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  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 11,501
    Amber Rudd is a scary lady. :D
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 6,380
    Tezzie hasn't really grasped this 'reshuffle' thing, has she?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 14,574
    murali_s said:

    murali_s said:

    stevef said:

    Before anyone announces that the Tories are bound to lose the next election because of a Cabinet reshuffle cock up, let us remember the occasion when Jeremy Corbyn took three weeks to reshuffle his cabinet, ran out of MPs who were willing to serve under him, and then appointed and sacked as a shadow cabinet minister an MP who was having cancer treatment without informing her either way. And then decided that the country was crying out for Diane Abbott as Home Secretary. When it comes to incompetence there is only one unchallenged master.......

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-shadow-cabinet-thangam-debbonaire-cancer-a7141341.html

    Desperate switch and bait stuff there...

    Look in the mirror - the Tories need to be ejected out of power and quickly...
    Not going to happen for another 4 years
    That’s what you hope. It will be quicker than that. Let alone many Tory MP fruitcakes, you have to rely on the 10 lunatics from the DUP.
    No it will not - and talking of lunatics Corbyn and McDonnell stand top of the pile
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 3,197

    JohnO said:

    So a vacancy at Justice - perhaps Dom Raab will be promoted to SoS but I think it unlikely.

    A few people think he's headed to Northern Ireland.

    But I reckon give the importance of the role at the moment she'll give Norn Iron to a friend.

    But where's Hunt going to go?
    Agree with you....he might of course stay at Health, but wasn't there speculation he would move to an upgraded Business Dept? We'll know soon enough.
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 1,447
    The official No. 1 snapper should be sacked immediately! Seriously, most youngsters at photography college would be embarrassed to submit such poor work. Look too at the group photo posted below – full of shoulder gaps and just amateurish in every way.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 18,424
    JohnO said:

    JohnO said:

    So a vacancy at Justice - perhaps Dom Raab will be promoted to SoS but I think it unlikely.

    A few people think he's headed to Northern Ireland.

    But I reckon give the importance of the role at the moment she'll give Norn Iron to a friend.

    But where's Hunt going to go?
    Agree with you....he might of course stay at Health, but wasn't there speculation he would move to an upgraded Business Dept? We'll know soon enough.
    He'd make a spiffing Chancellor.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 24,532
    RoyalBlue said:

    murali_s said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    Absolutely pathetic. Only obsessives and partisans care about who’s tweeted what.

    What a small man your hero is.
    FFS, why can’t he post this? Some of you Tory loons are losing it...
    He can. My fire is targeted at Osborne, who is continuing to demonstrate the emotional maturity of a spoilt child.

    Gove was a giant by comparison when he was sacked. Then again, he cares about things greater than himself.
    Osborne was dismissed rudely by May but, in his behaviour since, he demonstrates some of the behaviours that led to his dismissal.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 3,640
    Cyclefree said:

    brendan16 said:

    marke09 said:

    Matthew Moore‏ @mattkmoore

    NEW: BBC staff told that anyone who has indicated support for Carrie Gracie, or tweeted an opinion about BBC pay, can no longer present any segments on BBC pay.
    12:59 PM - 8 Jan 2018

    The BBC are doing their best to make the Tory party look competent by comparison.
    She publicly criticises her employers, quits her job, then walks into another job with the BBC.

    Most people would get sacked for attacking their employer in public. She could always see how much Russia today or Al Jazeera would pay her on the open market?

    Brave would be resigning and leaving the BBC entirely.
    What I don't understand is why she is saying that she doesn't want more money. What then is the point of all this hoo ha? If she is underpaid then she bloody well ought to get more money. Agreeing to stay underpaid and turning down a pay increase is simply prolonging the problem.
    That is the issue with her position. By turning down a pay rise - she is effecitvely saying that her colleagues should have their pay cut to the same level as her if she really wants equality. She claims it is up to 'Management' to sort it out - but how can they when she turns down the only mechanism they have to rectify the perceived problem. Levelling down is not going to be the way to improve quality or equality at the BBC. I suppose it would be doing More Better for Less - only not managing to do anything better.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 3,197

    JohnO said:

    JohnO said:

    So a vacancy at Justice - perhaps Dom Raab will be promoted to SoS but I think it unlikely.

    A few people think he's headed to Northern Ireland.

    But I reckon give the importance of the role at the moment she'll give Norn Iron to a friend.

