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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607
    SeanT said:

    Elliot said:

    SeanT said:

    tlg86 said:

    SeanT said:

    Elliot said:

    SeanT said:

    How about blaming the Home Secretary that changed stop and search?

    Whatever happened to her?

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/theresa-mays-stop-and-search-shake-up-is-costing-lives/
    And the community leaders who shout the loudest of Racism.
    Can anyone remind me of which PM did not overrule her?
    It's a failure by the entire Establishment, left and right, importing criminal migrant communities, failing to police them properly, feebly giving in to accusations of racism. Etc.

    Well done everyone. London is now more dangerous than New York. We are ruled by a special class of inept c*nts.
    I was under the impression most knife and gun crime in London came from within the British black community, not immigrants.

    The West is self harming.
    I don't know if there is opinion polling on this, but it's an issue that is limited to big cities - mostly London. I work in London, but I have absolutely no desire to live there.
    Northern cities are pretty bad, too. But London has seen a particular surge in violence.



    Thanks to Freedom of Movement, a lot of Somalis came from hostile Holland, heading over to the UK and London, which they found more "accommodating of Islam".
    You will be pleased to know Somali asylum claims is down to a few hundred each year:

    https://www.economist.com/news/britain/21583710-somalis-fare-much-worse-other-immigrants-what-holds-them-back-road-long

    (Though I must admit I was surprised that there are about 100k Somalis in the UK - more than Indian Muslims apparently.)
    As I say, many came from Holland and elsewhere in the EU, under Free Movement, and there was nowt we could do

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/1479533/Frustrated-Somalis-flee-Holland-for-the-freedom-of-Britain.html

    A calamity. Reason for Brexit number 5718
    It's one of the reasons I voted leave. As soon as these Syrians and other "refugees" get citizenship on Germany they will head to the UK for a life of easy benefits a d under the table cash work/crime. It's already happened with the Somalis from the Netherlands.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,287
    edited April 2018
    Times front page headline says Labour has lost 17,000 members "amid antisemitism anger"

    Can't read detail.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    MikeL said:

    Times front page headline says Labour has lost 17,000 members "amid antisemitism anger"

    Can't read detail.

    Not a problem though, nothing to see, move on
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,387

    From Guido's expose:

    ' “We used the data that 3.2 million people consented to give away after signing up for the Guardian app,” Kale explains, “and we targeted our propaganda to the three key Remain indicators: people who liked Bob Geldof, soy milk and the CBI on Facebook”. '

    https://order-order.com/2018/04/01/remain-campaign-whistleblower-reveals-they-cheated-and-still-lost/#disqus_thread

    It's satire, isn't it??????
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    ElliotElliot Posts: 1,516
    MaxPB said:

    SeanT said:

    Elliot said:

    SeanT said:

    tlg86 said:

    SeanT said:

    Elliot said:

    SeanT said:

    How about blaming the Home Secretary that changed stop and search?

    Whatever happened to her?

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/theresa-mays-stop-and-search-shake-up-is-costing-lives/
    And the community leaders who shout the loudest of Racism.
    Can anyone remind me of which PM did not overrule her?
    It's a failure by the entire Establishment, left and right, importing criminal migrant communities, failing to police them properly, feebly giving in to accusations of racism. Etc.

    Well done everyone. London is now more dangerous than New York. We are ruled by a special class of inept c*nts.
    I was under the impression most knife and gun crime in London came from within the British black community, not immigrants.

    The West is self harming.
    I don't know if there is opinion polling on this, but it's an issue that is limited to big cities - mostly London. I work in London, but I have absolutely no desire to live there.
    Northern cities are pretty bad, too. But London has seen a particular surge in violence.



    Thanks to Freedom of Movement, a lot of Somalis came from hostile Holland, heading over to the UK and London, which they found more "accommodating of Islam".
    You will be pleased to know Somali asylum claims is down to a few hundred each year:

    https://www.economist.com/news/britain/21583710-somalis-fare-much-worse-other-immigrants-what-holds-them-back-road-long

    (Though I must admit I was surprised that there are about 100k Somalis in the UK - more than Indian Muslims apparently.)
    As I say, many came from Holland and elsewhere in the EU, under Free Movement, and there was nowt we could do

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/1479533/Frustrated-Somalis-flee-Holland-for-the-freedom-of-Britain.html

    A calamity. Reason for Brexit number 5718
    It's one of the reasons I voted leave. As soon as these Syrians and other "refugees" get citizenship on Germany they will head to the UK for a life of easy benefits a d under the table cash work/crime. It's already happened with the Somalis from the Netherlands.
    You better hope the transition is not extended beyond 2021 then.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607

    From Guido's expose:

    ' “We used the data that 3.2 million people consented to give away after signing up for the Guardian app,” Kale explains, “and we targeted our propaganda to the three key Remain indicators: people who liked Bob Geldof, soy milk and the CBI on Facebook”. '

    https://order-order.com/2018/04/01/remain-campaign-whistleblower-reveals-they-cheated-and-still-lost/#disqus_thread

    Sure that's not an April Fool?
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    The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    edited April 2018
    MikeL said:

    Times front page headline says Labour has lost 17,000 members "amid antisemitism anger"

    Can't read detail.

