With 533 more votes in the right place, May would have a majority. With ~2,000 extra votes judiciously applied, we'd have PM Corbyn (and presumably many here would be in the Gulag).
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
It's one of the tenets of Salafism - the pure wine of the Caliphate has been diluted by endless hadiths and sundry other compromises with the secular world. It's a little like Old Testament Judaism - the reason there are so many ills in the Islamic world is because the people have strayed from the True Path.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
There's certainly a moral case for Mr Corbyn to try to form a government in the case of TMay losing a vote of no confidence.Should he be able to secure a working arrangement of some sort with the LDs,SNP and Greens,he would represent 52% of those who voted in GE2017,a good basis for the validation of a minority government.Some might say it's "the Will of The People".
True, though I expect the new Tory Leader of the Opposition would relish fighting a Corbyn minority government propped up by the SNP, LDs and Greens at the next general election
There is a live test of more or less this scenario going on in New Zealand right now. I think Labour would head into a definite poll lead here if it happened, at the expense of Lib Dem and (In Scotland) SNP share.
First that poll is barely a few months after the general election and second the Nationals are still in front on voteshare (and almost certainly seats on that poll) and third Ardern is not Corbyn, after all she once worked for Blair.
A Corbyn government would likely be as unpopular as the administration of Francois Hollande within a few years and if Hollande had stood for re election and not Macron he would have lost to the UMP candidate by a landslide
We dont have a proportional system in the UK -we have a seats based system. You are also giving Corbyn 52% of the vote by handing over the Lib Dem vote to Corbyn. LIb Dems are not Corbynites and are opposed to most of his programme. You cannot just tot up all those who did not vote Tory and assume they are all pro Corbyn.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
It's one of the tenets of Salafism - the pure wine of the Caliphate has been diluted by endless hadiths and sundry other compromises with the secular world. It's a little like Old Testament Judaism - the reason there are so many ills in the Islamic world is because the people have strayed from the True Path.
I’d make a great Caliph.
First Hadith - Stop killing people you twats.
Second Hadith - You do realise the 72 virgins are all male.
The line of thought is simple enough, I grant you.
I saw a theory recently that some of the motivation for the Leave was a rejection of complexity.
Life was simpler when everybody you met spoke English (only)
Life was simpler when our passports were Blue.
It would be simpler to use the NHS if the waiting rooms were empty.
A Free trade deal with the EU will be the simplest in history. We can get it done in an afternoon.
If that is true, it begs the question what happens when Brexit increases the complexity of life in almost every area.
The Leavers will blame everyone else for not doing Brexit the correct way. Presumably the deportations will start soon after...
Don’t worry, David Davis and Liam Fox will be in charge of the deportations.
Those two cock juggling thunder twats are so incompetent they’ll end up deporting Leavers and importing loads of EU citizens.
Joking aside I wasn’t shocked last year when a Leaver talked about repatriation of Indians.
An inevitable consequence of things like the Breaking Point posters.
I am quite convinced that there is a lot of closet racism and xenophobia on the Leave side. None of their arguments about "taking back control" or "better trade agreements" or (god forbid) "the importance of blue passports" make any sense when closely examined.
If they think that, post Brexit, we are going to be living in a biscuit-tin copy of a Cotswold village then they are all off their trolleys.
They can do what the hell they like. I no longer care. If an opportunity arises to stop Brexit I will give it my backing as is my democratic right in a free society, but however Brexit turns out, the responsibility for it is with "Leave". This is project, their vision and their dream. If it goes belly-up then it is their fault too.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
It's one of the tenets of Salafism - the pure wine of the Caliphate has been diluted by endless hadiths and sundry other compromises with the secular world. It's a little like Old Testament Judaism - the reason there are so many ills in the Islamic world is because the people have strayed from the True Path.
So basically Islamists act in exactly the same way as the far left excusing the disaster that is Venezuela?
Explains the joint problem with antisemitism, I suppose.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
It's one of the tenets of Salafism - the pure wine of the Caliphate has been diluted by endless hadiths and sundry other compromises with the secular world. It's a little like Old Testament Judaism - the reason there are so many ills in the Islamic world is because the people have strayed from the True Path.
