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  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 9,989
    First, like Mrs May.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 9,989
    Interesting to see Green next to Mrs May today. That's a good sign, right?
  • May does seem more confident
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 5,544
    theresa rattled
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 9,989

    May does seem more confident

    She does. It's good news.
  • Mortimer said:

    Interesting to see Green next to Mrs May today. That's a good sign, right?

    Nope, it was Cabinet Office questions before PMQs, so he had to be there, and would have attracted more attention had he left.

    As an aside I backed Green as next out of the cabinet this morning.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 20,812

    May does seem more confident

    Its just far too easy. Corbyn has gone backwards to his early efforts. Really, really poor.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 9,989
    She's on fire today.

    Corbyn doesn't seem to listen, or care about her responses. He can't seem to connect two issues at all, let alone cleverly or wittily.
  • One of Corbyn's poorer performances.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 20,812
    Now we have the summary ignoring every answer he has had. Its pathetic.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 13,660
    Corbyn just not as good as he has been.

    Shrill, ineffective.
  • Mortimer said:

    She's on fire today.

    Corbyn doesn't seem to listen, or care about her responses. He can't seem to connect two issues at all, let alone cleverly or wittily.

    He will do the same in response to Hammond.

    He is far too shouty
  • One of Corbyn's poorer performances.

    Doesn't bode well for his performance in responding to the budget in the next 90 mins or so.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 10,199
    What is it with May? You'd have thought that the one thing any aspiring PM would have learnt from recent British politics is that PMs and Chancellors have to have a good relationship, that one must not undermine the other, that arguments should be kept private.

    And yet, ever since she chose him, May has allowed Hammond to be undermined.

    The woman really is totally inept.

    Anyway off for a bit. Need to earn some money to pay for some expensive electrical work in my kitchen.

    Later......
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 13,660
    Bingo there's fit for the future again.
  • TonyETonyE Posts: 938
    Now we know why Corbyn hasn't been going with Brexit. He doesn't really understand the subject.
  • TM to Corbyn 'Blast from the past' - touche
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 13,660
    I might not be as optimistic as Tezza but I think I want a PM who is.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 5,544
    fail by jezza, shouty peroration not convincing at all.
  • TonyE said:

    Now we know why Corbyn hasn't been going with Brexit. He doesn't really understand the subject.

    Is that cos he might be a bit thick?
  • FensterFenster Posts: 1,605
    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 20,812
    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 18,570
    U can’t touch @TSE’s headlines!
  • DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Or replace him
  • Is Philip Hammond too legit to quit?
  • TonyETonyE Posts: 938
    SNP making something out of nothing - 7% of those staff were British, and apparently none of them paid UK tax (they exist in the EU tax system outside domestic taxation).

    Also, the 7% might well find themselves a role in the UK Medicines Agency , which will no doubt expand.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 18,570

    One of Corbyn's poorer performances.

    Doesn't bode well for his performance in responding to the budget in the next 90 mins or so.
    Last year he didn’t even try and pretend he’d read the speech, just went with a 20 minute off the hoof speech against the evils of capitalism and the terrible Tories.
  • Is Sourby sat right next to Bernard Jenkins on back row?

    The small talk must be somewhat strained...
  • TonyETonyE Posts: 938

    TonyE said:

    Now we know why Corbyn hasn't been going with Brexit. He doesn't really understand the subject.

    Is that cos he might be a bit thick?
    Because in reality, he doesn't care that much about it, as Nick Palmer has consistently told us.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 28,916
    edited November 2017
    Didn't Mc Hammer blow all his fortune and end up bankrupt? Hopefully UK version doesn't do the same to the UK economy!
  • Sandpit said:

    One of Corbyn's poorer performances.

    Doesn't bode well for his performance in responding to the budget in the next 90 mins or so.
    Last year he didn’t even try and pretend he’d read the speech, just went with a 20 minute off the hoof speech against the evils of capitalism and the terrible Tories.
    Will be same no doubt. Lots of shouting about foodbanks and UC rental arrears.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 20,812

    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Or replace him
    Yes, one or the other. There is going to be some good news on housing in the budget and she can't resist having a patsy question set up so she can steal her own Chancellor's thunder. Teamwork it ain't.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 18,570

    Is Philip Hammond too legit to quit?

