What is the Finchley Road conspiracy? Anyone able to give me a 100-word summary?
Oh no, please, not again....Mr Meeks call the Leave campaign Xenophobic or something again, anything, not this.
This is truly bizarre!
I, like Cookie, have absolutely no idea what the 'Finchley Road conspiracy' is. Nor do I understand Nunghman's references to Christopher Wood and RT. Now maybe I am just being dense as usual... but will somebody please explain, just a little?
Google is your friend: search "Finchley Road conspiracy" and you will be right in the thick of it.
Yeah I did try that - nothing obvious jumped out from a quick look. On closer inspection am I supposed to be looking at the "Dear Taxpayer, I want to tell you about the Prime Minister's Boiler Room in Finchley Road" site? If so, it looks to be way over on the 'aliens ate my brain' scale of conspiracy theories, and frankly total bollocks (from a quick scan).
That's exactly what someone whose brain has been eaten by an alien would say.
It may be that I am confusing my conspiracty theories, and that another conspiracyv theory has co-opted the Finchley Road conspiracy into a rather grander conspiracy - but it appears that everything that has happened in the last 40 years or will happen in the next 80 is the result of a carefully thought out plan by a selection of people including Jan-Peter Balkenende and Ed Balls. I only got down to point 18 in the list, but presumably the plan includes Ed Balls losing Morley and Outwood in 2015 in order to make time to learn the piano, the disappointingly mediocre academic record of my local primary school, and Jamie Carragher getting sacked from Sky Sports for spitting in a girl's face.
I'll take your word for it - human nature and bureaucratic incompetence of large organisations would seem to me to rule out any all-controlling type conspiracies as opposed to 'yes, sometimes governments have done shady stuff' style ones, so if I am living in such a world where such all powerful conspiracies exist, I'm content to let it slide - they must work very hard to maintain it.
What is the Finchley Road conspiracy? Anyone able to give me a 100-word summary?
Oh no, please, not again....Mr Meeks call the Leave campaign Xenophobic or something again, anything, not this.
This is truly bizarre!
I, like Cookie, have absolutely no idea what the 'Finchley Road conspiracy' is. Nor do I understand Nunghman's references to Christopher Wood and RT. Now maybe I am just being dense as usual... but will somebody please explain, just a little?
I genuinely can't help. I have been on this site for a decade or more now and have never understood what Hunchman is getting at about this even though I find him a very nice chap to take to and agree on a lot of other stuff with.
I have tended just to skim over it all as it eventually dies down after a day or so.
While we are on this kind of stuff...just to clarify I have never bought a property to rent. I have lived in Italy and rented out my own house...I have bought lots of properties, renovated them and sold them on...but sometimes I have held onto properties longer than a year or so to minimise capital gains, and rather than leaving them empty have rented them out. I have a flat that was difficult to sell about 12 years ago, and have left a tenant alone because she is nice without rising her rent in this period.
I have no malice against people who buy to rent...but I do not buy to rent. I buy to sell, but when you play the property game you sometimes end ups with a few properties.
I don't have to justify my actions to the likes of Seant and Casino.. BUT.there are other people who read this site who might the wrong impression based on poisonous, and misleading posting about me.
FWIW..I don't really care how people make their money. As long as its legal and they pay tax, good luck to them...so people who buy to rent, well done.
Are any of your portfolio of properties on Finchley Road Tyson? We're through the looking glass here...
On topic, we don't really have a lot of plausible options to hurt Russia, do we? I doubt we're going to get any support from Trump (nor, therefore, from NATO). The EU is unlikely to help, since most of the big players are more interested in building bridges with Russia.
So I expect a token response, a bigger retaliation from Russia, then an uneasy stand-off while the government hopes the dust settles and we all forget... until the next time.
If we don't actually have any options other than nuclear war (and nuclear retaliation) maybe this endorses Corbyn's view of the problem?
There may be little we can do but words, but words still need to be said, as it is with many tragedies.
What is the Finchley Road conspiracy? Anyone able to give me a 100-word summary?
Oh no, please, not again....Mr Meeks call the Leave campaign Xenophobic or something again, anything, not this.
This is truly bizarre!
I, like Cookie, have absolutely no idea what the 'Finchley Road conspiracy' is. Nor do I understand Nunghman's references to Christopher Wood and RT. Now maybe I am just being dense as usual... but will somebody please explain, just a little?
Google is your friend: search "Finchley Road conspiracy" and you will be right in the thick of it.
Yeah I did try that - nothing obvious jumped out from a quick look. On closer inspection am I supposed to be looking at the "Dear Taxpayer, I want to tell you about the Prime Minister's Boiler Room in Finchley Road" site? If so, it looks to be way over on the 'aliens ate my brain' scale of conspiracy theories, and frankly total bollocks (from a quick scan).
That's exactly what someone whose brain has been eaten by an alien would say.
You've got me there! Still, at least I didn't let slip that my alien shot JFK, eh?
Well of course not, that was mi....wait a minute. Nice try.
What is the Finchley Road conspiracy? Anyone able to give me a 100-word summary?
Oh no, please, not again....Mr Meeks call the Leave campaign Xenophobic or something again, anything, not this.
This is truly bizarre!
I, like Cookie, have absolutely no idea what the 'Finchley Road conspiracy' is. Nor do I understand Nunghman's references to Christopher Wood and RT. Now maybe I am just being dense as usual... but will somebody please explain, just a little?
I genuinely can't help. I have been on this site for a decade or more now and have never understood what Hunchman is getting at about this even though I find him a very nice chap to take to and agree on a lot of other stuff with.
I have tended just to skim over it all as it eventually dies down after a day or so.
While we are on this kind of stuff...just to clarify I have never bought a property to rent. I have lived in Italy and rented out my own house...I have bought lots of properties, renovated them and sold them on...but sometimes I have held onto properties longer than a year or so to minimise capital gains, and rather than leaving them empty have rented them out. I have a flat that was difficult to sell about 12 years ago, and have left a tenant alone because she is nice without rising her rent in this period.
I have no malice against people who buy to rent...but I do not buy to rent. I buy to sell, but when you play the property game you sometimes end ups with a few properties.
I don't have to justify my actions to the likes of Seant and Casino.. BUT.there are other people who read this site who might the wrong impression based on poisonous, and misleading posting about me.
FWIW..I don't really care how people make their money. As long as its legal and they pay tax, good luck to them...so people who buy to rent, well done.
Are any of your portfolio of properties on Finchley Road Tyson? We're through the looking glass here...
