Whenever anyone tells you that Remain supporters will get over it in time, remember this age split in this poll. Brexit has cemented a culture divide that means for many people there is nothing now that the Conservatives can do right.
Nonsense - those youth figures would suggest a big move to the right. But you know that.
I'm a bit suspicious about Trump imposing sanctions on the same day as a disastrous election result. Maybe I've just read too many corbynite tweets and the tinfoil is rubbing off...
I'm a bit suspicious about Trump imposing sanctions on the same day as a disastrous election result. Maybe I've just read too many corbynite tweets and the tinfoil is rubbing off...
You pervert.
You don’t use tinfoil to rub yourself off, you use PVC, much easier to clean.
Mr. Meeks, you're aware that people change their political opinions over time? Not only that, the political situation itself will change. The EU in 30 years will not be the EU of today.
A large divide now does not mean there will be a large divide forever. Perhaps most importantly, the poll has nothing to do with the EU.
I agree with your last sentence. Now, explain to me why a majority of 18-34 year olds would favour Jeremy Corbyn over Theresa May on this question.
I have to say I am hearing lot more loud jet activity around Lincolnshire the last few days compared to normal. This afternoon it has been pretty much constant.
Just went to look at how many tanks Poland has (following in from a comment someone made on the previous page). Officially they have 1,065 MBTs (Leopard 2s PT-91s and T72Ms). The UK by comparison has 250.
I wonder what the serviceable numbers are for each country.
Oh and the European country with the most tanks - Greece. Although a lot of them are very old.
I read somewhere (it might have been on here years ago) that, like for fighter planes, raw tank numbers mean little for the initial months of a conflict. What matters more is the numbers of crew available and the hours of training they get per year, as tank crews and fighter pilots/navigators cannot be trained to be effective quickly.
I'll leave it to one of our military bods to either expand on this, or lambast me.
Very likely true - and Germany is failing on both counts at the moment.
If they were so minded, the Poles could possibly bring off a successful invasion if the Germans didn't get any outside help....
Theresa getting flowers given her and applause from the crowds in Salisbury
Well I’m not there and you’re not there, so who are all these other people that support the PM?
Me neither. TSE finally falling for her charms?
The poll I took part in I disapproved of Mrs May's handling of the event.
She hasn’t gone far enough in her actions.
She should be taking financial action against Putin’s cronies.
Why is it I can’t deposit 5k cash in the bank without being interrogated by the bank staff about where it came from but Ruskies can deposit billions in the UK no questions asked.
They can’t
Precisely. There's so much misinformation on this it's laughable. The London oligarchs' cash holdings are largely in Jersey, Isle of Man, Cyprus, Cayman Islands and such like. The amount of money deposited in the UK is small. Their wealth in the UK proper is largely tied up in London property.
That seems like a distinction without merit.
How was the London Property purchased without getting cash into the UK?
That is right. Solicitors are required to satisfy themselves that the money in conveyancing transactions is legit. More to the point, money is valueless unless you can exchange it for nice stuff, of which there is precious little in Jersey or the Isle of Man, which are just staging posts.
I have to say I am hearing lot more loud jet activity around Lincolnshire the last few days compared to normal. This afternoon it has been pretty much constant.
I've been walking the Great Ouse Way, and there was lots of activity on Friday and yesterday on the stretches around Ely, including two refuelling aircraft low over Tescos.
I can't imagine what it must have been like at the height of the Cold War.
Just went to look at how many tanks Poland has (following in from a comment someone made on the previous page). Officially they have 1,065 MBTs (Leopard 2s PT-91s and T72Ms). The UK by comparison has 250.
I wonder what the serviceable numbers are for each country.
Oh and the European country with the most tanks - Greece. Although a lot of them are very old.
I read somewhere (it might have been on here years ago) that, like for fighter planes, raw tank numbers mean little for the initial months of a conflict. What matters more is the numbers of crew available and the hours of training they get per year, as tank crews and fighter pilots/navigators cannot be trained to be effective quickly.
I'll leave it to one of our military bods to either expand on this, or lambast me.
