Utterly OT aside, but curious about this: how many people have bought any sideline merchandise related to a big franchise (Star Wars, Game of Thrones etc) as a Christmas present? Even if it's a tiny thing like a bookmark.
Have bought in recent years for Christmas the Star Wars Lego stuff, have also bought some Last Jedi bed sheets and pillow as gifts.
Am sure have bought other stuff too like costumes and other toy.
Mr. Eagles, got to admit, you were probably the chap I thought likeliest to have done so.
Just that I got some Game of Thrones thingummyjigs for someone this year and was very surprised by the enormous range of stuff available. Notebooks, pins, letter openers, coasters, mugs, clothing, etc etc.
Utterly OT aside, but curious about this: how many people have bought any sideline merchandise related to a big franchise (Star Wars, Game of Thrones etc) as a Christmas present? Even if it's a tiny thing like a bookmark.
Nothing.
I felt decidedly under dressed at The Last Jedi screening, as I was wearing neither a R2-D2 jumper, nor a fluffy Chewbacca onesie like some of the other cinemagoers
I'm sceptical that a penny either way on the rate of Scottish tax is going to make all that much difference to behaviours.
If it was a one off I would agree but we already pay HRT from a lower base and there is a clear determination to make our system (a) different from England and (b) more aggressively "progressive" penalising the top earners. Housing costs are an important set off between, say, Edinburgh and London, but there are a lot of top Scottish taxpayers who commute to London already for much of the week. Moving south of the border may become more attractive if this persists. It won't take many to make this nonsense counter productive.
The housing costs of London might be something to offset but places like Manchester, Leeds or Birmingham could start looking more relatively attractive.
The sad thing is that Scotland should be doing the exact opposite. We have been losing higher paid financial sector jobs ever since the Indyref got people nervous. We urgently need to attract more of the back office functions back to Scotland and build on what was a traditional strength. I don't think suggesting that their staff will be paying more tax than in Newcastle or Manchester exactly helps that drive.
But then wealth creation seems to be something pretty dirty in Scotland. Our government is obsessed with what it can spend. It is apparently indifferent to the possibilities of growth. Its pretty grim.
You will be ok if Corbyn get in then.
Well, I suppose our competitive disadvantage may disappear. Unfortunately, I fear other problems in our largest market that may well create other issues!
David why do you think the SNP have done it now after all these years in power.?
Because the Greens told them too and they are feeling more pressure on their left flank from SLAB.
I also think it reflects recognition that Indyref2 is off the table for the time being so just running the government in a way that does as little to offend people as possible is no longer sustainable. Nicola is, I think, more left leaning than Salmond was and more conscious that her power base in the central belt is too.
@isaby: Popcorn at the ready: just recorded a discussion on last night's Brexit vote with Ken Clarke to be broadcast on tonight's @Channel4News from 7pm on, er, Channel 4...
I'm sceptical that a penny either way on the rate of Scottish tax is going to make all that much difference to behaviours.
If it was a one off I would agree but we already pay HRT from a lower base and there is a clear determination to make our system (a) different from England and (b) more aggressively "progressive" penalising the top earners. Housing costs are an important set off between, say, Edinburgh and London, but there are a lot of top Scottish taxpayers who commute to London already for much of the week. Moving south of the border may become more attractive if this persists. It won't take many to make this nonsense counter productive.
The housing costs of London might be something to offset but places like Manchester, Leeds or Birmingham could start looking more relatively attractive.
The sad thing is that Scotland should be doing the exact opposite. We have been losing higher paid financial sector jobs ever since the Indyref got people nervous. We urgently need to attract more of the back office functions back to Scotland and build on what was a traditional strength. I don't think suggesting that their staff will be paying more tax than in Newcastle or Manchester exactly helps that drive.
But then wealth creation seems to be something pretty dirty in Scotland. Our government is obsessed with what it can spend. It is apparently indifferent to the possibilities of growth. Its pretty grim.
You will be ok if Corbyn get in then.
Well, I suppose our competitive disadvantage may disappear. Unfortunately, I fear other problems in our largest market that may well create other issues!
David why do you think the SNP have done it now after all these years in power.?
Because the Greens told them too and they are feeling more pressure on their left flank from SLAB.
I also think it reflects recognition that Indyref2 is off the table for the time being so just running the government in a way that does as little to offend people as possible is no longer sustainable. Nicola is, I think, more left leaning than Salmond was and more conscious that her power base in the central belt is too.
Couldn't put it better myself - to me, last night looks like a subversion of democracy, not a healthy expression of it.
To quote a prominent Leaver of this parish "Fuck off, Please, just fuck off"
Either you believe in Parliamentary democracy, the representatives voting their conscience in the best interests of their constituents, or you don't
This "only when I agree with them" crap is another poisonous residue of the campaign of bullshit.
"We have had enough of experts" and "MPs voting the way we don't like"
You won. This is what parliamentary Sovereignty looks like. Suck it up.
If you want to look stupid and dishonest, keep saying "We have had enough of experts" as if it was what Gove said. Otherwise, stop.
To be fair Scott only has to open his mouth to look stupid and dishonest.
Nah ah (sp?)
