You forgot to mention that Unionist support for the UK was at 36% with the rest wanting greater powers than they have now. Usual snivelling ltying Tory trick.
I really can't work out whether the questions asked in the poll were completely stupid or whether it is just the way that the Scotsman reported it that was idiotic. Probably both.
It was the old 3 options , with Devo Plus. Absolutely useless given Westminster don't want Devo Max. Just propaganda as ever
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
Indeed. Why anyone would think they'd be processed in a single-file queue is utterly bizarre. When have you ever gone to a single-file queue?
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
I've finally got round to reading All Out War. One comment that stood out from the pre-referendum manoeuvring was that Theresa May was judged to be more pro-European than Cameron.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
Indeed. Why anyone would think they'd be processed in a single-file queue is utterly bizarre. When have you ever gone to a single-file queue?
I don’t think sufficient information is provided to solve the maths problem. In any case - we have potentially 3 years to build more births/get new systems in place. For a competent government this should be doable.
I've finally got round to reading All Out War. One comment that stood out from the pre-referendum manoeuvring was that Theresa May was judged to be more pro-European than Cameron.
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
I suspect you're being deliberately obtuse, but the problem is a problem because there are not 6 queues, nor is there a plan to build or staff them (or there are 6 queues but they need 15, or 15 but they need 30 - you get the idea but you'll need to talk to HMRC for the exact numbers).
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
Indeed. Why anyone would think they'd be processed in a single-file queue is utterly bizarre. When have you ever gone to a single-file queue?
I don’t think sufficient information is provided to solve the maths problem. In any case - we have potentially 3 years to build more births/get new systems in place. For a competent government this should be doable.
Hmm. Not really a difficult choice. A father of 8 or a man who divorced his wife and abandoned his son for political reasons.
A father of 8 who appears rather keen to abandon some of the duties of being a father onto a paid servant?
You could say the same of anyone who puts their child into child care each day.
Anyway I was not endorsing JRM, just going along with the comparison Mike made. I don't want either to be PM but would choose a JRM over Corbyn any day. A man who puts his political ideology ahead of his family is a true fanatic.
Maybe Corbyn felt it was best for his child not to go to a grammar school and that if he and his wife disagreed on something so fundamental it was best for the child concerned that they did not stay together. I am no fan, but there does not seem to be any evidence whatsoever to suggest he is anything other than a very good, loving father. I am sure exactly the same can be said for Jacob Rees Mogg.
But the child ended up going where the mother wanted anyway. He just did it from a broken family. I genuinely fond the idea abhorrent.
If people disagree so profoundly on such a basic issue of parenting then a subsequent separation is no huge surprise and could well be best for the child concerned; the alternative being the parents at constant loggerheads and the child blaming him/herself. Thankfully, I have never been in such a situation.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
Indeed. Why anyone would think they'd be processed in a single-file queue is utterly bizarre. When have you ever gone to a single-file queue?
I don’t think sufficient information is provided to solve the maths problem. In any case - we have potentially 3 years to build more births/get new systems in place. For a competent government this should be doable.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Scottish sub-sample a bit bonkers, though.
Especially given a real poll the other day showed SNP up and Labour flat.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
Very possibly. He was brilliant at opposition politics.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
Tony would be campaigning to stay in. I think it unlikely that would get to 65% in the polls.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
Doubt we would be leaving the EU if Blair in his prime lead remain
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
Indeed. Why anyone would think they'd be processed in a single-file queue is utterly bizarre. When have you ever gone to a single-file queue?
I don’t think sufficient information is provided to solve the maths problem. In any case - we have potentially 3 years to build more births/get new systems in place. For a competent government this should be doable.
The world's moved on since all of this travel business was invented. We should use modern concepts now.
Instead of a FIFO queue at our ports, we should make it a LIFO queue.
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
I suspect you're being deliberately obtuse, but the problem is a problem because there are not 6 queues, nor is there a plan to build or staff them (or there are 6 queues but they need 15, or 15 but they need 30 - you get the idea but you'll need to talk to HMRC for the exact numbers).