Very likely true - and Germany is failing on both counts at the moment.
If they were so minded, the Poles could possibly bring off a successful invasion if the Germans didn't get any outside help....
Whenever anyone tells you that Remain supporters will get over it in time, remember this age split in this poll. Brexit has cemented a culture divide that means for many people there is nothing now that the Conservatives can do right.
If you look at the 35-54s who also voted Remain, the May/Corbyn split is 69:31. I think the Tories would take that.
How long do things like tanks remain effective? I know guns can remain (both individually and the design) of use for a very long time....
Depends what you're using them against.
The older tanks tend to be slower, more poorly armoured, and have less effective guns. There was some recent speculation that many of the German Leopards wold be unable to knock out the more recent Russian T90s, for instance (let alone the T14s, but fortunately few of those are yet in service), but many of Russia's tanks are older models too.
I have to say I am hearing lot more loud jet activity around Lincolnshire the last few days compared to normal. This afternoon it has been pretty much constant.
I've been walking the Great Ouse Way, and there was lots of activity on Friday and yesterday on the stretches around Ely, including two refuelling aircraft low over Tescos.
I can't imagine what it must have been like at the height of the Cold War.
I have lived around the Nottinghamshire/Lincolnshire border all my life and grew very used to all the aircraft activity. The Tornados used to use the chimneys of Staythorpe Power station at Newark as a waypoint and we also used to get a lot of A10 activity.
And even in Newark you could hear the afterburners of the jets taking off from the bases along the Lincolnshire edge.
That 31% polling figure is both reassuring and disturbing. Reassuring because there is a big majority against Corbyn and 31% is smaller than current Labour support. It is disturbing that so many don't see him for what he is or are prepared to live with it due to their hatred of the Tories, tribalism or niave idealism. I'm desperate for the more sensible elements in Labour to assertthemselves. I have actually considered rejoining to oppose Corbyn and McDonell but I can't campaign or vote for them whilst the current leadership is in place. I might have to actually vote Tory as things stand. The Labour leadership and shadow cabinet are beyond the democratic pale. Whay can't more see that?
I'm a bit suspicious about Trump imposing sanctions on the same day as a disastrous election result. Maybe I've just read too many corbynite tweets and the tinfoil is rubbing off...
You pervert.
You don’t use tinfoil to rub yourself off, you use PVC, much easier to clean.
I have to say I am hearing lot more loud jet activity around Lincolnshire the last few days compared to normal. This afternoon it has been pretty much constant.
I've been walking the Great Ouse Way, and there was lots of activity on Friday and yesterday on the stretches around Ely, including two refuelling aircraft low over Tescos.
I can't imagine what it must have been like at the height of the Cold War.
Theresa getting flowers given her and applause from the crowds in Salisbury
Well I’m not there and you’re not there, so who are all these other people that support the PM?
Me neither. TSE finally falling for her charms?
The poll I took part in I disapproved of Mrs May's handling of the event.
She hasn’t gone far enough in her actions.
She should be taking financial action against Putin’s cronies.
Why is it I can’t deposit 5k cash in the bank without being interrogated by the bank staff about where it came from but Ruskies can deposit billions in the UK no questions asked.
They can’t
See that story in yesterday’s Times about Roman Abramovich.
He managed it.
Due diligence by the bank would have asked the right questions.
You made your money by buying a state asset at well below market estimates in a process you admit was rigged.
I’ve turned down work from Roman before because I wasn’t comfortable with (a) the source of his wealth and (b) the identity of the unnamed minority shareholder in Millhouse Capital who our spies* informed us had the initials VP. UBS and Citi were happy to take the work and the fee. Shame on them.
How long do things like tanks remain effective? I know guns can remain (both individually and the design) of use for a very long time.
Chainmail (or mail, to be historically accurate) was in use for thousands of years. Although I suspect spears and bows probably hold the record for military longevity.
Age is not necessarily a problem of course. Just look at the B52.
