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    logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,718
    Nigelb said:

    Jonathan said:

    Gove.

    Tainted Gove?
    Gove Hurts.

    All You Need is Gove
    This is too easy.
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    Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 12,999

    Nigelb said:

    Jonathan said:

    Gove.

    Tainted Gove?
    Gove Hurts.

    All You Need is Gove
    This is too easy.
    Lick my Govepump
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    OchEyeOchEye Posts: 1,469
    justin124 said:

    OchEye said:

    Just taken the dog for a walk, and thought through the alternatives. Which ever way you throw the dice, there only seems to be one viable route.

    Tomorrow, May has to go to HMQ and return the Great Seal. A GE to be called in 4 weeks time.

    There is no potential leader to replace May within the Conservative MP's who has the confidence of the majority of them. There is probably no conservative MP who wants the job as they can all recognise a poison chalice of Brexit.

    The EU leaders will have watched or found out about her appearance at the conference. Her already diminished reputation has gone even further down, if that is possible.

    It might be surprising to some, but I actually believe that a dual or multi party system is good for democracy in that an opposition must be able to question the administration, to discover faults and allow rectification. When the administration, as with the present one, tries to override the opposition, whether within the Commons or Lords, then they have lost the right to govern.

    In the words of Margaret Thatcher, "There is no alternative".

    A GE cannot be called in 4 weeks time. The FTA stipulates at least 25 working days - ie 5 weeks - between Dissolution and Polling Day. Parliament would also need to be sitting in order to vote for a Dissolution. Earliest date now would be November 16th - but it will not happen!
    Civil Servants, will do whatever their masters demand. If they can come up with a plausible action, they will.
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    MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,203
    edited October 2017
    Scott_P said:
    MJW said:

    I didn't see the speech live, but the BBC 10 o'clock news programme didn't seem too bad to me - it gave plenty of space to supportive delegates and to her policy message. If the BBC were the Tory-hating channel that some suspect, it would have been much worse.

    I think she'll get some sympathy - after all none of the mishaps can be described as directly being her fault - unlike last year's "citizens of nowhere" speech, which eventually caught up with her at the election.

    The problem is, those are still the headlines and she needed a gamechanger. She needed great headlines today about this incredible new vision for Britain she'd found that was going to make Brexit work out, cure the Tories' infighting and draw the young away from Jeremy Corbyn - or at least something tending that way and beginning to set out how those things could be achieved. Instead it's that she's an unlucky general.
    The sad thing about all the shit that went down during the speech is that it has detracted from analysis of what she actually said.

    Which was channelling Miliband policies that were ruthlessly attacked by the Tories previously and a load of hooey about opportunity that entirely sat at odds with her relentlessly nasty and authoritarian speech of 2016. In other words loaded with layer on layer of hypocrisy. That's what the papers should be exposing.

    As for Boris, the guy has repeatedly shown himself unfit to run a whelk stall. He's derided by virtually the whole world. If he gets the top job, we'll be ostracised, a global laughing stock.

    We need a proper deal now, to rise above the bullshit, the fantasy and the party politics, and it's a deal only a remainer can make.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,750
    OchEye said:

    justin124 said:

    OchEye said:

    Just taken the dog for a walk, and thought through the alternatives. Which ever way you throw the dice, there only seems to be one viable route.

    Tomorrow, May has to go to HMQ and return the Great Seal. A GE to be called in 4 weeks time.

    There is no potential leader to replace May within the Conservative MP's who has the confidence of the majority of them. There is probably no conservative MP who wants the job as they can all recognise a poison chalice of Brexit.

    The EU leaders will have watched or found out about her appearance at the conference. Her already diminished reputation has gone even further down, if that is possible.

    It might be surprising to some, but I actually believe that a dual or multi party system is good for democracy in that an opposition must be able to question the administration, to discover faults and allow rectification. When the administration, as with the present one, tries to override the opposition, whether within the Commons or Lords, then they have lost the right to govern.

    In the words of Margaret Thatcher, "There is no alternative".

    A GE cannot be called in 4 weeks time. The FTA stipulates at least 25 working days - ie 5 weeks - between Dissolution and Polling Day. Parliament would also need to be sitting in order to vote for a Dissolution. Earliest date now would be November 16th - but it will not happen!
    Civil Servants, will do whatever their masters demand. If they can come up with a plausible action, they will.
    It's not a matter of physically being able, it's the law. To do it faster they'd need parliament to change it, and why would the expend energy fighting over 2 weeks?
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