a year. All recently joined members who were hoping to vote for AMW were excluded.
I can't imagine any UKIP supporters from any time would vote for someone who is pro-immigration. It just seems a bit odd to me.
How dare you categorise Kippers as being anti-foreigner.
SteveF said: 'In 1964 Labour was expected to get a landslide. It won a majority of 4.' Actually that is wrong. Labour had a clear lead in the polls throughout the Spring and early Summer , but in mid-August the Tories took the lead in some polls. By the time Parliament was dissolved in mid-September Douglas -Home and the Tories were favourites to win re-election and it was only in the last ten days of the campaign that Labour regained a narrow lead.
"UKIP Leadership Contest Was Rigged, Says Morrissey
Morrissey has declared his belief that the recent UKIP leadership elections were rigged to prevent far-right, anti-Islamic candidate Anne Marie Waters from being elected"
Well I've no idea whether it was rigged or not, but I can't understand how UKIP could have voted in a pro mass immigration former Lib Dem who no one has ever heard of.
Can anyone explain it to me?
From what I understand is that to vote you had to be a member for at least a year. All recently joined members who were hoping to vote for AMW were excluded.
I can't imagine any UKIP supporters from any time would vote for someone who is pro-immigration. It just seems a bit odd to me.
I would have but there was no one around like that when I was a member.
Because of the terrible news from Las Vegas this is passing almost without comment - but the UK Govt/ CAA do appear to have had their act together and were well prepared for the Monarch collapse:
Is it me, or is that wording on the wall behind speakers at the Tory conference wonky?
Don't know about the lettering, but the sentiment is hilarious. One thing that is not going on, is any 'building'.
Unless you count weird shaped skyscrapers in the City.
There's more to the country than the City. There's construction sites with homes, shops and offices going up all around where I live.
Aye, Greater Manchester is absolutely awash with building. Skyscapers, yes (the 5th largest syscraper in the country (along with a smallert sibling) is currently going up just to the south of the conference centre), but homes, big sheds, offices too.. Of course, it maybe 2007 all over again. But I've never seen such confidence in the city.
Because of the terrible news from Las Vegas this is passing almost without comment - but the UK Govt/ CAA do appear to have had their act together and were well prepared for the Monarch collapse:
twitter.com/AlexInAir/status/914886886061232128
Of course to what extent they do follow up 110,000 insurance policies/credit card companies to recover the funds is anyone's guess......
I heard from some friends earlier this morning who were booked on a Monarch flight today. It seems like they were informed before they headed to the airport and have been booked on a flight home, albeit with a significant delay to a airport 100s of miles away (and then bused the rest of the way).
In the grand scheme of things it seems a decent response, but then it seems those who needed to know were well aware Monarch we going tits up well in advance so had the chance to do some proper planning.
Unlike Libya, no need for the SAS to be sent in....
"UKIP Leadership Contest Was Rigged, Says Morrissey
Morrissey has declared his belief that the recent UKIP leadership elections were rigged to prevent far-right, anti-Islamic candidate Anne Marie Waters from being elected"
Well I've no idea whether it was rigged or not, but I can't understand how UKIP could have voted in a pro mass immigration former Lib Dem who no one has ever heard of.
Can anyone explain it to me?
From what I understand is that to vote you had to be a member for at least a year. All recently joined members who were hoping to vote for AMW were excluded.
I can't imagine any UKIP supporters from any time would vote for someone who is pro-immigration. It just seems a bit odd to me.
If you want to develop a conspiracy theory, note that Boulton's wife is Russian, as indeed Aaron Banks' is too. Boulton was one of our spooks of course. There is an interesting comnnection to the LDs via Mike Hancock, who assisted Mrs Banks stay in the UK. Curious and curioser.
Utter bollocks. The rise of Ryanair, easy jet, wizz is reason.
Crap route choices would be an equally valid reason. Who exactly wants to fly Manchester to Stockholm....
Volvo rep at the Tory conference?
poster of the year material
Main reason was loss of their Egyptian, Turkish and North Africa routes following the collapse of tourism due to terrorist attacks
Doesn't anybody think that paying more for fuel etc due to the £ being weaker had a deleterious effect on the economic prospects of the airline, which was all the original post claimed? Seems a statement of the bleeding obvious (rather than "utter bollocks"), doesn't it?