    But where's Hunt going to go?
    Agree with you....he might of course stay at Health, but wasn't there speculation he would move to an upgraded Business Dept? We'll know soon enough.
    He'd make a spiffing Chancellor.
    Yep, but won't happen (he predicts tentatively).
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 18,098

    Tezzie hasn't really grasped this 'reshuffle' thing, has she?
    Rudd has Home Office questions at 2.30pm. Presumably just a courtesy to say she still has to go do them....
  • DadgeDadge Posts: 1,174
    Quite a few of those official parliamentary photos are sh*t. Thangam D. looks like a bloke in drag...
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 1,447

    RoyalBlue said:

    murali_s said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    Absolutely pathetic. Only obsessives and partisans care about who’s tweeted what.

    What a small man your hero is.
    FFS, why can’t he post this? Some of you Tory loons are losing it...
    He can. My fire is targeted at Osborne, who is continuing to demonstrate the emotional maturity of a spoilt child.

    Gove was a giant by comparison when he was sacked. Then again, he cares about things greater than himself.
    Osborne was dismissed rudely by May but, in his behaviour since, he demonstrates some of the behaviours that led to his dismissal.
    In all fairness, the guy is a man mountain compared to the useless dullard Theresa May.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 18,424

    Osborne was dismissed rudely by May but, in his behaviour since, he demonstrates some of the behaviours that led to his dismissal.

    He's just doing his new job, quite exceptionally well.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 24,532
    Anazina said:

    Anazina said:

    Sean_F said:

    Anazina said:

    Dadge said:

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.

    Carlotta is a one-woman Tory rebuttal bot operating under orders from Central Office.
    Pots and kettles.

    Guess again. Not a member of any party. Never will be.
    If your name, avatar and posting total is correct, you are new to politicalbetting.

    Within your grand total of 84 posts, I am yet to see a non-partisan, or non-trolling post from you.

    I'm sure there's more to you than that, so will wait to be impressed by the real you.
    My job is not to impress you, Mr Bond.
    Ah, so you have a job?

    Interesting.
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 1,447

    Tezzie hasn't really grasped this 'reshuffle' thing, has she?
    Next big news in – Theresa May REMAINS as Prime Minister.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 18,424
    JohnO said:

    JohnO said:

    JohnO said:

    So a vacancy at Justice - perhaps Dom Raab will be promoted to SoS but I think it unlikely.

    A few people think he's headed to Northern Ireland.

    But I reckon give the importance of the role at the moment she'll give Norn Iron to a friend.

    But where's Hunt going to go?
    Agree with you....he might of course stay at Health, but wasn't there speculation he would move to an upgraded Business Dept? We'll know soon enough.
    He'd make a spiffing Chancellor.
    Yep, but won't happen (he predicts tentatively).
    Yes, I think you are right.
  • @stuartpstevens: Somewhere a Republican team is being tasked with coming up with how to attack Oprah for being a politically inexperienced tv star. You don’t want this job.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 18,098

    RoyalBlue said:

    murali_s said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    Absolutely pathetic. Only obsessives and partisans care about who’s tweeted what.

    What a small man your hero is.
    FFS, why can’t he post this? Some of you Tory loons are losing it...
    He can. My fire is targeted at Osborne, who is continuing to demonstrate the emotional maturity of a spoilt child.

    Gove was a giant by comparison when he was sacked. Then again, he cares about things greater than himself.
    Osborne was dismissed rudely by May but, in his behaviour since, he demonstrates some of the behaviours that led to his dismissal.
    Osborne never grasped that she was doing him a favour. However he looked coming out of 10 Downing Street after being fired as Chancellor, the papers would have a field day with the expression on their fellow Fleet Street colleague's face....
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 24,532

    JohnO said:

    So a vacancy at Justice - perhaps Dom Raab will be promoted to SoS but I think it unlikely.

    A few people think he's headed to Northern Ireland.

    But I reckon give the importance of the role at the moment she'll give Norn Iron to a friend.

    But where's Hunt going to go?
    Norn Iron is a very difficult job right now that needs someone with superb political talent.
  • PeterMannionPeterMannion Posts: 270
    What a God-awful politician
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 18,098
    edited January 8
    Anazina said:

    Tezzie hasn't really grasped this 'reshuffle' thing, has she?
    Next big news in – Theresa May REMAINS as Prime Minister.
    Four more years. Four more years.....
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 1,447

    Anazina said:

    Anazina said:

    Sean_F said:

    Anazina said:

    Dadge said:

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.

    Carlotta is a one-woman Tory rebuttal bot operating under orders from Central Office.
    Pots and kettles.

    Guess again. Not a member of any party. Never will be.
    If your name, avatar and posting total is correct, you are new to politicalbetting.

    Within your grand total of 84 posts, I am yet to see a non-partisan, or non-trolling post from you.