    It’s been occurring from the start of the year according to the front page.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,287

    MikeL said:

    Times front page headline says Labour has lost 17,000 members "amid antisemitism anger"

    Can't read detail.

    It’s been occurring from the start of the year according to the front page.
    OK - thanks.

    Is that a NET loss of 17,000? If so, not huge but still significant in my view.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    @SeanT

    The establishment must take some of the blame.

    In Bradford we have two local pubs that get attacked every bonfire week by a very large Asian mob,what do the police do -Nothing .

    The police excuse is it may cause a full blown riot so it sounds like a couple cracked heads won't matter.

    This will lead to disorder in the future ,a future where whiteflight is happening.

    Germany

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/938824/Germany-news-duisburg-state-of-emergency-fight-riot-machetes

    Huge problems in Sweden, Holland, Germany, France, Italy, Belgium

    Germany and Sweden at least have admitted to no go zones

    Not going to end well
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,067
    MaxPB said:

    From Guido's expose:

    ' “We used the data that 3.2 million people consented to give away after signing up for the Guardian app,” Kale explains, “and we targeted our propaganda to the three key Remain indicators: people who liked Bob Geldof, soy milk and the CBI on Facebook”. '

    https://order-order.com/2018/04/01/remain-campaign-whistleblower-reveals-they-cheated-and-still-lost/#disqus_thread

    Sure that's not an April Fool?
    If so it serves me right for reading Guido.

    I've not been to his site for at least six months and it seemed to be no different to the things he usually had.

    : insert whatever emoji stands for laughing at your own mistake :
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,387
    MikeL said:

    MikeL said:

    Times front page headline says Labour has lost 17,000 members "amid antisemitism anger"

    Can't read detail.

    It’s been occurring from the start of the year according to the front page.
    OK - thanks.

    Is that a NET loss of 17,000? If so, not huge but still significant in my view.
    Well they had 552,000 members as of last June. They can afford a few more 17,000s... although if they are the most active members then it is a much bigger loss.
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    The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    MikeL said:

    MikeL said:

    Times front page headline says Labour has lost 17,000 members "amid antisemitism anger"

    Can't read detail.

    It’s been occurring from the start of the year according to the front page.
    OK - thanks.

    Is that a NET loss of 17,000? If so, not huge but still significant in my view.
    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/980559774562639873

    You might be able to zoom in here. They think it’s wiped out some of gains in membership since June last year where after the election it went up to 570,000 members from 530,000 before the GE. They’ve lost 3 pc of the paying membership as well according to the front page.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,287
    Thanks for replies - I think the significance is not the absolute size of the reduction but the fact that it suggests a change in momentum (no pun intended!).

    It also suggests that it's highly likely there has been at least some impact on public opinion across the population as a whole.
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    The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    MikeL said:

    Thanks for replies - I think the significance is not the absolute size of the reduction but the fact that it suggests a change in momentum (no pun intended!).

    It also suggests that it's highly likely there has been at least some impact on public opinion across the population as a whole.

    Re the last paragraph: members you’d expect to follow/care about politics more than your average member of the public. We’ve only had YouGov, so more polls will probably give us more clear indication of whether it’s made a dent in Labour’s coalition.
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,202

    MikeL said:

    MikeL said:

    Times front page headline says Labour has lost 17,000 members "amid antisemitism anger"

    Can't read detail.

    It’s been occurring from the start of the year according to the front page.
    OK - thanks.

    Is that a NET loss of 17,000? If so, not huge but still significant in my view.
    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/980559774562639873

    You might be able to zoom in here. They think it’s wiped out some of gains in membership since June last year where after the election it went up to 570,000 members from 530,000 before the GE. They’ve lost 3 pc of the paying membership as well according to the front page.
    The story about the police is even more significant. But they still can’t get it right, seemingly. It’s not a question of believing or not believing victims. You take all allegations seriously and investigate them thoroughly. Only once you have done the investigation can you really say whether or not you believe the victim. Assessing the credibility of the person making the allegations is a part of the investigative process but by no means the most important part. But the critical factor is not the police’s belief or disbelief but the strength and thoroughness of their investigation.
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,387
    edited April 2018
    Theresa May is stepping up plans to tackle the Irish border question in Brexit talks through an audacious customs scheme once described as “magical thinking” in Brussels.

