Mr. Anorak, F1 cars are rather scarcer and travel on different surfaces to normal cars. Comparing the two isn't much use.
Great leaps forward have been made in safety over recent decades, but F1 bigwigs have also shown themselves to be utterly incapable of grasping obvious problems with rule changes. The elimination qualifying experiment, that everyone said would be woeful, turned out to be woeful.
I hope I'm not proved right, but there are serious question marks over the halo.
Fair enough. As I say, I'm not really in a position to speak authoritatively. Although, being the internet, it's not going to stop me trying.
So still a clear No vote then but with Unionist parties set to win a majority at the next Holyrood elections indyref2 discussion is becoming irrelevant anyway
Again, glad to see that you accept that an indy majority at Holyrood keeps the discussion 'relevant'.
No as the SNP tried to push indyref2 at the general election and lost almost half their MPs thus giving Westminster a mandate to block it anyway
By my reckoning 35 out of 59 is a majority...
And 21 isn't 'almost half' of 56.
It was the second biggest loss of MPs in Scotland by a party at a general election since WW2 after 2015
So still a clear No vote then but with Unionist parties set to win a majority at the next Holyrood elections indyref2 discussion is becoming irrelevant anyway
Again, glad to see that you accept that an indy majority at Holyrood keeps the discussion 'relevant'.
No as the SNP tried to push indyref2 at the general election and lost almost half their MPs thus giving Westminster a mandate to block it anyway
By my reckoning 35 out of 59 is a majority...
And 21 isn't 'almost half' of 56.
It was the second biggest loss of MPs in Scotland by a party at a general election since WW2 after 2015
Still, 21 isn't 'almost half' of 56. But you keep saying it if it comforts you.
"The working class love putting the bunting out in the summer and having a bbq when the World Cup is on even if our biggest achievement ends up being beating Latvia at the group stage in extra time."
This - from @HYUFD - is wonderful. God bless the working class with its bunting and BBQs.
Absolutely devastated by the death of Stephen Hawking.
He helped confirm my love of science, and physics in particular.
You're not going to wheel out the hadron joke again, are you?
I'm wearing the t shirt with that joke on.
A photon checks into a hotel. "Can I help you with your suitcase?" "No, I'm travelling light."
"What can I get you?" says the bartender. A tachyon walks into a bar.
Two atoms were walking across a road when one of them said, "I think I lost an electron!" "Really!" the other replied, "Are you sure?" "Yes, I 'm absolutely positive."
"The working class love putting the bunting out in the summer and having a bbq when the World Cup is on even if our biggest achievement ends up being beating Latvia at the group stage in extra time."
This - from @HYUFD - is wonderful. God bless the working class with its bunting and BBQs.
"The working class love putting the bunting out in the summer and having a bbq when the World Cup is on even if our biggest achievement ends up being beating Latvia at the group stage in extra time."
This - from @HYUFD - is wonderful. God bless the working class with its bunting and BBQs.
Well go past any council estate in England or terraced street in the North and Midlands when the World Cup is on and you will see my point
Is Corbyn for real - I accept that I do not support him but today he is again being taken to the cleaners by TM
on the NHS....
This is akin to last night's Man Utd performance
I had it more akin to Spurs v Juventus.
We scored, had triple the number of shots and double the number of shots on target than Juve... I think Man U's performance closer to the 'absolute boy' today (tm St Hodges)
Absolutely devastated by the death of Stephen Hawking.
He helped confirm my love of science, and physics in particular.
You're not going to wheel out the hadron joke again, are you?
I'm wearing the t shirt with that joke on.
A photon checks into a hotel. "Can I help you with your suitcase?" "No, I'm travelling light."
"What can I get you?" says the bartender. A tachyon walks into a bar.
Two atoms were walking across a road when one of them said, "I think I lost an electron!" "Really!" the other replied, "Are you sure?" "Yes, I 'm absolutely positive."
[yours was better, I admit!]
Have you heard that entropy isn't what it used to be?
"The working class love putting the bunting out in the summer and having a bbq when the World Cup is on even if our biggest achievement ends up being beating Latvia at the group stage in extra time."
This - from @HYUFD - is wonderful. God bless the working class with its bunting and BBQs.