Gove is no fool. He may have said XXXX now XXXX is XXXX XXX X XXXXXXXXX XXXXXX not XXXXXXX XX XXXXX the XXXXXXXX time XX XXXXX XX X XXXXXXXX X for XXXX XX XXXXXX experts.
But he knows how politics works (moreso than @Ishmael_Z and apparently you) and he knew exactly what the takeaways would be and lo they were the ones he wanted them to be.
Utterly OT aside, but curious about this: how many people have bought any sideline merchandise related to a big franchise (Star Wars, Game of Thrones etc) as a Christmas present? Even if it's a tiny thing like a bookmark.
Nothing.
I felt decidedly under dressed at The Last Jedi screening, as I was wearing neither a R2-D2 jumper, nor a fluffy Chewbacca onesie like some of the other cinemagoers
Finally Scott, something we completely agree on. Although I fear my wife will produce some GoT stuff for my daughter...
Ouch. That's another £1500 on my tax bill. I fear it may be worse if they repeat their trick of not indexing the bands as well. Who'd want to make money in Scotland if they could anywhere else?
Well, you must be on £174k+ - you can probably afford it!
Glad you think so. Other peoples' money, eh?
This won't be the end of it,more of your money will be needed with a SNP/labour swap about ;-)
Ouch. That's another £1500 on my tax bill. I fear it may be worse if they repeat their trick of not indexing the bands as well. Who'd want to make money in Scotland if they could anywhere else?
Well, you must be on £174k+ - you can probably afford it!
Glad you think so. Other peoples' money, eh?
This won't be the end of it,more of your money will be needed with a SNP/labour swap about ;-)
Cheers. I suppose there had to be some counterbalance for England finally having a good day in Aus.
Surely Income Tax is administered UK wide now - the Scottish Govt doesn't get the income tax paid by all individual Scots - it gets a block amount determined by Barnett formula.
Will the Scottish Govt just, effectively, get a "cheque from HMRC" for the tax differential - ie 1% on income above £24k minus 1% on income below £13,850?
Utterly OT aside, but curious about this: how many people have bought any sideline merchandise related to a big franchise (Star Wars, Game of Thrones etc) as a Christmas present? Even if it's a tiny thing like a bookmark.
l have a rather attactive jumper for the staff party:
Sky just did a report from an Eyemouth Fish processor where two employees were interviewed. One lives in Eyemouth, the other in Berwick so one pays more tax than the other for doing the same job. The Eyemouth employee distinctly unimpressed.
Creates good space for Ruth Davidson to strengthen support for the Scons
May of course did not flinch when she really did face an assassination threat recently.
I should think most tube users have better things to do than plot the murder of the MP for Streatham if any of them actually recognised him anyway
"most" is not good enough. It only takes one. Since Britain had an MP killed by a far right lunatic only last year, his fear seems reasonable.
If anything even he had longer links with the Far Right than protesting about Brexit and that is one out of 17 million. Despite continued attempts of some Remainers to frustrate the biggest post-war vote in our history almost all Leave voters have remained law abiding and restrained
I should imagine medium to large houses on the English side of Berwick will be popular with estate agents as middle to high earners flee Nat tax bombshell - a ratchet that will no doubt tighten year on year.
The stamp duty is cheaper in England too for medium sized houses so a double whammy.
Sky just did a report from an Eyemouth Fish processor where two employees were interviewed. One lives in Eyemouth, the other in Berwick so one pays more tax than the other for doing the same job. The Eyemouth employee distinctly unimpressed.
Creates good space for Ruth Davidson to strengthen support for the Scons
Over 33 grand for fish processing? Blimey.
of course the lower paid staff will be taxed less on the North side of the border...
Dominic Grieve saying he has received death threats after yesterday's vote.He has reported them to the police..Truly crazy.
Agreed. And lectures on party discipline from the camp of IDS and other b******* who did so much to undermine and damage John Major's government reek of hypocrisy and cant. We all need to calm down a bit.
May of course did not flinch when she really did face an assassination threat recently.
I should think most tube users have better things to do than plot the murder of the MP for Streatham if any of them actually recognised him anyway
"most" is not good enough. It only takes one. Since Britain had an MP killed by a far right lunatic only last year, his fear seems reasonable.
If anything even he had longer links with the Far Right than protesting about Brexit and that is one out of 17 million. Despite continued attempts of some Remainers to frustrate the biggest post-war vote in our history almost all Leave voters have remained law abiding and restrained
A quarter of reports to Prevent are in relation to far right extremists. It's not surprising when newspapers and commentators routinely label opponents as traitors and saboteurs.
Meanwhile, the so-called moderate Leavers stay silent.
Utterly OT aside, but curious about this: how many people have bought any sideline merchandise related to a big franchise (Star Wars, Game of Thrones etc) as a Christmas present? Even if it's a tiny thing like a bookmark.
l have a rather attactive jumper for the staff party:
There's a lot of it on the internet. A Call of Duty developer (and his family) received death threats after he minutely tweaked reload times on guns to try and better balance the game.
Hopefully we can have a proper, orderly departure and then rifts can heal.
May of course did not flinch when she really did face an assassination threat recently.
I should think most tube users have better things to do than plot the murder of the MP for Streatham if any of them actually recognised him anyway
"most" is not good enough. It only takes one. Since Britain had an MP killed by a far right lunatic only last year, his fear seems reasonable.