I’d make a great Caliph.
First Hadith - Stop killing people you twats.
Second Hadith - You do realise the 72 virgins are all male.
On the party being split, there are more of us then there are of them. Eventually the last EUphiles will be removed from the party and there will be no split. The last EUsceptic split was 93 MPs the last EUphile split was 12 MPs.
Didn’t most Tory MPs back Remain?
Max is confusing rebels with Remainers. Plenty of the latter have never and never will rebel. Which is of course not to say that they are not biding their time for events.
I'm not confusing anything, there are Tory MPs who have voted for Brexit and Tory MPs who have voted against. Last time there were 12 of your lot. Not exactly the earth shattering figure that is being presented.
As I say, you are confused.
There is a smallish union set of remainers and rebels. You said "eventually the last EUphiles will be removed from the party". There are dozens at least more likely hundreds of EUPhile MPs in the Conservative Party. They ain't going anywhere for the foreseeable future.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
I’ve paid the Zakāt ever year since I was 22.
My mother insists on it.
Diacritics over words transliterated into English, a language with no diacritics.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
I’ve paid the Zakāt ever year since I was 22.
My mother insists on it.
Who to?
To those less fortunate than us.
I think one year my Zakāt paid for someone’s wedding.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim"... Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
I’ve paid the Zakāt ever year since I was 22.
My mother insists on it.
Diacritics over words transliterated into English, a language with no diacritics.
The line of thought is simple enough, I grant you.
I saw a theory recently that some of the motivation for the Leave was a rejection of complexity.
Life was simpler when everybody you met spoke English (only)
Life was simpler when our passports were Blue.
It would be simpler to use the NHS if the waiting rooms were empty.
A Free trade deal with the EU will be the simplest in history. We can get it done in an afternoon.
If that is true, it begs the question what happens when Brexit increases the complexity of life in almost every area.
The Leavers will blame everyone else for not doing Brexit the correct way. Presumably the deportations will start soon after...
Don’t worry, David Davis and Liam Fox will be in charge of the deportations.
Those two cock juggling thunder twats are so incompetent they’ll end up deporting Leavers and importing loads of EU citizens.
Joking aside I wasn’t shocked last year when a Leaver talked about repatriation of Indians.
An inevitable consequence of things like the Breaking Point posters.
I am quite convinced that there is a lot of closet racism and xenophobia on the Leave side. None of their arguments about "taking back control" or "better trade agreements" or (god forbid) "the importance of blue passports" make any sense when closely examined.
If they think that, post Brexit, we are going to be living in a biscuit-tin copy of a Cotswold village then they are all off their trolleys.
They can do what the hell they like. I no longer care. If an opportunity arises to stop Brexit I will give it my backing as is my democratic right in a free society, but however Brexit turns out, the responsibility for it is with "Leave". This is project, their vision and their dream. If it goes belly-up then it is their fault too.
Which brexiteers were advocating creating a new customs union as part of their dream?
You only get to shift all blame onto brexiteers if you let them call the shots.
It's interesting how many people have suddenly started saying they're bored/exhausted/fed up with Brexit. A definite change in mood in the last few days.
Boredom is necessary. We won't put an end to Brexit until people get so fed up with it that they will sign up to any union, single market or vassal state that it is going, just to make it go away. The end point we are aiming for is, much the same as before but sufficiently inferior to it that the EU can make its point about the value of membership and thereby discourage anyone else from being quite as stupid as we were.
There is a live test of more or less this scenario going on in New Zealand right now. I think Labour would head into a definite poll lead here if it happened, at the expense of Lib Dem and (In Scotland) SNP share.
The line of thought is simple enough, I grant you.
I saw a theory recently that some of the motivation for the Leave was a rejection of complexity.
Life was simpler when everybody you met spoke English (only)
Life was simpler when our passports were Blue.
It would be simpler to use the NHS if the waiting rooms were empty.
A Free trade deal with the EU will be the simplest in history. We can get it done in an afternoon.
