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  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 28,916
    edited November 2017
    Conversation with his wife...awkward...

    At least he didn’t claim to be a washing machine salesman.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 32,851
    Bloody vanilla! Reposted from the other new thread:

    Erm, NSFW warning on that text message? :o
  • But, does he have porn on his computer?
  • RobD said:

    Bloody vanilla! Reposted from the other new thread:

    Erm, NSFW warning on that text message? :o

    I thought he was talking about his hobby of animal husbandry.
  • But, does he have porn on his computer?

    I am going to guess the answer to that is, yes...
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 31,692
    RobD said:

    surbiton said:

    90-odd year old Head of State without a democratic mandate refuses to go.

    Meanwhile in Zimbabwe...

    The 90-odd year old in Zimbabwe also believes in dynasties and sponging money from the State.
    Well the dynasty bit is a feature of constitutional monarchies, less so for presidential republics.
    I don't know, it seems pretty common. This BBC article lists 5 potential ones just for starters (I'm not including the Zuma one)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42009211
    rcs1000 said:

    surbiton said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    surbiton said:

    geoffw said:

    Daniel Gros's letter to the FT might influence the negotiators.

    He says (I paraphrase because the FT is touchy about copyright) that the EU has assets of ~ €160bn and liabilities of ~ €232bn, thus net debt of ~ €72bn, and since the UK's share in the EU budget is 14 per cent our "disengagement payment" would be 0.14 x €72bn = €10bn, or a bit less than £9bn, and that this should be the settlement.

    Gros is a significant European economist and is director of the Centre for European Policy Studies in Brussels

    To see the letter google "The Brexit divorce bill made simple comes in at just €10bn".

    What would UK do if the EU does not accept this argument ? Take them to the ECJ ?

    The EU position is not about assets. It is about contractual agreements.
    Oh goody, clarity at last. Could you just post the text of the specific relevant agreement?
    Those expenses commitments we have already signed.Don't worry, Barnier has given Davis many copies.
    Actually, he has not. Barnier has to publish anything that they demand formally and he can't do that because it has no legal basis. The EU have never produced any list of 'commitments', nor have they provided the UK with any legal basis for their demands. They simply demand that the UK tell them what they will pay.

    You need to get your story straight. One minute they are demanding 'commitments', the next you say that they are 'make up the rules as they go along' How about admit that you have no idea what you are talking about but you just want to support the EUs position, whatever it may be.
    The EU analysis has been printed in the FT and the WSJ. You can disagree with it all you like, but you cannot argue that it has not been circulated widely.
    And yet I was being told earlier that 'no one' was aware of the figures, despite me reading them in such journals, when I dared to suggest the EU had suggested certain figures.
  • RobD said:

    Bloody vanilla! Reposted from the other new thread:

    Erm, NSFW warning on that text message? :o

    NSFW added for all you of a delicate disposition.
  • rcs1000 said:

    surbiton said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    surbiton said:

    geoffw said:

    Daniel Gros's letter to the FT might influence the negotiators.

    He says (I paraphrase because the FT is touchy about copyright) that the EU has assets of ~ €160bn and liabilities of ~ €232bn, thus net debt of ~ €72bn, and since the UK's share in the EU budget is 14 per cent our "disengagement payment" would be 0.14 x €72bn = €10bn, or a bit less than £9bn, and that this should be the settlement.

    Gros is a significant European economist and is director of the Centre for European Policy Studies in Brussels

    To see the letter google "The Brexit divorce bill made simple comes in at just €10bn".

    What would UK do if the EU does not accept this argument ? Take them to the ECJ ?

    The EU position is not about assets. It is about contractual agreements.
    Oh goody, clarity at last. Could you just post the text of the specific relevant agreement?
    Those expenses commitments we have already signed.Don't worry, Barnier has given Davis many copies.
    Actually, he has not. Barnier has to publish anything that they demand formally and he can't do that because it has no legal basis. The EU have never produced any list of 'commitments', nor have they provided the UK with any legal basis for their demands. They simply demand that the UK tell them what they will pay.

    You need to get your story straight. One minute they are demanding 'commitments', the next you say that they are 'make up the rules as they go along' How about admit that you have no idea what you are talking about but you just want to support the EUs position, whatever it may be.
    The EU analysis has been printed in the FT and the WSJ. You can disagree with it all you like, but you cannot argue that it has not been circulated widely.
    No, it was not the EU analysis, it was an FT analysis based on their view of the EUs negotiating position. The EU have never produced an analysis, nor a legal justification.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 32,851

    RobD said:

    Bloody vanilla! Reposted from the other new thread:

    Erm, NSFW warning on that text message? :o

    NSFW added for all you of a delicate disposition.
    LOL. Excellent placement.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 31,692
    edited November 2017
    In his office too, that's just asking to be caught.

    As TSE says, hopefully he can find some peace now his gay/bi nature is out in the open (which presumably either stems from deep hypocrisy or self loathing).
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 1,536
    Spoilt for choice: five versions of this thread.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 31,692
    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?
  • But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 32,851
    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 31,692
    edited November 2017
    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.

    On the other hand apparently his full name is Sheev Palpatine. Sheev? Jeesh.
  • kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 32,851

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 66,813
    edited November 2017
    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 8,828
    "Evening, bloke who wants to be Prime Minister."
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 31,692

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 5,544

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 32,851
    Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?
    I'd guess mainly the latter?
  • kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
    Just wait until we get another Charles I.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 32,851

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    Actually Parliament mandated the monarch must be a descendant of Sophia of Hanover. Not sure if a sky fairy chose her or not. :p
  • Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?
    Speaking for a friend, every website he visits on his phone via chrome also gets tagged on chrome on his MacBook.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,487
    Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?

    Because they've visited the Daily Mail web site...