Not sure that applies to tanks. The battle of 73 Easting in the first Gulf war involved the British and American forces destroying 160 Iraqi tanks and 180 troop carriers for the loss of 1 damaged vehicle on the part of the Americans and 1 person killed. It was a turkey shoot and most of the Iraqis did the only sensible thing which was get out of their vehicles and skedaddle.
Older tanks with older armour are a slightly complicated way of committing suicide against more modern equipment.
That 31% polling figure is both reassuring and disturbing. Reassuring because there is a big majority against Corbyn and 31% is smaller than current Labour support. It is disturbing that so many don't see him for what he is or are prepared to live with it due to their hatred of the Tories, tribalism or niave idealism. I'm desperate for the more sensible elements in Labour to assertthemselves. I have actually considered rejoining to oppose Corbyn and McDonell but I can't campaign or vote for them whilst the current leadership is in place. I might have to actually vote Tory as things stand. The Labour leadership and shadow cabinet are beyond the democratic pale. Whay can't more see that?
Because many of the 31% regard the Conservative government's policies as evil, unhinged or both.
It is of course possible to regard both main parties as utterly unfit for government (I'm in that group) but in practice many will pick a side based on their view of the other side.
Mr. Meeks, you're aware that people change their political opinions over time? Not only that, the political situation itself will change. The EU in 30 years will not be the EU of today.
A large divide now does not mean there will be a large divide forever. Perhaps most importantly, the poll has nothing to do with the EU.
I agree with your last sentence. Now, explain to me why a majority of 18-34 year olds would favour Jeremy Corbyn over Theresa May on this question.
I have to say I am hearing lot more loud jet activity around Lincolnshire the last few days compared to normal. This afternoon it has been pretty much constant.
Gavin Williamson has made a right prat of himself today.Instead of acting like some pubescent Private Pike,if he really want to look hard and scary to these pesky Russians ,he should have said shut the f.ck up,in the manner of Tony Soprano.That would have Putin quacking/quakeing in his boots.
Theresa getting flowers given her and applause from the crowds in Salisbury
Well I’m not there and you’re not there, so who are all these other people that support the PM?
Me neither. TSE finally falling for her charms?
The poll I took part in I disapproved of Mrs May's handling of the event.
She hasn’t gone far enough in her actions.
She should be taking financial action against Putin’s cronies.
Why is it I can’t deposit 5k cash in the bank without being interrogated by the bank staff about where it came from but Ruskies can deposit billions in the UK no questions asked.
They can’t
See that story in yesterday’s Times about Roman Abramovich.
He managed it.
Due diligence by the bank would have asked the right questions.
You made your money by buying a state asset at well below market estimates in a process you admit was rigged.
I’ve turned down work from Roman before because I wasn’t comfortable with (a) the source of his wealth and (b) the identity of the unnamed minority shareholder in Millhouse Capital who our spies* informed us had the initials VP. UBS and Citi were happy to take the work and the fee. Shame on them.
* literally
You truly are the only Nun in the whorehouse.
Just worked at the time for a prudent and sensible firm. Stan O’Neal should rot in hell for what he did to Mother Merrill.
How long do things like tanks remain effective? I know guns can remain (both individually and the design) of use for a very long time.
Chainmail (or mail, to be historically accurate) was in use for thousands of years. Although I suspect spears and bows probably hold the record for military longevity.
Age is not necessarily a problem of course. Just look at the B52.
Not sure that applies to tanks. The battle of 73 Easting in the first Gulf war involved the British and American forces destroying 160 Iraqi tanks and 180 troop carriers for the loss of 1 damaged vehicle on the part of the Americans and 1 person killed. It was a turkey shoot and most of the Iraqis did the only sensible thing which was get out of their vehicles and skedaddle.
Older tanks with older armour are a slightly complicated way of committing suicide against more modern equipment.
The Russians have rather better anti-aircraft equipment, and a decentish airforce of their own.
And probably more tanks than we have air to ground missiles...
How long do things like tanks remain effective? I know guns can remain (both individually and the design) of use for a very long time.
Chainmail (or mail, to be historically accurate) was in use for thousands of years. Although I suspect spears and bows probably hold the record for military longevity.
Age is not necessarily a problem of course. Just look at the B52.