Tyson talks about "as long as people pay their taxes" and talks of "minimising capital gains" in same post
On topic, we don't really have a lot of plausible options to hurt Russia, do we? I doubt we're going to get any support from Trump (nor, therefore, from NATO). The EU is unlikely to help, since most of the big players are more interested in building bridges with Russia.
So I expect a token response, a bigger retaliation from Russia, then an uneasy stand-off while the government hopes the dust settles and we all forget... until the next time.
I suspect that if we really put our minds to it we could cause them a considerable amount of grief when it comes to transactions through the City and investments in the UK. I am not sure we have the political will to do so though.
In another era we would have gone to war over the use of chemical weapons against UK citizens. I am not saying we should nor that I am sorry we can't. Just that the world has moved on. We need to find other ways to hurt them. Economically/financially seems a good second choice
It's not just the UK. I bet the Russians have considerable money funnelled through the Caymans, Bermuda, Gibraltar and the like. A combination of freezing assets and targeted release of information documenting Putin's embezzlement of the Russian people's money would be smart.
As for the EU, Merkel and Macron need to decide if they are serious about wanting a security relationship with the UK post-Brexit or not.
That is precisely the aim of these Russian attacks though - to break up the alliance between the western powers.
Jezza has a knack of picking his side well. He opposed PFI, Blair, and Blair's wars. His note of caution may yet prove to be a popular one.
He failed to condemn Russia - you ok with that Foxy?
No.
But it needs a thoughtful approach rather than a bellicose one. Not least because the latter is what Putin wants.
Things seem to have been handled with thoughtfulness thus far. A certain level of bellicosity would seem appropriate if the suspicions the government have are reasonable, and a lack of bellicosity in that situation not a sign of thoughtfulness but of thoughtlessness.
Jezza has a knack of picking his side well. He opposed PFI, Blair, and Blair's wars. His note of caution may yet prove to be a popular one.
He did also support Venezuela, Iran, the IRA, Ken Livingstone, the GLC, Gordon Brown and Gorbachev.
His record is less than flawless.
You see support for Gorbachev as a flaw? One shared by Maggie.
Depends on what perspective you view him from. As an international statesman he was one of the true giants of twentieth century politics. As a domestic reformer his policies however well-intentioned caused untold misery and hardship and led to the collapse of his country and many of the problems that still bedevil Russia and the other post-Soviet states today.
Edit - remember this is a man who has a Nobel Peace Prize and in the only democratic election he fought (1996) got 0.5% of the vote.
Just out of interest, what was Corbyn's take on the Salisbury incident? I presume it was something along the lines of a 'full investigation needed', without accepting that Russia was behind it.
Jezza has a knack of picking his side well. He opposed PFI, Blair, and Blair's wars. His note of caution may yet prove to be a popular one.
Rose tinted spectacles
Haha, made me laugh Big_G. When it comes to TMay your specs are the rosiest of rose... and to be honest with you, I find that rather likeable.
Although we differ markedly in our political outlook, I find your loyalty to leader endearing. Keep it up!
Not so sure we are so far away on various subjects. However, TM has received support from across the HOC and the media generally - she stepped up to the plate today
What is the Finchley Road conspiracy? Anyone able to give me a 100-word summary?
Oh no, please, not again....Mr Meeks call the Leave campaign Xenophobic or something again, anything, not this.
This is truly bizarre!
I, like Cookie, have absolutely no idea what the 'Finchley Road conspiracy' is. Nor do I understand Nunghman's references to Christopher Wood and RT. Now maybe I am just being dense as usual... but will somebody please explain, just a little?
I genuinely can't help. I have been on this site for a decade or more now and have never understood what Hunchman is getting at about this even though I find him a very nice chap to take to and agree on a lot of other stuff with.
I have tended just to skim over it all as it eventually dies down after a day or so.
While we are on this kind of stuff...just to clarify I have never bought a property to rent. I have lived in Italy and rented out my own house...I have bought lots of properties, renovated them and sold them on...but sometimes I have held onto properties longer than a year or so to minimise capital gains, and rather than leaving them empty have rented them out. I have a flat that was difficult to sell about 12 years ago, and have left a tenant alone because she is nice without rising her rent in this period.
I have no malice against people who buy to rent...but I do not buy to rent. I buy to sell, but when you play the property game you sometimes end ups with a few properties.
I don't have to justify my actions to the likes of Seant and Casino.. BUT.there are other people who read this site who might the wrong impression based on poisonous, and misleading posting about me.
FWIW..I don't really care how people make their money. As long as its legal and they pay tax, good luck to them...so people who buy to rent, well done.
Are any of your portfolio of properties on Finchley Road Tyson? We're through the looking glass here...
No....property development is something that my wife enjoys...I really have very little interest in money...any extra cash we've had in the last twenty years or so, we've put into Peps and ISA's, and when I look at statements I just find it appalling that you can make so m much money by doing very, very little.
Jezza has a knack of picking his side well. He opposed PFI, Blair, and Blair's wars. His note of caution may yet prove to be a popular one.
Rose tinted spectacles
Haha, made me laugh Big_G. When it comes to TMay your specs are the rosiest of rose... and to be honest with you, I find that rather likeable.
Although we differ markedly in our political outlook, I find your loyalty to leader endearing. Keep it up!
Not so sure we are so far away on various subjects. However, TM has received support from across the HOC and the media generally - she stepped up to the plate today
Indeed. However, finding practical and effective actions which will satisfy and deter could prove more tricky than making a speech.
What is the Finchley Road conspiracy? Anyone able to give me a 100-word summary?
.
This is truly bizarre!
I, like Cookie, have absolutely no idea what the 'Finchley Road conspiracy' is. Nor do I understand Nunghman's references to Christopher Wood and RT. Now maybe I am just being dense as usual... but will somebody please explain, just a little?
Google is your friend: search "Finchley Road conspiracy" and you will be right in the thick of it.
Yeah I did try that - nothing obvious jumped out from a quick look. On closer inspection am I supposed to be looking at the "Dear Taxpayer, I want to tell you about the Prime Minister's Boiler Room in Finchley Road" site? If so, it looks to be way over on the 'aliens ate my brain' scale of conspiracy theories, and frankly total bollocks (from a quick scan).
That's exactly what someone whose brain has been eaten by an alien would say.
It may be that I am confusing my conspiracty theories, and that another conspiracyv theory has co-opted the Finchley Road conspiracy into a rather grander conspiracy - but it appears that everything that has happened in the last 40 years or will happen in the next 80 is the result of a carefully thought out plan by a selection of people including Jan-Peter Balkenende and Ed Balls. I only got down to point 18 in the list, but presumably the plan includes Ed Balls losing Morley and Outwood in 2015 in order to make time to learn the piano, the disappointingly mediocre academic record of my local primary school, and Jamie Carragher getting sacked from Sky Sports for spitting in a girl's face.