If anything even he had longer links with the Far Right than protesting about Brexit and that is one out of 17 million. Despite continued attempts of some Remainers to frustrate the biggest post-war vote in our history almost all Leave voters have remained law abiding and restrained
A quarter of reports to Prevent are in relation to far right extremists. It's not surprising when newspapers and commentators routinely label opponents as traitors and saboteurs.
Meanwhile, the so-called moderate Leavers stay silent.
The Far right was there well before Brexit, 52% of voters are not the Far right
Utterly OT aside, but curious about this: how many people have bought any sideline merchandise related to a big franchise (Star Wars, Game of Thrones etc) as a Christmas present? Even if it's a tiny thing like a bookmark.
l have a rather attactive jumper for the staff party:
You going on the pull, like? I had an "I am your father" T shirt from my kids a couple of years ago. Not had a lot of wear...
I shall not only show off my sartorial elegance, but also throw some moves on the dancefloor. It is the role of senior staff to provide amusement and gossip to the juniors!
Couldn't put it better myself - to me, last night looks like a subversion of democracy, not a healthy expression of it.
To quote a prominent Leaver of this parish "Fuck off, Please, just fuck off"
Either you believe in Parliamentary democracy, the representatives voting their conscience in the best interests of their constituents, or you don't
This "only when I agree with them" crap is another poisonous residue of the campaign of bullshit.
"We have had enough of experts" and "MPs voting the way we don't like"
You won. This is what parliamentary Sovereignty looks like. Suck it up.
If you want to look stupid and dishonest, keep saying "We have had enough of experts" as if it was what Gove said. Otherwise, stop.
To be fair Scott only has to open his mouth to look stupid and dishonest.
Nah ah (sp?)
Gove is no fool. He may have said XXXX now XXXX is XXXX XXX X XXXXXXXXX XXXXXX not XXXXXXX XX XXXXX the XXXXXXXX time XX XXXXX XX X XXXXXXXX X for XXXX XX XXXXXX experts.
But he knows how politics works (moreso than @Ishmael_Z and apparently you) and he knew exactly what the takeaways would be and lo they were the ones he wanted them to be.
we are seeing more and more of these WAKE UP SHEEPLE posts which explain that the way things look is just there to fool the little people - the dummies who think that "accession talks" means talks designed to lead to accession, and so on, and frankly you can either take it to zerohedge where it belongs, or stick it where the sun don't shine. You like Scott are too grand to stoop to actually watching what happened before commenting on it; if you did it would be quite clear to you that Gove was needled into saying what he said (which is why he said it in a way open to distortion by shouty Faisal); it was quite obviously entirely unprepared.
Utterly OT aside, but curious about this: how many people have bought any sideline merchandise related to a big franchise (Star Wars, Game of Thrones etc) as a Christmas present? Even if it's a tiny thing like a bookmark.
Nothing.
I felt decidedly under dressed at The Last Jedi screening, as I was wearing neither a R2-D2 jumper, nor a fluffy Chewbacca onesie like some of the other cinemagoers
Finally Scott, something we completely agree on. Although I fear my wife will produce some GoT stuff for my daughter...
I can't immediately think what GoT spinoffs would make satisfactory presents. A model of Reek's thingy in a presentation box?
I should imagine medium to large houses on the English side of Berwick will be popular with estate agents as middle to high earners flee Nat tax bombshell - a ratchet that will no doubt tighten year on year.
The stamp duty is cheaper in England too for medium sized houses so a double whammy.
Utterly OT aside, but curious about this: how many people have bought any sideline merchandise related to a big franchise (Star Wars, Game of Thrones etc) as a Christmas present? Even if it's a tiny thing like a bookmark.
Nothing.
I felt decidedly under dressed at The Last Jedi screening, as I was wearing neither a R2-D2 jumper, nor a fluffy Chewbacca onesie like some of the other cinemagoers
Finally Scott, something we completely agree on. Although I fear my wife will produce some GoT stuff for my daughter...
I can't immediately think what GoT spinoffs would make satisfactory presents. A model of Reek's thingy in a presentation box?
Dominic Grieve saying he has received death threats after yesterday's vote.He has reported them to the police..Truly crazy.
Agreed. And lectures on party discipline from the camp of IDS and other b******* who did so much to undermine and damage John Major's government reek of hypocrisy and cant. We all need to calm down a bit.
It is time someone on twitter who sends a death threat received a stupendously long prison sentence to really get the message across on all this.
I should imagine medium to large houses on the English side of Berwick will be popular with estate agents as middle to high earners flee Nat tax bombshell - a ratchet that will no doubt tighten year on year.
The stamp duty is cheaper in England too for medium sized houses so a double whammy.
Nevertheless the transaction costs of moving house, particularly at the upper end of the market, would take years to recouo, particularly if the difference in income tax is offset by other costs such as a longer commute.
Not if you are moving house anyway or you don't already live there.
Anyone moving to a decently paid job in Scotland would be well worth investigating commuting from England - this Nat tax is only going to get worse.
* Stamp duty * income tax * minimum alcohol pricing.
Utterly OT aside, but curious about this: how many people have bought any sideline merchandise related to a big franchise (Star Wars, Game of Thrones etc) as a Christmas present? Even if it's a tiny thing like a bookmark.