    Very good :D
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 6,209

    One of Corbyn's poorer performances.

    Doesn't bode well for his performance in responding to the budget in the next 90 mins or so.
    Speaks to his ability - or lack of it - to multitask.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 28,916
    edited November 2017

    Sandpit said:

    One of Corbyn's poorer performances.

    Doesn't bode well for his performance in responding to the budget in the next 90 mins or so.
    Last year he didn’t even try and pretend he’d read the speech, just went with a 20 minute off the hoof speech against the evils of capitalism and the terrible Tories.
    Will be same no doubt. Lots of shouting about foodbanks and UC rental arrears.
    Got to be Paradise papers, Queenie, BrightHouse, tax dodging (even though she doesn't)...
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 45,077
    edited November 2017
    Take your time Phil



    I've bought at a pound a minute on 54.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 20,812
    My local MP pointing out what a chronically poor connection I get to broadband. Thanks for that.
  • Is Philip Hammond too legit to quit?

    Chapeau
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 15,130
    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Hammond is completely bereft of imagination. I don't blame her for wanting rid of him. The problem arises when you try and replace him. There is no obvious successor.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 20,812
    MaxPB said:

    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Hammond is completely bereft of imagination. I don't blame her for wanting rid of him. The problem arises when you try and replace him. There is no obvious successor.
    Gove. Obvious. If it means that, say Fox, gets the boot to keep some sort of balance that would just be a bonus.
  • DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Hammond is completely bereft of imagination. I don't blame her for wanting rid of him. The problem arises when you try and replace him. There is no obvious successor.
    Gove. Obvious. If it means that, say Fox, gets the boot to keep some sort of balance that would just be a bonus.
    Gove can't stop plotting, even Leavers are getting pissed off at him.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 6,209
    MaxPB said:

    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Hammond is completely bereft of imagination. I don't blame her for wanting rid of him. The problem arises when you try and replace him. There is no obvious successor.
    So instead undermine someone you think is struggling, without any plan to replace him ?

    Don't think the PM is much cop at strategy...
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 5,544
    There is not much point backbenchers asking shouty angry questions about the big picture, because the PM can always wriggle out if there is no chance of a follow up q. Much better all round to ask specific question about a constituent.
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 5,575
    Slam dunk for tmay over female black rod.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 20,812

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Hammond is completely bereft of imagination. I don't blame her for wanting rid of him. The problem arises when you try and replace him. There is no obvious successor.
    Gove. Obvious. If it means that, say Fox, gets the boot to keep some sort of balance that would just be a bonus.
    Gove can't stop plotting, even Leavers are getting pissed off at him.
    Well give him enough to do.
  • DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Hammond is completely bereft of imagination. I don't blame her for wanting rid of him. The problem arises when you try and replace him. There is no obvious successor.
    Gove. Obvious. If it means that, say Fox, gets the boot to keep some sort of balance that would just be a bonus.
    The trouble with Gove is he would immediately start something horrendously radical like merging tax and NI, just as we are entering the worst of the Brexit clusterf***.
  • Pulpstar said:

    Take your time Phil



    I've bought at a pound a minute on 54.

    Bring back Gladstone.

  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 21,874
    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Hammond is completely bereft of imagination. I don't blame her for wanting rid of him. The problem arises when you try and replace him. There is no obvious successor.
    Gove. Obvious. If it means that, say Fox, gets the boot to keep some sort of balance that would just be a bonus.
    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Hammond is completely bereft of imagination. I don't blame her for wanting rid of him. The problem arises when you try and replace him. There is no obvious successor.
    Gove. Obvious. If it means that, say Fox, gets the boot to keep some sort of balance that would just be a bonus.
    Or John Redwood.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 15,130
    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Hammond is completely bereft of imagination. I don't blame her for wanting rid of him. The problem arises when you try and replace him. There is no obvious successor.
    Gove. Obvious. If it means that, say Fox, gets the boot to keep some sort of balance that would just be a bonus.
    Oh God, please not Gove.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 20,812

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Hammond is completely bereft of imagination. I don't blame her for wanting rid of him. The problem arises when you try and replace him. There is no obvious successor.
    Gove. Obvious. If it means that, say Fox, gets the boot to keep some sort of balance that would just be a bonus.
    The trouble with Gove is he would immediately start something horrendously radical like merging tax and NI, just as we are entering the worst of the Brexit clusterf***.
    We have been promised that for more than a decade now. It requires someone like Gove to deliver it.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Spreadsheet Phil is the only one in the cabinet that I would vote for. He is the only one who takes the financial implications of current policies seriously.