I'll take your word for it - human nature and bureaucratic incompetence of large organisations would seem to me to rule out any all-controlling type conspiracies as opposed to 'yes, sometimes governments have done shady stuff' style ones, so if I am living in such a world where such all powerful conspiracies exist, I'm content to let it slide - they must work very hard to maintain it.
Well said! Is there anybody who has worked for a large organisation who has not been struck by the sheer difficulty of getting even simple things done at times. Slick all-controlling conspiracies are great fun in fiction but in reality they just don't happen. (At least that's what I need you all to believe. )
Which makes me feel that the Skripal attack was a complete feck-up, either by rogue elements or planned as an undetectable hit by the FBS that went wrong.
(PS if anybody from the FBS is reading this, I'm really SeanT, ok.)
Jezza has a knack of picking his side well. He opposed PFI, Blair, and Blair's wars. His note of caution may yet prove to be a popular one.
Rose tinted spectacles
Haha, made me laugh Big_G. When it comes to TMay your specs are the rosiest of rose... and to be honest with you, I find that rather likeable.
Although we differ markedly in our political outlook, I find your loyalty to leader endearing. Keep it up!
Not so sure we are so far away on various subjects. However, TM has received support from across the HOC and the media generally - she stepped up to the plate today
Indeed. However, finding practical and effective actions which will satisfy and deter could prove more tricky than making a speech.
The remarkable thing today was the unity of the HOC behind TM and the onslaught on Corbyn by his own MPs on his response to her statement
Later this week will be interesting but tonight France has pledged support and no doubt other Countries and agencies will come out in support over the following days
What is the Finchley Road conspiracy? Anyone able to give me a 100-word summary?
Oh no, please, not again....Mr Meeks call the Leave campaign Xenophobic or something again, anything, not this.
This is truly bizarre!
I, like Cookie, have absolutely no idea what the 'Finchley Road conspiracy' is. Nor do I understand Nunghman's references to Christopher Wood and RT. Now maybe I am just being dense as usual... but will somebody please explain, just a little?
I genuinely can't help. I have been on this site for a decade or more now and have never understood what Hunchman is getting at about this even though I find him a very nice chap to take to and agree on a lot of other stuff with.
I have tended just to skim over it all as it eventually dies down after a day or so.
While we are on this kind of stuff...just to clarify I have never bought a property to rent. I have lived in Italy and rented out my own house...I have bought lots of properties, renovated them and sold them on...but sometimes I have held onto properties longer than a year or so to minimise capital gains, and rather than leaving them empty have rented them out. I have a flat that was difficult to sell about 12 years ago, and have left a tenant alone because she is nice without rising her rent in this period.
I have no malice against people who buy to rent...but I do not buy to rent. I buy to sell, but when you play the property game you sometimes end ups with a few properties.
I don't have to justify my actions to the likes of Seant and Casino.. BUT.there are other people who read this site who might the wrong impression based on poisonous, and misleading posting about me.
FWIW..I don't really care how people make their money. As long as its legal and they pay tax, good luck to them...so people who buy to rent, well done.
Are any of your portfolio of properties on Finchley Road Tyson? We're through the looking glass here...
Tyson talks about "as long as people pay their taxes" and talks of "minimising capital gains" in same post
Floater...I'm not stupid...I've built up my assets from nothing, literally nothing...but I really do not mind paying fair taxes...
It'll be interesting to see whether Vince Cable's speech has any noticeable effect on LD fortunes in the opinion polls.
In percentage terms it may well be considerable, negative or positive. I suspect had he announced he was relinquishing the leadership the effect would be better and larger.
Actual Russian disinfo live on Radio 4 right now. "50 year old Soviet poison." That is simply a lie. The programme was still going in the post Soviet era, that's when it first came to light when some Russian scientists revealed it, there's no evidence that the programme has ever ended.
I guess that will be part of the Russian explanation "oh it's some old stuff someone got their hands on".
@christopherhope: BREAKING Labour has just reissued Jeremy Corbyn's statement on the Salisbury poisoning, taking out the cheap political points he made in the Commons about the Tories taking donations from Russian businessmen
I think Corbyn has a point about those donations. Sergei Skripal wasn't the first or probably the second victim of Russian state hit squads on UK soil. Continuing to take large sums from oligarchs closely associated with that regime suggests a lack of concern about the activities of that regime.
We all know how the Russian authorities respond to accusations, true or not, but I do wonder how many of those making denials, or hearing the denials, believe it. Is it a case of 'my country, right or wrong' for many, or is it usually accepted?
Jezza has a knack of picking his side well. He opposed PFI, Blair, and Blair's wars. His note of caution may yet prove to be a popular one.
Rose tinted spectacles
Haha, made me laugh Big_G. When it comes to TMay your specs are the rosiest of rose... and to be honest with you, I find that rather likeable.
Although we differ markedly in our political outlook, I find your loyalty to leader endearing. Keep it up!
Not so sure we are so far away on various subjects. However, TM has received support from across the HOC and the media generally - she stepped up to the plate today
Indeed. However, finding practical and effective actions which will satisfy and deter could prove more tricky than making a speech.
The remarkable thing today was the unity of the HOC behind TM and the onslaught on Corbyn by his own MPs on his response to her statement
Later this week will be interesting but tonight France has pledged support and no doubt other Countries and agencies will come out in support over the following days
A crack regiment of tax inspectors supported closely by a squadron of forensic accountants needs unleashing imho. It is the only language they understand.
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Jezza has a knack of picking his side well. He opposed PFI, Blair, and Blair's wars. His note of caution may yet prove to be a popular one.
Rose tinted spectacles
Haha, made me laugh Big_G. When it comes to TMay your specs are the rosiest of rose... and to be honest with you, I find that rather likeable.
Although we differ markedly in our political outlook, I find your loyalty to leader endearing. Keep it up!
Not so sure we are so far away on various subjects. However, TM has received support from across the HOC and the media generally - she stepped up to the plate today
Indeed. However, finding practical and effective actions which will satisfy and deter could prove more tricky than making a speech.
The remarkable thing today was the unity of the HOC behind TM and the onslaught on Corbyn by his own MPs on his response to her statement
Later this week will be interesting but tonight France has pledged support and no doubt other Countries and agencies will come out in support over the following days
A crack regiment of tax inspectors supported closely by a squadron of forensic accountants needs unleashing imho. It is the only language they understand.
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Jezza has a knack of picking his side well. He opposed PFI, Blair, and Blair's wars. His note of caution may yet prove to be a popular one.