If that is true, it begs the question what happens when Brexit increases the complexity of life in almost every area.
The Leavers will blame everyone else for not doing Brexit the correct way. Presumably the deportations will start soon after...
Don’t worry, David Davis and Liam Fox will be in charge of the deportations.
Those two cock juggling thunder twats are so incompetent they’ll end up deporting Leavers and importing loads of EU citizens.
Joking aside I wasn’t shocked last year when a Leaver talked about repatriation of Indians.
An inevitable consequence of things like the Breaking Point posters.
I am quite convinced that there is a lot of closet racism and xenophobia on the Leave side. None of their arguments about "taking back control" or "better trade agreements" or (god forbid) "the importance of blue passports" make any sense when closely examined.
If they think that, post Brexit, we are going to be living in a biscuit-tin copy of a Cotswold village then they are all off their trolleys.
They can do what the hell they like. I no longer care. If an opportunity arises to stop Brexit I will give it my backing as is my democratic right in a free society, but however Brexit turns out, the responsibility for it is with "Leave". This is project, their vision and their dream. If it goes belly-up then it is their fault too.
Which brexiteers were advocating creating a new customs union as part of their dream?
You only get to shift all blame onto brexiteers if you let them call the shots.
They are calling the shots. We do not have a "Remain" govt.
The line of thought is simple enough, I grant you.
I saw a theory recently that some of the motivation for the Leave was a rejection of complexity.
Life was simpler when everybody you met spoke English (only)
Life was simpler when our passports were Blue.
It would be simpler to use the NHS if the waiting rooms were empty.
A Free trade deal with the EU will be the simplest in history. We can get it done in an afternoon.
If that is true, it begs the question what happens when Brexit increases the complexity of life in almost every area.
The Leavers will blame everyone else for not doing Brexit the correct way. Presumably the deportations will start soon after...
Don’t worry, David Davis and Liam Fox will be in charge of the deportations.
Those two cock juggling thunder twats are so incompetent they’ll end up deporting Leavers and importing loads of EU citizens.
Joking aside I wasn’t shocked last year when a Leaver talked about repatriation of Indians.
An inevitable consequence of things like the Breaking Point posters.
I am quite convinced that there is a lot of closet racism and xenophobia on the Leave side. None of their arguments about "taking back control" or "better trade agreements" or (god forbid) "the importance of blue passports" make any sense when closely examined.
If they think that, post Brexit, we are going to be living in a biscuit-tin copy of a Cotswold village then they are all off their trolleys.
They can do what the hell they like. I no longer care. If an opportunity arises to stop Brexit I will give it my backing as is my democratic right in a free society, but however Brexit turns out, the responsibility for it is with "Leave". This is project, their vision and their dream. If it goes belly-up then it is their fault too.
Which brexiteers were advocating creating a new customs union as part of their dream?
You only get to shift all blame onto brexiteers if you let them call the shots.
They are calling the shots. We do not have a "Remain" govt.
The pure wine of Brexit has been diluted by all these motions and sundry other compromises with political reality. All the ills of Brexit are due to parliamentarians straying from the True Path.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim"... Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
I’ve paid the Zakāt ever year since I was 22.
My mother insists on it.
Diacritics over words transliterated into English, a language with no diacritics.
It's interesting how many people have suddenly started saying they're bored/exhausted/fed up with Brexit. A definite change in mood in the last few days.
Boredom is necessary. We won't put an end to Brexit until people get so fed up with it that they will sign up to any union, single market or vassal state that it is going, just to make it go away. The end point we are aiming for is, much the same as before but sufficiently inferior to it that the EU can make its point about the value of membership and thereby discourage anyone else from being quite as stupid as we were.
It seems to be turning out as I expected.
I should also say prevarication is necessary. Theresa May doesn't get much respect but she is doing* what she needs to do. Rees Mogg could muck everything up, however, by bringing down May. That would put Britain into a real crisis. There's an argument for him to do so. Time is against those that want a meaningful Brexit.