    The scheme, which will be discussed with EU officials this month, would see the UK act as the external frontier for the EU, collecting tariffs and carrying out other checks on imports, but it could take many years to introduce.

    British officials claim that in preliminary trade talks in Brussels last week the idea was no longer being written off as “magical thinking”, the term used by EU officials when it was originally mooted last year.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d7edc34e-3428-11e8-ae84-494103e73f7f

    Step by step, inch by inch...
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    ElliotElliot Posts: 1,516
    SeanT said:

    Elliot said:

    SeanT said:

    Elliot said:

    SeanT said:

    tlg86 said:

    SeanT said:

    Elliot said:

    SeanT said:

    How about blaming the Home Secretary that changed stop and search?

    Whatever happened to her?

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/theresa-mays-stop-and-search-shake-up-is-costing-lives/
    And the community leaders who shout the loudest of Racism.
    Can anyone remind me of which PM did not overrule her?
    It's a failu
    Well done everyone. London is now more dangerous than New York. We are ruled by a special class of inept c*nts.
    I was under the impression most knife and gun crime in London came from within the British black community, not immigrants.

    The West is self harming.
    I don't know if there is oe from hostile Holland, heading over to the UK and London, which they found more "accommodating of Islam".
    You will be pleased to know Somali asylum claims is down to a few hundred each year:

    https://www.economist.com/news/britain/21583710-somalis-fare-much-worse-other-immigrants-what-holds-them-back-road-long

    (Though I must admit I was surprised that there are about 100k Somalis in the UK - more than Indian Muslims apparently.)
    As I say, m number 5718
    Still, immigrants, on the whole, are a lot less likely to commit crime than white British people. My parents are Iranian immigrants and British Iranians barely commit any crime at all. I suspect that is because we are mainly highly educated people from urban backgrounds.
    .
    Bizarre warping of stats. Blacks are more likely to commit crime than any other ethnic group. Roma are close behind. Pakistani Muslims are a growing problem (grooming aside) Whites - being the vast majority - are understandably in the middle. Highly educated Iranians, Japanese, French, Germans, barely commit crime at all.

    And it's got almost fuck all to do with poverty in the end. Chinese people come from a poor country. They don't go round knifing people or chucking acid in faces.

    It's culture and genes.
    You think people are genetically predisposed to commit crime? Exactly what point going east from Tehran does the murder gene kick in? The Lut Desert perhaps?

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    ElliotElliot Posts: 1,516
    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    The Leftovers.
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    RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 3,223
    Sometimes I try to be optimistic about open borders, but then along comes SeanT with his wine-fuelled facts.

    @tlg86 - I share your attitude, but I’m sure people who’ve left the parts of London with these issues felt the same as us at one time.

    Our elite is still in denial.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Elliot said:

    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    The Leftovers.
    Not new, but Sons of Anarchy
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    TheJezziahTheJezziah Posts: 3,840
    I don't want to talk the figures down, because it does suit my natural bias, but those not renewing a direct debit, assuming they are paying yearly, could be those members simply drifting away because they didn't want Corbyn. It would be interesting to see what percentage of the leavers are Smith voters for example.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607
    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    I watched Flint Town. It's interesting, but fairly depressing.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,105
    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Mindhunter? Loved it.....
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    RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 3,223
    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Watch 1864.

    It’s a Danish series about what happened when Denmark’s politicians thought it was a good idea to pick a fight with Bismarck’s Prussia.

    War, love story, eye candy - something for everyone.
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,202
    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Fauda is meant to be good.
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    JWisemannJWisemann Posts: 1,082
    Im glad SeanT is here to remind us that the real lunatic bigots and racists are of course supporters of the Tory party, much though their various feral propaganda organs try to vainly and ludicrously persuade us otherwise. Cheers, Sean x
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    MaxPB said:

    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    I watched Flint Town. It's interesting, but fairly depressing.
    i'm watching that - certainly takes you beneath the surface of the American dream
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    brendan16brendan16 Posts: 2,315
    edited April 2018
    RoyalBlue said:

    Sometimes I try to be optimistic about open borders, but then along comes SeanT with his wine-fuelled facts.

    @tlg86 - I share your attitude, but I’m sure people who’ve left the parts of London with these issues felt the same as us at one time.

    Our elite is still in denial.

    Our elite isn't affected - until we get an acid attack in Sonning it's just a problem affecting poorer areas and poorer people in east London.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
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    RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 3,223
    SeanT said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Watch 1864.

    It’s a Danish series about what happened when Denmark’s politicians thought it was a good idea to pick a fight with Bismarck’s Prussia.