    I'm sure there's more to you than that, so will wait to be impressed by the real you.
    My job is not to impress you, Mr Bond.
    Ah, so you have a job?

    Interesting.
    I am happily employed, thank you. By the way, I must congratulate you on your username. Casino Royale (the Craig version of course) is the best of all the Bond films. It is somewhat overlong and the scenes in Venice at the end could have been more concisely delivered, yet it remains the best of the series, narrowly edging out Goldfinger.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 9,588

    @stuartpstevens: Somewhere a Republican team is being tasked with coming up with how to attack Oprah for being a politically inexperienced tv star. You don’t want this job.

    Hey now, Trump has stood for President in 2000. Vastly more experienced.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 6,872

    Osborne was dismissed rudely by May but, in his behaviour since, he demonstrates some of the behaviours that led to his dismissal.

    He's just doing his new job, quite exceptionally well.
    What are the Evening Standard's circulation figures like?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 19,820
    Cyclefree said:

    brendan16 said:

    marke09 said:

    Matthew Moore‏ @mattkmoore

    NEW: BBC staff told that anyone who has indicated support for Carrie Gracie, or tweeted an opinion about BBC pay, can no longer present any segments on BBC pay.
    12:59 PM - 8 Jan 2018

    The BBC are doing their best to make the Tory party look competent by comparison.
    She publicly criticises her employers, quits her job, then walks into another job with the BBC.

    Most people would get sacked for attacking their employer in public. She could always see how much Russia today or Al Jazeera would pay her on the open market?

    Brave would be resigning and leaving the BBC entirely.
    What I don't understand is why she is saying that she doesn't want more money. What then is the point of all this hoo ha? If she is underpaid then she bloody well ought to get more money. Agreeing to stay underpaid and turning down a pay increase is simply prolonging the problem.
    She was offered £50K extra (same as the Middle East guy), but that would still have been £50K less than the guy in the US.

    So she sulked on principle.

    (Setting aside that, I'd argue, the US role is a bigger and more important one)

    She's moved to a less important role that is in line with her current pay.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 42,735
    Lidington will stand in for May at PMQs when she is away as Green did

    https://mobile.twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/950366387314229249
  • JonathanDJonathanD Posts: 2,117

    RoyalBlue said:

    murali_s said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    Absolutely pathetic. Only obsessives and partisans care about who’s tweeted what.

    What a small man your hero is.
    FFS, why can’t he post this? Some of you Tory loons are losing it...
    He can. My fire is targeted at Osborne, who is continuing to demonstrate the emotional maturity of a spoilt child.

    Gove was a giant by comparison when he was sacked. Then again, he cares about things greater than himself.
    Osborne was dismissed rudely by May but, in his behaviour since, he demonstrates some of the behaviours that led to his dismissal.
    Osborne never grasped that she was doing him a favour. However he looked coming out of 10 Downing Street after being fired as Chancellor, the papers would have a field day with the expression on their fellow Fleet Street colleague's face....
    If she was wanting to do him a favour she wouldn't have had him walk in the front door of No 10 just to give him the sack.
  • RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 2,334
    Anazina said:

    Anazina said:

    Anazina said:

    Sean_F said:

    Anazina said:

    Dadge said:

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.

    Carlotta is a one-woman Tory rebuttal bot operating under orders from Central Office.
    Pots and kettles.

    Guess again. Not a member of any party. Never will be.
    If your name, avatar and posting total is correct, you are new to politicalbetting.

    Within your grand total of 84 posts, I am yet to see a non-partisan, or non-trolling post from you.

    I'm sure there's more to you than that, so will wait to be impressed by the real you.
    My job is not to impress you, Mr Bond.
    Ah, so you have a job?

    Interesting.
    I am happily employed, thank you. By the way, I must congratulate you on your username. Casino Royale (the Craig version of course) is the best of all the Bond films. It is somewhat overlong and the scenes in Venice at the end could have been more concisely delivered, yet it remains the best of the series, narrowly edging out Goldfinger.
    Better than Moonraker?

    (Hides in corner)
  • JohnO said:

    So a vacancy at Justice - perhaps Dom Raab will be promoted to SoS but I think it unlikely.

    A few people think he's headed to Northern Ireland.

    But I reckon give the importance of the role at the moment she'll give Norn Iron to a friend.

    But where's Hunt going to go?
    Norn Iron is a very difficult job right now that needs someone with superb political talent.
    If only Tissue Price had won Don Valley, he'd be nailed on for that job.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 3,197
    edited January 8
    HYUFD said:

    Lidington will stand in for May at PMQs when she is away as Green did

    https://mobile.twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/950366387314229249

    Didn't Lidington do that before when he was Leader of the House?
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 1,447
    RoyalBlue said:

    Anazina said:

    Anazina said:

    Anazina said:

    Sean_F said:

    Anazina said:

    Dadge said:

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.