Nothing.
I felt decidedly under dressed at The Last Jedi screening, as I was wearing neither a R2-D2 jumper, nor a fluffy Chewbacca onesie like some of the other cinemagoers
Finally Scott, something we completely agree on. Although I fear my wife will produce some GoT stuff for my daughter...
I can't immediately think what GoT spinoffs would make satisfactory presents. A model of Reek's thingy in a presentation box?
Some Walking Dead Lego would be good, though.
Some Trivia type game is the best bet, provided you can get enough people who have actually watched it. We always end up playing some quiz type game after the Christmas dinner. As the kids, nieces and nephews get older GoT is a possibility.
Dominic Grieve saying he has received death threats after yesterday's vote.He has reported them to the police..Truly crazy.
Agreed. And lectures on party discipline from the camp of IDS and other b******* who did so much to undermine and damage John Major's government reek of hypocrisy and cant. We all need to calm down a bit.
Very true.In retrospect , I think Major got a brilliant deal at Maastricht.However back in 1992 , I was struggling with a mortgage and the interest rates were eye watering, so I was not taking much notice on EU affairs.
Couldn't put it better myself - to me, last night looks like a subversion of democracy, not a healthy expression of it.
To quote a prominent Leaver of this parish "Fuck off, Please, just fuck off"
Either you believe in Parliamentary democracy, the representatives voting their conscience in the best interests of their constituents, or you don't
This "only when I agree with them" crap is another poisonous residue of the campaign of bullshit.
"We have had enough of experts" and "MPs voting the way we don't like"
You won. This is what parliamentary Sovereignty looks like. Suck it up.
If you want to look stupid and dishonest, keep saying "We have had enough of experts" as if it was what Gove said. Otherwise, stop.
To be fair Scott only has to open his mouth to look stupid and dishonest.
Nah ah (sp?)
Gove is no fool. He may have said XXXX now XXXX is XXXX XXX X XXXXXXXXX XXXXXX not XXXXXXX XX XXXXX the XXXXXXXX time XX XXXXX XX X XXXXXXXX X for XXXX XX XXXXXX experts.
But he knows how politics works (moreso than @Ishmael_Z and apparently you) and he knew exactly what the takeaways would be and lo they were the ones he wanted them to be.
we are seeing more and more of these WAKE UP SHEEPLE posts which explain that the way things look is just there to fool the little people - the dummies who think that "accession talks" means talks designed to lead to accession, and so on, and frankly you can either take it to zerohedge where it belongs, or stick it where the sun don't shine. You like Scott are too grand to stoop to actually watching what happened before commenting on it; if you did it would be quite clear to you that Gove was needled into saying what he said (which is why he said it in a way open to distortion by shouty Faisal); it was quite obviously entirely unprepared.
Again you display your naivety. "Gove was needled into saying what he said" - ROTFLMAO.
Poor lickle Mikey. That nasty Faisal Islam shame on him. If Gove can't control what comes out of his mouth in a media interview, then it's much worse than we thought. No. He, like all senior politicians, has vast experience with shouty interviewers. And as such, he knew exactly what he was doing. He was appealing to a group of people, perhaps including you, for whom such railing against authority was music to their ears and then it became a Thing during the campaign.
Jeez and you are contributing to a political blog.
Dominic Grieve saying he has received death threats after yesterday's vote.He has reported them to the police..Truly crazy.
Agreed. And lectures on party discipline from the camp of IDS and other b******* who did so much to undermine and damage John Major's government reek of hypocrisy and cant. We all need to calm down a bit.
Very true.In retrospect , I think Major got a brilliant deal at Maastricht.However back in 1992 , I was struggling with a mortgage and the interest rates were eye watering, so I was not taking much notice on EU affairs.
Of course one of the reasons they were eye watering was Major's desire to retain the link to the DM... I remember on Black Wednesday leaving home to go to Wick for a court case the next day. IIRC my monthly mortgage payments went up something like 25% during the journey. It took a long time to be persuaded that the government knew what the hell they were doing after that.
Dominic Grieve saying he has received death threats after yesterday's vote.He has reported them to the police..Truly crazy.
Agreed. And lectures on party discipline from the camp of IDS and other b******* who did so much to undermine and damage John Major's government reek of hypocrisy and cant. We all need to calm down a bit.
It is time someone on twitter who sends a death threat received a stupendously long prison sentence to really get the message across on all this.
Well said.Surely the law is there to do this.I remember answering a question badly when studying for my degree.It was.why is the sentence different for attempted murder and murder ? The intention been the same only the outcome different due to various reasons.
Hmm not sure how to put it into context of Radiohead, but it's not nearly as good as 7 and R1. It sits between 3 and 6 in terms of quality. Better than the prequels, but not as good as the originals.
Couldn't put it better myself - to me, last night looks like a subversion of democracy, not a healthy expression of it.
To quote a prominent Leaver of this parish "Fuck off, Please, just fuck off"
Either you believe in Parliamentary democracy, the representatives voting their conscience in the best interests of their constituents, or you don't
This "only when I agree with them" crap is another poisonous residue of the campaign of bullshit.