    War, love story, eye candy - something for everyone.
    Ooh that sounds cool. I've heard others say it's good, too. Where? Netflix? Prime?
    Amazon Prime. Well worth £4.99 :wink:
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    MJWMJW Posts: 1,347
    maaarsh said:

    HYUFD said:

    Sun poll on the most liked politicians

    Top 5

    1 Angela Rayner
    =Dennis Skinner
    3 Caroline Lucas
    4 Ken Clarke
    5 Dan Jarvis

    The most disliked politicians

    Top 5

    1 Damian Hinds
    2 Jeremy Hunt
    3 Michael Gove
    4 George Galloway
    5 Matthew Hancock

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/5927274/britains-favourite-royal-most-disliked-pop-star-and-top-celeb-revealed-in-new-poll/

    Do we really live in a world where anyone likes Angela Rayner, and anyone has heard of Damian Hinds?

    Presumably the Sun just found 1000 respondents from the NUT...
    Also ex employment at the DWP - the role that's made everyone who's done it hugely unpopular as it's meant fronting up for the string of disasters caused by IDS.

    Despite campaigning against her in Wirral in 2015 - feel some sympathy for McVey as she was always sent out to defend the indefensible when IDS was too stupid and cowardly too.
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    RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 3,223
    SeanT said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    SeanT said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Watch 1864.

    It’s a Danish series about what happened when Denmark’s politicians thought it was a good idea to pick a fight with Bismarck’s Prussia.

    War, love story, eye candy - something for everyone.
    Ooh that sounds cool. I've heard others say it's good, too. Where? Netflix? Prime?
    Amazon Prime. Well worth £4.99 :wink:
    I've got prime. I'm sold!
    Excellent. I’ve still got the last episode to go; I hope you enjoy!
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    JWisemannJWisemann Posts: 1,082
    edited April 2018
    I have just had an awful realisation - if the absolute bilge vis-a-vis facebook groups gracing the front cover of Uncle Rupe’s vanity publishing project has any traction, that means posting on here could leave me open to being accused of endorsing the absolutely disgusting opinions posted here day-in day-out. Chilling thought.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,850
    Just found out who the alleged wife beating MP is best not say though methinks
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607
    edited April 2018
    SeanT said:

    MaxPB said:

    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    I watched Flint Town. It's interesting, but fairly depressing.
    I've heard more enthusiastic recommendations!
    Highly recommended, just a bit depressing at the end. You really want them to succeed at changing and you hope they can, but the reality of corrupt, thieving politicians kicks in.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,962
    JWisemann said:

    I have just had an awful realisation - if the absolute bilge vis-a-vis facebook groups gracing the front cover of Uncle Rupe’s vanity publishing project has any traction, that means posting on here could leave me open to being accused of endorsing the absolutely disgusting opinions posted here day-in day-out. Chilling thought.

    I agree. How people support AV over FPTP is beyond me.
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    The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    JWisemann said:

    I have just had an awful realisation - if the absolute bilge vis-a-vis facebook groups gracing the front cover of Uncle Rupe’s vanity publishing project has any traction, that means posting on here could leave me open to being accused of endorsing the absolutely disgusting opinions posted here day-in day-out. Chilling thought,

    Recently Anazina, The Jezziah and Elliot have joined, so that’s diversified the range of views here a bit more.
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    JWisemannJWisemann Posts: 1,082
    No, I’m just joking. The whole story is utter shitehouse, and Im happy to rub shoulders with the purveyors of ‘interesting’ opinions on here, it’s all part of the rich tapestry of life. Just pointing out the desperate insanity of the guff coming out of the Tory Pravda set at the mo.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607
    RobD said:

    JWisemann said:

    I have just had an awful realisation - if the absolute bilge vis-a-vis facebook groups gracing the front cover of Uncle Rupe’s vanity publishing project has any traction, that means posting on here could leave me open to being accused of endorsing the absolutely disgusting opinions posted here day-in day-out. Chilling thought.

    I agree. How people support AV over FPTP is beyond me.
    Or claim that The Last Jedi is the best Star Wars movie, when its easily as bad as attack of the clones.
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    oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,831

    Just found out who the alleged wife beating MP is best not say though methinks

    I can understand your reluctance - but it is dreadfully like teasing to talk about it like that!
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    Just found out who the alleged wife beating MP is best not say though methinks

    Not unless you can link to a proper news web site
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    TheJezziahTheJezziah Posts: 3,840
    I enjoy the variety of views here, though I accept no personal responsibility for anything posted. Most of all the nonsense that appears under my name ;)
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,269
    MaxPB said:

    RobD said:

    JWisemann said:

    I have just had an awful realisation - if the absolute bilge vis-a-vis facebook groups gracing the front cover of Uncle Rupe’s vanity publishing project has any traction, that means posting on here could leave me open to being accused of endorsing the absolutely disgusting opinions posted here day-in day-out. Chilling thought.