    Carlotta is a one-woman Tory rebuttal bot operating under orders from Central Office.
    Pots and kettles.

    Guess again. Not a member of any party. Never will be.
    If your name, avatar and posting total is correct, you are new to politicalbetting.

    Within your grand total of 84 posts, I am yet to see a non-partisan, or non-trolling post from you.

    I'm sure there's more to you than that, so will wait to be impressed by the real you.
    My job is not to impress you, Mr Bond.
    Ah, so you have a job?

    Interesting.
    I am happily employed, thank you. By the way, I must congratulate you on your username. Casino Royale (the Craig version of course) is the best of all the Bond films. It is somewhat overlong and the scenes in Venice at the end could have been more concisely delivered, yet it remains the best of the series, narrowly edging out Goldfinger.
    Better than Moonraker?

    (Hides in corner)
    Ha ha! In seriousness, I think the Living Daylights is one of the best films in the series – often forgotten about as has Dalton as Bond!
  • JohnO said:

    HYUFD said:

    Lidington will stand in for May at PMQs when she is away as Green did

    https://mobile.twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/950366387314229249

    Didn't Lidington do that when he was Leader of the House?
    He did.

    Smart appointment.
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 14,169

    JohnO said:

    JohnO said:

    JohnO said:

    So a vacancy at Justice - perhaps Dom Raab will be promoted to SoS but I think it unlikely.

    A few people think he's headed to Northern Ireland.

    But I reckon give the importance of the role at the moment she'll give Norn Iron to a friend.

    But where's Hunt going to go?
    Agree with you....he might of course stay at Health, but wasn't there speculation he would move to an upgraded Business Dept? We'll know soon enough.
    He'd make a spiffing Chancellor.
    Yep, but won't happen (he predicts tentatively).
    Yes, I think you are right.
    The more appointments that are made without Hunt's name being attached to one of them, the more likely it is that he stays in place.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 18,098
    Best wishes for a speedy recovery to James Brokenshire.
  • felixfelix Posts: 7,679
    Anazina said:

    Anazina said:

    Sean_F said:

    Anazina said:

    Dadge said:

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.

    Carlotta is a one-woman Tory rebuttal bot operating under orders from Central Office.
    Pots and kettles.

    Guess again. Not a member of any party. Never will be.
    If your name, avatar and posting total is correct, you are new to politicalbetting.

    Within your grand total of 84 posts, I am yet to see a non-partisan, or non-trolling post from you.

    I'm sure there's more to you than that, so will wait to be impressed by the real you.
    My job is not to impress you, Mr Bond.
    You're doing a great job there then
  • basicbridgebasicbridge Posts: 132

    Normal PB anorak commentary on the Grayling and the reshuffle.

    Just to reiterate: THE GREAT BRITISH PUBLIC DOESNT CARE.

    Thanks awfully for caring enough to SHOUT that at us.
    Sometimes it rather needs to be....

  • midwintermidwinter Posts: 1,069

    RoyalBlue said:

    murali_s said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    Absolutely pathetic. Only obsessives and partisans care about who’s tweeted what.

    What a small man your hero is.
    FFS, why can’t he post this? Some of you Tory loons are losing it...
    He can. My fire is targeted at Osborne, who is continuing to demonstrate the emotional maturity of a spoilt child.

    Gove was a giant by comparison when he was sacked. Then again, he cares about things greater than himself.
    Osborne was dismissed rudely by May but, in his behaviour since, he demonstrates some of the behaviours that led to his dismissal.
    Needlessly insulting and making an enemy of someone considerably more intelligent than herself was, perhaps, a lack of judgement.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 6,872
    Danny565 said:

    Osborne was dismissed rudely by May but, in his behaviour since, he demonstrates some of the behaviours that led to his dismissal.

    He's just doing his new job, quite exceptionally well.
    What are the Evening Standard's circulation figures like?
    Oh, I'd forgotten the ES is free, so probably not comparable to most papers.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 24,532

    Osborne was dismissed rudely by May but, in his behaviour since, he demonstrates some of the behaviours that led to his dismissal.

    He's just doing his new job, quite exceptionally well.
    I disagree. I've stopped reading the Standard since he became editor.

    He junks more newsworthy stories just so he can fire another shot at May on the front-page.

    The man is consumed by revenge, which, to me, reveals a serious character flaw.