* Edit. More accurately, not doing what she needs not to do,
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
I’ve paid the Zakāt ever year since I was 22.
My mother insists on it.
Who to?
To those less fortunate than us.
I think one year my Zakāt paid for someone’s wedding.
This year it can go behind the bar at the next PB drinks do? Is another one planned anytime soon?
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
I’ve paid the Zakāt ever year since I was 22.
My mother insists on it.
Who to?
To those less fortunate than us.
I think one year my Zakāt paid for someone’s wedding.
This year it can go behind the bar at the next PB drinks do? Is another one planned anytime soon?
If I win my bet with HYUFD half the £500 is going behind the bar.
If this is correct, it doesn't much matter what our parliament votes for, we'll be told what we're having:
Frustrated by what they view as unclear UK positions, EU leaders plan to make a no-frills offer based loosely on an existing free trade deal with Canada.
“That will happen no matter whether more or less detail will come from London by that time,” said one senior EU official close to the talks. “We are where we are, and time is ticking.”
The EU’s paper will reflect “what we know about the UK’s red lines”, the official said.
It's fair enough, actually. In the absence of agreement in the UK, and with the government too weak to impose agreement, the EU has little choice but to impose a solution. Obviously it won't be optimal from our point of view, and obviously it won't be as good as we could have got if Theresa May had been given the negotiating mandate she asked from from voters, but as the Eurocrat says, we are where we are. It won't be as disastrous as crashing out with no agreement at all, or as ending up under WTO rules
The pure wine of Brexit has been diluted by all these motions and sundry other compromises with political reality. All the ills of Brexit are due to parliamentarians straying from the True Path.
There is a live test of more or less this scenario going on in New Zealand right now. I think Labour would head into a definite poll lead here if it happened, at the expense of Lib Dem and (In Scotland) SNP share.
BJGPS. Being Junior Governing Party Sucks. Iron rule of politics.
There is almost no chance that the Lib Dems would enter a coalition after the next election, whether Labour- or Conservative-led. (I say "almost" because PR without a referendum would probably swing it.)
Confidence & supply is the best that Labour could hope for, and I can't see the Lib Dems even affording that to a Conservative government led by anyone further right than Anna Soubry.
(C&S could actually be a real winner for the Lib Dems - it would mean they'd rarely be out of the headlines, and the party traditionally does better when people are reminded it exists.)
The line of thought is simple enough, I grant you.
I saw a theory recently that some of the motivation for the Leave was a rejection of complexity.
Life was simpler when everybody you met spoke English (only)
Life was simpler when our passports were Blue.
It would be simpler to use the NHS if the waiting rooms were empty.
A Free trade deal with the EU will be the simplest in history. We can get it done in an afternoon.
If that is true, it begs the question what happens when Brexit increases the complexity of life in almost every area.
The Leavers will blame everyone else for not doing Brexit the correct way. Presumably the deportations will start soon after...
Don’t worry, David Davis and Liam Fox will be in charge of the deportations.
Those two cock juggling thunder twats are so incompetent they’ll end up deporting Leavers and importing loads of EU citizens.
Joking aside I wasn’t shocked last year when a Leaver talked about repatriation of Indians.
An inevitable consequence of things like the Breaking Point posters.
I am quite convinced that there is a lot of closet racism and xenophobia on the Leave side. None of their arguments about "taking back control" or "better trade agreements" or (god forbid) "the importance of blue passports" make any sense when closely examined.
If they think that, post Brexit, we are going to be living in a biscuit-tin copy of a Cotswold village then they are all off their trolleys.
They can do what the hell they like. I no longer care. If an opportunity arises to stop Brexit I will give it my backing as is my democratic right in a free society, but however Brexit turns out, the responsibility for it is with "Leave". This is project, their vision and their dream. If it goes belly-up then it is their fault too.
Which brexiteers were advocating creating a new customs union as part of their dream?
You only get to shift all blame onto brexiteers if you let them call the shots.
They are calling the shots. We do not have a "Remain" govt.
We don't have a leave government either and as the thread header makes clear the government doesn't have an unassailable majority.