Not sure that applies to tanks. The battle of 73 Easting in the first Gulf war involved the British and American forces destroying 160 Iraqi tanks and 180 troop carriers for the loss of 1 damaged vehicle on the part of the Americans and 1 person killed. It was a turkey shoot and most of the Iraqis did the only sensible thing which was get out of their vehicles and skedaddle.
Older tanks with older armour are a slightly complicated way of committing suicide against more modern equipment.
The advantages the Anglo-American tanks had then was
1) They had better armour
2) They had longer firing distances
3) They had GPS which is great for desert warfare
4) They had a lot of air support, from both planes and attack helicopters.
Looking at that list provided by @TheWhiteRabbit of American forces in Germany/Europe there's an awful lot of Combat Aviation Battalions.
That 31% polling figure is both reassuring and disturbing. Reassuring because there is a big majority against Corbyn and 31% is smaller than current Labour support. It is disturbing that so many don't see him for what he is or are prepared to live with it due to their hatred of the Tories, tribalism or niave idealism. I'm desperate for the more sensible elements in Labour to assertthemselves. I have actually considered rejoining to oppose Corbyn and McDonell but I can't campaign or vote for them whilst the current leadership is in place. I might have to actually vote Tory as things stand. The Labour leadership and shadow cabinet are beyond the democratic pale. Whay can't more see that?
Because many of the 31% regard the Conservative government's policies as evil, unhinged or both.
It is of course possible to regard both main parties as utterly unfit for government (I'm in that group) but in practice many will pick a side based on their view of the other side.
But alas we may have to choose between them again and they are not equally bad. As a currently disenfranchised centre-left person with a dash of classical liberalism and a bit of dryness in economics Corbyn is by far the worst.
Although he never actually said it, Dave would today have been utterly vindicated if he'd warned that Brexit might start World War III. Looking back Dave was too sanguine about the security threat.
I'm a bit suspicious about Trump imposing sanctions on the same day as a disastrous election result. Maybe I've just read too many corbynite tweets and the tinfoil is rubbing off...
You pervert.
You don’t use tinfoil to rub yourself off, you use PVC, much easier to clean.
@Independent_ie: BREAKING: Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has revealed he intervened on behalf of US President Donald Trump over a proposal to build a windfarm near Trump's golf course in Doonbeg, Co Clare
I'm a bit suspicious about Trump imposing sanctions on the same day as a disastrous election result. Maybe I've just read too many corbynite tweets and the tinfoil is rubbing off...
You pervert.
You don’t use tinfoil to rub yourself off, you use PVC, much easier to clean.
Although he never actually said it, Dave would today have been utterly vindicated if he'd warned that Brexit might start World War III. Looking back Dave was too sanguine about the security threat.
I think you are overplaying this somewhat. Russia carrying out assassinations overseas - even using chemical attacks, some far more serious than this - is hardly new. Were the murders of Trotsky, or Markov, or Litvenenko linked to Brexit? Obviously not. Indeed, it seems likely this was linked to Russia's internal problems as much as anything else.
I wonder if someone like Yvette Cooper has considered a Labour leadership challenge to Corbyn - to be made right now.
It would obviously be very unlikely to succeed - but who knows - it's worth remembering Corbyn only beat Owen Smith by 62:38 - and Smith was a very poor candidate compared to someone like Cooper.
OK, that contest was before Corbyn's "success" in the 2017 GE - but still Smith getting 38% isn't a bad base - and now would surely be the best possible time to strike with this incident giving the maximum opportunity to undermine Corbyn.
Of course she would start behind but she could challenge him to TV debates etc - and we've seen many electoral upsets in recent years - if she could build some momentum then you never know what might happen.
I'm a bit suspicious about Trump imposing sanctions on the same day as a disastrous election result. Maybe I've just read too many corbynite tweets and the tinfoil is rubbing off...
You pervert.
You don’t use tinfoil to rub yourself off, you use PVC, much easier to clean.
Although he never actually said it, Dave would today have been utterly vindicated if he'd warned that Brexit might start World War III. Looking back Dave was too sanguine about the security threat.