    I like him. Hostage to fortune for later...
  • On the idea of length of time, didn't we only have a Budget about six months ago by the current Chancellor? Surely it would be reasonable for this to be a shorter and simpler budget than normal?
  • On the idea of length of time, didn't we only have a Budget about six months ago by the current Chancellor? Surely it would be reasonable for this to be a shorter and simpler budget than normal?

    :lol:
  • DavidL said:

    We have been promised that for more than a decade now. It requires someone like Gove to deliver it.

    Yes, but not just now, and certainly not as a minority government. You need a big majority to do stuff like that, and a booming economy.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 18,570
    edited November 2017

    Slam dunk for tmay over female black rod.

    What did she say, witty joke about the Labour party’s record on female leaders?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 45,077

    On the idea of length of time, didn't we only have a Budget about six months ago by the current Chancellor? Surely it would be reasonable for this to be a shorter and simpler budget than normal?

    You can back sub 52 minutes if you like... You pays yer money and takes yer choice ^_^
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 15,130
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Hammond is completely bereft of imagination. I don't blame her for wanting rid of him. The problem arises when you try and replace him. There is no obvious successor.
    Gove. Obvious. If it means that, say Fox, gets the boot to keep some sort of balance that would just be a bonus.
    The trouble with Gove is he would immediately start something horrendously radical like merging tax and NI, just as we are entering the worst of the Brexit clusterf***.
    We have been promised that for more than a decade now. It requires someone like Gove to deliver it.
    Gove won't deliver it though, he'll just piss everyone off and start plotting to become leader.
  • JonathanDJonathanD Posts: 2,117
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Hammond is completely bereft of imagination. I don't blame her for wanting rid of him. The problem arises when you try and replace him. There is no obvious successor.
    Gove. Obvious. If it means that, say Fox, gets the boot to keep some sort of balance that would just be a bonus.
    The trouble with Gove is he would immediately start something horrendously radical like merging tax and NI, just as we are entering the worst of the Brexit clusterf***.
    We have been promised that for more than a decade now. It requires someone like Gove to deliver it.
    If Brexit hadn't happened, Osborne would probably have scheduled it for some point between 2015 and 2020. Too much else going on now and too little money to spare to be able to smooth over the short term inconsistencies merging the two would bring about.
  • DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Hammond is completely bereft of imagination. I don't blame her for wanting rid of him. The problem arises when you try and replace him. There is no obvious successor.
    Gove. Obvious. If it means that, say Fox, gets the boot to keep some sort of balance that would just be a bonus.
    The trouble with Gove is he would immediately start something horrendously radical like merging tax and NI, just as we are entering the worst of the Brexit clusterf***.
    We have been promised that for more than a decade now. It requires someone like Gove to deliver it.
    Using a new multi-million pound IT system that will be up and running within six months no doubt.
  • I see Twitter Trump is back on the sports outrage this morning.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 20,812

    DavidL said:

    We have been promised that for more than a decade now. It requires someone like Gove to deliver it.

    Yes, but not just now, and certainly not as a minority government. You need a big majority to do stuff like that, and a booming economy.
    Then it may not happen. Which will do nothing to rebalance taxation between the young and the old.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 45,077
    Can the rest of the MPs top asking these nonsense questions ?

    It is Phil's big day !
  • FensterFenster Posts: 1,605
    Completely disagree with May on drugs. Shows how sheltered she is.
  • Sandpit said:

    Slam dunk for tmay over female black rod.

    What did she say, witty joke about the Labour party’s record on female leaders?
    Hope it is not another 650 years before labour elects a female leader
  • Pulpstar said:

    Can the rest of the MPs top asking these nonsense questions ?

    It is Phil's big day !