The big problem we face currently is the lack of strong government. Yes, someone would end up unhappy, but at least we would have leadership. Instead we are headed for expensive time consuming fudge that will make absolutely no one happy.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
I’ve paid the Zakāt ever year since I was 22.
My mother insists on it.
Who to?
To those less fortunate than us.
I think one year my Zakāt paid for someone’s wedding.
This year it can go behind the bar at the next PB drinks do? Is another one planned anytime soon?
If I win my bet with HYUFD half the £500 is going behind the bar.
The line of thought is simple enough, I grant you.
I saw a theory recently that some of the motivation for the Leave was a rejection of complexity.
Life was simpler when everybody you met spoke English (only)
Life was simpler when our passports were Blue.
It would be simpler to use the NHS if the waiting rooms were empty.
A Free trade deal with the EU will be the simplest in history. We can get it done in an afternoon.
If that is true, it begs the question what happens when Brexit increases the complexity of life in almost every area.
Don't bother. It's a wanky theory.
It was a rejection of the EU. That is what you can boil the Leave vote down to.
A club with a 98 per cent white European population that puts barriers up to the rest of the world - mostly at the expense of people who wish to trade in poorer developing nations and provides preferential immigration treatment in terms of said citizens over and above more highly qualified people from said poorer nations.
Yes - the EU is very progressive.
I expect people in the UK just wanted to leave so we could decide our own approach and our own immigration policy. So Indian doctors or Brazilian engineers would actually be treated more favourably in terms of access to live and work here than car washers from Eastern Europe.
If this is correct, it doesn't much matter what our parliament votes for, we'll be told what we're having:
Frustrated by what they view as unclear UK positions, EU leaders plan to make a no-frills offer based loosely on an existing free trade deal with Canada.
“That will happen no matter whether more or less detail will come from London by that time,” said one senior EU official close to the talks. “We are where we are, and time is ticking.”
The EU’s paper will reflect “what we know about the UK’s red lines”, the official said.
It's fair enough, actually. In the absence of agreement in the UK, and with the government too weak to impose agreement, the EU has little choice but to impose a solution. Obviously it won't be optimal from our point of view, and obviously it won't be as good as we could have got if Theresa May had been given the negotiating mandate she asked from from voters, but as the Eurocrat says, we are where we are. It won't be as disastrous as crashing out with no agreement at all, or as ending up under WTO rules
There's no one at the wheel on the EU side either. With Germany otherwise preoccupied, the Eurocrats have more influence over Britain than they ever have had before.
If this is correct, it doesn't much matter what our parliament votes for, we'll be told what we're having:
Frustrated by what they view as unclear UK positions, EU leaders plan to make a no-frills offer based loosely on an existing free trade deal with Canada.
“That will happen no matter whether more or less detail will come from London by that time,” said one senior EU official close to the talks. “We are where we are, and time is ticking.”
The EU’s paper will reflect “what we know about the UK’s red lines”, the official said.
It's fair enough, actually. In the absence of agreement in the UK, and with the government too weak to impose agreement, the EU has little choice but to impose a solution. Obviously it won't be optimal from our point of view, and obviously it won't be as good as we could have got if Theresa May had been given the negotiating mandate she asked from from voters, but as the Eurocrat says, we are where we are. It won't be as disastrous as crashing out with no agreement at all, or as ending up under WTO rules
There's no one at the wheel on the EU side either. With Germany otherwise preoccupied, the Eurocrats have more influence over Britain than they ever have had before.
Yes, and that points towards a fairly uncontroversial deal (in EU27 terms), which is not a very ambitious one from our point of view.
Edit: Having said that, I think we still are fairly likely to get some accommodation on financial services, because the EU does seem to understand that access to the City is important to them.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
I’ve paid the Zakāt ever year since I was 22.
My mother insists on it.
Who to?
To those less fortunate than us.
I think one year my Zakāt paid for someone’s wedding.
This year it can go behind the bar at the next PB drinks do? Is another one planned anytime soon?
If I win my bet with HYUFD half the £500 is going behind the bar.