Er.... When Russia killed Litvinenko the response from the rest of the world and particularly from the EU was terribly weak and divided. And we were happily paid up members of the EU.
Actually this time the EU and World response seems much tougher and far more credible. As we're leaving the EU?
A post which would have had bite if France and Germany had told us to stew in our own juice, but as things are is so profoundly silly that I'm hoping Mr Glenn's account has been hacked.
That 31% polling figure is both reassuring and disturbing. Reassuring because there is a big majority against Corbyn and 31% is smaller than current Labour support. It is disturbing that so many don't see him for what he is or are prepared to live with it due to their hatred of the Tories, tribalism or niave idealism. I'm desperate for the more sensible elements in Labour to assertthemselves. I have actually considered rejoining to oppose Corbyn and McDonell but I can't campaign or vote for them whilst the current leadership is in place. I might have to actually vote Tory as things stand. The Labour leadership and shadow cabinet are beyond the democratic pale. Whay can't more see that?
Because many of the 31% regard the Conservative government's policies as evil, unhinged or both.
It is of course possible to regard both main parties as utterly unfit for government (I'm in that group) but in practice many will pick a side based on their view of the other side.
But alas we may have to choose between them again and they are not equally bad. As a currently disenfranchised centre-left person with a dash of classical liberalism and a bit of dryness in economics Corbyn is by far the worst.
I'd say they're equally bad at present. If Labour replace Jeremy Corbyn with someone who can be trusted on national security they'll get my vote. I cannot envisage voting Conservative at any point in the foreseeable future no matter how they evolve from here.
It's Corbyn's approach to foreign policy over a period of 40 years that make him entirely unsuitable to be Prime Minister. Nothing he and Seamas Milne have said and done since the Salisbury attack should surprise anyone. Both have been speaking from the heart.
Most voters get this, which is why Corbyn will never lead Labour to victory in a general election. That is good news; but also utterly depressing, because it leaves this miserable, incompetent government in power for the foreseeable future.
Although he never actually said it, Dave would today have been utterly vindicated if he'd warned that Brexit might start World War III. Looking back Dave was too sanguine about the security threat.
Er.... When Russia killed Litvinenko the response from the rest of the world and particularly from the EU was terribly weak and divided. And we were happily paid up members of the EU.
Actually this time the EU and World response seems much tougher and far more credible. As we're leaving the EU?
That's not really fair, as our initial reaction in 2006 was pitifully weak. Why should other countries have reacted in a stronger manner?
That 31% polling figure is both reassuring and disturbing. Reassuring because there is a big majority against Corbyn and 31% is smaller than current Labour support. It is disturbing that so many don't see him for what he is or are prepared to live with it due to their hatred of the Tories, tribalism or niave idealism. I'm desperate for the more sensible elements in Labour to assertthemselves. I have actually considered rejoining to oppose Corbyn and McDonell but I can't campaign or vote for them whilst the current leadership is in place. I might have to actually vote Tory as things stand. The Labour leadership and shadow cabinet are beyond the democratic pale. Whay can't more see that?
Because many of the 31% regard the Conservative government's policies as evil, unhinged or both.
It is of course possible to regard both main parties as utterly unfit for government (I'm in that group) but in practice many will pick a side based on their view of the other side.
But alas we may have to choose between them again and they are not equally bad. As a currently disenfranchised centre-left person with a dash of classical liberalism and a bit of dryness in economics Corbyn is by far the worst.
You sound like a classic Lib Dem target. But where are they? Vince is invisible on anything other than calling people xenophobes.
Gavin Williamson has made a right prat of himself today.Instead of acting like some pubescent Private Pike,if he really want to look hard and scary to these pesky Russians ,he should have said shut the f.ck up,in the manner of Tony Soprano.That would have Putin quacking/quakeing in his boots.
Williamson, Johnson, Grayling, Fox, Davis, Leadsom, McVey ... the quotient of utter mediocrities and worse in the current Cabinet is unprecedented.