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 31,692

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
    Just wait until we get another Charles I.
    We'll never have such a one again; HMQ might well believe in being divinely chosen to reign, but clearly doesn't believe in a divine right to rule. What we might get is someone who cannot exist within the role as the public is willing to except, at which point public opinion will shift.
  • LOL at this freaking out about porn on computers since the Green story emerged.
  • RobD said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    Actually Parliament mandated the monarch must be a descendant of Sophia of Hanover. Not sure if a sky fairy chose her or not. :p
    Her Majesty thinks so

    By the Grace of God (Latin Dei Gratia, abbreviated D.G.) is an introductory part of the full styles of a monarch historically considered to be ruling by divine right, not a title in its own right. In the United Kingdom, for example, the phrase was added to the royal style in 1521 and has continued to be used to this day. According to the "Royal Proclamation reciting the altered Style and Titles of the Crown" of May 29, 1953, the latest such change of royal title, Elizabeth II's present full title is

    Elizabeth II, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_the_Grace_of_God
  • Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?
    Speaking for a friend, every website he visits on his phone via chrome also gets tagged on chrome on his MacBook.
    Sounds like another good reason to dump the iCrap products!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 10,613
    edited November 2017

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
    Just wait until we get another Charles I.
    On a point of pedantry:

    We cannot have a second Charles I. It is mathematically impossible.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,487
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
    Just wait until we get another Charles I.
    We'll never have such a one again; HMQ might well believe in being divinely chosen to reign, but clearly doesn't believe in a divine right to rule. What we might get is someone who cannot exist within the role as the public is willing to except, at which point public opinion will shift.

    "except" plz no. fink u mean "accept".

  • RobDRobD Posts: 32,851
    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
    Just wait until we get another Charles I.
    On a point of pedantry:

    We cannot have a second Charles I. It is mathematically impossible.
    Unless regnal numbers overflow. :p
  • Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?
    Speaking for a friend, every website he visits on his phone via chrome also gets tagged on chrome on his MacBook.
    Sounds like another good reason to dump the iCrap products!
    Is a chrome thing. You log into your account on an android phone and onto a windows laptop and the same happens.

    You just have to login.

    Is useful when you switch devices and want to have your bookmarks available on all devices.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 31,692
    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
    Just wait until we get another Charles I.
    On a point of pedantry:

    We cannot have a second Charles I. It is mathematically impossible.
    Well they could always decide to mess up the numbering - Charles I and Charles II were not Kings of the United Kingdom after all since it did not exist, though it would be odd to suddenly ditch the tally of numbers starting with William.

    I'm still waiting on another King Aethelstan, or Offa. They had some good names back then that are just not used any more.
  • TomsToms Posts: 1,554
    This is kinda boring. He's a politician and human being. As long as he doesn't do bad things to kids or mow people down we can forget about him.
  • kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
    Just wait until we get another Charles I.
    We'll never have such a one again; HMQ might well believe in being divinely chosen to reign, but clearly doesn't believe in a divine right to rule. What we might get is someone who cannot exist within the role as the public is willing to except, at which point public opinion will shift.
    How about a Charles I with George III’s mental health issues.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 31,692

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
    Just wait until we get another Charles I.
    We'll never have such a one again; HMQ might well believe in being divinely chosen to reign, but clearly doesn't believe in a divine right to rule. What we might get is someone who cannot exist within the role as the public is willing to except, at which point public opinion will shift.

    "except" plz no. fink u mean "accept".

    No no, I meant that they were not willing to make an exception, you know, to except it. Yeah, that's it.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 6,209

    RobD said:

    Bloody vanilla! Reposted from the other new thread:

    Erm, NSFW warning on that text message? :o

    NSFW added for all you of a delicate disposition.
    For those of us actually working on a Sunday evening, the self-petard hoisting of (yet another) Republican politician serves as light entertainment..

  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,487

    Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?
    Speaking for a friend, every website he visits on his phone via chrome also gets tagged on chrome on his MacBook.
    Sounds like another good reason to dump the iCrap products!
    Is a chrome thing. You log into your account on an android phone and onto a windows laptop and the same happens.

    You just have to login.

    Is useful when you switch devices and want to have your bookmarks available on all devices.

    "A friend" just has to login. You mean.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 28,916
    edited November 2017

    Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?
    Speaking for a friend, every website he visits on his phone via chrome also gets tagged on chrome on his MacBook.
    Sounds like another good reason to dump the iCrap products!
    Is a chrome thing. You log into your account on an android phone and onto a windows laptop and the same happens.

    You just have to login.

    Is useful when you switch devices and want to have your bookmarks available on all devices.
    Are you sure? My pc(s) bookmarks and history aren’t on my phone or vice versa.

    Edit - just remembered, that’s cos I turned it off as I use something else to manage bookmarks.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 10,613
    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
    Just wait until we get another Charles I.
    On a point of pedantry:

    We cannot have a second Charles I. It is mathematically impossible.
    Well they could always decide to mess up the numbering - Charles I and Charles II were not Kings of the United Kingdom after all since it did not exist, though it would be odd to suddenly ditch the tally of numbers starting with William.

    I'm still waiting on another King Aethelstan, or Offa. They had some good names back then that are just not used any more.
    As they were also Charles I and II of Scotland the point is not really relevant.

    Unless we went with Irish regnal numbers.

    I just await King Harold III!
  • Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?
    Speaking for a friend, every website he visits on his phone via chrome also gets tagged on chrome on his MacBook.
    Sounds like another good reason to dump the iCrap products!
    Is a chrome thing. You log into your account on an android phone and onto a windows laptop and the same happens.

    You just have to login.

    Is useful when you switch devices and want to have your bookmarks available on all devices.

    "A friend" just has to login. You mean.

    Yup.

    Like I’d use an android phone.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 31,692

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    By the by, I see Palpatine's Star Wars wiki page is over 77000 words long. God bless you, Star Wars fans.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    This site really needs updating;

    https://gayhomophobe.com/
  • Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?
    Speaking for a friend, every website he visits on his phone via chrome also gets tagged on chrome on his MacBook.
    Sounds like another good reason to dump the iCrap products!
    Is a chrome thing. You log into your account on an android phone and onto a windows laptop and the same happens.