There's no plan to build six or however many extra booths currently because there's negotiations still ongoing to determine our future relationship - the booths may be unnecessary. If booths become necessary then we have roughly 3 years to build a few booths - not the end of the world.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
Doubt we would be leaving the EU if Blair in his prime lead remain
True in his pomp 1997 to 2001 he would have won any referendum regarding Europe.However he had a greater challenge to stop him, Brown and Balls.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
Tony would be campaigning to stay in. I think it unlikely that would get to 65% in the polls.
No he wouldn't be so stupid as to commit to that when his enemy is making so many mistakes.
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
I suspect you're being deliberately obtuse, but the problem is a problem because there are not 6 queues, nor is there a plan to build or staff them (or there are 6 queues but they need 15, or 15 but they need 30 - you get the idea but you'll need to talk to HMRC for the exact numbers).
There's no plan to build six or however many extra booths currently because there's negotiations still ongoing to determine our future relationship - the booths may be unnecessary. If booths become necessary then we have roughly 3 years to build a few booths - not the end of the world.
It's not just a 'few booths': it's the queues and the other infrastructure to do with it. And the problem with that might be a lack of space, which might be impossible to solve due to physical constraints.
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
I suspect you're being deliberately obtuse, but the problem is a problem because there are not 6 queues, nor is there a plan to build or staff them (or there are 6 queues but they need 15, or 15 but they need 30 - you get the idea but you'll need to talk to HMRC for the exact numbers).
There's no plan to build six or however many extra booths currently because there's negotiations still ongoing to determine our future relationship - the booths may be unnecessary. If booths become necessary then we have roughly 3 years to build a few booths - not the end of the world.
It's not just a 'few booths': it's the queues and the other infrastructure to do with it. And the problem with that might be a lack of space, which might be impossible to solve due to physical constraints.
I am totally baffled by the popularity of a man who makes mr chumley Warner look like a leftie. It is 2018, not 1818.
I think it's mostly the novelty, like, some museum exhibit. And for the Tories someone who appears to guard the true flame (the one they had before Cameron replaced it with that blue-green one-legged elephant thingy).
If by some mishap he became PM his honeymoon wouldn't last more than five minutes.
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
I suspect you're being deliberately obtuse, but the problem is a problem because there are not 6 queues, nor is there a plan to build or staff them (or there are 6 queues but they need 15, or 15 but they need 30 - you get the idea but you'll need to talk to HMRC for the exact numbers).
There's no plan to build six or however many extra booths currently because there's negotiations still ongoing to determine our future relationship - the booths may be unnecessary. If booths become necessary then we have roughly 3 years to build a few booths - not the end of the world.
To quote some vapid bilge a great philosopher, that is pure handwaving, and epitomises the JRMs and BoJos of this world.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
Very possibly. He was brilliant at opposition politics.
Just a shame it was all smoke and mirrors and he turned out to.be such an atrocious PM.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
Very possibly. He was brilliant at opposition politics.
Just a shame it was all smoke and mirrors and he turned out to.be such an atrocious PM.
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
I suspect you're being deliberately obtuse, but the problem is a problem because there are not 6 queues, nor is there a plan to build or staff them (or there are 6 queues but they need 15, or 15 but they need 30 - you get the idea but you'll need to talk to HMRC for the exact numbers).
There's no plan to build six or however many extra booths currently because there's negotiations still ongoing to determine our future relationship - the booths may be unnecessary. If booths become necessary then we have roughly 3 years to build a few booths - not the end of the world.
It's not just a 'few booths': it's the queues and the other infrastructure to do with it. And the problem with that might be a lack of space, which might be impossible to solve due to physical constraints.
Yet funnily enough neither are government, nor the French, nor the Dutch or any other nation are exactly panicking into building this. It's almost as if its an imaginary problem imagined in the same fevered Remainiac brains that brought us claims like an immediate recession if we voted to leave.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
Very possibly. He was brilliant at opposition politics.
Just a shame it was all smoke and mirrors and he turned out to.be such an atrocious PM.
It's interesting to consider how different Blair's government would have been if he had removed Brown from being Chancellor in 2001, as apparently he considered. Since much of Labour's toxicity came from Brown's camp, would the following nine years have provided better government, without a chancellor quite so openly coveting his boss' job?