"We have had enough of experts" and "MPs voting the way we don't like"
You won. This is what parliamentary Sovereignty looks like. Suck it up.
If you want to look stupid and dishonest, keep saying "We have had enough of experts" as if it was what Gove said. Otherwise, stop.
To be fair Scott only has to open his mouth to look stupid and dishonest.
Nah ah (sp?)
Gove is no fool. He may have said XXXX now XXXX is XXXX XXX X XXXXXXXXX XXXXXX not XXXXXXX XX XXXXX the XXXXXXXX time XX XXXXX XX X XXXXXXXX X for XXXX XX XXXXXX experts.
But he knows how politics works (moreso than @Ishmael_Z and apparently you) and he knew exactly what the takeaways would be and lo they were the ones he wanted them to be.
we are seeing more and more of these WAKE UP SHEEPLE posts which explain that the way things look is just there to fool the little people - the dummies who think that "accession talks" means talks designed to lead to accession, and so on, and frankly you can either take it to zerohedge where it belongs, or stick it where the sun don't shine. You like Scott are too grand to stoop to actually watching what happened before commenting on it; if you did it would be quite clear to you that Gove was needled into saying what he said (which is why he said it in a way open to distortion by shouty Faisal); it was quite obviously entirely unprepared.
Again you display your naivety. "Gove was needled into saying what he said" - ROTFLMAO.
Poor lickle Mikey. That nasty Faisal Islam shame on him. If Gove can't control what comes out of his mouth in a media interview, then it's much worse than we thought. No. He, like all senior politicians, has vast experience with shouty interviewers. And as such, he knew exactly what he was doing. He was appealing to a group of people, perhaps including you, for whom such railing against authority was music to their ears and then it became a Thing during the campaign.
Jeez and you are contributing to a political blog.
You are doing it again, and severely embarrassing yourself.
Couldn't put it better myself - to me, last night looks like a subversion of democracy, not a healthy expression of it.
To quote a prominent Leaver of You won. This is what parliamentary Sovereignty looks like. Suck it up.
If you want to look stupid and dishonest, keep saying "We have had enough of experts" as if it was what Gove said. Otherwise, stop.
To be fair Scott only has to open his mouth to look stupid and dishonest.
Nah ah (sp?)
Gove is no fool. He may have said XXXX now XXXX is XXXX XXX X XXXXXXXXX XXXXXX not XXXXXXX XX XXXXX the XXXXXXXX time XX XXXXX XX X XXXXXXXX X for XXXX XX XXXXXX experts.
But he knows how politics works (moreso than @Ishmael_Z and apparently you) and he knew exactly what the takeaways would be and lo they were the ones he wanted them to be.
we are seeing more and more of these WAKE UP SHEEPLE posts which explain that the way things look is just there to fool the little people - the dummies who think that "accession talks" means talks designed to lead to accession, and so on, and frankly you can either take it to zerohedge where it belongs, or stick it where the sun don't shine. You like Scott are too grand to stoop to actually watching what happened before commenting on it; if you did it would be quite clear to you that Gove was needled into saying what he said (which is why he said it in a way open to distortion by shouty Faisal); it was quite obviously entirely unprepared.
Again you display your naivety. "Gove was needled into saying what he said" - ROTFLMAO.
Poor lickle Mikey. That nasty Faisal Islam shame on him. If Gove can't control what comes out of his mouth in a media interview, then it's much worse than we thought. No. He, like all senior politicians, has vast experience with shouty interviewers. And as such, he knew exactly what he was doing. He was appealing to a group of people, perhaps including you, for whom such railing against authority was music to their ears and then it became a Thing during the campaign.
Jeez and you are contributing to a political blog.
You are doing it again, and severely embarrassing yourself.
Are you familiar with the phrase "idiot cunning"?
Would prefer some actual, you know, debate but fair enough and no, I'm not familiar with the phrase; is it a thing also?
Dominic Grieve saying he has received death threats after yesterday's vote.He has reported them to the police..Truly crazy.
Agreed. And lectures on party discipline from the camp of IDS and other b******* who did so much to undermine and damage John Major's government reek of hypocrisy and cant. We all need to calm down a bit.
It is time someone on twitter who sends a death threat received a stupendously long prison sentence to really get the message across on all this.
Well said.Surely the law is there to do this.I remember answering a question badly when studying for my degree.It was.why is the sentence different for attempted murder and murder ? The intention been the same only the outcome different due to various reasons.
I can't find any examples other than Isabella Sorley, and John Nimmo who sent threats to Caroline Criado-Perez. They got 8-12 weeks.
Dominic Grieve, the Conservative MP, has faced death threats after leading a parliamentary rebellion that resulted in the prime minister’s first defeat on Brexit.
The former Tory attorney has reported incidents to the police. Other colleagues who rebelled have also come under pressure. Grieve told the Guardian:
'The thing which continues to cause me concern is not that people will disagree vigorously with the positions we take but that the atmosphere is so febrile that it leads firstly to people not listening to what the debate is about, secondly suggests that any questions around Brexit amount to an intention to sabotage and thirdly result in some people expressing themselves in terms that at times include death threats.
Death threats should have no part in the political process of a democracy.'