The line of thought is simple enough, I grant you.
I saw a theory recently that some of the motivation for the Leave was a rejection of complexity.
Life was simpler when everybody you met spoke English (only)
Life was simpler when our passports were Blue.
It would be simpler to use the NHS if the waiting rooms were empty.
A Free trade deal with the EU will be the simplest in history. We can get it done in an afternoon.
If that is true, it begs the question what happens when Brexit increases the complexity of life in almost every area.
Don't bother. It's a wanky theory.
It was a rejection of the EU. That is what you can boil the Leave vote down to.
A club with a 98 per cent white European population that puts barriers up to the rest of the world - mostly at the expense of people who wish to trade in poorer developing nations and provides preferential immigration treatment in terms of said citizens over and above more highly qualified people from said poorer nations.
Yes - the EU is very progressive.
I expect people in the UK just wanted to leave so we could decide our own approach and our own immigration policy. So Indian doctors or Brazilian engineers would actually be treated more favourably in terms of access to live and work here than car washers from Eastern Europe.
I do try to be fair. The EU has reasonably long standing EBA (Everything But Arms) agreements with 49 poor countries. They're tariff and quota free. The criticism is that the RoOs make it hard for those poor countries to climb the value chain, so they tend to be confined to resources, agriculture and simple manufactured goods.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
I’ve paid the Zakāt ever year since I was 22.
My mother insists on it.
Who to?
To those less fortunate than us.
I think one year my Zakāt paid for someone’s wedding.
This year it can go behind the bar at the next PB drinks do? Is another one planned anytime soon?
If I win my bet with HYUFD half the £500 is going behind the bar.
I’ll ask Mike to arrange a new meet up.
What was the bet?
Jeremy Hunt beats either JRM or Boris in the final two.
A mixed bag of results in last night's by-elections.
Conservative six (3 gains, 2 losses) Lib Dems three (two gains, two losses) Labour One (no change) Independent One (one gain, two losses). A lot of very tight contests. It could easily have been four net Con gains, or two net Lib Dem gains.
SO how is the IOC policy of letting the russians who are definitely clean athletes compete...
A second Russian athlete competing at the Winter Olympics has tested positive for a banned substance.
Whoops. So even with a lucky second chance they still get caught cheating. They’ve probably ruined the chances of any Russians getting near the Olympics for some time. Watch for the genuinely clean ones moving to another country.
Jeremy Hunt beats either JRM or Boris in the final two.
HYUFD offered me 50/1.
You might want to cover your downside with a bit of Penny Mordaunt..... Especially if Lady Nugee looks like being the Annointed Successor to the Jezziah.
SO how is the IOC policy of letting the russians who are definitely clean athletes compete...
A second Russian athlete competing at the Winter Olympics has tested positive for a banned substance.
Whoops. So even with a lucky second chance they still get caught cheating. They’ve probably ruined the chances of any Russians getting near the Olympics for some time. Watch for the genuinely clean ones moving to another country.
If the whistleblowers are to be believed there aren’t any genuinely clean ones because you don’t get selected / stay on the programmes required to become elite unless you do what you are told.
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim". I grew up in the Muslim community. While most Muslims are decent, kind-hearted people, there is an Islam nationalistic subset that regards non-Muslim girls as "kuffar scum". They do not dress modestly, showing their arms, legs, hair etc so deserve what they get. Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
I’ve paid the Zakāt ever year since I was 22.
My mother insists on it.
Who to?
To those less fortunate than us.
I think one year my Zakāt paid for someone’s wedding.
This year it can go behind the bar at the next PB drinks do? Is another one planned anytime soon?
If I win my bet with HYUFD half the £500 is going behind the bar.
I’ll ask Mike to arrange a new meet up.
What was the bet?
Jeremy Hunt beats either JRM or Boris in the final two.
HYUFD offered me 50/1.
That’s a great bet, if the contest is to be PM rather than LotO.
With the landmark case earlier this week that the Police are liable for failing to investigate Worboys properly after the first allegations, it would be interesting to see victims launch a suit against the Police here too.
