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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,221
    NEW THREAD >/b>
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,306
    Just back from Darkest Hour. It was very good but the tube episode seemed contrived and artificial. Could have done without it.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,005
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    stodge said:

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    stodge said:


    Expecting the children of anyone and everyone to have £100k to inherit while the rest of us pick up the tab for their parents' or grandparents' care is also wrong.

    In your socialist opinion
    Let me try to explain this in words even you might understand - currently my father's care will have to be m sure Jeremy will make you feel welcome.

    No, if you are no longer living in the home and in residential care then the home is sold to pay for it.

    If you are still living at home buy receive personal care then yes your savings can used to pay for it up to a point but the house you still living in should not be taken by the state, a judgement voters clearly made in June.

    May's problem was not raisng the assets untouched to £100k but including the value of the home in liability for personal at home care


    And you could actually argue by voting against the dementia tax people actually wanted the state to steal more of your house to fund social care as they wanted the threshold to stay at £23k not raise it to £100k.
    You could say that but you would be talking bollox
    Well it might be Bollox but that in fact is what they have done. Their kids and grandkids may now inherit only £23k between them whereas under the so called dementia tax they would have kept £100k.

    Patients with severe dementia can't really be cared for at home for long anyway - their relatives can't cope as they need round the clock care which few council care packages will cover even if you aren't self funding. The money goes on residential care - at £60k and more a year. That soon eats up house values outside the south east.
    The most sensible policy would have been to raise the threshold for care costs liability to £100k but keep the home immune from liability for personal at home care costs. That policy would have proved popular and got May an increased majority rather than the lost majority she ended up with
    It would also have cost the government a fortune. The whole point of the policy that was proposed was to save the government money by making those with assets use them to pay for their own care.
    They already do for residential care
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    OchEyeOchEye Posts: 1,469

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    Sky reporting on an attempt by some US/Trump supporters to make a non violent citizens arrest of Sadiq Khan at the opening of a Fabian conference this morning

    It does highlight how far Sadiq Khan had gone in creating even more division between the UK and US and all for short term political gain.



    I despise Trump who is a disaster but we do need to show respect to the US and all this nonsense is in such stark contrast to how Macron and France dealt with Trump.

    But Macron is a grown up politician unlike Khan

    You are wrong here. Sadiq is speaking on behalf of Londoners - very much in tune with the people.

    Racism must be called out and strongly condemned whenever it occurs.

    Well done Sadiq - proud of him!

    Let's not conflate Trump with the US.
    Let's not conflate people and institutions because therein lies the potential for all manner of double standards. Trump may be a deplorable man, but we respect the offlice of the POTUS.
    Yes - has Khan or anyone else criticised the office of the POTUS?

    Most democratic politicians accept that people will sometimes criticise them. The fact that Trump seems unusually touchy shouldn't mean we all have to shut up. His comments about others are a great deal worse than any comment made by any British politician.

    As for investment, investors really pay little attention to politicians squabbling - they look at the fundamentals of the investment prospect.
    Kahn has gone too far, effectively telling Trump to get lost. This disrespects both the man and the office. Trump's sins are largely rhetorical. We have rolled out the red carpet for characters whose laguage may have been more restrained but whose deeds have been far worse.
    To be fair, Trump has insulted and misrepresented Sadiq Khan on Twitter, particularly in the aftermath of the London Bridge attacks.

    Trump is a typical vain bully. He dishes it out but cannot take it.
    Khan effectively banning Trump from London is bizarre and self defeating
    It’s what us Londoners want. What is self defeating about calling a racist out - it’s leadership. I wish our country would have the balls to call it out too.

    Apologies for being rude but the mood here is very “f*ck off Trump”.
    Well maybe Londoners should emerge from their own fundament long enough to realise that they live in the capital of the UK, which performs a ceremonial function on these occasions - it's not *totall
    "Rump the Trump!"
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