Grieve also questioned the response of some newspapers to the vote, including a front page story from the Daily Mail that claimed 11 Tory “self-consumed malcontents” had betrayed their leader, party and 17.4m Brexit voters and had increased the “possibility of a Marxist in No 10”. Grieve said:
'The form of reporting that the Daily Mail adopts is an incitement to obscuring what the issues actually are. That then adds to the atmosphere.'
Interesting. There were some rave reviews of Rogue 1 on here which persuaded me to give it a go. It was pretty meh.
Rogue one was really good, as long as you took it as a standalone story and not as a part of the wider SW universe. 8 is not close to R1 though. I'm actually genuinely surprised as to how many awful scenes didn't get cut. One in particular will go down as the worst scene in all of SW history.
Dominic Grieve, the Conservative MP, has faced death threats after leading a parliamentary rebellion that resulted in the prime minister’s first defeat on Brexit.
The former Tory attorney has reported incidents to the police. Other colleagues who rebelled have also come under pressure. Grieve told the Guardian:
'The thing which continues to cause me concern is not that people will disagree vigorously with the positions we take but that the atmosphere is so febrile that it leads firstly to people not listening to what the debate is about, secondly suggests that any questions around Brexit amount to an intention to sabotage and thirdly result in some people expressing themselves in terms that at times include death threats.
Death threats should have no part in the political process of a democracy.'
Grieve also questioned the response of some newspapers to the vote, including a front page story from the Daily Mail that claimed 11 Tory “self-consumed malcontents” had betrayed their leader, party and 17.4m Brexit voters and had increased the “possibility of a Marxist in No 10”. Grieve said:
'The form of reporting that the Daily Mail adopts is an incitement to obscuring what the issues actually are. That then adds to the atmosphere.'
I should imagine medium to large houses on the English side of Berwick will be popular with estate agents as middle to high earners flee Nat tax bombshell - a ratchet that will no doubt tighten year on year.
The stamp duty is cheaper in England too for medium sized houses so a double whammy.
Nevertheless the transaction costs of moving house, particularly at the upper end of the market, would take years to recouo, particularly if the difference in income tax is offset by other costs such as a longer commute.
Not if you are moving house anyway or you don't already live there.
Anyone moving to a decently paid job in Scotland would be well worth investigating commuting from England - this Nat tax is only going to get worse.
* Stamp duty * income tax * minimum alcohol pricing.
You can boil a frog for a while.
No one who is moving to avoid the high end income tax changes will be affected by minimum alcohol pricing.
Bit of a trip for a night out at the Festival Theatre an all.
A £3724 season ticket (pleb class) on the train and a hour plus commute. You'd have to be earning loads to make that worthwhile
Any MP claiming to want to represent the people with a final vote is clearly bullshitting. The people have already had their say and we've instructed them to leave. Everything else is just obstructionism/treason dressed up as concern. The people have instructed the MPs. They no longer have sovereignty on the issue of Brexit.
Any MP claiming to want to represent the people with a final vote is clearly bullshitting. The people have already had their say and we've instructed them to leave. Everything else is just obstructionism/treason dressed up as concern. The people have instructed the MPs. They no longer have sovereignty on the issue of Brexit.
Ah yes, but you forget some people are more equal than others
Any MP claiming to want to represent the people with a final vote is clearly bullshitting. The people have already had their say and we've instructed them to leave. Everything else is just obstructionism/treason dressed up as concern. The people have instructed the MPs. They no longer have sovereignty on the issue of Brexit.
Would prefer some actual, you know, debate but fair enough and no, I'm not familiar with the phrase; is it a thing also?
Tell me, where do you draw the line? When Abbot's numbers on police pay were out by 3 orders of magnitude was she in fact having a meltdown, or was that, again, just what the sheeple were meant to think? How do you differentiate between Abbot losing control, and Gove losing control, of an interview.
Like all snobs you underestimate the intelligence of people you judge to be poorer or less well educated than you are. Almost everyone is capable of understanding the point that there's experts you go to when your health or your car breaks down, and wannabe financial experts who think the financial future is predictable, when it is perhaps the single most certain finding in the whole of economics, that it isn't.
I should imagine medium to large houses on the English side of Berwick will be popular with estate agents as middle to high earners flee Nat tax bombshell - a ratchet that will no doubt tighten year on year.
The stamp duty is cheaper in England too for medium sized houses so a double whammy.
Medium size house are cheaper in Scotland.
@TGOHF Regarding Stamp Duty, I think @Alistair has a point !
If the house I am buying was in Scotland, I'd save £400 on Stamp Duty.
The worst place in the whole of the UK for stamp duty must be the southeast/London due to the mental prices down there.
Any MP claiming to want to represent the people with a final vote is clearly bullshitting. The people have already had their say and we've instructed them to leave. Everything else is just obstructionism/treason dressed up as concern. The people have instructed the MPs. They no longer have sovereignty on the issue of Brexit.
I wonder how many of those banging on about a second referendum reacted to Farage's 'unfinished business' comment on the night.
A second referendum should have been part of the plan from the start, if a referendum of this kind had to be held at all. But to change the rules after the fact sits too badly.
Any MP claiming to want to represent the people with a final vote is clearly bullshitting. The people have already had their say and we've instructed them to leave. Everything else is just obstructionism/treason dressed up as concern. The people have instructed the MPs. They no longer have sovereignty on the issue of Brexit.