That 31% polling figure is both reassuring and disturbing. Reassuring because there is a big majority against Corbyn and 31% is smaller than current Labour support. It is disturbing that so many don't see him for what he is or are prepared to live with it due to their hatred of the Tories, tribalism or niave idealism. I'm desperate for the more sensible elements in Labour to assertthemselves. I have actually considered rejoining to oppose Corbyn and McDonell but I can't campaign or vote for them whilst the current leadership is in place. I might have to actually vote Tory as things stand. The Labour leadership and shadow cabinet are beyond the democratic pale. Whay can't more see that?
Because many of the 31% regard the Conservative government's policies as evil, unhinged or both.
It is of course possible to regard both main parties as utterly unfit for government (I'm in that group) but in practice many will pick a side based on their view of the other side.
But alas we may have to choose between them again and they are not equally bad. As a currently disenfranchised centre-left person with a dash of classical liberalism and a bit of dryness in economics Corbyn is by far the worst.
I'd say they're equally bad at present. If Labour replace Jeremy Corbyn with someone who can be trusted on national security they'll get my vote. I cannot envisage voting Conservative at any point in the foreseeable future no matter how they evolve from here.
Would any Labour figure who can be trusted on national security be able to win the leadership as matters stand? I think the answer is 'no.' Clive Lewis may be able to rehabilitate himself given time but I have always got the feeling that he was a touch lightweight for the top post, Labour's slightly saner answer to Boris.
The truth is we have a bad government, but they are considerably less bad than the Opposition. Rees-Mogg and Gove are hard right neocons whom I dislike and distrust. Some of Corbyn's supporters are genuine 'cheered Indiana Jones' foes' Nazis, while others consider Brezhnev was dangerously wet.
And there as Joff so rightly pointed out, lies the problem.
How long do things like tanks remain effective? I know guns can remain (both individually and the design) of use for a very long time.
Chainmail (or mail, to be historically accurate) was in use for thousands of years. Although I suspect spears and bows probably hold the record for military longevity.
Age is not necessarily a problem of course. Just look at the B52.
Not sure that applies to tanks. The battle of 73 Easting in the first Gulf war involved the British and American forces destroying 160 Iraqi tanks and 180 troop carriers for the loss of 1 damaged vehicle on the part of the Americans and 1 person killed. It was a turkey shoot and most of the Iraqis did the only sensible thing which was get out of their vehicles and skedaddle.
Older tanks with older armour are a slightly complicated way of committing suicide against more modern equipment.
The advantages the Anglo-American tanks had then was
1) They had better armour
2) They had longer firing distances
3) They had GPS which is great for desert warfare
4) They had a lot of air support, from both planes and attack helicopters.
Looking at that list provided by @TheWhiteRabbit of American forces in Germany/Europe there's an awful lot of Combat Aviation Battalions.
I think the US equipment is on a different level to anything else on the planet and only we come close. Of course they could and probably would be overwhelmed by weight of numbers but the Russians have some decent new kit and a very long tail. I suspect they would find Poland quite a challenge.
Gavin Williamson has made a right prat of himself today.Instead of acting like some pubescent Private Pike,if he really want to look hard and scary to these pesky Russians ,he should have said shut the f.ck up,in the manner of Tony Soprano.That would have Putin quacking/quakeing in his boots.
Williamson, Johnson, Grayling, Fox, Davis, Leadsom, McVey ... the quotient of utter mediocrities and worse in the current Cabinet is unprecedented.
On seeing the list of Addington's cabinet in 1801, a peer is said to have remarked, 'Well, thank God we have at last got a ministry without one of those men of genius in it.'
(And if you want a bunch of mediocrities, try the 1904-5 Balfour cabinet.)
Gavin Williamson has made a right prat of himself today.Instead of acting like some pubescent Private Pike,if he really want to look hard and scary to these pesky Russians ,he should have said shut the f.ck up,in the manner of Tony Soprano.That would have Putin quacking/quakeing in his boots.
Williamson, Johnson, Grayling, Fox, Davis, Leadsom, McVey ... the quotient of utter mediocrities and worse in the current Cabinet is unprecedented.
Veritable titans compared to most of the opposition cabinet.