    I agree. How people support AV over FPTP is beyond me.
    Or claim that The Last Jedi is the best Star Wars movie, when its easily as bad as attack of the clones.
    No. Attack of the Clones is the worst Star Wars movie.
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    The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830

    I enjoy the variety of views here, though I accept no personal responsibility for anything posted. Most of all the nonsense that appears under my name ;)

    I enjoy your posts. This place is very Corbyn-sceptic, myself included in that so it’s always nice to have a bit of a balance and to challenge the stereotype of Corbynistas.
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    NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,331
    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    The Man in the High Castle might appeal, if you've not seen it - avaIlable on Amazon Prime and no doubt as a box set. The Axis won the war and each occupies part of America, with some wild neutral lands in between. The Japanese are desperately worried that the Germans are poised to move to take the whole country. The ordinary populaion shifts uneasily between collaboraiton and resistance, and there's a Matrix-like underlying SF element of alternate timelines. Clever, well-acted, engrossing.
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    OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    SeanT said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    SeanT said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Watch 1864.

    It’s a Danish series about what happened when Denmark’s politicians thought it was a good idea to pick a fight with Bismarck’s Prussia.

    War, love story, eye candy - something for everyone.
    Ooh that sounds cool. I've heard others say it's good, too. Where? Netflix? Prime?
    Amazon Prime. Well worth £4.99 :wink:
    I've got prime. I'm sold!
    Oh yes, 1864 was good. I've recently been enjoying Irish comedy - Derry Girls on C4 and The Young Offenders (film) on Netflix. I think the TV series of The Young Offenders might still be viewable on iPlayer or RTÉ player.
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    TheJezziahTheJezziah Posts: 3,840
    edited April 2018
    Thank you, I try to not to be too pro Corbyn but I realised the balancing act wasn't going to work so I at least try to be accurate, mostly.

    Edit: I want to second Nick's suggestion of Man in the High Castle, really high quality and one you want to keep watching.
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487

    JWisemann said:

    I have just had an awful realisation - if the absolute bilge vis-a-vis facebook groups gracing the front cover of Uncle Rupe’s vanity publishing project has any traction, that means posting on here could leave me open to being accused of endorsing the absolutely disgusting opinions posted here day-in day-out. Chilling thought,

    Recently Anazina, The Jezziah and Elliot have joined, so that’s diversified the range of views here a bit more.
    I’ve always assumed that most posts on here are elaborate spoofs, or the product of overactive rebuttal units from right wing eurosceptic interests.
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    The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Anazina said:

    JWisemann said:

    I have just had an awful realisation - if the absolute bilge vis-a-vis facebook groups gracing the front cover of Uncle Rupe’s vanity publishing project has any traction, that means posting on here could leave me open to being accused of endorsing the absolutely disgusting opinions posted here day-in day-out. Chilling thought,

    Recently Anazina, The Jezziah and Elliot have joined, so that’s diversified the range of views here a bit more.
    I’ve always assumed that most posts on here are elaborate spoofs, or the product of overactive rebuttal units from right wing eurosceptic interests.
    LOL :lol: there some great contributions on here from both the left and right, but I agree that quite a few posts on here do read as you describe it!
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    Thank you, I try to not to be too pro Corbyn but I realised the balancing act wasn't going to work so I at least try to be accurate, mostly.

    Edit: I want to second Nick's suggestion of Man in the High Castle, really high quality and one you want to keep watching.

    I enjoyed series one, gave up on the second
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,960
    RobD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Awesome Observer ‘correction’ buried on page whatever, basically saying that their front page splash on Vote Leave and Cambridge Analytica last week was a load of...

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/31/for-the-record-observer-corrections

    In two news articles last week (“Revealed: the ties that bound Canadian data firm to Leave campaign in referendum” and “Brexit insider claims Vote Leave team ‘may have broken law’”), we are happy to clarify that we did not intend to suggest that AggregateIQ is a direct part and/or the Canadian branch of Cambridge Analytica, or that it has been involved in the exploitation of Facebook data, or otherwise been involved in any of the alleged wrongdoing made against Cambridge Analytica. Further, we did not intend to suggest that AIQ secretly and unethically co-ordinated with Cambridge Analytica on the EU referendum. We are happy to make clear that AggregateIQ is and has always been 100% Canadian owned and operated.