SO how is the IOC policy of letting the russians who are definitely clean athletes compete...
A second Russian athlete competing at the Winter Olympics has tested positive for a banned substance.
Whoops. So even with a lucky second chance they still get caught cheating. They’ve probably ruined the chances of any Russians getting near the Olympics for some time. Watch for the genuinely clean ones moving to another country.
Should we be making doping an Olympic sport to accommodate the Ruskies?
Jeremy Hunt beats either JRM or Boris in the final two.
HYUFD offered me 50/1.
You might want to cover your downside with a bit of Penny Mordaunt..... Especially if Lady Nugee looks like being the Annointed Successor to the Jezziah.
Might the EU27 starting to fret about the UK's missing billions start to play with markets and thinking? The meejah starting to draw blood asking donors whether they'd like to pay more and recipients whether they'd like to get less; a definite shift of emphasis I thought.
Coburn once said that "the ordinary man on the street does not want to get involved in some outrageous experiment that could end in financial catastrophe".
With the landmark case earlier this week that the Police are liable for failing to investigate Worboys properly after the first allegations, it would be interesting to see victims launch a suit against the Police here too.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim"... Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
I’ve paid the Zakāt ever year since I was 22.
My mother insists on it.
Diacritics over words transliterated into English, a language with no diacritics.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim"... Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
I’ve paid the Zakāt ever year since I was 22.
My mother insists on it.
Diacritics over words transliterated into English, a language with no diacritics.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim"... Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
I’ve paid the Zakāt ever year since I was 22.
My mother insists on it.
Diacritics over words transliterated into English, a language with no diacritics.
... Think tank the Quillam Foundation, which focuses on counter-extremism, said 84% of the 264 offenders convicted of grooming between 2005 and 2017 were of south Asian heritage.
Mr Spicer said the perpetrator he spoke to "displayed no regret" and "spoke in a derogatory manner about a lack of morals in British girls".
Odd that they have no problem with their own morals - being molesters, rapists, abusers, etc.
Other peoples's morals are obviously more important ...
What they mean by "lack of morals" is "not Muslim"... Often they will justify it by referring to how non-Muslim women were treated as sex slaves under the Rashidun Caliphs.
I had never heard of the Rashidun Caliphs so I googled it. 632 - 611 AD????
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
The taxation policy of the Rashidun Caliphs sounds very similar to John McDonnell's:
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc ... Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land. ... Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
I’ve paid the Zakāt ever year since I was 22.
My mother insists on it.
Diacritics over words transliterated into English, a language with no diacritics.
Comments
With 533 more votes in the right place, May would have a majority. With ~2,000 extra votes judiciously applied, we'd have PM Corbyn (and presumably many here would be in the Gulag).
The politics are exquisite.
An inevitable consequence of things like the Breaking Point posters.
That is their model of behaviour in the modern world? They need to wise up.
Having said, some christian sects and group could do with modernising too..
Zakāt (زكاة) is the Islamic concept of luxury tax. It was taken from the Muslims in the amount of 2.5% of their dormant wealth (over a certain amount unused for a year) to give to the poor. Only persons whose annual wealth exceeded a minimum level (nisab) were collected from. The nisab does not include primary residence, primary transportation, moderate amount of woven jewelry, etc
...
Kharaj was a tax on agricultural land.
...
Ushr was a reciprocal 10% levy on agricultural land as well as merchandise imported from states that taxed the Muslims on their products.
First Hadith - Stop killing people you twats.
Second Hadith - You do realise the 72 virgins are all male.
If they think that, post Brexit, we are going to be living in a biscuit-tin copy of a Cotswold village then they are all off their trolleys.
They can do what the hell they like. I no longer care. If an opportunity arises to stop Brexit I will give it my backing as is my democratic right in a free society, but however Brexit turns out, the responsibility for it is with "Leave". This is project, their vision and their dream. If it goes belly-up then it is their fault too.
My mother insists on it.
Explains the joint problem with antisemitism, I suppose.
The Internet: Where the men are men, the women are men and children are FBI agents.
She didn't cut it as a minister - more trouble than she's worth.