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
These poll increases for the Conservatives are extraordinary given the barrage of anti Government propaganda on BBC,Sky News and Channel 4. I deduce that the electorate are saying: "Just get on with it. No election. Just deliver Brexit. Let Mrs May do what we elected her to do. And by the way we don't trust the other lot to do any better." For what it is worth I think that the British people are behaving, as ever, with characteristic common sense and calm. Unlike our media.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
Very possibly. He was brilliant at opposition politics.
Just a shame it was all smoke and mirrors and he turned out to.be such an atrocious PM.
It's interesting to consider how different Blair's government would have been if he had removed Brown from being Chancellor in 2001, as apparently he considered. Since much of Labour's toxicity came from Brown's camp, would the following nine years have provided better government, without a chancellor quite so openly coveting his boss' job?
Letting frank field do the “unthinkable” would have solved a huge number of issues too.
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
I suspect you're being deliberately obtuse, but the problem is a problem because there are not 6 queues, nor is there a plan to build or staff them (or there are 6 queues but they need 15, or 15 but they need 30 - you get the idea but you'll need to talk to HMRC for the exact numbers).
There's no plan to build six or however many extra booths currently because there's negotiations still ongoing to determine our future relationship - the booths may be unnecessary. If booths become necessary then we have roughly 3 years to build a few booths - not the end of the world.
It's not just a 'few booths': it's the queues and the other infrastructure to do with it. And the problem with that might be a lack of space, which might be impossible to solve due to physical constraints.
Yet funnily enough neither are government, nor the French, nor the Dutch or any other nation are exactly panicking into building this. It's almost as if its an imaginary problem imagined in the same fevered Remainiac brains that brought us claims like an immediate recession if we voted to leave.
Possibly. I was just reacting to the 'build a few booths' comment, which as an engineer I found funny.
Management: just do this. Engineering: (stares at the task and laughs): right, I'm off.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
These poll increases for the Conservatives are extraordinary given the barrage of anti Government propaganda on BBC,Sky News and Channel 4. I deduce that the electorate are saying: "Just get on with it. No election. Just deliver Brexit. Let Mrs May do what we elected her to do. And by the way we don't trust the other lot to do any better." For what it is worth I think that the British people are behaving, as ever, with characteristic common sense and calm. Unlike our media.
The polls are clearly being distorted by the number of people working away from home in Kent building the world's largest lorry park. Or something.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
These poll increases for the Conservatives are extraordinary given the barrage of anti Government propaganda on BBC,Sky News and Channel 4. I deduce that the electorate are saying: "Just get on with it. No election. Just deliver Brexit. Let Mrs May do what we elected her to do. And by the way we don't trust the other lot to do any better." For what it is worth I think that the British people are behaving, as ever, with characteristic common sense and calm. Unlike our media.
It is a bit like when we got the barrage of cuts, cuts, cuts, back to Wigan pier stuff. Watching CNN I think is maybe why trump has seen an uplift, the 24/7 trump is a total utter disaster over every single decision.
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
I suspect you're being deliberately obtuse, but the problem is a problem because there are not 6 queues, nor is there a plan to build or staff them (or there are 6 queues but they need 15, or 15 but they need 30 - you get the idea but you'll need to talk to HMRC for the exact numbers).
There's no plan to build six or however many extra booths currently because there's negotiations still ongoing to determine our future relationship - the booths may be unnecessary. If booths become necessary then we have roughly 3 years to build a few booths - not the end of the world.
It's not just a 'few booths': it's the queues and the other infrastructure to do with it. And the problem with that might be a lack of space, which might be impossible to solve due to physical constraints.
Yet funnily enough neither are government, nor the French, nor the Dutch or any other nation are exactly panicking into building this. It's almost as if its an imaginary problem imagined in the same fevered Remainiac brains that brought us claims like an immediate recession if we voted to leave.
It's almost as if May and Davis have given them a nod and a wink that they are just posturing for domestic consumption.
The Conservatives would have to work very hard to find someone I wouldn't back against the likes of Corbyn.