  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 11,792
    There's a guy/gal in a marketing department that's having a worse day than Iain Carter.

  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 1,447
    midwinter said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    murali_s said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    Absolutely pathetic. Only obsessives and partisans care about who’s tweeted what.

    What a small man your hero is.
    FFS, why can’t he post this? Some of you Tory loons are losing it...
    He can. My fire is targeted at Osborne, who is continuing to demonstrate the emotional maturity of a spoilt child.

    Gove was a giant by comparison when he was sacked. Then again, he cares about things greater than himself.
    Osborne was dismissed rudely by May but, in his behaviour since, he demonstrates some of the behaviours that led to his dismissal.
    Needlessly insulting and making an enemy of someone considerably more intelligent than herself was, perhaps, a lack of judgement.
    Indeed so. First rule of business, never burn your bridges. Second rule, always be polite. Third rule, don't make powerful enemies.

    0/3 for Theresa on her dealings with Osborne.
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 2,026

    Best wishes for a speedy recovery to James Brokenshire.

    +1
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 1,447
    felix said:

    Anazina said:

    Anazina said:

    Sean_F said:

    Anazina said:

    Dadge said:

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.

    Carlotta is a one-woman Tory rebuttal bot operating under orders from Central Office.
    Pots and kettles.

    Guess again. Not a member of any party. Never will be.
    If your name, avatar and posting total is correct, you are new to politicalbetting.

    Within your grand total of 84 posts, I am yet to see a non-partisan, or non-trolling post from you.

    I'm sure there's more to you than that, so will wait to be impressed by the real you.
    My job is not to impress you, Mr Bond.
    You're doing a great job there then
    Thanks. You are doing a great job too, Mr Leiter.

    (P.S. I am noting a theme with the Bond related names – I approve)
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 1,447

    Osborne was dismissed rudely by May but, in his behaviour since, he demonstrates some of the behaviours that led to his dismissal.

    He's just doing his new job, quite exceptionally well.
    I disagree. I've stopped reading the Standard since he became editor.

    He junks more newsworthy stories just so he can fire another shot at May on the front-page.

    The man is consumed by revenge, which, to me, reveals a serious character flaw.


    If you don't read the Standard, how can you assess its current output?
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 2,026

    What a God-awful politician
    Yep, she's nasty.

    The good people of Hastings will kick her out next time...
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 24,532
    Anazina said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    Anazina said:

    Anazina said:

    Anazina said:

    Sean_F said:

    Anazina said:

    Dadge said:

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.

    Carlotta is a one-woman Tory rebuttal bot operating under orders from Central Office.
    Pots and kettles.

    Guess again. Not a member of any party. Never will be.
    If your name, avatar and posting total is correct, you are new to politicalbetting.

    Within your grand total of 84 posts, I am yet to see a non-partisan, or non-trolling post from you.

    I'm sure there's more to you than that, so will wait to be impressed by the real you.
    My job is not to impress you, Mr Bond.
    Ah, so you have a job?

    Interesting.
    I am happily employed, thank you. By the way, I must congratulate you on your username. Casino Royale (the Craig version of course) is the best of all the Bond films. It is somewhat overlong and the scenes in Venice at the end could have been more concisely delivered, yet it remains the best of the series, narrowly edging out Goldfinger.
    Better than Moonraker?

    (Hides in corner)
    Ha ha! In seriousness, I think the Living Daylights is one of the best films in the series – often forgotten about as has Dalton as Bond!
    You and I might become friends now!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 18,098
    edited January 8
    Hammond and Boris staying in post - BBC
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 1,447

    Anazina said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    Anazina said:

    Anazina said:

    Anazina said:

    Sean_F said:

    Anazina said:

    Dadge said:

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.

    Carlotta is a one-woman Tory rebuttal bot operating under orders from Central Office.
    Pots and kettles.

    Guess again. Not a member of any party. Never will be.
    If your name, avatar and posting total is correct, you are new to politicalbetting.

    Within your grand total of 84 posts, I am yet to see a non-partisan, or non-trolling post from you.

    I'm sure there's more to you than that, so will wait to be impressed by the real you.
    My job is not to impress you, Mr Bond.
    Ah, so you have a job?

    Interesting.
    I am happily employed, thank you. By the way, I must congratulate you on your username. Casino Royale (the Craig version of course) is the best of all the Bond films. It is somewhat overlong and the scenes in Venice at the end could have been more concisely delivered, yet it remains the best of the series, narrowly edging out Goldfinger.
    Better than Moonraker?