No, if the final deal includes FoM in more or less its current form then it is important for Parliament to get its say, one way or another, rather than take diktat from Strong and Stable.
You may say she wouldn't agree to this, I am not so sure. Her red lines fade quickly.
Any MP claiming to want to represent the people with a final vote is clearly bullshitting. The people have already had their say and we've instructed them to leave. Everything else is just obstructionism/treason dressed up as concern. The people have instructed the MPs. They no longer have sovereignty on the issue of Brexit.
No, if the final deal includes FoM in more or less its current form then it is important for Parliament to get its say, one way or another, rather than take diktat from Strong and Stable.
You may say she wouldn't agree to this, I am not so sure. Her red lines fade quickly.
The EU aren't going to roll over and make concessions just because Parliament voted it down are they?
Any MP claiming to want to represent the people with a final vote is clearly bullshitting. The people have already had their say and we've instructed them to leave. Everything else is just obstructionism/treason dressed up as concern. The people have instructed the MPs. They no longer have sovereignty on the issue of Brexit.
What instruction did we give them on arrangements for international recognition of medicines? (for example) Pretending that Brexit is binary reduces the debate down to a pantomime of patriots and traitors - as does imagining that the detailed issues had been aired or agreed by the Leave side before the vote.
There is a mandate against remain - what exactly is there a mandate for?
I see the early evening Leave shift is happy to label Remain voters as traitors. I look forward to the later evening Leave shift grumpily complaining that Remain voters are never satisfied by the efforts made by Leavers to heal the divisions.
Hmm not sure how to put it into context of Radiohead, but it's not nearly as good as 7 and R1. It sits between 3 and 6 in terms of quality. Better than the prequels, but not as good as the originals.
The first 15-20 minutes is top drawer. After that, just enjoyable.
I see the early evening Leave shift is happy to label Remain voters as traitors. I look forward to the later evening Leave shift grumpily complaining that Remain voters are never satisfied by the efforts made by Leavers to heal the divisions.
Any MP claiming to want to represent the people with a final vote is clearly bullshitting. The people have already had their say and we've instructed them to leave. Everything else is just obstructionism/treason dressed up as concern. The people have instructed the MPs. They no longer have sovereignty on the issue of Brexit.
No, if the final deal includes FoM in more or less its current form then it is important for Parliament to get its say, one way or another, rather than take diktat from Strong and Stable.
You may say she wouldn't agree to this, I am not so sure. Her red lines fade quickly.
The EU aren't going to roll over and make concessions just because Parliament voted it down are they?
No, but it gives Parliament the say over WTO hard Brexit or soft as eiderdown Brexit in that circumstance, and the MPs would have to own the decision.
If it is medium soft Brexit then endorsement by Parliament will be an impoetant part of the healing process.
Mr. Meeks, I was unaware I was a member of a shift. Must have a lot of backpay coming.
Alas I think you need 2 years of continuous service to qualify for back pay. You've had too many periods of rational debate to make the grade I'm afraid
May of course did not flinch when she really did face an assassination threat recently.
I should think most tube users have better things to do than plot the murder of the MP for Streatham if any of them actually recognised him anyway
"most" is not good enough. It only takes one. Since Britain had an MP killed by a far right lunatic only last year, his fear seems reasonable.
If anything even he had longer links with the Far Right than protesting about Brexit and that is one out of 17 million. Despite continued attempts of some Remainers to frustrate the biggest post-war vote in our history almost all Leave voters have remained law abiding and restrained
A quarter of reports to Prevent are in relation to far right extremists. It's not surprising when newspapers and commentators routinely label opponents as traitors and saboteurs.
Meanwhile, the so-called moderate Leavers stay silent.
Hmm not sure how to put it into context of Radiohead, but it's not nearly as good as 7 and R1. It sits between 3 and 6 in terms of quality. Better than the prequels, but not as good as the originals.
The first 15-20 minutes is top drawer. After that, just enjoyable.
A bit of overload on the cutesy critters though.
Oddly I'd score it the other way. Enjoyable to start, but even better as it goes along other than a couple of scenes, particularly the last third, it handled itself so well in that part. The flaws I felt were closer to the beginning and in part just the set up to certain plot driving moments.
Overall, bloody brilliant. Better than 7 by a fair distance, and I liked 7. I won't judge its place in the list of them all until I've had a chance to ponder it longer. Hamill is so much better an actor now than in the originals it's funny though.
Character and style the new films have in abundance, which is great.
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Am sure have bought other stuff too like costumes and other toy.
It’s a bit tame tbh - kick up a big fuss about devolving powers-and independnece and then make superficial changes.
I should think most tube users have better things to do than plot the murder of the MP for Streatham if any of them actually recognised him anyway
Mr. Eagles, got to admit, you were probably the chap I thought likeliest to have done so.
Just that I got some Game of Thrones thingummyjigs for someone this year and was very surprised by the enormous range of stuff available. Notebooks, pins, letter openers, coasters, mugs, clothing, etc etc.