Gavin Williamson has made a right prat of himself today.Instead of acting like some pubescent Private Pike,if he really want to look hard and scary to these pesky Russians ,he should have said shut the f.ck up,in the manner of Tony Soprano.That would have Putin quacking/quakeing in his boots.
Williamson, Johnson, Grayling, Fox, Davis, Leadsom, McVey ... the quotient of utter mediocrities and worse in the current Cabinet is unprecedented.
Hardly. I expect that like most people you've forgotten Geoff Hoon, Margaret Beckett, Jacqui Smith, John Prescott, Estelle Morris, Ed Miliband, and the whole crew of other New Labour nonentities.
Overall this is not too bad a cabinet, and of those you mention Grayling's OK, DD's doing rather well, Esther McVey is likely to turn out good, although it's early days, and Gavin Williamson is certainly better than at least two of his predecessors of the Blair/Brown years (Bob Ainsworth, for heaven's sake!).
They’re not comparing like with like though, or they’re surprised that cashiers working 9-3 in a branch are mostly women whereas the 18-hour-a-day City boys are mostly, well, boys.
They’re not comparing like with like though, or they’re surprised that cashiers working 9-3 in a branch are mostly women whereas the 18-hour-a-day City boys are mostly, well, boys.
I'm looking forward to see the pay gap at Premier League clubs. Fun fact, Arsenal employ over 700 people.
I don't know why people make all this fuss about the gender pay gap, it's easy to fix. You just need to get a few of the most highly-paid chaps to self-identify as women when filling in the form. Job done.
They’re not comparing like with like though, or they’re surprised that cashiers working 9-3 in a branch are mostly women whereas the 18-hour-a-day City boys are mostly, well, boys.
I'm looking forward to see the pay gap at Premier League clubs. Fun fact, Arsenal employ over 700 people.
From personal experience if I were advising Arsenal I'd tell them to use the modal average.
They’re not comparing like with like though, or they’re surprised that cashiers working 9-3 in a branch are mostly women whereas the 18-hour-a-day City boys are mostly, well, boys.
I'm looking forward to see the pay gap at Premier League clubs. Fun fact, Arsenal employ over 700 people.
Will Arsenal have to publish given they're privately owned ?
Re that Sky poll, I think both Alastair and the Tories on here are overreading it. What matters is whether any of those respondents - young and old - are actually going to take the Russia issue into consideration when they vote. Lots of voters have opinions on matters, where those matters rank in terms who deciding who to vote for GE is a different matter.
I think 51% 18-34 year olds picked Corbyn in part because of the aftermath of Iraq tbh, rather than ‘hope over experience.’ I would agree with the 49% who picked May, however I’d never describe myself as right wing, so I don’t see felix’s point that the poll shows a ‘shift to the right.’
Gavin Williamson has made a right prat of himself today.Instead of acting like some pubescent Private Pike,if he really want to look hard and scary to these pesky Russians ,he should have said shut the f.ck up,in the manner of Tony Soprano.That would have Putin quacking/quakeing in his boots.
Williamson, Johnson, Grayling, Fox, Davis, Leadsom, McVey ... the quotient of utter mediocrities and worse in the current Cabinet is unprecedented.
On seeing the list of Addington's cabinet in 1801, a peer is said to have remarked, 'Well, thank God we have at last got a ministry without one of those men of genius in it.'
(And if you want a bunch of mediocrities, try the 1904-5 Balfour cabinet.)
They’re not comparing like with like though, or they’re surprised that cashiers working 9-3 in a branch are mostly women whereas the 18-hour-a-day City boys are mostly, well, boys.
I'm looking forward to see the pay gap at Premier League clubs. Fun fact, Arsenal employ over 700 people.
Will Arsenal have to publish given they're privately owned ?
Applies to all firms/organisations with 250 plus employees.
A post which would have had bite if France and Germany had told us to stew in our own juice, but as things are is so profoundly silly that I'm hoping Mr Glenn's account has been hacked.
No, he really does believe the rubbish he posts. It is rather quaint really.
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And as we know, they had their heads up their own arses.