    And, as Dominic Cummings pointed out last week in his blog, the Guardian Facebook App (yes, there’s a Guardian Facebook App) has a long list of Ts and Cs saying that the Guardian will harvest and sell your data and all your friends’ data. The Guardian also host digital marketing courses where they train businesses on the best way to target social media advertising!

    https://dominiccummings.com/2018/03/28/on-the-referendum-24d-walter-mitty-cambridge-analytica-facebook-and-the-guardian-observer/

    What did you expect from the Guardian? This is the newspaper that goes on and on about tax avoidance, yet used the Cayman Islands to avoid tax. You couldn't make it up.
    I thought they avoided tax by not making a profit.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited April 2018
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,734
    edited April 2018
    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    I am this close to recommending "The Expanse", but you probably wouldn't like it. Similarly "Altered Carbon". The recommendations below about "The Man In The High Castle" below are correct, and it is further graced by the burny cheekbones of Rufus Sewell.

    But since you probably only go for normal people stuff, I can recommend the "American Crime Stories" (series 1: The People v. O. J. Simpson, series 2: The Assassination of Gianni Versace).

    Or you could just go straight to "The Bridge", as series 1-3 are on iPlayer

    Or, casting wider afield, the last episode of Mash - "Goodbye, Farewell, Amen" (1983) - is on YouTube, as is "Path To War" (2002), a bloody good drama doc about LBJ and Vietnam.

    You can also get the 1979 BBC "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy" from YouTube, but you'll have to pay.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Expanse_(TV_series)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altered_Carbon_(TV_series)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Crime_Story
    h ttps://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b09trdxr

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridge_(2011_TV_series)
    h ttps://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b03bnc34

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodbye,_Farewell_and_Amen:
    h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-3qeBn2bio

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_Tailor_Soldier_Spy_(miniseries)
    h ttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=EL4eYxtqSl4P8ViGkhnfJyVQ



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    TheJezziahTheJezziah Posts: 3,840
    I like the Expanse, so I've put Altered Carbon on my 'to watch' list.

    @Floater

    I can possibly see why but I was pretty hooked at that point.
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,734
    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:

    What did you expect from the Guardian? This is the newspaper that goes on and on about tax avoidance, yet used the Cayman Islands to avoid tax. You couldn't make it up.

    I thought they avoided tax by not making a profit.
    You don't understand. The Scott Trust is other people's money.As such, it is infinitely large and can be spent willy-nilly.

    That, in a nutshell, was Alan Rusbridger's business plan.

    As this is Britain, such ludicrously irresponsible financial management was not punished by impalement but was instead rewarded by being appointed Chair of the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism and Principal of Lady Margaret Hall.

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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,960
    Elliot said:

    MaxPB said:

    It's one of the reasons I voted leave. As soon as these Syrians and other "refugees" get citizenship on Germany they will head to the UK for a life of easy benefits a d under the table cash work/crime. It's already happened with the Somalis from the Netherlands.

    You better hope the transition is not extended beyond 2021 then.
    German citizenship is pretty hard to get (much harder than in the UK), so I doubt any of the Syrians will be getting citizenship until 2023 at the earliest (8 years from 2015). And even if the transition period was lengthened until 2025 (which it won't be), post genuine transition period there will clearly be no requirement for the UK to offer benefits to anyone who's not a citizen.

    So, it's pretty fanciful/paranoid to think - on any reasonable timeline of us leaving the EU - that there will be any Syrians with German citizenship arriving in the UK to take long-term advantage of the UK's benefits system.

    And to address Max's earlier point about illegal work: this is something that we in the UK are just spectacularly shit at addressing. The Albanians in your local carwash aren't working legally. We could arrest them and deport them (and jail the person who employed them). It's just that we don't.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,056
    rcs1000 said:

    So, it's pretty fanciful/paranoid to think - on any reasonable timeline of us leaving the EU - that there will be any Syrians with German citizenship arriving in the UK to take long-term advantage of the UK's benefits system.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/25/brexit-is-only-way-to-control-immigration-campaigners-claim

    Owen Paterson during the referendum campaign: "This is a genuine and legitimate concern, for Germany’s migration policy is now so out of control that in February of this year, federal ministries were estimating that Angela Merkel’s asylum amnesty would have attracted 3.6 million people by 2020. Many of these will, after five years, be able to acquire EU passports and move across Europe and into the UK.”
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,960

    rcs1000 said:

    So, it's pretty fanciful/paranoid to think - on any reasonable timeline of us leaving the EU - that there will be any Syrians with German citizenship arriving in the UK to take long-term advantage of the UK's benefits system.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/25/brexit-is-only-way-to-control-immigration-campaigners-claim

    Owen Paterson during the referendum campaign: "This is a genuine and legitimate concern, for Germany’s migration policy is now so out of control that in February of this year, federal ministries were estimating that Angela Merkel’s asylum amnesty would have attracted 3.6 million people by 2020. Many of these will, after five years, be able to acquire EU passports and move across Europe and into the UK.”
    It's very difficult to get a German passport in less than eight years. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nationality_law
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,883
    Morning, so we all managed to avoid the Chinese space station, which came down eventually in the South Pacific. And England’s cricketers have run up a good score to be favourites to beat the Kiwis. A good morning.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Is Mike applying for the job?
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    On murder rates in New York and London: the story is much more of a very sharp drop in New York than a rise in London. London’s rate, while certainly rising, is currently suggesting a return to the rate in the early 2000s. New York in that period was recording three times as many murders and the current fall is unprecedented.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,105
    edited April 2018

    On murder rates in New York and London: the story is much more of a very sharp drop in New York than a rise in London. London’s rate, while certainly rising, is currently suggesting a return to the rate in the early 2000s. New York in that period was recording three times as many murders and the current fall is unprecedented.