Rose tinted spectacles
Haha, made me laugh Big_G. When it comes to TMay your specs are the rosiest of rose... and to be honest with you, I find that rather likeable.
Although we differ markedly in our political outlook, I find your loyalty to leader endearing. Keep it up!
Not so sure we are so far away on various subjects. However, TM has received support from across the HOC and the media generally - she stepped up to the plate today
Indeed. However, finding practical and effective actions which will satisfy and deter could prove more tricky than making a speech.
The remarkable thing today was the unity of the HOC behind TM and the onslaught on Corbyn by his own MPs on his response to her statement
Later this week will be interesting but tonight France has pledged support and no doubt other Countries and agencies will come out in support over the following days
A crack regiment of tax inspectors supported closely by a squadron of forensic accountants needs unleashing imho. It is the only language they understand.
Interestingly Putin perceived the Panama Papers leak as a hostile act.
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
Indeed - as popular as Theresa May, given it is so close between the pair.
Jezza has a knack of picking his side well. He opposed PFI, Blair, and Blair's wars. His note of caution may yet prove to be a popular one.
Rose tinted spectacles
Haha, made me laugh Big_G. When it comes to TMay your specs are the rosiest of rose... and to be honest with you, I find that rather likeable.
Although we differ markedly in our political outlook, I find your loyalty to leader endearing. Keep it up!
Not so sure we are so far away on various subjects. However, TM has received support from across the HOC and the media generally - she stepped up to the plate today
Indeed. However, finding practical and effective actions which will satisfy and deter could prove more tricky than making a speech.
The remarkable thing today was the unity of the HOC behind TM and the onslaught on Corbyn by his own MPs on his response to her statement
Later this week will be interesting but tonight France has pledged support and no doubt other Countries and agencies will come out in support over the following days
A crack regiment of tax inspectors supported closely by a squadron of forensic accountants needs unleashing imho. It is the only language they understand.
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
He is less popular then Theresa May. She beats him every time in best PM polls.
Ed Miliband was further ahead in the polls in 2012 than Corbyn is.
I notice you cant answer my point that if Corbyn had been PM in the 1990s thousands of people would have been murdered in Kosovo. He opposed the war against Milosovich.
You are going to get a terrible shock on election night 2022.
Donations are a complete red herring in all this. There is no evidence that any of them broke the rules regarding such matters. No evidence that it has bought influence to make the UK more symosympath towards Russia. It is just a distraction from the real closeness. And that is the Corbynite closeness to many regimes. The money taken by Labour MPs from RT is far more tainted. The praise lauded on Venezuela and the utter lack.of outright condemnation of the political violence being perpetrated out there. The friendship with Hamas and Hezbollah. All of this and more is why many on the Left are bleating about legal.donations in attempt to divert attention from their close links to objectionable regimes round the globe.
Putin is a stain on the world community. And whilst there is little we can do to practically stop him, we need to take a lead against him. The World Cup should be boycotted. Russia should not be able to compete in any international event whether sporting or cultural. A stand has to be taken.
Jezza has a knack of picking his side well. He opposed PFI, Blair, and Blair's wars. His note of caution may yet prove to be a popular one.
Rose tinted spectacles
Haha, made me laugh Big_G. When it comes to TMay your specs are the rosiest of rose... and to be honest with you, I find that rather likeable.
Although we differ markedly in our political outlook, I find your loyalty to leader endearing. Keep it up!
Not so sure we are so far away on various subjects. However, TM has received support from across the HOC and the media generally - she stepped up to the plate today
Indeed. However, finding practical and effective actions which will satisfy and deter could prove more tricky than making a speech.
The remarkable thing today was the unity of the HOC behind TM and the onslaught on Corbyn by his own MPs on his response to her statement
Later this week will be interesting but tonight France has pledged support and no doubt other Countries and agencies will come out in support over the following days
A crack regiment of tax inspectors supported closely by a squadron of forensic accountants needs unleashing imho. It is the only language they understand.
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
He's pushing the bounds of hubris to discover just when that popularity breaks.
Jezza has a knack of picking his side well. He opposed PFI, Blair, and Blair's wars. His note of caution may yet prove to be a popular one.
Rose tinted spectacles
Haha, made me laugh Big_G. When it comes to TMay your specs are the rosiest of rose... and to be honest with you, I find that rather likeable.
Although we differ markedly in our political outlook, I find your loyalty to leader endearing. Keep it up!
Not so sure we are so far away on various subjects. However, TM has received support from across the HOC and the media generally - she stepped up to the plate today
Indeed. However, finding practical and effective actions which will satisfy and deter could prove more tricky than making a speech.
The remarkable thing today was the unity of the HOC behind TM and the onslaught on Corbyn by his own MPs on his response to her statement
Later this week will be interesting but tonight France has pledged support and no doubt other Countries and agencies will come out in support over the following days
Resounding equivocation from the White House, so far.
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
He's pushing the bounds of hubris to discover just when that popularity breaks.
The key is the money and its trail. That's got to be how May responds. Show Putin to be the corrupt arsehole that he really is and how much of Russia's wealth he and his cronies have stolen.
Jezza has a knack of picking his side well. He opposed PFI, Blair, and Blair's wars. His note of caution may yet prove to be a popular one.
Rose tinted spectacles
Haha, made me laugh Big_G. When it comes to TMay your specs are the rosiest of rose... and to be honest with you, I find that rather likeable.
Although we differ markedly in our political outlook, I find your loyalty to leader endearing. Keep it up!
Not so sure we are so far away on various subjects. However, TM has received support from across the HOC and the media generally - she stepped up to the plate today
Indeed. However, finding practical and effective actions which will satisfy and deter could prove more tricky than making a speech.
The remarkable thing today was the unity of the HOC behind TM and the onslaught on Corbyn by his own MPs on his response to her statement
Later this week will be interesting but tonight France has pledged support and no doubt other Countries and agencies will come out in support over the following days
A crack regiment of tax inspectors supported closely by a squadron of forensic accountants needs unleashing imho. It is the only language they understand.
Actually not entirely. It is becoming increasingly difficult to separate the Russian State from the kleptocratic elite. An investigation of their incomes and holdings and the threat to publish any results could be our most effective weapon. Make clear we are targetting only those close to the regime not the Russian people. "Visa problems" for elite private schools and Universities could also, unavoidably, occur
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
He's pushing the bounds of hubris to discover just when that popularity breaks.
I think that May has cornered the market on hubris, so lets see how it all looks in a few weeks.
For example, how will White Van Man feel about a World Cup Boycott?
Jezza has a knack of picking his side well. He opposed PFI, Blair, and Blair's wars. His note of caution may yet prove to be a popular one.