Well go past any council estate in England or terraced street in the North and Midlands when the World Cup is on and you will see my point
I would, but am concerned that I might upset the Royal Wedding street parties and whippet races.
So still a clear No vote then but with Unionist parties set to win a majority at the next Holyrood elections indyref2 discussion is becoming irrelevant anyway
Again, glad to see that you accept that an indy majority at Holyrood keeps the discussion 'relevant'.
No as the SNP tried to push indyref2 at the general election and lost almost half their MPs thus giving Westminster a mandate to block it anyway
By my reckoning 35 out of 59 is a majority...
And 21 isn't 'almost half' of 56.
It was the second biggest loss of MPs in Scotland by a party at a general election since WW2 after 2015
and still a majority, suck it up we know what Tories are up here, without their Labour buddies helping them next time it will be circling the drain time and Buffalo Bill will be off
"The working class love putting the bunting out in the summer and having a bbq when the World Cup is on even if our biggest achievement ends up being beating Latvia at the group stage in extra time."
This - from @HYUFD - is wonderful. God bless the working class with its bunting and BBQs.
Well go past any council estate in England or terraced street in the North and Midlands when the World Cup is on and you will see my point
I would, but am concerned that I might upset the Royal Wedding street parties and whippet races.
I thought you were going to be in Russia for the World Cup
Is Corbyn for real - I accept that I do not support him but today he is again being taken to the cleaners by TM
on the NHS....
This is akin to last night's Man Utd performance
I had it more akin to Spurs v Juventus.
We scored, had triple the number of shots and double the number of shots on target than Juve... I think Man U's performance closer to the 'absolute boy' today (tm St Hodges)
Six times, we're going to win it six times in Kiev this May.
"The working class love putting the bunting out in the summer and having a bbq when the World Cup is on even if our biggest achievement ends up being beating Latvia at the group stage in extra time."
This - from @HYUFD - is wonderful. God bless the working class with its bunting and BBQs.
Well go past any council estate in England or terraced street in the North and Midlands when the World Cup is on and you will see my point
I would, but am concerned that I might upset the Royal Wedding street parties and whippet races.
"The working class love putting the bunting out in the summer and having a bbq when the World Cup is on even if our biggest achievement ends up being beating Latvia at the group stage in extra time."
This - from @HYUFD - is wonderful. God bless the working class with its bunting and BBQs.
Well go past any council estate in England or terraced street in the North and Midlands when the World Cup is on and you will see my point
You've just patronised the working class to win an inch of their lives.
So still a clear No vote then but with Unionist parties set to win a majority at the next Holyrood elections indyref2 discussion is becoming irrelevant anyway
Again, glad to see that you accept that an indy majority at Holyrood keeps the discussion 'relevant'.
No as the SNP tried to push indyref2 at the general election and lost almost half their MPs thus giving Westminster a mandate to block it anyway
By my reckoning 35 out of 59 is a majority...
And 21 isn't 'almost half' of 56.
It was the second biggest loss of MPs in Scotland by a party at a general election since WW2 after 2015
and still a majority, suck it up we know what Tories are up here, without their Labour buddies helping them next time it will be circling the drain time and Buffalo Bill will be off
"The working class love putting the bunting out in the summer and having a bbq when the World Cup is on even if our biggest achievement ends up being beating Latvia at the group stage in extra time."
This - from @HYUFD - is wonderful. God bless the working class with its bunting and BBQs.
Well go past any council estate in England or terraced street in the North and Midlands when the World Cup is on and you will see my point
I would, but am concerned that I might upset the Royal Wedding street parties and whippet races.
I thought you were going to be in Russia for the World Cup
I am, but only for the Semis and Final.
Football combined with viewing the sites of the October revolution is the plan.
"The working class love putting the bunting out in the summer and having a bbq when the World Cup is on even if our biggest achievement ends up being beating Latvia at the group stage in extra time."
This - from @HYUFD - is wonderful. God bless the working class with its bunting and BBQs.
Well go past any council estate in England or terraced street in the North and Midlands when the World Cup is on and you will see my point
I would, but am concerned that I might upset the Royal Wedding street parties and whippet races.