    You just have to login.

    Is useful when you switch devices and want to have your bookmarks available on all devices.
    Are you sure? My pc(s) bookmarks and history aren’t on my phone or vice versa.
    Yup. Login into chrome on your phone.

    Click on bookmarks, then hit the ‘bookmarks bar’ option and it’ll bring up the bookmarks from your laptop (assuming you use chrome on your laptop)

    Same principle for the history tab.
  • There is a great new feature coming from google that is definitely going to cause embarrassment. Google will auto tag people in your photos and there will be a setting that will auto distribute photos to people who it thinks would want to see them.

    How many people having affairs with partners friends are going to get caught out!
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 5,544

    Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?

    Because they've visited the Daily Mail web site...

    It's bizarre. It doesn't take 10 minutes to find out how to securely erase ghost files, but people think (I think) that their computer is an extension of their consciousness and entirely inaccessible to anyone else.

    My problem which is probably common is that I use computers till they fail, and what fails is not necessarily the hard drive. So I end up with a hard drive full of confidential (but not pornographic) material and no way to access and delete it. So I never dare throw a computer away. I suppose I should drive a car over them.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 19,820

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
    Just wait until we get another Charles I.
    We'll never have such a one again; HMQ might well believe in being divinely chosen to reign, but clearly doesn't believe in a divine right to rule. What we might get is someone who cannot exist within the role as the public is willing to except, at which point public opinion will shift.
    How about a Charles I with George III’s mental health issues.
    For people who like weird stuff:

    George III hair is currently on display at the Wellcome Collection in London (along with Nelson's razor, Darwins walking stick and Florence Nightingale's moccasins)

    Henry Wellcome was a weirdo!
  • There is a great new feature coming from google that is definitely going to cause embarrassment. Google will auto tag people in your photos and there will be a setting that will auto distribute photos to people who it thinks would want to see them.

    How many people having affairs with partners friends are going to get caught out!

    Nearly as stupid as sharing an apple/iCloud account with your wife.

    So apple were responsible for my divorce.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 19,820
    @Yokel

    If you are around what's up with the Panama Ocean Hotel? hearing some grim rumours. Anything real?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 32,851
    edited November 2017
    Pong said:

    This site really needs updating;

    https://gayhomophobe.com/

    A very lose definition of 'homophobe', and the criteria doesn't seem to be restricted to scandals. The person on top of the list for almost two years was neither a homophobe, nor was he in any scandal.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 10,613
    Charles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke out everyone remotely anti-Mugabe in Zanu-PF by pretending to want Mnangagwa to take over, why essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
    Just wait until we get another Charles I.
    We'll never have such a one again; HMQ might well believe in being divinely chosen to reign, but clearly doesn't believe in a divine right to rule. What we might get is someone who cannot exist within the role as the public is willing to except, at which point public opinion will shift.
    How about a Charles I with George III’s mental health issues.
    For people who like weird stuff:

    George III hair is currently on display at the Wellcome Collection in London (along with Nelson's razor, Darwins walking stick and Florence Nightingale's moccasins)

    Henry Wellcome was a weirdo!
    Could be worse. At least it isn't Henri IV's head or Napoleon's todger.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 32,851

    There is a great new feature coming from google that is definitely going to cause embarrassment. Google will auto tag people in your photos and there will be a setting that will auto distribute photos to people who it thinks would want to see them.

    How many people having affairs with partners friends are going to get caught out!

    Just, why?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 19,820

    Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?
    Speaking for a friend, every website he visits on his phone via chrome also gets tagged on chrome on his MacBook.
    Sounds like another good reason to dump the iCrap products!
    Is a chrome thing. You log into your account on an android phone and onto a windows laptop and the same happens.

    You just have to login.

    Is useful when you switch devices and want to have your bookmarks available on all devices.
    Are you sure? My pc(s) bookmarks and history aren’t on my phone or vice versa.
    Yup. Login into chrome on your phone.

    Click on bookmarks, then hit the ‘bookmarks bar’ option and it’ll bring up the bookmarks from your laptop (assuming you use chrome on your laptop)

    Same principle for the history tab.
    You don't have Automatically Delete History switched on?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 19,820

    There is a great new feature coming from google that is definitely going to cause embarrassment. Google will auto tag people in your photos and there will be a setting that will auto distribute photos to people who it thinks would want to see them.

    How many people having affairs with partners friends are going to get caught out!

    They could be sued for that!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 31,692
    Charles said:

    There is a great new feature coming from google that is definitely going to cause embarrassment. Google will auto tag people in your photos and there will be a setting that will auto distribute photos to people who it thinks would want to see them.

    How many people having affairs with partners friends are going to get caught out!

    They could be sued for that!
    Isn't some French guy suing Uber for similar reasons?
  • Ishmael_Z said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?

    Because they've visited the Daily Mail web site...

    It's bizarre. It doesn't take 10 minutes to find out how to securely erase ghost files, but people think (I think) that their computer is an extension of their consciousness and entirely inaccessible to anyone else.

    My problem which is probably common is that I use computers till they fail, and what fails is not necessarily the hard drive. So I end up with a hard drive full of confidential (but not pornographic) material and no way to access and delete it. So I never dare throw a computer away. I suppose I should drive a car over them.
    Take hard drive. Plug into different pc. Run one of the many eraser apps.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 32,851

    There is a great new feature coming from google that is definitely going to cause embarrassment. Google will auto tag people in your photos and there will be a setting that will auto distribute photos to people who it thinks would want to see them.

    How many people having affairs with partners friends are going to get caught out!

    Nearly as stupid as sharing an apple/iCloud account with your wife.