    (Hides in corner)
    Ha ha! In seriousness, I think the Living Daylights is one of the best films in the series – often forgotten about as has Dalton as Bond!
    You and I might become friends now!
    Ha ha! I hope so. There are more important things than party reshuffles.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 24,532
    midwinter said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    murali_s said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    Absolutely pathetic. Only obsessives and partisans care about who’s tweeted what.

    What a small man your hero is.
    FFS, why can’t he post this? Some of you Tory loons are losing it...
    He can. My fire is targeted at Osborne, who is continuing to demonstrate the emotional maturity of a spoilt child.

    Gove was a giant by comparison when he was sacked. Then again, he cares about things greater than himself.
    Osborne was dismissed rudely by May but, in his behaviour since, he demonstrates some of the behaviours that led to his dismissal.
    Needlessly insulting and making an enemy of someone considerably more intelligent than herself was, perhaps, a lack of judgement.
    He's very intelligent. But his judgement wasn't always there.

    Most Tories started off as fans of George Osborne. I don't think he's ever done the self-reflection to work out why that changed.

    Everyone was a pawn in his game.
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 2,026

    Hammond and Boris staying in post - BBC

    How the hell did Boris stay in post? - he's totally rubbish, and I mean totally....
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 1,447

    Hammond and Boris staying in post - BBC

    This increasingly poorly named 'reshuffle' gets duller by the minute. Thank god for the Grayling gaffe otherwise it would have been a complete non-event!
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 11,501

    Hammond and Boris staying in post - BBC

    If Theresa had guts she'd move Hammond and Boris!
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 24,532
    Anazina said:

    Anazina said:

    Anazina said:

    Sean_F said:

    Anazina said:

    Dadge said:

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.

    Carlotta is a one-woman Tory rebuttal bot operating under orders from Central Office.
    Pots and kettles.

    Guess again. Not a member of any party. Never will be.
    If your name, avatar and posting total is correct, you are new to politicalbetting.

    Within your grand total of 84 posts, I am yet to see a non-partisan, or non-trolling post from you.

    I'm sure there's more to you than that, so will wait to be impressed by the real you.
    My job is not to impress you, Mr Bond.
    Ah, so you have a job?

    Interesting.
    I am happily employed, thank you. By the way, I must congratulate you on your username. Casino Royale (the Craig version of course) is the best of all the Bond films. It is somewhat overlong and the scenes in Venice at the end could have been more concisely delivered, yet it remains the best of the series, narrowly edging out Goldfinger.
    It is the best of the Craig films. Far better than the dirge that is Skyfall. I'd have trimmed the airport chase at the start, was a bit too long, and I agree the ending could have been crisper.

    Martin Campbell is a superb director.

    Fundamentally, you can tell the quality of a Bond film from how closely they stick to Fleming's source material.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 20,130
    This is a surprise:



    I'd expected the government to see quite an improvement after the December staging post was reached.
  • TheJezziahTheJezziah Posts: 923

    murali_s said:

    stevef said:

    Before anyone announces that the Tories are bound to lose the next election because of a Cabinet reshuffle cock up, let us remember the occasion when Jeremy Corbyn took three weeks to reshuffle his cabinet, ran out of MPs who were willing to serve under him, and then appointed and sacked as a shadow cabinet minister an MP who was having cancer treatment without informing her either way. And then decided that the country was crying out for Diane Abbott as Home Secretary. When it comes to incompetence there is only one unchallenged master.......

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-shadow-cabinet-thangam-debbonaire-cancer-a7141341.html

    Desperate switch and bait stuff there...

    Look in the mirror - the Tories need to be ejected out of power and quickly...
    Not going to happen for another 4 years
    In 4 years, Corbyn will look very stale. He won't fight that election.
    The only way Corbyn doesn't fight another election is if he decides not to or ill health / death. The first is unlikely and given his health and lifestyle the second would be surprising. Very slim chance of him not leading Labour into the next election, also I'm not sure his appeal his based on a style or a coolness that will get stale. More a perceived authenticity, a lot of problems which his approach might solve and just a different approach in general, these things probably have some sticking power.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 42,735
    murali_s said:

    Best wishes for a speedy recovery to James Brokenshire.

    +1
    Yes good luck to him, he went to school in Loughton near me
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 3,522
    This much-vaunted reshuffle is turning into an utter damp squib. So far we've just had a few lower-ranking nobodies moved about. What's going on? Are the big players just digging their heels in and Theresa's too timid to challenge them? I want a refund!
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 11,792
    edited January 8
    Lolz.

    'Can I haff a cup of your finest char, my dear'

  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 6,380
    No-one has been sacked yet. What a waste of time.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 24,532
    Anazina said:

    Osborne was dismissed rudely by May but, in his behaviour since, he demonstrates some of the behaviours that led to his dismissal.