If he were replaced by someone even like Ed Miliband or Yvette Cooper, *and* the Conservatives continued being lacklustre (to be polite) then I'd have to consider my vote. But with Corbyn as Labour leader there's no need. I can't back a terrorist-sympathising, economically innumerate, historically illiterate creature to be PM, nor John McDonnell, who wants no Tory MP to be able to go out in public without being hounded, to be Chancellor.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
These poll increases for the Conservatives are extraordinary given the barrage of anti Government propaganda on BBC,Sky News and Channel 4. I deduce that the electorate are saying: "Just get on with it. No election. Just deliver Brexit. Let Mrs May do what we elected her to do. And by the way we don't trust the other lot to do any better." For what it is worth I think that the British people are behaving, as ever, with characteristic common sense and calm. Unlike our media.
It is a bit like when we got the barrage of cuts, cuts, cuts, back to Wigan pier stuff. Watching CNN I think is maybe why trump has seen an uplift, the 24/7 trump is a total utter disaster over every single decision.
People do not readily switch parties in the year following an election.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
These poll increases for the Conservatives are extraordinary given the barrage of anti Government propaganda on BBC,Sky News and Channel 4. I deduce that the electorate are saying: "Just get on with it. No election. Just deliver Brexit. Let Mrs May do what we elected her to do. And by the way we don't trust the other lot to do any better." For what it is worth I think that the British people are behaving, as ever, with characteristic common sense and calm. Unlike our media.
I think the media have attempted to take out TM and the public are ignoring them judging that she is a serious politician doing her best.
The NHS crisis with its daily travails week on week, month on month, are cutting through but the debate seems to maturing into it is not just money but a complete rethink is needed to make it fit for the next 50 years.
And cross party support is the only way to come up with a solution for the NHS and integrated Social care
The Conservatives would have to work very hard to find someone I wouldn't back against the likes of Corbyn.
If he were replaced by someone even like Ed Miliband or Yvette Cooper, *and* the Conservatives continued being lacklustre (to be polite) then I'd have to consider my vote. But with Corbyn as Labour leader there's no need. I can't back a terrorist-sympathising, economically innumerate, historically illiterate creature to be PM, nor John McDonnell, who wants no Tory MP to be able to go out in public without being hounded, to be Chancellor.
Anyway, I must be off.
It's not a two-party system. You could look at the Lib Dems or, God forbid, the Greens, and decide that they present a better vision for the country and an ability to deliver.
It feel strange to try to self-evaluate my view on Boris and Mogg. Both are electorally repellent to me in various ways: but I could see myself voting for Boris, but not for Mogg. I'm unsure that reflects well on me.
If Tony Blair had never been PM the UK would never have voted to leave the EU.
Not sure about that. I think that after black Wednesday the Tories were increasingly hostile to the EU. Cameron and Osborne held back the tide for a while forcing the party to think about other things, like winning elections, but the trend was remorseless and continues to this day.
The Conservatives would have to work very hard to find someone I wouldn't back against the likes of Corbyn.
If he were replaced by someone even like Ed Miliband or Yvette Cooper, *and* the Conservatives continued being lacklustre (to be polite) then I'd have to consider my vote. But with Corbyn as Labour leader there's no need. I can't back a terrorist-sympathising, economically innumerate, historically illiterate creature to be PM, nor John McDonnell, who wants no Tory MP to be able to go out in public without being hounded, to be Chancellor.
Anyway, I must be off.
It's not a two-party system. You could look at the Lib Dems or, God forbid, the Greens, and decide that they present a better vision for the country and an ability to deliver.
It feel strange to try to self-evaluate my view on Boris and Mogg. Both are electorally repellent to me in various ways: but I could see myself voting for Boris, but not for Mogg. I'm unsure that reflects well on me.
Who are these Lib Dem’s which you speak of? AND aren’t the greens just maomentum light.
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
I suspect you're being deliberately obtuse, but the problem is a problem because there are not 6 queues, nor is there a plan to build or staff them (or there are 6 queues but they need 15, or 15 but they need 30 - you get the idea but you'll need to talk to HMRC for the exact numbers).
There's no plan to build six or however many extra booths currently because there's negotiations still ongoing to determine our future relationship - the booths may be unnecessary. If booths become necessary then we have roughly 3 years to build a few booths - not the end of the world.