    So Khan has brought us back to the murder rate levels of Livingstone, after the significant decline under Johnson. Coincidence of statistics, of course.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    On murder rates in New York and London: the story is much more of a very sharp drop in New York than a rise in London. London’s rate, while certainly rising, is currently suggesting a return to the rate in the early 2000s. New York in that period was recording three times as many murders and the current fall is unprecedented.

    So Khan has brought us back to the murder rate levels of Livingstone, after the significant decline under Johnson. Coincidence of statistics, of course.
    It was particularly good in the early years of this decade.

    No doubt it was all that mass immigration that introduced civilising influences.

    Or the birth rates in key years might be worth looking at. Troublemakers tend to get into trouble in particular age bands. If there were fewer in those age bands in given years, you would expect crime to go down.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,960

    On murder rates in New York and London: the story is much more of a very sharp drop in New York than a rise in London. London’s rate, while certainly rising, is currently suggesting a return to the rate in the early 2000s. New York in that period was recording three times as many murders and the current fall is unprecedented.

    So Khan has brought us back to the murder rate levels of Livingstone, after the significant decline under Johnson. Coincidence of statistics, of course.
    It was particularly good in the early years of this decade.

    No doubt it was all that mass immigration that introduced civilising influences.

    Or the birth rates in key years might be worth looking at. Troublemakers tend to get into trouble in particular age bands. If there were fewer in those age bands in given years, you would expect crime to go down.
    If you want to play silly buggers with statistics, the second derivative (i.e. the rate of change of immigration) correlates with the actual murder rate in London.

    However, as one is a London number, and the other a UK one; as the number of data points is small: and as we are comparing a second derivative with an absolute number, I think it's reasonable to argue that it is just statistical noise.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    Good morning, everyone.

    Hard to disagree with Mr. Smithson's reading of the situation. Pretty feeble attempt at an explanation for the Leader of the Opposition, the man who aspires to be PM, getting rid of his Facebook account because he doesn't want the media or electorate to see what he thinks (about murals, for example) or whom he considers his friends to be.

    In other news, the DPP is stepping down, it seems: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43614793
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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 31,974
    Sandpit said:

    Morning, so we all managed to avoid the Chinese space station, which came down eventually in the South Pacific. And England’s cricketers have run up a good score to be favourites to beat the Kiwis. A good morning.

    Not sure about the second sentence. Not at all. Nor the third; grey and drizzling here.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,917

    Sandpit said:

    Morning, so we all managed to avoid the Chinese space station, which came down eventually in the South Pacific. And England’s cricketers have run up a good score to be favourites to beat the Kiwis. A good morning.

    Not sure about the second sentence. Not at all. Nor the third; grey and drizzling here.
    Looks like Christmas day out here. As per Bing Crosby, absolutely tonnes of snow
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    King Cole, it's snowing here. Has been for at least an hour.
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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 31,974

    King Cole, it's snowing here. Has been for at least an hour.

    Which part of Yorkshire’s ‘here', Mr D? Granddaughter One has to get back to work in Beverely. Work’s tomorrow, of course, but she’s planning to drive up today from Essex. Works in Beverley, has a flat in Hull.
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    edited April 2018

    Is Mike applying for the job?

    Back in the early 1990s LAB was looking for a new PR Chief and I was a candidate. Peter Mandelson got the job. I wasn't helped by not being a party member although it was said that this was not a requirement
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382

    I enjoy the variety of views here, though I accept no personal responsibility for anything posted. Most of all the nonsense that appears under my name ;)

    I enjoy your posts. This place is very Corbyn-sceptic, myself included in that so it’s always nice to have a bit of a balance and to challenge the stereotype of Corbynistas.
    Seconded.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    King Cole, near Morley (a few miles outside Leeds).
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607

    On murder rates in New York and London: the story is much more of a very sharp drop in New York than a rise in London. London’s rate, while certainly rising, is currently suggesting a return to the rate in the early 2000s. New York in that period was recording three times as many murders and the current fall is unprecedented.