    He's just doing his new job, quite exceptionally well.
    I disagree. I've stopped reading the Standard since he became editor.

    He junks more newsworthy stories just so he can fire another shot at May on the front-page.

    The man is consumed by revenge, which, to me, reveals a serious character flaw.


    If you don't read the Standard, how can you assess its current output?
    I can see the headlines every day home from work.

    If I get really bored on the train, I skim through to check if anything's changed.

    It hasn't.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 14,574

    No-one has been sacked yet. What a waste of time.

    McLoughlin has
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 13,665

    This is a surprise:



    I'd expected the government to see quite an improvement after the December staging post was reached.

    No surprise at all.

    Brexit wasn't about Brexit, it was about registering discontent and a protest about life. It is entirely natural, therefore, that this supposedly life-changing measure, which hasn't changed anyone's life (for the better) should itself be a source of discontent.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 6,380

    No-one has been sacked yet. What a waste of time.

    McLoughlin has
    I thought he wanted out?
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 3,522
    So DD hangs on too. There's got to be one high-profile sacking surely. If not Boris, Hammond or DD then what about Gove or Fox?
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 3,197
    If there is a Tory MP I detest more than Philip Davies, it's Bridgen.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 14,574

    No-one has been sacked yet. What a waste of time.

    McLoughlin has
    I thought he wanted out?
    He may have but he did not resign
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 42,735

    So DD hangs on too. There's got to be one high-profile sacking surely. If not Boris, Hammond or DD then what about Gove or Fox?

    Yes Davis stays Brexit Secretary

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Number10gov/status/950375354639749121
  • JohnO said:

    If there is a Tory MP I detest more than Philip Davies, it's Bridgen.
    Same here.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 14,574

    So DD hangs on too. There's got to be one high-profile sacking surely. If not Boris, Hammond or DD then what about Gove or Fox?

    Gove is not going anywhere
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 18,098

    Lolz.

    'Can I haff a cup of your finest char, my dear'

    Anybody seen his palm recently?

    http://indianajones.wikia.com/wiki/Arnold_Ernst_Toht
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 2,026
    edited January 8

    So DD hangs on too. There's got to be one high-profile sacking surely. If not Boris, Hammond or DD then what about Gove or Fox?

    Even though I despise Boris, Fox is the most obnoxious person in politics. To coin a phrase the guy is an an utter c*nt. As someone of Sri Lankan Tamil heritage, he should be no-where near the levers of power...
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 14,574
    murali_s said:

    So DD hangs on too. There's got to be one high-profile sacking surely. If not Boris, Hammond or DD then what about Gove or Fox?

    Even though I despise Boris, Fox is the most obnoxious person in politics. To coin a phrase the guy is an an utter c*nt. As someone of Sri Lankan Tamil heritage, he should be no-where near the levers of power...
    McDonnell gets that award
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 18,098
    Surprised it's so low. For many the EU porridge will be too hot, for many more, too cold.....

    But the final deal will end up in the Goldilocks zone.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 14,574

    Surprised it's so low. For many the EU porridge will be too hot, for many more, too cold.....

    But the final deal will end up in the Goldilocks zone.
    +1
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 37,213
    @PaulBrandITV: Source in Tory whips office tells me there is a clear attempt to put reshuffle at CCHQ on a par with cabinet reshuffle, to illustrate importance of reforming the Conservative Party. #reshuffle

    Talking only to the Party, not the country. How did that work out last time?
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 2,026

    murali_s said:

    So DD hangs on too. There's got to be one high-profile sacking surely. If not Boris, Hammond or DD then what about Gove or Fox?

    Even though I despise Boris, Fox is the most obnoxious person in politics. To coin a phrase the guy is an an utter c*nt. As someone of Sri Lankan Tamil heritage, he should be no-where near the levers of power...
    McDonnell gets that award
    As ever, Big_G, you miss the point....
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 14,574
    murali_s said:

    murali_s said:

    So DD hangs on too. There's got to be one high-profile sacking surely. If not Boris, Hammond or DD then what about Gove or Fox?

    Even though I despise Boris, Fox is the most obnoxious person in politics. To coin a phrase the guy is an an utter c*nt. As someone of Sri Lankan Tamil heritage, he should be no-where near the levers of power...
    McDonnell gets that award
    As ever, Big_G, you miss the point....
    Not really
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 42,735
    Scott_P said:

    @PaulBrandITV: Source in Tory whips office tells me there is a clear attempt to put reshuffle at CCHQ on a par with cabinet reshuffle, to illustrate importance of reforming the Conservative Party. #reshuffle

    Talking only to the Party, not the country. How did that work out last time?