There is a smallish union set of remainers and rebels. You said "eventually the last EUphiles will be removed from the party". There are dozens at least more likely hundreds of EUPhile MPs in the Conservative Party. They ain't going anywhere for the foreseeable future.
When did this become OK? It makes no sense to me.
... were the only voters for the LibDems.
I think one year my Zakāt paid for someone’s wedding.
https://twitter.com/LibyaLiberty/status/966724266401116161
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motörhead
You only get to shift all blame onto brexiteers if you let them call the shots.
It seems to be turning out as I expected.
https://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/
Latest averages:
CDU/CSU 32.9%
SPD 17.1%
AfD 14.0%
Greens 12.3%
Left 10.1%
FDP 9.1%
Others 4.5%
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/23/2018-election-analysis-politics-217073
* Edit. More accurately, not doing what she needs not to do,
Is another one planned anytime soon?
I’ll ask Mike to arrange a new meet up.
Frustrated by what they view as unclear UK positions, EU leaders plan to make a no-frills offer based loosely on an existing free trade deal with Canada.
“That will happen no matter whether more or less detail will come from London by that time,” said one senior EU official close to the talks. “We are where we are, and time is ticking.”
The EU’s paper will reflect “what we know about the UK’s red lines”, the official said.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/eu-officials-attack-theresa-mays-brexit-blueprint-hours-after-chequers-summit-a3774081.html
It's fair enough, actually. In the absence of agreement in the UK, and with the government too weak to impose agreement, the EU has little choice but to impose a solution. Obviously it won't be optimal from our point of view, and obviously it won't be as good as we could have got if Theresa May had been given the negotiating mandate she asked from from voters, but as the Eurocrat says, we are where we are. It won't be as disastrous as crashing out with no agreement at all, or as ending up under WTO rules
https://twitter.com/laura_k_hughes/status/966323383427391490
Confidence & supply is the best that Labour could hope for, and I can't see the Lib Dems even affording that to a Conservative government led by anyone further right than Anna Soubry.
(C&S could actually be a real winner for the Lib Dems - it would mean they'd rarely be out of the headlines, and the party traditionally does better when people are reminded it exists.)
The big problem we face currently is the lack of strong government. Yes, someone would end up unhappy, but at least we would have leadership. Instead we are headed for expensive time consuming fudge that will make absolutely no one happy.
It was a rejection of the EU. That is what you can boil the Leave vote down to.
You should be aiming to set up a harem.
Yes - the EU is very progressive.
I expect people in the UK just wanted to leave so we could decide our own approach and our own immigration policy. So Indian doctors or Brazilian engineers would actually be treated more favourably in terms of access to live and work here than car washers from Eastern Europe.
Edit: Having said that, I think we still are fairly likely to get some accommodation on financial services, because the EU does seem to understand that access to the City is important to them.
https://twitter.com/___m______1___/status/967010890234114048
A second Russian athlete competing at the Winter Olympics has tested positive for a banned substance.
HYUFD offered me 50/1.
A mixed bag of results in last night's by-elections.
Conservative six (3 gains, 2 losses) Lib Dems three (two gains, two losses) Labour One (no change) Independent One (one gain, two losses). A lot of very tight contests. It could easily have been four net Con gains, or two net Lib Dem gains.
Sadly for the drinks fund!
It’ll be my biggest ever winner.
Astonishing to think he was 100/1 and 66/1 only a few months ago.
Police appeared to punish victims of Newcastle grooming gangs, review finds
Report into work of Operation Sanctuary finds 700 girls and women were victims of gangs
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/feb/23/northumbria-police-operation-sanctuary-newcastle-grooming-gangs-case-review
https://casumptious.wordpress.com/2018/02/22/the-final-curtain/
But they get 4% with YG - where that goes or stays home may decide the election.
Will put me back in the +ve column after Donald Trump betting debacle of 2016.
Mr. Eagles, those would be very nice odds.
We see support for independence go up and down with no correspondening shift in support for the SNP.
https://twitter.com/CPAC/status/966729074168049665