It's not just a 'few booths': it's the queues and the other infrastructure to do with it. And the problem with that might be a lack of space, which might be impossible to solve due to physical constraints.
Yet funnily enough neither are government, nor the French, nor the Dutch or any other nation are exactly panicking into building this. It's almost as if its an imaginary problem imagined in the same fevered Remainiac brains that brought us claims like an immediate recession if we voted to leave.
Or that the government knows how the story will have to end, at least for a lengthy transition period.
JRM's rise, and the last thread (indeed, many others), shows the main problem with Brexit.
It is not about customs union, free movement and everything else. The UK has historically been very good at muddling through, and whatever is decided, we'd probably muddle through, albeit at some cost.
However everything is being subsumed through the prism of Brexit. Every other question - especially good governance - is subservient.
It's become a religious, doctrinal conflict within the Conservative party: it doesn't matter if you're as loathsome as Leadsom, or as backwards as JRM: if you're a pure, true believer, then you're okay. If the Conservative party was having this religious war in opposition then it wouldn't matter as much. But they're not. They're in government.
And they're f'ing clueless.
I mean, JRM. For f'sake. Can someone try to convince me of any positive qualities he possesses for leader of the party, yet alone PM?
He’s nice, very smart, self depreciating, has principles (in spades)... and he doesn’t want the job
I'm not sure his antediluvian principles are universally agreed to be a positive.
Oh I disagree with him on most things, but it’s good that we have leaders with principles... providing they are flexible and pragmatic...
The Conservatives would have to work very hard to find someone I wouldn't back against the likes of Corbyn.
If he were replaced by someone even like Ed Miliband or Yvette Cooper, *and* the Conservatives continued being lacklustre (to be polite) then I'd have to consider my vote. But with Corbyn as Labour leader there's no need. I can't back a terrorist-sympathising, economically innumerate, historically illiterate creature to be PM, nor John McDonnell, who wants no Tory MP to be able to go out in public without being hounded, to be Chancellor.
Anyway, I must be off.
It's not a two-party system. You could look at the Lib Dems or, God forbid, the Greens, and decide that they present a better vision for the country and an ability to deliver.
It feel strange to try to self-evaluate my view on Boris and Mogg. Both are electorally repellent to me in various ways: but I could see myself voting for Boris, but not for Mogg. I'm unsure that reflects well on me.
Who are these Lib Dem’s which you speak of? AND aren’t the greens just maomentum light.
Sadly, that's exactly what the Invisible Man has turned the Lib Dems into: an invisible entity.
Just when the country needs a Third Way.
As for the Greens: I only included them to pull Mr Dancer's chain.
If Tony Blair had never been PM the UK would never have voted to leave the EU.
Not sure about that. I think that after black Wednesday the Tories were increasingly hostile to the EU. Cameron and Osborne held back the tide for a while forcing the party to think about other things, like winning elections, but the trend was remorseless and continues to this day.
I think the trend has stopped. All the bright young things who care about their careers are quietly dropping the Brexit rhetoric from their repertoire because they can see which way the wind is blowing.
If Tony Blair had never been PM the UK would never have voted to leave the EU.
Not sure about that. I think that after black Wednesday the Tories were increasingly hostile to the EU. Cameron and Osborne held back the tide for a while forcing the party to think about other things, like winning elections, but the trend was remorseless and continues to this day.
I think the trend has stopped. All the bright young things who care about their careers are quietly dropping the Brexit rhetoric from their repertoire because they can see which way the wind is blowing.
Or that the decision has been made and it will not be an issue for the next election/leader.
Jacob Rees-Mogg is like an amalgam of Boris Johnson and Daniel Hannan but far more politically interesting than either of them. He's a danger to Brexit because his clarity of argument will inevitably lead to him making the case that it is a pointless waste of time.
If he's nimble enough he can corner the market for true believers, and then outmanoeuvre everyone by being the first to back Remain.
Jacob Rees-Mogg is like an amalgam of Boris Johnson and Daniel Hannan but far more politically interesting than either of them. He's a danger to Brexit because his clarity of argument will inevitably lead to him making the case that it is a pointless waste of time.