    So apple were responsible for my divorce.
    That, or you were spending too much of your time in the archives researching AV for your upcoming magnum opus... :p
  • Charles said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?
    Speaking for a friend, every website he visits on his phone via chrome also gets tagged on chrome on his MacBook.
    Sounds like another good reason to dump the iCrap products!
    Is a chrome thing. You log into your account on an android phone and onto a windows laptop and the same happens.

    You just have to login.

    Is useful when you switch devices and want to have your bookmarks available on all devices.
    Are you sure? My pc(s) bookmarks and history aren’t on my phone or vice versa.
    Yup. Login into chrome on your phone.

    Click on bookmarks, then hit the ‘bookmarks bar’ option and it’ll bring up the bookmarks from your laptop (assuming you use chrome on your laptop)

    Same principle for the history tab.
    You don't have Automatically Delete History switched on?
    I don't need it.

    I'm a good Muslim boy.
  • RobD said:

    There is a great new feature coming from google that is definitely going to cause embarrassment. Google will auto tag people in your photos and there will be a setting that will auto distribute photos to people who it thinks would want to see them.

    How many people having affairs with partners friends are going to get caught out!

    Just, why?
    Because emailling photos is just too much hassle! I want to know who ok’ed that functionality and the. Thought it was so great they boasted about it at the set piece Conference.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 19,820
    ydoethur said:

    Charles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
    Just wait until we get another Charles I.
    We'll never have such a one again; HMQ might well believe in being divinely chosen to reign, but clearly doesn't believe in a divine right to rule. What we might get is someone who cannot exist within the role as the public is willing to except, at which point public opinion will shift.
    How about a Charles I with George III’s mental health issues.
    For people who like weird stuff:

    George III hair is currently on display at the Wellcome Collection in London (along with Nelson's razor, Darwins walking stick and Florence Nightingale's moccasins)

    Henry Wellcome was a weirdo!
    Could be worse. At least it isn't Henri IV's head or Napoleon's todger.
    One of my ancestors was the guy who pickled napoleans todger!

    (Major Thomas Poppleton)

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 31,692
    Charles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Charles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I havegue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
    Just wait until we get another Charles I.
    We'll never have such a one again; HMQ might well believe in being divinely chosen to reign, but clearly doesn't believe in a divine right to rule. What we might get is someone who cannot exist within the role as the public is willing to except, at which point public opinion will shift.
    How about a Charles I with George III’s mental health issues.
    For people who like weird stuff:

    George III hair is currently on display at the Wellcome Collection in London (along with Nelson's razor, Darwins walking stick and Florence Nightingale's moccasins)

    Henry Wellcome was a weirdo!
    Could be worse. At least it isn't Henri IV's head or Napoleon's todger.
    One of my ancestors was the guy who pickled napoleans todger!

    (Major Thomas Poppleton)

    I have heard it can be hard to live up to exalted ancestors, and in this case I really don't know whose todger you'll have to pickle to exceed Major Poppleton.

    Robert Mugabe?
  • RobD said:

    There is a great new feature coming from google that is definitely going to cause embarrassment. Google will auto tag people in your photos and there will be a setting that will auto distribute photos to people who it thinks would want to see them.

    How many people having affairs with partners friends are going to get caught out!

    Nearly as stupid as sharing an apple/iCloud account with your wife.

    So apple were responsible for my divorce.
    That, or you were spending too much of your time in the archives researching AV for your upcoming magnum opus... :p
    My 16 day stint as guest editor has begun.

    On a quiet day I plan to publish a thread that combine both Scottish Independence and AV.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 10,613
    Charles said:


    One of my ancestors was the guy who pickled napoleans todger!

    (Major Thomas Poppleton)

    Major Poppleton pickled Napoleon's John Thomas?

    Dearie dearie me...
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 10,199

    There is a great new feature coming from google that is definitely going to cause embarrassment. Google will auto tag people in your photos and there will be a setting that will auto distribute photos to people who it thinks would want to see them.

    How many people having affairs with partners friends are going to get caught out!

    Photograph albums are your answer.

  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,487
    Charles said:

    One of my ancestors was the guy who pickled napoleans todger!

    (Major Thomas Poppleton)


    Should have been called: John Thomas Pickled-one.

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 10,613
    kle4 said:

    Charles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Charles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    That would seem a very odd course of action - unless it was the most elaborate double bluff in history to smoke essentially endorse the party to sack Mugabe, then back him again?

    Got nothing on Palpatine. :D
    Since I havegue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
    Just wait until we get another Charles I.
    We'll never have such a one again; HMQ might well believe in being divinely chosen to reign, but clearly doesn't believe in a divine right to rule. What we might get is someone who cannot exist within the role as the public is willing to except, at which point public opinion will shift.
    How about a Charles I with George III’s mental health issues.
    For people who like weird stuff:

    George III hair is currently on display at the Wellcome Collection in London (along with Nelson's razor, Darwins walking stick and Florence Nightingale's moccasins)

    Henry Wellcome was a weirdo!
    Could be worse. At least it isn't Henri IV's head or Napoleon's todger.
    One of my ancestors was the guy who pickled napoleans todger!

    (Major Thomas Poppleton)

    I have heard it can be hard to live up to exalted ancestors, and in this case I really don't know whose todger you'll have to pickle to exceed Major Poppleton.

    Robert Mugabe?
    Kim Jong Un may have an even smaller one to judge by his obsession with ICBMs.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 5,544

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?

    Because they've visited the Daily Mail web site...

    It's bizarre. It doesn't take 10 minutes to find out how to securely erase ghost files, but people think (I think) that their computer is an extension of their consciousness and entirely inaccessible to anyone else.