Rose tinted spectacles
Haha, made me laugh Big_G. When it comes to TMay your specs are the rosiest of rose... and to be honest with you, I find that rather likeable.
Although we differ markedly in our political outlook, I find your loyalty to leader endearing. Keep it up!
Not so sure we are so far away on various subjects. However, TM has received support from across the HOC and the media generally - she stepped up to the plate today
Indeed. However, finding practical and effective actions which will satisfy and deter could prove more tricky than making a speech.
The remarkable thing today was the unity of the HOC behind TM and the onslaught on Corbyn by his own MPs on his response to her statement
Later this week will be interesting but tonight France has pledged support and no doubt other Countries and agencies will come out in support over the following days
A crack regiment of tax inspectors supported closely by a squadron of forensic accountants needs unleashing imho. It is the only language they understand.
And whatever regiments of nerds GCHQ wants.
We should definitely be investing whatever resources and brains we can into cyber-defence. Much better use of defence £bns than aircraft carriers or Trident imo.
Donations are a complete red herring in all this. There is no evidence that any of them broke the rules regarding such matters. No evidence that it has bought influence to make the UK more symosympath towards Russia. It is just a distraction from the real closeness. And that is the Corbynite closeness to many regimes. The money taken by Labour MPs from RT is far more tainted. The praise lauded on Venezuela and the utter lack.of outright condemnation of the political violence being perpetrated out there. The friendship with Hamas and Hezbollah. All of this and more is why many on the Left are bleating about legal.donations in attempt to divert attention from their close links to objectionable regimes round the globe.
Can tell the extreme right wing nutcases on here are rattled today from all the spit-flecks.
All this extreme anti-russia hysteria the westminster bubble is enjoying getting lathered into is bizarre. And would be worrying if it weren't for the fact that the noise is inversely proportional to the ability to go to war, the otherwise usual response to smaller countries that happen to be inconvenient to our feral ruling class and their various lucrative overseas entanglements.
Jezza has a knack of picking his side well. He opposed PFI, Blair, and Blair's wars. His note of caution may yet prove to be a popular one.
Rose tinted spectacles
Haha, made me laugh Big_G. When it comes to TMay your specs are the rosiest of rose... and to be honest with you, I find that rather likeable.
Although we differ markedly in our political outlook, I find your loyalty to leader endearing. Keep it up!
Not so sure we are so far away on various subjects. However, TM has received support from across the HOC and the media generally - she stepped up to the plate today
Indeed. However, finding practical and effective actions which will satisfy and deter could prove more tricky than making a speech.
The remarkable thing today was the unity of the HOC behind TM and the onslaught on Corbyn by his own MPs on his response to her statement
Later this week will be interesting but tonight France has pledged support and no doubt other Countries and agencies will come out in support over the following days
A crack regiment of tax inspectors supported closely by a squadron of forensic accountants needs unleashing imho. It is the only language they understand.
Actually not entirely. It is becoming increasingly difficult to separate the Russian State from the kleptocratic elite. An investigation of their incomes and holdings and the threat to publish any results could be our most effective weapon. Make clear we are targetting only those close to the regime not the Russian people. "Visa problems" for elite private schools and Universities could also, unavoidably, occur
I wouldn't have a problem with that, though it is a fairly blunt weapon that may well hit Putin's main opponents too, as well as shady kleptocrats from across the rest of the world who find London an amenable place. Indeed, that may well suit Putin well.
But anyone remotely patriotic - whether remainer or leaver - should realise that Britain leaving the EU hands a huge victory to Putin's Russia, and weakens our security. That's not theoretical: ppl right now in Salisbury are having to deal with what it means. 5/5
Given we haven't left yet, I am curious how it is not theoretical that what happened in Salisbury is because of our security being weakened because of Brexit/
What is the Finchley Road conspiracy? Anyone able to give me a 100-word summary?
Oh no, please, not again....Mr Meeks call the Leave campaign Xenophobic or something again, anything, not this.
This is truly bizarre!
I, like Cookie, have absolutely no idea what the 'Finchley Road conspiracy' is. Nor do I understand Nunghman's references to Christopher Wood and RT. Now maybe I am just being dense as usual... but will somebody please explain, just a little?
I genuinely can't help. I have been on this site for a decade or more now and have never understood what Hunchman is getting at about this even though I find him a very nice chap to take to and agree on a lot of other stuff with.
I have tended just to skim over it all as it eventually dies down after a day or so.
Ok, thanks anyway. At least it's not just me!
Does the Panama Papers and the Paradise Papers mean anything to you? If you care to pore through the many companies named in those reports, you will see that they trace back to common addresses in London, including Mossack Fonseca including their UK operation out of Hitchin in Hertfordshire.
Donations are a complete red herring in all this. There is no evidence that any of them broke the rules regarding such matters. No evidence that it has bought influence to make the UK more symosympath towards Russia. It is just a distraction from the real closeness. And that is the Corbynite closeness to many regimes. The money taken by Labour MPs from RT is far more tainted. The praise lauded on Venezuela and the utter lack.of outright condemnation of the political violence being perpetrated out there. The friendship with Hamas and Hezbollah. All of this and more is why many on the Left are bleating about legal.donations in attempt to divert attention from their close links to objectionable regimes round the globe.
Putin is a stain on the world community. And whilst there is little we can do to practically stop him, we need to take a lead against him. The World Cup should be boycotted. Russia should not be able to compete in any international event whether sporting or cultural. A stand has to be taken.
Except Conservative MP's take more money from RT...
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
He is less popular then Theresa May. She beats him every time in best PM polls.
Ed Miliband was further ahead in the polls in 2012 than Corbyn is.
I notice you cant answer my point that if Corbyn had been PM in the 1990s thousands of people would have been murdered in Kosovo. He opposed the war against Milosovich.
You are going to get a terrible shock on election night 2022.
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
He is less popular then Theresa May. She beats him every time in best PM polls.
Ed Miliband was further ahead in the polls in 2012 than Corbyn is.
I notice you cant answer my point that if Corbyn had been PM in the 1990s thousands of people would have been murdered in Kosovo. He opposed the war against Milosovich.
You are going to get a terrible shock on election night 2022.
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
He is less popular then Theresa May. She beats him every time in best PM polls.
Ed Miliband was further ahead in the polls in 2012 than Corbyn is.
I notice you cant answer my point that if Corbyn had been PM in the 1990s thousands of people would have been murdered in Kosovo. He opposed the war against Milosovich.
You are going to get a terrible shock on election night 2022.
Can tell the extreme right wing nutcases on here are rattled today from all the spit-flecks.