If he's nimble enough he can corner the market for true believers, and then outmanoeuvre everyone by being the first to back Remain.
Sounds like Grayling is letting Stagecoach/Virgin walk away from the East Coast Franchise in the very near future. I don't think the franchise holder can argue that their problems now are the result of NR not delivering on enhancements (as they had argued for the years beyond 2020).
The argument for bringing the franchises back into public management just got a lot stronger.
If Tony Blair had never been PM the UK would never have voted to leave the EU.
Not sure about that. I think that after black Wednesday the Tories were increasingly hostile to the EU. Cameron and Osborne held back the tide for a while forcing the party to think about other things, like winning elections, but the trend was remorseless and continues to this day.
I think it started with Delors speech challenging Thatcher. The famous Sun headline "Up Yours Delors" was in November 1990 and that was when Thatcher went very cool on the EU. Black Wednesday, in September 1992, put the tin hat on mirroring the Euro and it's been downhill for The EU in the Tory Party since then.
EDIT: It wouldn't be unfair to blame Brexit on Delors.
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
I suspect you're being deliberately obtuse, but the problem is a problem because there are not 6 queues, nor is there a plan to build or staff them (or there are 6 queues but they need 15, or 15 but they need 30 - you get the idea but you'll need to talk to HMRC for the exact numbers).
There's no plan to build six or however many extra booths currently because there's negotiations still ongoing to determine our future relationship - the booths may be unnecessary. If booths become necessary then we have roughly 3 years to build a few booths - not the end of the world.
It's not just a 'few booths': it's the queues and the other infrastructure to do with it. And the problem with that might be a lack of space, which might be impossible to solve due to physical constraints.
Yet funnily enough neither are government, nor the French, nor the Dutch or any other nation are exactly panicking into building this. It's almost as if its an imaginary problem imagined in the same fevered Remainiac brains that brought us claims like an immediate recession if we voted to leave.
Nah the Brexit fairy will come down in the night and build a hard border at Dover and across Ireland manned by an unspecified neutral taskforce of border guards employed by neither side and who will carry out their checks only on goods leaving Britain - paid for of course by the Uk.
Everyone will shrug and say hey such an asymmetric outcome is unavoidable lets suck it up.
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
Very possibly. He was brilliant at opposition politics.
Just a shame it was all smoke and mirrors and he turned out to.be such an atrocious PM.
JRM's rise, and the last thread (indeed, many others), shows the main problem with Brexit.
It is not about customs union, free movement and everything else. The UK has historically been very good at muddling through, and whatever is decided, we'd probably muddle through, albeit at some cost.
However everything is being subsumed through the prism of Brexit. Every other question - especially good governance - is subservient.
It's become a religious, doctrinal conflict within the Conservative party: it doesn't matter if you're as loathsome as Leadsom, or as backwards as JRM: if you're a pure, true believer, then you're okay. If the Conservative party was having this religious war in opposition then it wouldn't matter as much. But they're not. They're in government.
And they're f'ing clueless.
I mean, JRM. For f'sake. Can someone try to convince me of any positive qualities he possesses for leader of the party, yet alone PM?
He’s nice, very smart, self depreciating, has principles (in spades)... and he doesn’t want the job
Nice people do not make up evidence-free conspiracy theories about people who are unable to respond.
Genuine question. Do you think the pre-referendum civil service forecasts were made in good faith?
Yes. Have you any evidence that they were not?
The long-term economic forecast looks on track, though it's early days of course.
I suspect the forecasts were made in good faith but the assumptions were carefully selected. As we know from Mcbride’s book it’s the Chancellor who makes the final decision on the forecasts.
So in the matter of the pre-referendum civil service forecasts the evidence would suggest they are innocent and Osborne is guilty
Jacob Rees-Mogg is like an amalgam of Boris Johnson and Daniel Hannan but far more politically interesting than either of them. He's a danger to Brexit because his clarity of argument will inevitably lead to him making the case that it is a pointless waste of time.
If he's nimble enough he can corner the market for true believers, and then outmanoeuvre everyone by being the first to back Remain.
I think that is Boris's trump card - after the members have elected him leader.