    My problem which is probably common is that I use computers till they fail, and what fails is not necessarily the hard drive. So I end up with a hard drive full of confidential (but not pornographic) material and no way to access and delete it. So I never dare throw a computer away. I suppose I should drive a car over them.
    Take hard drive. Plug into different pc. Run one of the many eraser apps.
    You confused me with ”take” and lost me completely at the plugging in bit. Stacking laptops in the garage is just easier.
  • Love the story from Ohio. Nowt funnier than the holier than thou hypocrite. Though I wonder if his table thumping anti-gay bigotry was because secretly he had a cock fetish that he couldn't pray away.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 4,552
    edited November 2017

    Her Majesty thinks so

    By the Grace of God (Latin Dei Gratia, abbreviated D.G.) is an introductory part of the full styles of a monarch historically considered to be ruling by divine right, not a title in its own right. In the United Kingdom, for example, the phrase was added to the royal style in 1521 and has continued to be used to this day. According to the "Royal Proclamation reciting the altered Style and Titles of the Crown" of May 29, 1953, the latest such change of royal title, Elizabeth II's present full title is

    Elizabeth II, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_the_Grace_of_God

    Andrew Marr said in a scripted programme on primetime BBC1 that the Queen genuinely believed she had been chosen to be in her position by "God".

    He did add a phrase to the effect that some viewers might find that hard to believe, but he said it absolutely was the case.

    The mind boggles.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 32,851
    Ishmael_Z said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?

    Because they've visited the Daily Mail web site...

    It's bizarre. It doesn't take 10 minutes to find out how to securely erase ghost files, but people think (I think) that their computer is an extension of their consciousness and entirely inaccessible to anyone else.

    My problem which is probably common is that I use computers till they fail, and what fails is not necessarily the hard drive. So I end up with a hard drive full of confidential (but not pornographic) material and no way to access and delete it. So I never dare throw a computer away. I suppose I should drive a car over them.
    Take hard drive. Plug into different pc. Run one of the many eraser apps.
    You confused me with ”take” and lost me completely at the plugging in bit. Stacking laptops in the garage is just easier.
    You should be able to open the case and take out the hard drive, even in a laptop. You'll need a converter to plug it into another computer though, but those aren't too expensive. Of course, there are companies that specialise in confidential data destruction. Maybe ping one H R Clinton? :p
  • TonyTony Posts: 122
    Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?
    Nearly all browsers will save local copies of any images loaded while you're surfing. First step of checking what someone has been up to us to look at the cached images. They'll also store a set of files which identify every website you've been on ever. Any friend should use chromes incognito mode which prevents any local caching.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 31,692
    MikeL said:

    Her Majesty thinks so

    By the Grace of God (Latin Dei Gratia, abbreviated D.G.) is an introductory part of the full styles of a monarch historically considered to be ruling by divine right, not a title in its own right. In the United Kingdom, for example, the phrase was added to the royal style in 1521 and has continued to be used to this day. According to the "Royal Proclamation reciting the altered Style and Titles of the Crown" of May 29, 1953, the latest such change of royal title, Elizabeth II's present full title is

    Elizabeth II, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_the_Grace_of_God

    Andrew Marr said in a scripted programme on primetime BBC1 that the Queen genuinely believed she had been chosen to be in her position by "God".

    He did add a phrase to the effect that some viewers might find that hard to believe, but he said it absolutely was the case.

    The mind boggles.
    It's presumably why in contrast to recent monarchical trends she won't abdicate. It's a divine duty. I don't agree, but then I don't agree with anyone who believes in destiny or the divine anyway.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 4,552
    kle4 said:

    MikeL said:

    Her Majesty thinks so

    By the Grace of God (Latin Dei Gratia, abbreviated D.G.) is an introductory part of the full styles of a monarch historically considered to be ruling by divine right, not a title in its own right. In the United Kingdom, for example, the phrase was added to the royal style in 1521 and has continued to be used to this day. According to the "Royal Proclamation reciting the altered Style and Titles of the Crown" of May 29, 1953, the latest such change of royal title, Elizabeth II's present full title is

    Elizabeth II, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_the_Grace_of_God

    Andrew Marr said in a scripted programme on primetime BBC1 that the Queen genuinely believed she had been chosen to be in her position by "God".

    He did add a phrase to the effect that some viewers might find that hard to believe, but he said it absolutely was the case.

    The mind boggles.
    It's presumably why in contrast to recent monarchical trends she won't abdicate. It's a divine duty. I don't agree, but then I don't agree with anyone who believes in destiny or the divine anyway.
    Let's be honest - the whole thing is totally comical and a complete charade.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 8,828
    Tony said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?
    Nearly all browsers will save local copies of any images loaded while you're surfing. First step of checking what someone has been up to us to look at the cached images. They'll also store a set of files which identify every website you've been on ever. Any friend should use chromes incognito mode which prevents any local caching.
    I remember explaining to a colleague the official purpose of incognito mode (accessing bank accounts on public computers etc.). And then I told them what it's really for!
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 5,213
    Ishmael_Z said:

    It's bizarre. It doesn't take 10 minutes to find out how to securely erase ghost files, but people think (I think) that their computer is an extension of their consciousness and entirely inaccessible to anyone else.

    My problem which is probably common is that I use computers till they fail, and what fails is not necessarily the hard drive. So I end up with a hard drive full of confidential (but not pornographic) material and no way to access and delete it. So I never dare throw a computer away. I suppose I should drive a car over them.

    The methodology of securely disposing of information on PCs crops up frequently. If we assume the person hasn't taken elementary precautions (say, CCleaner + reformatting the disk repeatedly), then there are numerous methods of increasing silliness. Strong magnets are popular but - be honest - where are you getting hold of strong magnets? If we limit ourselves to the equipment that an average house contains, adequate tools would be a screwdriver, adjustable spanners, a drill, and some secateurs. Dissasemble the PC using a screwdriver (see http://www.insidemylaptop.com/), cut up the fragile components with secateurs, wrench apart the more rigid ones with adjustable spanners, and the rigid parts (eg the hard drive) can be rendered unusable by drilling multiple holes in it. If you are of a dramatic frame of mind, then creating a small pile, put them in a saucepan and setting fire to the bits rounds it off perfectly. Dispose of the remains by putting into multiple different bins or throw into a river. Voila.