All this extreme anti-russia hysteria the westminster bubble is enjoying getting lathered into is bizarre. And would be worrying if it weren't for the fact that the noise is inversely proportional to the ability to go to war, the otherwise usual response to smaller countries that happen to be inconvenient to our feral ruling class and their various lucrative overseas entanglements.
Rattled by what? Why are only right wing people rattled by what has happened? Are left wingers not concerned about attacks in the UK? That seems implausible. Given what the government said about the origin of the agent used in the attack, Russia as suspect or a negligent party appears a reasonable conclusion, can we assume therefore you do not believe the government are not telling the truth about the agent used? To what purpose? We have no election coming up soon for the government to attempt to rally support around, we already were not on good terms with Russia and our opposition would not and should not stop holding the government to account because of it.
Oh, and 'feral ruling class'? What are you on about?
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
He's pushing the bounds of hubris to discover just when that popularity breaks.
He lost the general election.
He had the biggest post war increase in the Labour vote despite lukewarm PLP efforts
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
He's pushing the bounds of hubris to discover just when that popularity breaks.
He lost the general election.
He had the biggest post war increase in the Labour vote despite lukewarm PLP efforts
Good for him, and it meant the Tories also did not really win despite coming out on top. He still lost. (But I think he will get over the line next time).
Donations are a complete red herring in all this. There is no evidence that any of them broke the rules regarding such matters. No evidence that it has bought influence to make the UK more symosympath towards Russia. It is just a distraction from the real closeness. And that is the Corbynite closeness to many regimes. The money taken by Labour MPs from RT is far more tainted. The praise lauded on Venezuela and the utter lack.of outright condemnation of the political violence being perpetrated out there. The friendship with Hamas and Hezbollah. All of this and more is why many on the Left are bleating about legal.donations in attempt to divert attention from their close links to objectionable regimes round the globe.
Putin is a stain on the world community. And whilst there is little we can do to practically stop him, we need to take a lead against him. The World Cup should be boycotted. Russia should not be able to compete in any international event whether sporting or cultural. A stand has to be taken.
Except Conservative MP's take more money from RT...
Donations are a complete red herring in all this. There is no evidence that any of them broke the rules regarding such matters. No evidence that it has bought influence to make the UK more symosympath towards Russia. It is just a distraction from the real closeness. And that is the Corbynite closeness to many regimes. The money taken by Labour MPs from RT is far more tainted. The praise lauded on Venezuela and the utter lack.of outright condemnation of the political violence being perpetrated out there. The friendship with Hamas and Hezbollah. All of this and more is why many on the Left are bleating about legal.donations in attempt to divert attention from their close links to objectionable regimes round the globe.
Putin is a stain on the world community. And whilst there is little we can do to practically stop him, we need to take a lead against him. The World Cup should be boycotted. Russia should not be able to compete in any international event whether sporting or cultural. A stand has to be taken.
Except Conservative MP's take more money from RT...
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
He's pushing the bounds of hubris to discover just when that popularity breaks.
He lost the general election.
He had the biggest post war increase in the Labour vote despite lukewarm PLP efforts
Good for him, and it meant the Tories also did not really win despite coming out on top. He still lost. (But I think he will get over the line next time).
He won about the same number of seats that Gordon Brown won in 2010 on one of Labour's lowest votes. He failed to win crucial marginals. And the Tories won their largest percentage of the vote since Thatcher in 1987.
And Labour's vote was despite Corbyn not because of him.
Corbyn could not win even against the worst Tory campaign in living memory. He will be crushed in 2022.
Donations are a complete red herring in all this. There is no evidence that any of them broke the rules regarding such matters. No evidence that it has bought influence to make the UK more symosympath towards Russia. It is just a distraction from the real closeness. And that is the Corbynite closeness to many regimes. The money taken by Labour MPs from RT is far more tainted. The praise lauded on Venezuela and the utter lack.of outright condemnation of the political violence being perpetrated out there. The friendship with Hamas and Hezbollah. All of this and more is why many on the Left are bleating about legal.donations in attempt to divert attention from their close links to objectionable regimes round the globe.
Putin is a stain on the world community. And whilst there is little we can do to practically stop him, we need to take a lead against him. The World Cup should be boycotted. Russia should not be able to compete in any international event whether sporting or cultural. A stand has to be taken.
Except Conservative MP's take more money from RT...
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
He's pushing the bounds of hubris to discover just when that popularity breaks.
He lost the general election.
He had the biggest post war increase in the Labour vote despite lukewarm PLP efforts
Good for him, and it meant the Tories also did not really win despite coming out on top. He still lost. (But I think he will get over the line next time).
He won about the same number of seats that Gordon Brown won in 2010 on one of Labour's lowest votes. He failed to win crucial marginals. And the Tories won their largest percentage of the vote since Thatcher in 1987.
And Labour's vote was despite Corbyn not because of him.
Corbyn could not win even against the worst Tory campaign in living memory. He will be crushed in 2022.
I look forward to your reaction when it happens.
I voted Tory for the first time in no small part due to Corbyn. I do not predict his victory because I want it. I predict it because the Tories will be riven by Brexit wars, we're due for a recession, and they will have been in office a long time in 2022.
Edit: And like any good armchair pundit, I don't have a problem being very wrong in my predictions, nor let it slow me down in making new ones. Lighten up.
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
He's pushing the bounds of hubris to discover just when that popularity breaks.
He lost the general election.
He had the biggest post war increase in the Labour vote despite lukewarm PLP efforts
Good for him, and it meant the Tories also did not really win despite coming out on top. He still lost. (But I think he will get over the line next time).
He won about the same number of seats that Gordon Brown won in 2010 on one of Labour's lowest votes. He failed to win crucial marginals. And the Tories won their largest percentage of the vote since Thatcher in 1987.
And Labour's vote was despite Corbyn not because of him.
Corbyn could not win even against the worst Tory campaign in living memory. He will be crushed in 2022.
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
He's pushing the bounds of hubris to discover just when that popularity breaks.
He lost the general election.
He had the biggest post war increase in the Labour vote despite lukewarm PLP efforts
Good for him, and it meant the Tories also did not really win despite coming out on top. He still lost. (But I think he will get over the line next time).
He won about the same number of seats that Gordon Brown won in 2010 on one of Labour's lowest votes. He failed to win crucial marginals. And the Tories won their largest percentage of the vote since Thatcher in 1987.
And Labour's vote was despite Corbyn not because of him.
Corbyn could not win even against the worst Tory campaign in living memory. He will be crushed in 2022.
I look forward to your reaction when it happens.