It was peanuts compared to the other problems they had. Which is why they have collapsed and the other British based airlines have not. Or perhaps you think that Brexit and the drop in the value of the pound is also why Berlin Airways collapsed a few months ago? Your simplistic explanations reflect your own bias rather than the real world.
“We take nearly all of our revenue in pounds and a lot of our costs go out in dollars and euros,” explained Mr Swaffield.
“We pay for aircraft leases and fuel in dollars and things like navigation and ground handling in euros. So we get no revenue benefit from a decline in the pound but we get a big cost increase.”
by all means say peanuts if you like.
The demise of one struggling airline makes no difference whatsoever to whether Brexit was a good idea or not in any case.
Quite, My 'simplistic explanation" consisted of 'Monarch hurt by Brexit fall in £'. It's simple and factually correct, but a Brexiteer just can't seem to accept simple facts where they are inconvenient to their views.
Since you still don't seem to understand it here are some graphs for you:
"The six graphs that explain why Monarch went under "
Is it me, or is that wording on the wall behind speakers at the Tory conference wonky?
Don't know about the lettering, but the sentiment is hilarious. One thing that is not going on, is any 'building'.
Unless you count weird shaped skyscrapers in the City.
You can ruin a country; you could try, if you are optimistic, to govern a country; you might, in extremis, save a country. But you don't build a country.
Have to join the praise for Mr Herdson's past piece on gun reform. I thought it particularly strong on the point that even though there is no prospect of repealing the second amendment, if someone truly believes it is the problem then someone should argue for its repeal, that a flag must be raised on the matter before any change in the culture can take place.
There is of course no prospect of such a proposal presently gaining Congressional approval, never mind that of the states. Why then do it? Because as with the anti-slavery and Civil Rights movements, a change in the political culture in terms of what is acceptable is necessary before reform can take place and that change has to be led; the flag must be raised.
Except that dozens of constitutional amendments are raised every year in Congress, and quietly squashed... This is, and will continue to be, a massive political issue - but it's one on which the US is sharply divided, and minds are unlikely to be changed by this awful event. If a massacre of young school kids won't do it, why should this ?
"UKIP Leadership Contest Was Rigged, Says Morrissey
Morrissey has declared his belief that the recent UKIP leadership elections were rigged to prevent far-right, anti-Islamic candidate Anne Marie Waters from being elected"
Well I've no idea whether it was rigged or not, but I can't understand how UKIP could have voted in a pro mass immigration former Lib Dem who no one has ever heard of.
Can anyone explain it to me?
From what I understand is that to vote you had to be a member for at least a year. All recently joined members who were hoping to vote for AMW were excluded.
I can't imagine any UKIP supporters from any time would vote for someone who is pro-immigration. It just seems a bit odd to me.
If you want to develop a conspiracy theory, note that Boulton's wife is Russian, as indeed Aaron Banks' is too. Boulton was one of our spooks of course. There is an interesting comnnection to the LDs via Mike Hancock, who assisted Mrs Banks stay in the UK. Curious and curioser.
Mrs Stodge and I have visited Vegas many times and have stayed at the Mandalay Bay. The level of security in the hotels, the casinos and on the Strip is considerable and we have never felt under any kind of threat or risk while there.
That being said, once you have a room and a Guest card there is little or no supervision by staff. How this man brought in so many guns without being observed (and CCTV is ubiquitous) will be one of the questions to be answered. Presumably Hotel housekeeping never went into his room or were the guns in the wardrobes ?
The rooms are very large and very comfortable by European standards.
If carrying automatic weapons is legal in Nevada then the hotel can do nothing to stop people bringing them into the hotel.
Yes they can. Nevada has a specific law that any establishment can ban weapons as long as they have signage to that effect.
Aren't there some fairly obvious difficulties in imposing such a policy?
The brother of the Las Vegas attacker has told US media that their father had for a time been on the infamous FBI Most Wanted List.
Patrick Benjamin Paddock had been "diagnosed as psychopathic, has carried firearms in commission of bank robberies" and "reportedly has suicidal tendencies and should be considered armed and very dangerous," according to the FBI bulletin from 1969.
The brother of the Las Vegas attacker has told US media that their father had for a time been on the infamous FBI Most Wanted List.