    It kind of depends who you want to keep your stuff secret from. If you want to keep your embarrassing stuff out of the reach of your loved ones then that should do. If you want to hide your porn from the people who maintain your machine, then cleaners like CCleaner and going thru your downloads folders, clearing your browsing history, etc should be adequate. If you are doing illegal things then you will have to go thru the whole darkweb browsers, alternate identity, >1 PC, never-surf-from-your-house rigmarole, but that's not my field nor interest (I hasten to add). However if you are just worried about leaving financial or personal data on your PC before disposing of your laptop, then the solution is simple: clear it down first, then take it to a local PC repairer , ask them to clear it down, then take it to a charity recycler who will again clear it down then install a new OS on top of it. Voila again.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 31,692
    MikeL said:

    kle4 said:

    MikeL said:

    Her Majesty thinks so

    By the Grace of God (Latin Dei Gratia, abbreviated D.G.) is an introductory part of the full styles of a monarch historically considered to be ruling by divine right, not a title in its own right. In the United Kingdom, for example, the phrase was added to the royal style in 1521 and has continued to be used to this day. According to the "Royal Proclamation reciting the altered Style and Titles of the Crown" of May 29, 1953, the latest such change of royal title, Elizabeth II's present full title is

    Elizabeth II, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_the_Grace_of_God

    Andrew Marr said in a scripted programme on primetime BBC1 that the Queen genuinely believed she had been chosen to be in her position by "God".

    He did add a phrase to the effect that some viewers might find that hard to believe, but he said it absolutely was the case.

    The mind boggles.
    It's presumably why in contrast to recent monarchical trends she won't abdicate. It's a divine duty. I don't agree, but then I don't agree with anyone who believes in destiny or the divine anyway.
    Let's be honest - the whole thing is totally comical and a complete charade.
    I would say that like a lot of human culture it doesn't make a lot of logical sense, but it is a system which, for now, works for this country just fine.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 9,996
    viewcode said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    It's bizarre. It doesn't take 10 minutes to find out how to securely erase ghost files, but people think (I think) that their computer is an extension of their consciousness and entirely inaccessible to anyone else.

    My problem which is probably common is that I use computers till they fail, and what fails is not necessarily the hard drive. So I end up with a hard drive full of confidential (but not pornographic) material and no way to access and delete it. So I never dare throw a computer away. I suppose I should drive a car over them.

    The methodology of securely disposing of information on PCs crops up frequently. If we assume the person hasn't taken elementary precautions (say, CCleaner + reformatting the disk repeatedly), then there are numerous methods of increasing silliness. Strong magnets are popular but - be honest - where are you getting hold of strong magnets? If we limit ourselves to the equipment that an average house contains, adequate tools would be a screwdriver, adjustable spanners, a drill, and some secateurs. Dissasemble the PC using a screwdriver (see http://www.insidemylaptop.com/), cut up the fragile components with secateurs, wrench apart the more rigid ones with adjustable spanners, and the rigid parts (eg the hard drive) can be rendered unusable by drilling multiple holes in it. If you are of a dramatic frame of mind, then creating a small pile, put them in a saucepan and setting fire to the bits rounds it off perfectly. Dispose of the remains by putting into multiple different bins or throw into a river. Voila.

    It kind of depends who you want to keep your stuff secret from. If you want to keep your embarrassing stuff out of the reach of your loved ones then that should do. If you want to hide your porn from the people who maintain your machine, then cleaners like CCleaner and going thru your downloads folders, clearing your browsing history, etc should be adequate. If you are doing illegal things then you will have to go thru the whole darkweb browsers, alternate identity, >1 PC, never-surf-from-your-house rigmarole, but that's not my field nor interest (I hasten to add). However if you are just worried about leaving financial or personal data on your PC before disposing of your laptop, then the solution is simple: clear it down first, then take it to a local PC repairer , ask them to clear it down, then take it to a charity recycler who will again clear it down then install a new OS on top of it. Voila again.
    Good advice, except for throwing bits of metal into a river....
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 3,640
    kle4 said:

    MikeL said:

    kle4 said:

    MikeL said:

    Her Majesty thinks so

    By the Grace of God (Latin Dei Gratia, abbreviated D.G.) is an introductory part of the full styles of a monarch historically considered to be ruling by divine right, not a title in its own right. In the United Kingdom, for example, the phrase was added to the royal style in 1521 and has continued to be used to this day. According to the "Royal Proclamation reciting the altered Style and Titles of the Crown" of May 29, 1953, the latest such change of royal title, Elizabeth II's present full title is

    Elizabeth II, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_the_Grace_of_God

    Andrew Marr said in a scripted programme on primetime BBC1 that the Queen genuinely believed she had been chosen to be in her position by "God".

    He did add a phrase to the effect that some viewers might find that hard to believe, but he said it absolutely was the case.

    The mind boggles.
    It's presumably why in contrast to recent monarchical trends she won't abdicate. It's a divine duty. I don't agree, but then I don't agree with anyone who believes in destiny or the divine anyway.
    Let's be honest - the whole thing is totally comical and a complete charade.
    I would say that like a lot of human culture it doesn't make a lot of logical sense, but it is a system which, for now, works for this country just fine.
    It is absolutely better than any of the alternatives that have ever been proposed!
  • viewcode said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    It's bizarre. It doesn't take 10 minutes to find out how to securely erase ghost files, but people think (I think) that their computer is an extension of their consciousness and entirely inaccessible to anyone else.

    My problem which is probably common is that I use computers till they fail, and what fails is not necessarily the hard drive. So I end up with a hard drive full of confidential (but not pornographic) material and no way to access and delete it. So I never dare throw a computer away. I suppose I should drive a car over them.