I voted Tory for the first time in no small part due to Corbyn. I do not predict his victory because I want it. I predict it because the Tories will be riven by Brexit wars, we're due for a recession, and they will have been in office a long time in 2022.
A recession would make it even harder for Corbyn to win.
In economically insecure times people cling to nurse for finding something worse.
People arent going to vote for a bunch of Marxists to send the economy completely over the edge when its teetering over the brink.
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
He's pushing the bounds of hubris to discover just when that popularity breaks.
He lost the general election.
He had the biggest post war increase in the Labour vote despite lukewarm PLP efforts
Good for him, and it meant the Tories also did not really win despite coming out on top. He still lost. (But I think he will get over the line next time).
He won about the same number of seats that Gordon Brown won in 2010 on one of Labour's lowest votes. He failed to win crucial marginals. And the Tories won their largest percentage of the vote since Thatcher in 1987.
And Labour's vote was despite Corbyn not because of him.
Corbyn could not win even against the worst Tory campaign in living memory. He will be crushed in 2022.
I look forward to your reaction when it happens.
I voted Tory for the first time in no small part due to Corbyn. I do not predict his victory because I want it. I predict it because the Tories will be riven by Brexit wars, we're due for a recession, and they will have been in office a long time in 2022.
Me too. I had been a Labour man through and through until I realised the party had sold its soul.
I can't see how England pulling out of the WC would hurt Putin. They'd just pull in another European team (Italy probably). It would only hurt England.
Can tell the extreme right wing nutcases on here are rattled today from all the spit-flecks.
All this extreme anti-russia hysteria the westminster bubble is enjoying getting lathered into is bizarre. And would be worrying if it weren't for the fact that the noise is inversely proportional to the ability to go to war, the otherwise usual response to smaller countries that happen to be inconvenient to our feral ruling class and their various lucrative overseas entanglements.
Could you identify a couple of these feral wars against smaller countries, please? The more recent the better.
Donations are a complete red herring in all this. There is no evidence that any of them broke the rules regarding such matters. No evidence that it has bought influence to make the UK more symosympath towards Russia. It is just a distraction from the real closeness. And that is the Corbynite closeness to many regimes. The money taken by Labour MPs from RT is far more tainted. The praise lauded on Venezuela and the utter lack.of outright condemnation of the political violence being perpetrated out there. The friendship with Hamas and Hezbollah. All of this and more is why many on the Left are bleating about legal.donations in attempt to divert attention from their close links to objectionable regimes round the globe.
Putin is a stain on the world community. And whilst there is little we can do to practically stop him, we need to take a lead against him. The World Cup should be boycotted. Russia should not be able to compete in any international event whether sporting or cultural. A stand has to be taken.
Except Conservative MP's take more money from RT...
Donations are a complete red herring in all this. There is no evidence that any of them broke the rules regarding such matters. No evidence that it has bought influence to make the UK more symosympath towards Russia. It is just a distraction from the real closeness. And that is the Corbynite closeness to many regimes. The money taken by Labour MPs from RT is far more tainted. The praise lauded on Venezuela and the utter lack.of outright condemnation of the political violence being perpetrated out there. The friendship with Hamas and Hezbollah. All of this and more is why many on the Left are bleating about legal.donations in attempt to divert attention from their close links to objectionable regimes round the globe.
Putin is a stain on the world community. And whilst there is little we can do to practically stop him, we need to take a lead against him. The World Cup should be boycotted. Russia should not be able to compete in any international event whether sporting or cultural. A stand has to be taken.
Except Conservative MP's take more money from RT...
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
A majority of Britons do not. He is a loser and will lose in 2022. He is a vile old man
Yet a very popular one.
He's pushing the bounds of hubris to discover just when that popularity breaks.
He lost the general election.
He had the biggest post war increase in the Labour vote despite lukewarm PLP efforts
Good for him, and it meant the Tories also did not really win despite coming out on top. He still lost. (But I think he will get over the line next time).
He Corbyn could not win even against the worst Tory campaign in living memory. He will be crushed in 2022.
I look forward to your reaction when it happens.
I voted Tory for the first time in no small part due to Corbyn. I do not predict his victory because I want it. I predict it because the Tories will be riven by Brexit wars, we're due for a recession, and they will have been in office a long time in 2022.
A recession would make it even harder for Corbyn to win.
In economically insecure times people cling to nurse for finding something worse.
People arent going to vote for a bunch of Marxists to send the economy completely over the edge when its teetering over the brink.
When things get bad enough, we might be surprised by what people will do. I think it would be easier for Labour without Corbyn (albeit with someone also able to energise the base), but ultimately elections seem to come down to 'time for a change' and 'don't risk it'. At some point the former will trump the latter, even if the risk is very high, and a decline in the Tory vote from apathy and infighting, larger than a decline in the Labour vote, and Labour being largest party, seems to me to be the most likely, especially if they can gain back a bunch more Scottish seats.
Donations are a complete red herring in all this. There is no evidence that any of them broke the rules regarding such matters. No evidence that it has bought influence to make the UK more symosympath towards Russia. It is just a distraction from the real closeness. And that is the Corbynite closeness to many regimes. The money taken by Labour MPs from RT is far more tainted. The praise lauded on Venezuela and the utter lack.of outright condemnation of the political violence being perpetrated out there. The friendship with Hamas and Hezbollah. All of this and more is why many on the Left are bleating about legal.donations in attempt to divert attention from their close links to objectionable regimes round the globe.
Putin is a stain on the world community. And whilst there is little we can do to practically stop him, we need to take a lead against him. The World Cup should be boycotted. Russia should not be able to compete in any international event whether sporting or cultural. A stand has to be taken.
Except Conservative MP's take more money from RT...
Ah but the Tories' RT money is not as tainted as the Labour RT money.
Nor is their "closeness" in any way as near.
But today it was the labour MP's demanding Russia Today was blocked
I think Dixie was being ironic. I certainly was. Tory MPs have taken four times as much money from RT than Labour MPs. That's the key point to remmeber.
Donations are a complete red herring in all this. There is no evidence that any of them broke the rules regarding such matters. No evidence that it has bought influence to make the UK more symosympath towards Russia. It is just a distraction from the real closeness. And that is the Corbynite closeness to many regimes. The money taken by Labour MPs from RT is far more tainted. The praise lauded on Venezuela and the utter lack.of outright condemnation of the political violence being perpetrated out there. The friendship with Hamas and Hezbollah. All of this and more is why many on the Left are bleating about legal.donations in attempt to divert attention from their close links to objectionable regimes round the globe.
Putin is a stain on the world community. And whilst there is little we can do to practically stop him, we need to take a lead against him. The World Cup should be boycotted. Russia should not be able to compete in any international event whether sporting or cultural. A stand has to be taken.