Fortunately the Royal Wedding is the month before
One to miss for sure , all those inbred halfwits and the moronic sheeple cheering , no thanks.
"The working class love putting the bunting out in the summer and having a bbq when the World Cup is on even if our biggest achievement ends up being beating Latvia at the group stage in extra time."
This - from @HYUFD - is wonderful. God bless the working class with its bunting and BBQs.
Well go past any council estate in England or terraced street in the North and Midlands when the World Cup is on and you will see my point
You've just patronised the working class to win an inch of their lives.
I take grave exception to the SW not being patronised within an inch of our lives too. We equally know how to fly a flag and fire up a BBQ too!
Mr. Anorak, if an F1 driver is stuck in an overturned car that's on fire (unlikely but not impossible, we usually see a few fires a year) his thoughts won't be full of gratitude to the halo making him feel safe.
You could argue that car seatbelts are a menace to those unfortunate enough to drive into a river, but it doesn't make them a bad idea.
I can't believe that this objection hasn't been discussed at great length by the various committees and approvers of the change, and thus that the consensus is that it does more good than harm.
I don't think it even needs discussing. Having done over 1500 hours flying as a passenger in helicopters including one ditching in the Mediterranean, I am certain I would not feel at all safe flying in one without seat belts. These days in the North Sea that means a quick release 4 point harness. It is possible there could be some debate about the type of seatbelt being used on the New York chopper but the basic point needs to be made that you only get to worry about drowning if you survive the impact and seat belts are vital part of making sure you do survive.
So still a clear No vote then but with Unionist parties set to win a majority at the next Holyrood elections indyref2 discussion is becoming irrelevant anyway
Again, glad to see that you accept that an indy majority at Holyrood keeps the discussion 'relevant'.
No as the SNP tried to push indyref2 at the general election and lost almost half their MPs thus giving Westminster a mandate to block it anyway
By my reckoning 35 out of 59 is a majority...
And 21 isn't 'almost half' of 56.
It was the second biggest loss of MPs in Scotland by a party at a general election since WW2 after 2015
and still a majority, suck it up we know what Tories are up here, without their Labour buddies helping them next time it will be circling the drain time and Buffalo Bill will be off
You are funny Maic
It is the Truth G, they are shocking, only saving grace for them is the state of Labour , they make even the Tories look just duffers.
"The working class love putting the bunting out in the summer and having a bbq when the World Cup is on even if our biggest achievement ends up being beating Latvia at the group stage in extra time."
This - from @HYUFD - is wonderful. God bless the working class with its bunting and BBQs.
Well go past any council estate in England or terraced street in the North and Midlands when the World Cup is on and you will see my point
I would, but am concerned that I might upset the Royal Wedding street parties and whippet races.
Fortunately the Royal Wedding is the month before
One to miss for sure , all those inbred halfwits and the moronic sheeple cheering , no thanks.
I shall be joining my cruise ship in Rome at the time of the wedding so really looking forward to the 19th May for very different reasons
So still a clear No vote then but with Unionist parties set to win a majority at the next Holyrood elections indyref2 discussion is becoming irrelevant anyway
Again, glad to see that you accept that an indy majority at Holyrood keeps the discussion 'relevant'.
No as the SNP tried to push indyref2 at the general election and lost almost half their MPs thus giving Westminster a mandate to block it anyway
By my reckoning 35 out of 59 is a majority...
And 21 isn't 'almost half' of 56.
It was the second biggest loss of MPs in Scotland by a party at a general election since WW2 after 2015
and still a majority, suck it up we know what Tories are up here, without their Labour buddies helping them next time it will be circling the drain time and Buffalo Bill will be off
You are funny Maic
It is the Truth G, they are shocking, only saving grace for them is the state of Labour , they make even the Tories look just duffers.
Mr. NorthWales, I heard somewhere that during the war, Welshmen were specially employed to converse over the telephone, as the Germans had no idea what they were saying.
Mr. NorthWales, I heard somewhere that during the war, Welshmen were specially employed to converse over the telephone, as the Germans had no idea what they were saying.
The Americans hired Navajo speakers to confuse the Japanese in WWII for the same reason.
And officers in the British Raj would sometimes communicate in Greek or Latin.