    The methodology of securely disposing of information on PCs crops up frequently. If we assume the person hasn't taken elementary precautions (say, CCleaner + reformatting the disk repeatedly), then there are numerous methods of increasing silliness. Strong magnets are popular but - be honest - where are you getting hold of strong magnets? If we limit ourselves to the equipment that an average house contains, adequate tools would be a screwdriver, adjustable spanners, a drill, and some secateurs. Dissasemble the PC using a screwdriver (see http://www.insidemylaptop.com/), cut up the fragile components with secateurs, wrench apart the more rigid ones with adjustable spanners, and the rigid parts (eg the hard drive) can be rendered unusable by drilling multiple holes in it. If you are of a dramatic frame of mind, then creating a small pile, put them in a saucepan and setting fire to the bits rounds it off perfectly. Dispose of the remains by putting into multiple different bins or throw into a river. Voila.

    It kind of depends who you want to keep your stuff secret from. If you want to keep your embarrassing stuff out of the reach of your loved ones then that should do. If you want to hide your porn from the people who maintain your machine, then cleaners like CCleaner and going thru your downloads folders, clearing your browsing history, etc should be adequate. If you are doing illegal things then you will have to go thru the whole darkweb browsers, alternate identity, >1 PC, never-surf-from-your-house rigmarole, but that's not my field nor interest (I hasten to add). However if you are just worried about leaving financial or personal data on your PC before disposing of your laptop, then the solution is simple: clear it down first, then take it to a local PC repairer , ask them to clear it down, then take it to a charity recycler who will again clear it down then install a new OS on top of it. Voila again.
    Darik's Boot and Nuke Is my weapon of choice.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,273
    edited November 2017


    Also, (re convo earlier on) the iPhone is great IMO. I wouldn’t go out a get the latest one every year though, but I pretty much use it do everything right now. Samsung smartphones leave me feeling meh....
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 10,199
    Charles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Charles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    BBC Reporter: Is it wrong to worry that this crisis is entering a more dangerous stage? The army now seems to have taken Mugabe's side, against his own party, and against the evident determination of those huge crowds who flooded Harare yesterday.

    :D

    Since I have not read an Expanded Universe novels, going just by the movies apart from wasting money on extravagant and poorly designed military projects, Palpatine seems a leader worth voting for - based on the movies prior to his ascension much of the galaxy was entirely lawless including rampant human slavery, which he outlawed. Also, he was legally proclaimed as Emperor by the supreme legislative body after he was about to be summarily executed by a rogue military sect who stated at one point how they might need to 'take control of the senate'.
    Indeed. Palaptine was a democrat, the Jedi were a theocracy like Iran.

    Democracy over religion every time for me.
    Democracy over religion? Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? :D
    I heard the tragedy of the country that made a woman head of state because they thought a sky fairy chose her.
    I don't think that. I just think the system works well enough there's no need to argue with the sky fairy on this one.
    Just wait until we get another Charles I.
    We'll never have such a one again; HMQ might well believe in being divinely chosen to reign, but clearly doesn't believe in a divine right to rule. What we might get is someone who cannot exist within the role as the public is willing to except, at which point public opinion will shift.
    How about a Charles I with George III’s mental health issues.
    For people who like weird stuff:

    George III hair is currently on display at the Wellcome Collection in London (along with Nelson's razor, Darwins walking stick and Florence Nightingale's moccasins)

    Henry Wellcome was a weirdo!
    Could be worse. At least it isn't Henri IV's head or Napoleon's todger.
    One of my ancestors was the guy who pickled napoleans todger!

    (Major Thomas Poppleton)

    And I am the fruit of Napoleon’s loins. 7 degrees of separation, eh!
  • tlg86 said:

    Tony said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?
    Nearly all browsers will save local copies of any images loaded while you're surfing. First step of checking what someone has been up to us to look at the cached images. They'll also store a set of files which identify every website you've been on ever. Any friend should use chromes incognito mode which prevents any local caching.
    I remember explaining to a colleague the official purpose of incognito mode (accessing bank accounts on public computers etc.). And then I told them what it's really for!
    Was it created so all those right on pc types can visit the daily mail website in their lunch hour without the shame of other finding out that is where they get all ththe celeb gossip?
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 938

    viewcode said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    It's bizarre. It doesn't take 10 minutes to find out how to securely erase ghost files, but people think (I think) that their computer is an extension of their consciousness and entirely inaccessible to anyone else.

    My problem which is probably common is that I use computers till they fail, and what fails is not necessarily the hard drive. So I end up with a hard drive full of confidential (but not pornographic) material and no way to access and delete it. So I never dare throw a computer away. I suppose I should drive a car over them.

    The methodology of securely disposing of information on PCs crops up frequently. If we assume the person hasn't taken elementary precautions (say, CCleaner + reformatting the disk repeatedly), then there are numerous methods of increasing silliness. Strong magnets are popular but - be honest - where are you getting hold of strong magnets? If we limit ourselves to the equipment that an average house contains, adequate tools would be a screwdriver, adjustable spanners, a drill, and some secateurs. Dissasemble the PC using a screwdriver (see http://www.insidemylaptop.com/), cut up the fragile components with secateurs, wrench apart the more rigid ones with adjustable spanners, and the rigid parts (eg the hard drive) can be rendered unusable by drilling multiple holes in it. If you are of a dramatic frame of mind, then creating a small pile, put them in a saucepan and setting fire to the bits rounds it off perfectly. Dispose of the remains by putting into multiple different bins or throw into a river. Voila.

    It kind of depends who you want to keep your stuff secret from. If you want to keep your embarrassing stuff out of the reach of your loved ones then that should do. If you want to hide your porn from the people who maintain your machine, then cleaners like CCleaner and going thru your downloads folders, clearing your browsing history, etc should be adequate. If you are doing illegal things then you will have to go thru the whole darkweb browsers, alternate identity, >1 PC, never-surf-from-your-house rigmarole, but that's not my field nor interest (I hasten to add). However if you are just worried about leaving financial or personal data on your PC before disposing of your laptop, then the solution is simple: clear it down first, then take it to a local PC repairer , ask them to clear it down, then take it to a charity recycler who will again clear it down then install a new OS on top of it. Voila again.
    Darik's Boot and Nuke Is my weapon of choice.
    Or as I do with all my old devices, stick 'em in the microwave until they're nice and toasty.