You don’t use tinfoil to rub yourself off, you use PVC, much easier to clean.
So I am told.
If they were so minded, the Poles could possibly bring off a successful invasion if the Germans didn't get any outside help....
I can't imagine what it must have been like at the height of the Cold War.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a14480191/germanys-entire-submarine-fleet-is-out-of-commission/
The older tanks tend to be slower, more poorly armoured, and have less effective guns. There was some recent speculation that many of the German Leopards wold be unable to knock out the more recent Russian T90s, for instance (let alone the T14s, but fortunately few of those are yet in service), but many of Russia's tanks are older models too.
Move them to the worst football league in the country, the Scottish Premier League.
Was that this Wednesday, or next week ?
And even in Newark you could hear the afterburners of the jets taking off from the bases along the Lincolnshire edge.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/2115960/Barack-Obama-hand-gesture-sparks-row-over-terrorist-fist-jab.html
Not quite Angels at four o'clock...
Older tanks with older armour are a slightly complicated way of committing suicide against more modern equipment.
It is of course possible to regard both main parties as utterly unfit for government (I'm in that group) but in practice many will pick a side based on their view of the other side.
https://www.theredroar.com/2018/03/spreading-conspiracy-theories-blaming-israel-for-the-salisbury-attack-the-alt-left-media-are-doing-vladimir-putins-work-for-him/
https://twitter.com/Daily_Express/status/729589817173020672
And probably more tanks than we have air to ground missiles...
1) They had better armour
2) They had longer firing distances
3) They had GPS which is great for desert warfare
4) They had a lot of air support, from both planes and attack helicopters.
Looking at that list provided by @TheWhiteRabbit of American forces in Germany/Europe there's an awful lot of Combat Aviation Battalions.
Beware - Might be a self selecting voodoo poll by Sky.
Some hardcore Remainers sound like Elizabethan doctors, who know the cure is leeches before they even hear the first symptom.
It's cheap and effective at disrupting the war effort.
/sarcasm
If there's one thing I hate more than 'would of,' it's a tautology.
It would obviously be very unlikely to succeed - but who knows - it's worth remembering Corbyn only beat Owen Smith by 62:38 - and Smith was a very poor candidate compared to someone like Cooper.
OK, that contest was before Corbyn's "success" in the 2017 GE - but still Smith getting 38% isn't a bad base - and now would surely be the best possible time to strike with this incident giving the maximum opportunity to undermine Corbyn.
Of course she would start behind but she could challenge him to TV debates etc - and we've seen many electoral upsets in recent years - if she could build some momentum then you never know what might happen.
Actually this time the EU and World response seems much tougher and far more credible. As we're leaving the EU?
Not that disturbing stuff might not be happening in that neck of the woods...
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/03/15/lebanon-conflict-americans-war-217640?
Most voters get this, which is why Corbyn will never lead Labour to victory in a general election. That is good news; but also utterly depressing, because it leaves this miserable, incompetent government in power for the foreseeable future.
https://twitter.com/SarahKellyTV/status/974332335608025089
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/974340611984773121
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/974338502660886533
The truth is we have a bad government, but they are considerably less bad than the Opposition. Rees-Mogg and Gove are hard right neocons whom I dislike and distrust. Some of Corbyn's supporters are genuine 'cheered Indiana Jones' foes' Nazis, while others consider Brezhnev was dangerously wet.
And there as Joff so rightly pointed out, lies the problem.
(And if you want a bunch of mediocrities, try the 1904-5 Balfour cabinet.)
Overall this is not too bad a cabinet, and of those you mention Grayling's OK, DD's doing rather well, Esther McVey is likely to turn out good, although it's early days, and Gavin Williamson is certainly better than at least two of his predecessors of the Blair/Brown years (Bob Ainsworth, for heaven's sake!).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mayor_of_Casterbridge
I think 51% 18-34 year olds picked Corbyn in part because of the aftermath of Iraq tbh, rather than ‘hope over experience.’ I would agree with the 49% who picked May, however I’d never describe myself as right wing, so I don’t see felix’s point that the poll shows a ‘shift to the right.’