May says 23 Russian diplomats will be expelled. They have been identified as undeclared intelligence officers. It will be the largest explusion for 30 years. They will have a week to leave, she says.
May says the government will draw up legislation to protect the UK from hostile state activity.
The government will consider new anti-espionage legislation, she says.
May says the government will include Magnitsky-type amendments to the sanctions bill.
She says the government will increase checks on Russians coming into the country.
She says there is “no place” for the corrupt elites in the UK.
"The working class love putting the bunting out in the summer and having a bbq when the World Cup is on even if our biggest achievement ends up being beating Latvia at the group stage in extra time."
This - from @HYUFD - is wonderful. God bless the working class with its bunting and BBQs.
Well go past any council estate in England or terraced street in the North and Midlands when the World Cup is on and you will see my point
You've just patronised the working class to win an inch of their lives.
Although to be fair I have some connection to them, my great grandfather was a bookie
So still a clear No vote then but with Unionist parties set to win a majority at the next Holyrood elections indyref2 discussion is becoming irrelevant anyway
Again, glad to see that you accept that an indy majority at Holyrood keeps the discussion 'relevant'.
No as the SNP tried to push indyref2 at the general election and lost almost half their MPs thus giving Westminster a mandate to block it anyway
By my reckoning 35 out of 59 is a majority...
And 21 isn't 'almost half' of 56.
It was the second biggest loss of MPs in Scotland by a party at a general election since WW2 after 2015
and still a majority, suck it up we know what Tories are up here, without their Labour buddies helping them next time it will be circling the drain time and Buffalo Bill will be off
Labour is still a Unionist Party and polls predict a majority for Unionist Parties at the next Scottish Parliament elections
Unilateral disarmament was a Labour one, in both the 1930s and the 1980s - the latter supported by Corbyn both then and now, I think.
Pacifism was indeed the policy in the early thirties, but after the Italian war invasion of Ethiopia, Lansbury resigned in October 1935, and Attlee took over with support for rearmament. Appeasement of the Nazis came later, under the Tories.
That's true. But it was a bit rich of Labour to oppose appeasement when two of the reasons for it were the lack of military resources, and the public opposition to action, both of which Labour (including Attlee) were in part responsible for.
It is, as an aside, I don't think it's true to say that "Attlee took over with support for rearmament"? If i remember correctly, the pacifist agenda outlived Lansbury and Labour fought the 1935 election on that platform - although Labour did start to move away from it a little earlier, endorsing sanctions over Abyssinia, which was what prompted Lansbury's removal.
Retrospectoscopes do distort our vision of the 1930s quite severely. The early thirties were internationally experienced as a crisis of Capitalism and the capability of Democracies to cope with it. It was only the second half of the Thirties that the external risks of totalitarian regimes became the major issue.
It is simply a matter of fact that Appeasment was the policy of the Tory government in the late Thirties, and until 1938 a fairly popular one. Labour were in opposition, and so cannot be blamed for it. Chamberlain may have been a poor PM but he was a very good CoE, so not all bad.
Yes, and he was an outstanding Secretary of State for Health.
But while the majority of the responsibility for Britain's fairly abject preparations for WWII are inevitably the fault of the government, the extent to which military expenditure was restrained by public opposition, which was led by Labour, shouldn't be ignored.
It's certainly true that the early 1930s were a different era from the second half but the fact that Labour was still championing disarmament and pacifism through to 1935, when Hitler had been in power for nearly three years, and when he had embarked on a major remilitarisation programme showed a tremendous unreality.
In truth, we quite probably face a similar position today. Defence spending needs to increase.
To be fair to Chamberlain, he had several 'moment's to respond to. He was PM when Poland was invaded as much as when the Sudentenland was threatened.
Depends how events turn out this weekend I might finally get to do my 'Boris Johnson, the worst Foreign Secretary since Lord Halifax' piece.
It'll be a World War II themed weekend, I've got a Dunkirk themed thread almost written.
As long as it's not World War III themed.
(This does give me my chance to argue that we've either already had WW3 or we've not yet had WW2).
Nope, my focus will be entirely looking to WWII.
I love giving PBers lessons in history.