Patrick Benjamin Paddock had been "diagnosed as psychopathic, has carried firearms in commission of bank robberies" and "reportedly has suicidal tendencies and should be considered armed and very dangerous," according to the FBI bulletin from 1969.
If it was me I would have left the press to learn that for themselves. But perhaps he thought they would have got there soon enough anyway.
Is it me, or is that wording on the wall behind speakers at the Tory conference wonky?
Don't know about the lettering, but the sentiment is hilarious. One thing that is not going on, is any 'building'.
Unless you count weird shaped skyscrapers in the City.
You can ruin a country; you could try, if you are optimistic, to govern a country; you might, in extremis, save a country. But you don't build a country.
Is it me, or is that wording on the wall behind speakers at the Tory conference wonky?
Don't know about the lettering, but the sentiment is hilarious. One thing that is not going on, is any 'building'.
Unless you count weird shaped skyscrapers in the City.
You can ruin a country; you could try, if you are optimistic, to govern a country; you might, in extremis, save a country. But you don't build a country.
That would come as a surprise to the EU.
To judge by a few of our posters on here, they've been rather successful.
Two questions: (1) why is David Letterman sporting a beard that makes him look like an elderly Tom Hanks in Castaway, and, (2) what on earth does the shooting have to do with "White privilege"?
And why has he misspelled his own name and added the word parody?
If you want to develop a conspiracy theory, note that Boulton's wife is Russian, as indeed Aaron Banks' is too. Boulton was one of our spooks of course. There is an interesting comnnection to the LDs via Mike Hancock, who assisted Mrs Banks stay in the UK. Curious and curioser.
Certainly have been a curious number of Russian women marrying much older but politically significant types of late.
"UKIP Leadership Contest Was Rigged, Says Morrissey
Morrissey has declared his belief that the recent UKIP leadership elections were rigged to prevent far-right, anti-Islamic candidate Anne Marie Waters from being elected"
Well I've no idea whether it was rigged or not, but I can't understand how UKIP could have voted in a pro mass immigration former Lib Dem who no one has ever heard of.
Can anyone explain it to me?
"UKIP if you want to. The Lady's NOT for kipping!"
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Mrs Stodge and I have visited Vegas many times and have stayed at the Mandalay Bay. The level of security in the hotels, the casinos and on the Strip is considerable and we have never felt under any kind of threat or risk while there.
That being said, once you have a room and a Guest card there is little or no supervision by staff. How this man brought in so many guns without being observed (and CCTV is ubiquitous) will be one of the questions to be answered. Presumably Hotel housekeeping never went into his room or were the guns in the wardrobes ?
The rooms are very large and very comfortable by European standards.
Morrissey has declared his belief that the recent UKIP leadership elections were rigged to prevent far-right, anti-Islamic candidate Anne Marie Waters from being elected"
http://thequietus.com/articles/23308-morrissey-anne-marie-waters-ukip-support
Mr. Urquhart, you'll never get a job as a political journalist with that sort of perspective
Can anyone explain it to me?
'And yet Labour enjoys only a 1% lead over the Tories led by May according to the latest Yougov poll, a company which favours Labour -and that is before the Tories change their leader and preside over a better campain to get their own vote out.That lead is lower than that enjoyed by Kinock and Miliband. No opposition which has not been 15 points ahead in the polls between elections has ever gone on to win a general election with a majority. It seems to me that we are being set up once again for a suprising exit poll.'
The most recent Yougov poll I am aware of actually gives Labour a 4% lead over the Tories. As for the Opposition needing at least a 15% lead, when has that happened within 4 months of the preceding election. Moreover, it did not happen at all in the last Parliament - yet Labour still went on to make 30 net gains.
Check out Guido Fawkes summary of him.
Note that celebrity is not necessarily the attribute sought in selecting a political leader.
In the UK that's why we resist the arming of police so much; in the US they are happy with the police being armed so long as they are as well.
It's only the poor sods in Europe who have an armed government and a disarmed population.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmwqEg-06Ww
Conservatives won, Labour lost.