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
I spoke to someone in the haulage industry about this back pre-Christmas. Lorries already park up for an hour or two to wait for processing that takes a couple of minutes. The seven minutes can be fitted in the same timeframe - you just need more staff
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.
These poll increases for the Conservatives are extraordinary given the barrage of anti Government propaganda on BBC,Sky News and Channel 4. I deduce that the electorate are saying: "Just get on with it. No election. Just deliver Brexit. Let Mrs May do what we elected her to do. And by the way we don't trust the other lot to do any better." For what it is worth I think that the British people are behaving, as ever, with characteristic common sense and calm. Unlike our media.
The polls are clearly being distorted by the number of people working away from home in Kent building the world's largest lorry park. Or something.
Or all those Remainers seeing that Brexit will really happen - and heading off for pastures new in Tuscany or Provence.
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
I spoke to someone in the haulage industry about this back pre-Christmas. Lorries already park up for an hour or two to wait for processing that takes a couple of minutes. The seven minutes can be fitted in the same timeframe - you just need more staff
You would never get queues in the wonderful open border EU.
Jeremy Hunt is right to tell Donald Trump where he can shove his remarks about the British NHS, but he is mistaken to think Britain was the first country to introduce universal healthcare. That wasn't Bismarck's Germany either. It was the USSR, under Nikolai Semashko.
Jeremy Hunt is right to tell Donald Trump where he can shove his remarks about the British NHS, but he is mistaken to think Britain was the first country to introduce universal healthcare. That wasn't Bismarck's Germany either. It was the USSR, under Nikolai Semashko.
Jeremy Hunt is right to tell Donald Trump where he can shove his remarks about the British NHS, but he is mistaken to think Britain was the first country to introduce universal healthcare. That wasn't Bismarck's Germany either. It was the USSR, under Nikolai Semashko.
Jacob Rees-Mogg is like an amalgam of Boris Johnson and Daniel Hannan but far more politically interesting than either of them. He's a danger to Brexit because his clarity of argument will inevitably lead to him making the case that it is a pointless waste of time.
If he's nimble enough he can corner the market for true believers, and then outmanoeuvre everyone by being the first to back Remain.
I think that is Boris's trump card - after the members have elected him leader.
Having just finished All Out War, it’s fascinating to observe the “journey” Brexiters have made in the past 18 months.
David Davis campaigned with Farage. He’s now thought to want a very soft Brexit and is making common cause with Hammond.
Boris, meanwhile, was on the fence and thought a first referendum might be a way of extracting concessions before a second vote. He’s now aligned himself with the hard-as-fuck Brexit group.
Davis presumably has been mugged by reality, whereas Boris in the FO is free to figure out whatever position might be the best route to the top job.
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.
See the problem?
Nope. Would give them something to do in the 45 minutes they spend hanging around waiting to get off the boat.
Is that only a 1 hour processing time for 50 lorries in 6 queues? That seems very quick.
I suspect you're being deliberately obtuse, but the problem is a problem because there are not 6 queues, nor is there a plan to build or staff them (or there are 6 queues but they need 15, or 15 but they need 30 - you get the idea but you'll need to talk to HMRC for the exact numbers).
There's no plan to build six or however many extra booths currently because there's negotiations still ongoing to determine our future relationship - the booths may be unnecessary. If booths become necessary then we have roughly 3 years to build a few booths - not the end of the world.
It's not just a 'few booths': it's the queues and the other infrastructure to do with it. And the problem with that might be a lack of space, which might be impossible to solve due to physical constraints.
Yet funnily enough neither are government, nor the French, nor the Dutch or any other nation are exactly panicking into building this. It's almost as if its an imaginary problem imagined in the same fevered Remainiac brains that brought us claims like an immediate recession if we voted to leave.
Possibly. I was just reacting to the 'build a few booths' comment, which as an engineer I found funny.
Management: just do this. Engineering: (stares at the task and laughs): right, I'm off.
Apart from his medieval Papist views on abortion and Brexit - can anyone name an extreme/stark JRM policy ?
JRM policy on abortion is not "medieval Papist". While he personally supports the teaching of the Church, as do millions of others, he accepts that ending abortion rights will never command a consensus and he will not seek to impose it.