I suppose you could argue that the Remainers refusal to give up is like the Germans on the Western Front 1917-18.
The Germans could have had a half-decent chance of winning on the Western front in 1917. Russia was all but knocked out, the French army had been bled dry after Verdun and was mutinous, and the Americans hadn't yet arrived.
Even in 1918, their offensive got within a long shot of Paris, though was probably always doomed to fail short of a French civil collapse, in a way that a similar 1917 offensive might not have been.
Corbyn’s craven words will draw attention away from the fact that the government has actually done little to attack the Russians where it will actually hurt.
Corbyn’s craven words will draw attention away from the fact that the government has actually done little to attack the Russians where it will actually hurt.
It seems a suitable initial response. What else do you think she should do?
Corbyn’s craven words will draw attention away from the fact that the government has actually done little to attack the Russians where it will actually hurt.
Action against Russian interests in the City would only strengthen Putin's position in Russia, as he shows Russian mineral wealth pouring into lavish houses in Mayfair
To be fair to Chamberlain, he had several 'moment's to respond to. He was PM when Poland was invaded as much as when the Sudentenland was threatened.
Depends how events turn out this weekend I might finally get to do my 'Boris Johnson, the worst Foreign Secretary since Lord Halifax' piece.
It'll be a World War II themed weekend, I've got a Dunkirk themed thread almost written.
As long as it's not World War III themed.
(This does give me my chance to argue that we've either already had WW3 or we've not yet had WW2).
Nope, my focus will be entirely looking to WWII.
I love giving PBers lessons in history.
I suppose you could argue that the Remainers refusal to give up is like the Germans on the Western Front 1917-18.
The Germans could have had a half-decent chance of winning on the Western front in 1917. Russia was all but knocked out, the French army had been bled dry after Verdun and was mutinous, and the Americans hadn't yet arrived.
Even in 1918, their offensive got within a long shot of Paris, though was probably always doomed to fail short of a French civil collapse, in a way that a similar 1917 offensive might not have been.
We tend to forget the catastrophe of Nivelles' 1917 Chemin des Dames offensive, which effectively destroyed the French army's fighting spirit.
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This is akin to last night's Man Utd performance
A tachyon walks into a bar.
Mr. Anorak (2), indeed
But you keep saying it if it comforts you.
This - from @HYUFD - is wonderful. God bless the working class with its bunting and BBQs.
"Really!" the other replied, "Are you sure?"
"Yes, I 'm absolutely positive."
[yours was better, I admit!]
You should never date quantum physicists because they are bad lovers?
Because when they find the position, they can't find the momentum, and when they have the momentum, they can't find the position.
(I hope)
His handle describes him as a conspiracy theorist.
Football combined with viewing the sites of the October revolution is the plan.
https://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/24/europe/dead-russians/index.html
https://twitter.com/alextomo/status/973901153682509824
Can they veto ?
And officers in the British Raj would sometimes communicate in Greek or Latin.
England will still go to World Cup but no Royal or official delegation with them.
Good start from May
May says 23 Russian diplomats will be expelled. They have been identified as undeclared intelligence officers. It will be the largest explusion for 30 years. They will have a week to leave, she says.
May says the government will draw up legislation to protect the UK from hostile state activity.
The government will consider new anti-espionage legislation, she says.
May says the government will include Magnitsky-type amendments to the sanctions bill.
She says the government will increase checks on Russians coming into the country.
She says there is “no place” for the corrupt elites in the UK.
Hmm.
I spoke too soon.
But while the majority of the responsibility for Britain's fairly abject preparations for WWII are inevitably the fault of the government, the extent to which military expenditure was restrained by public opposition, which was led by Labour, shouldn't be ignored.
It's certainly true that the early 1930s were a different era from the second half but the fact that Labour was still championing disarmament and pacifism through to 1935, when Hitler had been in power for nearly three years, and when he had embarked on a major remilitarisation programme showed a tremendous unreality.
In truth, we quite probably face a similar position today. Defence spending needs to increase.
Said pot to Kettle
Even in 1918, their offensive got within a long shot of Paris, though was probably always doomed to fail short of a French civil collapse, in a way that a similar 1917 offensive might not have been.
She is right of course.... but what then will happen to the Conservative Party?