Except Conservative MP's take more money from RT...
Can tell the extreme right wing nutcases on here are rattled today from all the spit-flecks.
All this extreme anti-russia hysteria the westminster bubble is enjoying getting lathered into is bizarre. And would be worrying if it weren't for the fact that the noise is inversely proportional to the ability to go to war, the otherwise usual response to smaller countries that happen to be inconvenient to our feral ruling class and their various lucrative overseas entanglements.
You can tell the far left lunatics on here would downplay any attack on us when they shruge their shoulders at chemical weapons being deployed in English towns. Truly a despicable class of people that have sold out any left wing principle of human rights.
Donations are a complete red herring in all this. There is no evidence that any of them broke the rules regarding such matters. No evidence that it has bought influence to make the UK more symosympath towards Russia. It is just a distraction from the real closeness. And that is the Corbynite closeness to many regimes. The money taken by Labour MPs from RT is far more tainted. The praise lauded on Venezuela and the utter lack.of outright condemnation of the political violence being perpetrated out there. The friendship with Hamas and Hezbollah. All of this and more is why many on the Left are bleating about legal.donations in attempt to divert attention from their close links to objectionable regimes round the globe.
Putin is a stain on the world community. And whilst there is little we can do to practically stop him, we need to take a lead against him. The World Cup should be boycotted. Russia should not be able to compete in any international event whether sporting or cultural. A stand has to be taken.
Except Conservative MP's take more money from RT...
Ah but the Tories' RT money is not as tainted as the Labour RT money.
Nor is their "closeness" in any way as near.
But today it was the labour MP's demanding Russia Today was blocked
I think Dixie was being ironic. I certainly was. Tory MPs have taken four times as much money from RT than Labour MPs. That's the key point to remmeber.
After today the thing I will remember is Corbyn being trashed by his own MPs. Utterly amazing
Donations are a complete red herring in all this. There is no evidence that any of them broke the rules regarding such matters. No evidence that it has bought influence to make the UK more symosympath towards Russia. It is just a distraction from the real closeness. And that is the Corbynite closeness to many regimes. The money taken by Labour MPs from RT is far more tainted. The praise lauded on Venezuela and the utter lack.of outright condemnation of the political violence being perpetrated out there. The friendship with Hamas and Hezbollah. All of this and more is why many on the Left are bleating about legal.donations in attempt to divert attention from their close links to objectionable regimes round the globe.
Putin is a stain on the world community. And whilst there is little we can do to practically stop him, we need to take a lead against him. The World Cup should be boycotted. Russia should not be able to compete in any international event whether sporting or cultural. A stand has to be taken.
Except Conservative MP's take more money from RT...
Comments
We're through the looking glass here...
His record is less than flawless.
But it needs a thoughtful approach rather than a bellicose one. Not least because the latter is what Putin wants.
Edit - remember this is a man who has a Nobel Peace Prize and in the only democratic election he fought (1996) got 0.5% of the vote.
Merkel donned brown trousers and hid.
Although we differ markedly in our political outlook, I find your loyalty to leader endearing. Keep it up!
Which makes me feel that the Skripal attack was a complete feck-up, either by rogue elements or planned as an undetectable hit by the FBS that went wrong.
(PS if anybody from the FBS is reading this, I'm really SeanT, ok.)
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/corbyns-woeful-record-on-defence
He is unfit to be prime minister or opposition leader.
Later this week will be interesting but tonight France has pledged support and no doubt other Countries and agencies will come out in support over the following days
I suspect had he announced he was relinquishing the leadership the effect would be better and larger.
I guess that will be part of the Russian explanation "oh it's some old stuff someone got their hands on".
It is the only language they understand.
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/973265398572384256?s=19
I think Britons are fed up of foreign wars, though stopping the money laundering in the City of dirty Russian money would probably be popular with the Mob.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/08/28/putin-saw-the-panama-papers-as-a-personal-attack-and-may-have-wanted-revenge-russian-authors-say/
Ed Miliband was further ahead in the polls in 2012 than Corbyn is.
I notice you cant answer my point that if Corbyn had been PM in the 1990s thousands of people would have been murdered in Kosovo. He opposed the war against Milosovich.
You are going to get a terrible shock on election night 2022.
Putin is a stain on the world community. And whilst there is little we can do to practically stop him, we need to take a lead against him. The World Cup should be boycotted. Russia should not be able to compete in any international event whether sporting or cultural. A stand has to be taken.
It is becoming increasingly difficult to separate the Russian State from the kleptocratic elite. An investigation of their incomes and holdings and the threat to publish any results could be our most effective weapon.
Make clear we are targetting only those close to the regime not the Russian people.
"Visa problems" for elite private schools and Universities could also, unavoidably, occur
For example, how will White Van Man feel about a World Cup Boycott?
And then, there’s Europe.
Thread:
https://twitter.com/chrisgreybrexit/status/973324428963663872
All this extreme anti-russia hysteria the westminster bubble is enjoying getting lathered into is bizarre. And would be worrying if it weren't for the fact that the noise is inversely proportional to the ability to go to war, the otherwise usual response to smaller countries that happen to be inconvenient to our feral ruling class and their various lucrative overseas entanglements.
https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/973260257513353217
Given we haven't left yet, I am curious how it is not theoretical that what happened in Salisbury is because of our security being weakened because of Brexit/
https://politicalscrapbook.net/.../tory-mps-have-taken-much-money-from-russia-today-th...
https://twitter.com/VaughnHillyard/status/973325643160215560
Oh, and 'feral ruling class'? What are you on about?
Trump views the special relationship as purely transactional, at best, and we are cutting ourselves off from our partners in Europe.
No country on Earth understands, or sympathises with, our main and only domestic and foreign policy: Brext.
And a plurality of the country wish to vote for an anti-Western populist who surrounds himself with anti-Semites and Trots.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/12/poll-pennsylvania-special-election-454909
And Labour's vote was despite Corbyn not because of him.
Corbyn could not win even against the worst Tory campaign in living memory. He will be crushed in 2022.
I look forward to your reaction when it happens.
Edit: And like any good armchair pundit, I don't have a problem being very wrong in my predictions, nor let it slow me down in making new ones. Lighten up.
It’s todo with the embedding of liaison officers within each other’s intelligence services
In economically insecure times people cling to nurse for finding something worse.
People arent going to vote for a bunch of Marxists to send the economy completely over the edge when its teetering over the brink.
What happens to Labour when Corbyn is found out.
Because he will be found out. Of that I am 100% certain.
No obviously not.
Were Tories demanding it blocked?