    The problem last time was there was not enough talking to the base with the dementia tax etc.

    CCHQ also clearly needs reform
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 3,640
    Lidington moving might mean that Gove could return to Justice - he was doing some very good work there before.
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 14,169
    Scott_P said:
    She seems to have a perfectly reasonable stance to me. If the father killed the baby inside her, he'd no doubt be prosecuted. I don't see why there should be loopholes for the mother. The existing law is already quite liberal in practice for women wanting abortions.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 15,212

    Lolz.

    'Can I haff a cup of your finest char, my dear'

    Oh dear. Harris showing his ignorance. The Abwehr under Canaris spent almost the whole war undermining Hitler, helping Jews escape to neutral countries (Canaris appointed dozens of known Jewish officers and diplomats as spies to neutral countries where they promptly disappeared) and doing everything it could to make sure the Nazis lost. So much so that many of their members were eventually arrested and executed.
  • Torby_FennelTorby_Fennel Posts: 292



    Surprised it's so low. For many the EU porridge will be too hot, for many more, too cold.....

    But the final deal will end up in the Goldilocks zone.

    That's a very fair point. I think she'll end with with a deal that will satisfy a majority of people - but I'll not be one of them. That isn't to say that I'll think the deal is bad within its own terms but just that it won't match up to my own pro-EU political beliefs very well.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 42,735
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 2,026

    murali_s said:

    murali_s said:

    So DD hangs on too. There's got to be one high-profile sacking surely. If not Boris, Hammond or DD then what about Gove or Fox?

    Even though I despise Boris, Fox is the most obnoxious person in politics. To coin a phrase the guy is an an utter c*nt. As someone of Sri Lankan Tamil heritage, he should be no-where near the levers of power...
    McDonnell gets that award
    As ever, Big_G, you miss the point....
    Not really
    Yes, you do. Read up on Liam Fox and educate yourself...
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 14,574
    murali_s said:

    murali_s said:

    murali_s said:

    So DD hangs on too. There's got to be one high-profile sacking surely. If not Boris, Hammond or DD then what about Gove or Fox?

    Even though I despise Boris, Fox is the most obnoxious person in politics. To coin a phrase the guy is an an utter c*nt. As someone of Sri Lankan Tamil heritage, he should be no-where near the levers of power...
    McDonnell gets that award
    As ever, Big_G, you miss the point....
    Not really
    Yes, you do. Read up on Liam Fox and educate yourself...
    Do not patronise me
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 3,522

    Lolz.

    'Can I haff a cup of your finest char, my dear'

    Oh dear. Harris showing his ignorance. The Abwehr under Canaris spent almost the whole war undermining Hitler, helping Jews escape to neutral countries (Canaris appointed dozens of known Jewish officers and diplomats as spies to neutral countries where they promptly disappeared) and doing everything it could to make sure the Nazis lost. So much so that many of their members were eventually arrested and executed.
    I think Harris would, sort of, know that.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 9,989

    So DD hangs on too. There's got to be one high-profile sacking surely. If not Boris, Hammond or DD then what about Gove or Fox?

    Given how your ideas haven't exactly matched reality so far, probably not.
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 2,026
    edited January 8

    murali_s said:

    murali_s said:

    murali_s said:

    So DD hangs on too. There's got to be one high-profile sacking surely. If not Boris, Hammond or DD then what about Gove or Fox?

    Even though I despise Boris, Fox is the most obnoxious person in politics. To coin a phrase the guy is an an utter c*nt. As someone of Sri Lankan Tamil heritage, he should be no-where near the levers of power...
    McDonnell gets that award
    As ever, Big_G, you miss the point....
    Not really
    Yes, you do. Read up on Liam Fox and educate yourself...
    Do not patronise me
    I am not patronising you - I just want you to educate yourself.

    For your information, Liam Fox is an enemy of progress and an enemy of the Sri Lankan Tamil people. While David Cameron, William Hague and many other MPs from all political parties were trying to get a fair and just settlement by putting pressure on the then Sri Lankan Government of alleged war criminal Mahinda Rajapaksa, Liam Fox and a few other obnoxious Tory politicians (e.g. Lord Naseby) were cosying up to the said regime.

    So, yes in my opinion and hopefully the opinion of many others, Liam Fox is the most obnoxious person in British politics.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 18,424
    Scott_P said:
    Actually that is a very sensible move, making housing a high-profile priority and increasing the minister's clout in implementing it, without creating a new bureaucracy which would overlap with the current DCLG.
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