Jacob Rees-Mogg is like an amalgam of Boris Johnson and Daniel Hannan but far more politically interesting than either of them. He's a danger to Brexit because his clarity of argument will inevitably lead to him making the case that it is a pointless waste of time.
If he's nimble enough he can corner the market for true believers, and then outmanoeuvre everyone by being the first to back Remain.
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@EuropeElects
2h2 hours ago
Germany, Forsa poll:
CDU/CSU-EPP: 33% (-1)
SPD-S&D: 18%
GRÜNE-G/EFA: 13% (+1)
AfD-EFDD: 13% (+1)
LINKE-LEFT: 9% (-1)
FDP-ALDE: 9%
Field work: 29/01/18–02/02/18
Sample size: 2,507
In any case - we have potentially 3 years to build more births/get new systems in place.
For a competent government this should be doable.
But was she more pro-EU than Boy George?
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2018/02/yes-there-was-youthquake-2017-snap-election-and-it-mattered
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42950608
I think it unlikely that would get to 65% in the polls.
Instead of a FIFO queue at our ports, we should make it a LIFO queue.
If you want to be a contrarian kid that riles his parents, this year they will have a poster on their walls of the Moggster.
Season 1 was truly excellent.
(As, to be fair, was the hand egg final!)
https://youtu.be/qUmfriZoMw0
If by some mishap he became PM his honeymoon wouldn't last more than five minutes.
"Moggy Moggy Moggy. Out Out Out!"
Management: just do this.
Engineering: (stares at the task and laughs): right, I'm off.
A Mogg-Corbyn contest would be stark, if nothing else.
The Conservatives would have to work very hard to find someone I wouldn't back against the likes of Corbyn.
If he were replaced by someone even like Ed Miliband or Yvette Cooper, *and* the Conservatives continued being lacklustre (to be polite) then I'd have to consider my vote. But with Corbyn as Labour leader there's no need. I can't back a terrorist-sympathising, economically innumerate, historically illiterate creature to be PM, nor John McDonnell, who wants no Tory MP to be able to go out in public without being hounded, to be Chancellor.
Anyway, I must be off.
The NHS crisis with its daily travails week on week, month on month, are cutting through but the debate seems to maturing into it is not just money but a complete rethink is needed to make it fit for the next 50 years.
And cross party support is the only way to come up with a solution for the NHS and integrated Social care
It feel strange to try to self-evaluate my view on Boris and Mogg. Both are electorally repellent to me in various ways: but I could see myself voting for Boris, but not for Mogg. I'm unsure that reflects well on me.
Just when the country needs a Third Way.
As for the Greens: I only included them to pull Mr Dancer's chain.
If he's nimble enough he can corner the market for true believers, and then outmanoeuvre everyone by being the first to back Remain.
The argument for bringing the franchises back into public management just got a lot stronger.
For those spoiling their ballots, just make sure to write/draw something rude against BOTH names...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-32693485
EDIT: It wouldn't be unfair to blame Brexit on Delors.
Stark, staring bonkers.
Everyone will shrug and say hey such an asymmetric outcome is unavoidable lets suck it up.
Its totally believable.
So in the matter of the pre-referendum civil service forecasts the evidence would suggest they are innocent and Osborne is guilty
Or Hungary.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3264628/spain-resorts-to-bully-boy-tactics-on-gibraltar-border-delaying-brits-for-five-hours-by-increasing-security-checks-after-rock-row/
The property landlord said: "I have been here two hours already and the police are saying it will take another three hours easily.
""That’s five hours and all because Spain is being a bully and flexing her muscles. They are just trying to intimidate the British and cause problems"
Sounds like his nuclear weapon could be decommissioned ..
David Davis campaigned with Farage. He’s now thought to want a very soft Brexit and is making common cause with Hammond.
Boris, meanwhile, was on the fence and thought a first referendum might be a way of extracting concessions before a second vote. He’s now aligned himself with the hard-as-fuck Brexit group.
Davis presumably has been mugged by reality, whereas Boris in the FO is free to figure out whatever position might be the best route to the top job.
Good evening, everyone.