I felt decidedly under dressed at The Last Jedi screening, as I was wearing neither a R2-D2 jumper, nor a fluffy Chewbacca onesie like some of the other cinemagoers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42351026
I also think it reflects recognition that Indyref2 is off the table for the time being so just running the government in a way that does as little to offend people as possible is no longer sustainable. Nicola is, I think, more left leaning than Salmond was and more conscious that her power base in the central belt is too.
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Tell me you didn't go as slave Leia.
Gove is no fool. He may have said XXXX now XXXX is XXXX XXX X XXXXXXXXX XXXXXX not XXXXXXX XX XXXXX the XXXXXXXX time XX XXXXX XX X XXXXXXXX X for XXXX XX XXXXXX experts.
But he knows how politics works (moreso than @Ishmael_Z and apparently you) and he knew exactly what the takeaways would be and lo they were the ones he wanted them to be.
Surely Income Tax is administered UK wide now - the Scottish Govt doesn't get the income tax paid by all individual Scots - it gets a block amount determined by Barnett formula.
Will the Scottish Govt just, effectively, get a "cheque from HMRC" for the tax differential - ie 1% on income above £24k minus 1% on income below £13,850?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B077LVX5S5/ref=mp_s_a_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1513269580&sr=8-19&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=star+wars+christmas+jumper&dpPl=1&dpID=61fhxQNOJ6L&ref=plSrch
Meanwhile, the so-called moderate Leavers stay silent.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/42346331
There's a lot of it on the internet. A Call of Duty developer (and his family) received death threats after he minutely tweaked reload times on guns to try and better balance the game.
Hopefully we can have a proper, orderly departure and then rifts can heal.
And one of them is a bagpip[e band.
Some Walking Dead Lego would be good, though.
It's a view.
Anyone moving to a decently paid job in Scotland would be well worth investigating commuting from England - this Nat tax is only going to get worse.
* Stamp duty
* income tax
* minimum alcohol pricing.
You can boil a frog for a while.
Poor lickle Mikey. That nasty Faisal Islam shame on him. If Gove can't control what comes out of his mouth in a media interview, then it's much worse than we thought. No. He, like all senior politicians, has vast experience with shouty interviewers. And as such, he knew exactly what he was doing. He was appealing to a group of people, perhaps including you, for whom such railing against authority was music to their ears and then it became a Thing during the campaign.
Jeez and you are contributing to a political blog.
The internet has made it far far easier and quicker to do this - no surprise that it occurs.
Has nothing to do with Brexit or any other specific topic though.
Are you familiar with the phrase "idiot cunning"?
The former Tory attorney has reported incidents to the police. Other colleagues who rebelled have also come under pressure. Grieve told the Guardian:
'The thing which continues to cause me concern is not that people will disagree vigorously with the positions we take but that the atmosphere is so febrile that it leads firstly to people not listening to what the debate is about, secondly suggests that any questions around Brexit amount to an intention to sabotage and thirdly result in some people expressing themselves in terms that at times include death threats.
Death threats should have no part in the political process of a democracy.'
Grieve also questioned the response of some newspapers to the vote, including a front page story from the Daily Mail that claimed 11 Tory “self-consumed malcontents” had betrayed their leader, party and 17.4m Brexit voters and had increased the “possibility of a Marxist in No 10”. Grieve said:
'The form of reporting that the Daily Mail adopts is an incitement to obscuring what the issues actually are. That then adds to the atmosphere.'
https://tinyurl.com/LawyersRuleTheWorld
Bob Geldof loses the freedom of Dublin City
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/bob-geldof-absolutely-disgusted-dublin-city-council-revoked-his-freedom-award-36408862.html
youd need a heart of stone not to laugh
It is also superb
Bit of a trip for a night out at the Festival Theatre an all.
A £3724 season ticket (pleb class) on the train and a hour plus commute. You'd have to be earning loads to make that worthwhile
Like all snobs you underestimate the intelligence of people you judge to be poorer or less well educated than you are. Almost everyone is capable of understanding the point that there's experts you go to when your health or your car breaks down, and wannabe financial experts who think the financial future is predictable, when it is perhaps the single most certain finding in the whole of economics, that it isn't.
On Rogue One: I thought there was quite a lot to like but some serious drawbacks (mostly weak characters, and the two monks added nothing).
If the house I am buying was in Scotland, I'd save £400 on Stamp Duty.
The worst place in the whole of the UK for stamp duty must be the southeast/London due to the mental prices down there.
A second referendum should have been part of the plan from the start, if a referendum of this kind had to be held at all. But to change the rules after the fact sits too badly.
You may say she wouldn't agree to this, I am not so sure. Her red lines fade quickly.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/42346331
I suspect they may end up being axed even if that's indicative of the general audience of F1.
There is a mandate against remain - what exactly is there a mandate for?
A bit of overload on the cutesy critters though.
They should just make the grid person the opposite gender of the driver.
If it is medium soft Brexit then endorsement by Parliament will be an impoetant part of the healing process.
Brexit really is working out so well isn't it?
No wonder Mr. Eagles is so much wealthier than me
https://twitter.com/konotaromp/status/941267067306631169
Overall, bloody brilliant. Better than 7 by a fair distance, and I liked 7. I won't judge its place in the list of them all until I've had a chance to ponder it longer. Hamill is so much better an actor now than in the originals it's funny though.
Character and style the new films have in abundance, which is great.