Unless you count weird shaped skyscrapers in the City.
http://www.un.org/en/events/nonviolenceday/
1) Looking at the pictures of the hotel, he shot through the windows to start. OK he could just have pointed the weapon at the windows (well of course that's what he did). He then will have pointed downwards at the crowd. Which all seems fairly straightforward. But for "not an avid gun guy" that is still quite a lot of technique to need. If he was untrained in such weaponry, he would have received a huge shock when he pulled the trigger. They may look docile in the hands of Matt Damon but such a weapon has a huge kick and is by no means easy to control. To force it out of the window and then pointing downwards and keep on firing just isn't so simple. Now of course he had time to refine the process (you can hear when he changes magazines) but a gun like that is more likely to control you if you're new to it. Sadly, he had enough time to make it work for him.
2) As mentioned this morning, for a country with the sensible mantra of "run, hide, fight", it is a shame that you can hear several calls of "get down". Running is always the better option, especially of course since the advent of marauding attacks. Everyone running in every direction might not have reduced significantly the death toll, but it may well have reduced it.
3) I appreciate the fog of war mitigates against any "sensible, hindsight-driven" action.
4) So what of those conclusions? Not sure at all. He either must have had training and actually been an avid gun guy after all, or he just learned by doing in the hotel room (of course most likely), or....well in my wilder speculative moments, I would have said it might have been someone else doing the shooting.
http://tinyurl.com/OnlyAVCanSaveTheTories
There is of course no prospect of such a proposal presently gaining Congressional approval, never mind that of the states. Why then do it? Because as with the anti-slavery and Civil Rights movements, a change in the political culture in terms of what is acceptable is necessary before reform can take place and that change has to be led; the flag must be raised.
450-500 of the seats (75%). They might as well spoil their ballot papers.
https://twitter.com/Channel4/status/914823856312979457
In any case I endorse this sentiment.
Take these with a pinch of salt. I got Renaissance right for her Florence speech but managed to pick three losers when Corbyn said almost everything else.
Run on the pound, at evens. Magic money tree at 2.75. Free market at 3.
The Conservatives appear to have woken up to the economy as an actual battleground (turns out saying **** all during the whole election campaign was a mistake). May herself has already commented on this, at her speech a week or two ago. All three are fairly stock phrases.
It turned out to be about their new production of Lucia di Lammermoor, not the Conservative Party conference.
'In 1964 Labour was expected to get a landslide. It won a majority of 4.'
Actually that is wrong. Labour had a clear lead in the polls throughout the Spring and early Summer , but in mid-August the Tories took the lead in some polls. By the time Parliament was dissolved in mid-September Douglas -Home and the Tories were favourites to win re-election and it was only in the last ten days of the campaign that Labour regained a narrow lead.
https://twitter.com/AlexInAir/status/914886886061232128
Of course to what extent they do follow up 110,000 insurance policies/credit card companies to recover the funds is anyone's guess......
Of course, it maybe 2007 all over again. But I've never seen such confidence in the city.
In the grand scheme of things it seems a decent response, but then it seems those who needed to know were well aware Monarch we going tits up well in advance so had the chance to do some proper planning.
Unlike Libya, no need for the SAS to be sent in....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8186328/Russian-spy-case-Liberal-Democrat-MP-helped-second-Russian-girl.html
Not in the same league as taking over the POTUS of course.
"The six graphs that explain why Monarch went under "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/why-monarch-collapse-spain-egypt-turkey/
Guess what, not one of them even mentions Brexit or the exchange rate.
This is, and will continue to be, a massive political issue - but it's one on which the US is sharply divided, and minds are unlikely to be changed by this awful event. If a massacre of young school kids won't do it, why should this ?
As James Fallows at the Atlantic puts it, "this is who we are"...
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/two-dark-american-truths-from-las-vegas/541692/
The brother of the Las Vegas attacker has told US media that their father had for a time been on the infamous FBI Most Wanted List.
Patrick Benjamin Paddock had been "diagnosed as psychopathic, has carried firearms in commission of bank robberies" and "reportedly has suicidal tendencies and should be considered armed and very dangerous," according to the FBI bulletin from 1969.
To judge by a few of our posters on here, they've been rather successful.
Basically for $100 you can buy a device that turns you semi-auto into pretty much a full auto, and it is totally legal.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/02/las-vegas-suspect-stephen-paddock-gun-semi-automatic
I mean like WTFFFFFFFF....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6FnhUYifgs
https://twitter.com/mattholehouse/status/914902348593598466
So Andrea is presumably picturing full EU political integration. One law, one people.
But I don't disagree with your point.