    As usual Speaker is allowing this to drag on way beyond the 30 mins.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 18,570
    edited November 2017

    Sandpit said:

    Slam dunk for tmay over female black rod.

    What did she say, witty joke about the Labour party’s record on female leaders?
    Hope it is not another 650 years before labour elects a female leader
    Ouch! That would have gone down rather well with her own back benches.

    Spreadsheet Phil not up yet?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 45,077
    And he's off !
  • Pulpstar said:

    And he's off !

    I've got the stopwatch out.
  • Pulpstar said:

    On the idea of length of time, didn't we only have a Budget about six months ago by the current Chancellor? Surely it would be reasonable for this to be a shorter and simpler budget than normal?

    You can back sub 52 minutes if you like... You pays yer money and takes yer choice ^_^
    I'm not saying I expect it, just what would be reasonable.

    Sadly it seems to common at these events that politicians decide they have to Do Something on everything even if they Did Something just a few months ago.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 20,812
    He must have about 20 words on a page.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 18,422
    edited November 2017
    Kerching. I think! 'Economy' as first word from Paddy's list.
  • 3 billion for Brexit
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 20,812
    £3bn for WTO. Tick
  • Brexit, kerching
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 18,570
    DavidL said:

    £3bn for WTO. Tick

    Good news, well done!
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 15,130
    Can't watch live. Hopefully I win on the bingo.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 20,812
    Fenster said:

    Completely disagree with May on drugs. Shows how sheltered she is.

    +1. The results of the war are in. We lost.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 21,874

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    I haven't seen PMQs in ages and I'm no fan on May but she looks confident. Even cocksure.

    Must be the 'nothing to lose' mentality.

    Likewise. Don't normally bother but here for the budget. She is looking quite robust. If only she would learn to work with her Chancellor...
    Hammond is completely bereft of imagination. I don't blame her for wanting rid of him. The problem arises when you try and replace him. There is no obvious successor.
    Gove. Obvious. If it means that, say Fox, gets the boot to keep some sort of balance that would just be a bonus.
    The trouble with Gove is he would immediately start something horrendously radical like merging tax and NI, just as we are entering the worst of the Brexit clusterf***.
    We have been promised that for more than a decade now. It requires someone like Gove to deliver it.
    Using a new multi-million pound IT system that will be up and running within six months no doubt.
    Merging income tax and national insurance is one of those logical policies that would be politically disastrous.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 20,812
    Bet that read quite well. Pity about the monotone delivery.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 45,077
    DavidL said:

    He must have about 20 words on a page.

    Worrying how fast he is getting through those pages !
  • Fit for the future, kerching
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 18,570
    MaxPB said:

    Can't watch live. Hopefully I win on the bingo.

    Same here. I’m on ‘Venezuela’ as a joke.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 45,077
    Can the oppo heckle a bit ?
  • That's pure comedy.
  • That's pure comedy.

    Really funny
  • Fit for the future, kerching

    Well played, sir. I wouldn't have gone for that one.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 18,570
    DavidL said:

    Fenster said:

    Completely disagree with May on drugs. Shows how sheltered she is.

    +1. The results of the war are in. We lost.
    Yep. Drugs policy should either be like Amsterdam and Portugal, or like Bangkok and Dubai. A muddling middle way doesn’t work.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 9,989
    ECONOMICKY!!!
  • Poor Shadsy, Hammond just said Economicky, at 16/1
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 9,989
    edited November 2017
    Did anyone get on that at 25/1???

    Edit, 16/1
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 13,660
    A bit PM-y from Phil.
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 822
    lol loved that lozenge bit. Great to see May taking part in it with the prop lol.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Economicky!

    Hammond is trying to ruin Shadsys Christmas.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 20,812
    Mortimer said:

    ECONOMICKY!!!

    He must have read the list. Bad news for Ladbrooks Christmas party.
  • Has someone in Hammond's office opened a Ladbrokes account recently, I wonder?
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 9,989
    DavidL said:

    Mortimer said:

    ECONOMICKY!!!

    He must have read the list. Bad news for Ladbrooks Christmas party.
    That would be hilarious.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 15,130
    Oh man I wavered on that one. Balls.
  • The Deputy Speaker makes The Speaker seem brilliant
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