    Then take the hard drives out and gently hammer them into a pulp.

    Seems to have worked so far.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 5,213

    tlg86 said:

    Tony said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    But, does he have porn on his computer?

    Probably not a QTWTAIN.
    Asking for a friend: when these people have porn on their computer, is this usually because they have consciously saved a local copy for offline delectation, or is it traces of online viewing which show up when hard drive recovery tools are used?
    Nearly all browsers will save local copies of any images loaded while you're surfing. First step of checking what someone has been up to us to look at the cached images. They'll also store a set of files which identify every website you've been on ever. Any friend should use chromes incognito mode which prevents any local caching.
    I remember explaining to a colleague the official purpose of incognito mode (accessing bank accounts on public computers etc.). And then I told them what it's really for!
    Was it created so all those right on pc types can visit the daily mail website in their lunch hour without the shame of other finding out that is where they get all ththe celeb gossip?
    Celeb gossip? http://www.agcwebpages.com/BLINDITEMS/MAINPAGE.html

    Daily Mail my arse. Wuss.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 5,213

    viewcode said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    It's bizarre. It doesn't take 10 minutes to find out how to securely erase ghost files, but people think (I think) that their computer is an extension of their consciousness and entirely inaccessible to anyone else.

    My problem which is probably common is that I use computers till they fail, and what fails is not necessarily the hard drive. So I end up with a hard drive full of confidential (but not pornographic) material and no way to access and delete it. So I never dare throw a computer away. I suppose I should drive a car over them.

    The methodology of securely disposing of information on PCs crops up frequently. If we assume the person hasn't taken elementary precautions (say, CCleaner + reformatting the disk repeatedly), then there are numerous methods of increasing silliness. Strong magnets are popular but - be honest - where are you getting hold of strong magnets? If we limit ourselves to the equipment that an average house contains, adequate tools would be a screwdriver, adjustable spanners, a drill, and some secateurs. Dissasemble the PC using a screwdriver (see http://www.insidemylaptop.com/), cut up the fragile components with secateurs, wrench apart the more rigid ones with adjustable spanners, and the rigid parts (eg the hard drive) can be rendered unusable by drilling multiple holes in it. If you are of a dramatic frame of mind, then creating a small pile, put them in a saucepan and setting fire to the bits rounds it off perfectly. Dispose of the remains by putting into multiple different bins or throw into a river. Voila.

    It kind of depends who you want to keep your stuff secret from. If you want to keep your embarrassing stuff out of the reach of your loved ones then that should do. If you want to hide your porn from the people who maintain your machine, then cleaners like CCleaner and going thru your downloads folders, clearing your browsing history, etc should be adequate. If you are doing illegal things then you will have to go thru the whole darkweb browsers, alternate identity, >1 PC, never-surf-from-your-house rigmarole, but that's not my field nor interest (I hasten to add). However if you are just worried about leaving financial or personal data on your PC before disposing of your laptop, then the solution is simple: clear it down first, then take it to a local PC repairer , ask them to clear it down, then take it to a charity recycler who will again clear it down then install a new OS on top of it. Voila again.
    Darik's Boot and Nuke Is my weapon of choice.
    Good to know, thank you
  • kle4 said:
    Donald Trump and his son are really out here killing irony.

    Then there’s this:

  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 5,213
    IanB2 said:

    Good advice, except for throwing bits of metal into a river....

    I was figuring small pieces of metal and a big river.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 22,588
    Re porn on computers.

    Remember this was all a decade or so ago. In those days, some of the more (errr) modern streaming sites didn't exist. You (apparently) went to web page and downloaded a video, which could then be watched at your leisure.

    Or so I have been told.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 18,096
    calum said:
    Zoomers are gonna be busy for a couple of weeks though when Kezia does join the jungle -
    hitting speed-dial to give her yet another feast of kangaroo cock....
  • rcs1000 said:

    Re porn on computers.

    Remember this was all a decade or so ago. In those days, some of the more (errr) modern streaming sites didn't exist. You (apparently) went to web page and downloaded a video, which could then be watched at your leisure.

    Or so I have been told.

    Yeah we forget the average UK broadband speed in 2008 was 3.8Mbps

    In 2016 the average UK broadband speed was 28.9 Mbps.

    I'm told downloading was the only option.
  • calum said:
    Zoomers are gonna be busy for a couple of weeks though when Kezia does join the jungle -
    hitting speed-dial to give her yet another feast of kangaroo cock....
    Some think Kezia Dugdale is going to defect to the SNP.



  • kle4kle4 Posts: 31,692

    rcs1000 said:

    Re porn on computers.

    Remember this was all a decade or so ago. In those days, some of the more (errr) modern streaming sites didn't exist. You (apparently) went to web page and downloaded a video, which could then be watched at your leisure.

    Or so I have been told.

    Yeah we forget the average UK broadband speed in 2008 was 3.8Mbps

    In 2016 the average UK broadband speed was 28.9 Mbps.

    I'm told downloading was the only option.
    I'd always head porn sites were at the forefront of many web innovations, from streaming to online payment and so on. Sounds credible, but I defer to the technical experts.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 5,213
    edited November 2017
    Anyhoo, enough of this trudge thru the depths of human depravity. Here's a video of somebody starting up a nuclear reactor. Cherenkov radiation and a the-lights-so-pretty goddamn blue glow. Ain't life great?.. :)



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  • kle4kle4 Posts: 31,692
    viewcode said:

    Anyhoo, enough of this trudge thru the depths of human depravity.

    Look, I know not everyone is on board with Brexit, but that's a bit much! :)
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 5,213
    kle4 said:

    viewcode said:

    Anyhoo, enough of this trudge thru the depths of human depravity.

    Look, I know not everyone is on board with Brexit, but that's a bit much! :)
    :)
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