    So Khan has brought us back to the murder rate levels of Livingstone, after the significant decline under Johnson. Coincidence of statistics, of course.
    It was particularly good in the early years of this decade.

    No doubt it was all that mass immigration that introduced civilising influences.

    Or the birth rates in key years might be worth looking at. Troublemakers tend to get into trouble in particular age bands. If there were fewer in those age bands in given years, you would expect crime to go down.
    Removing 4* petrol from forecourts probably had the biggest effect on the crime and murder rate from the 90s to early 00s.

    The recent rise is probably a mix of the police becoming too lax, an increase in gang violence and under resourcing of foot patrols.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607

    rcs1000 said:

    So, it's pretty fanciful/paranoid to think - on any reasonable timeline of us leaving the EU - that there will be any Syrians with German citizenship arriving in the UK to take long-term advantage of the UK's benefits system.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/25/brexit-is-only-way-to-control-immigration-campaigners-claim

    Owen Paterson during the referendum campaign: "This is a genuine and legitimate concern, for Germany’s migration policy is now so out of control that in February of this year, federal ministries were estimating that Angela Merkel’s asylum amnesty would have attracted 3.6 million people by 2020. Many of these will, after five years, be able to acquire EU passports and move across Europe and into the UK.”
    With a remain vote or would have been a legitimate concern regardless of the length it takes to acquire a German passport. It would be a literal repeat of the Somalis coming here from the Netherlands as soon as they were able to.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,883
    edited April 2018

    King Cole, it's snowing here. Has been for at least an hour.

    Definitely no snow here, a cool 27°C this morning. :D
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    SeanT said:

    Elliot said:

    SeanT said:

    Elliot said:

    SeanT said:

    tlg86 said:

    SeanT said:

    Elliot said:

    SeanT said:

    How about blaming the Home Secretary that changed stop and search?

    Whatever happened to her?

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/theresa-mays-stop-and-search-shake-up-is-costing-lives/
    And the community leaders who shout the loudest of Racism.
    Can anyone remind me of which PM did not overrule her?
    It's a failu
    Well done everyone. London is now more dangerous than New York. We are ruled by a special class of inept c*nts.
    I was under the impression most knife and gun crime in London came from within the British black community, not immigrants.

    The West is self harming.
    I don't know if there is oe from hostile Holland, heading over to the UK and London, which they found more "accommodating of Islam".
    You will be pleased to know Somali asylum claims is down to a few hundred each year:

    https://www.economist.com/news/britain/21583710-somalis-fare-much-worse-other-immigrants-what-holds-them-back-road-long

    (Though I must admit I was surprised that there are about 100k Somalis in the UK - more than Indian Muslims apparently.)
    As I say, m number 5718
    Still, immigrants, on the whole, are a lot less likely to commit crime than white British people. My parents are Iranian immigrants and British Iranians barely commit any crime at all. I suspect that is because we are mainly highly educated people from urban backgrounds.
    Bizarre warping of stats. Blacks are more likely to commit crime than any other ethnic group. Roma are close behind. Pakistani Muslims are a growing problem (grooming aside) Whites - being the vast majority - are understandably in the middle. Highly educated Iranians, Japanese, French, Germans, barely commit crime at all.

    And it's got almost fuck all to do with poverty in the end. Chinese people come from a poor country. They don't go round knifing people or chucking acid in faces.

    It's culture and genes.
    I'm not sure it's "culture" so much as the brutalising nature of growing up in a warzone (and learning that violence gets you what you want).

    Of course that doesn't excuse it!
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,045
    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Babylon Berlin
    Ray Donovan
    The Night Of

    If you like gritty westerns, Godless worth a look.
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    I've rather enjoyed The Sinner (but my wife finds it slow)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sinner_(TV_series)
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    Mr. Sandpit, I'm not a fan of heat. I'd probably go mad living in a desert (although dry heat's a lot easier to handle than the humid variety).
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Awesome Observer ‘correction’ buried on page whatever, basically saying that their front page splash on Vote Leave and Cambridge Analytica last week was a load of...

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/31/for-the-record-observer-corrections

    In two news articles last week (“Revealed: the ties that bound Canadian data firm to Leave campaign in referendum” and “Brexit insider claims Vote Leave team ‘may have broken law’”), we are happy to clarify that we did not intend to suggest that AggregateIQ is a direct part and/or the Canadian branch of Cambridge Analytica, or that it has been involved in the exploitation of Facebook data, or otherwise been involved in any of the alleged wrongdoing made against Cambridge Analytica. Further, we did not intend to suggest that AIQ secretly and unethically co-ordinated with Cambridge Analytica on the EU referendum. We are happy to make clear that AggregateIQ is and has always been 100% Canadian owned and operated.

    And, as Dominic Cummings pointed out last week in his blog, the Guardian Facebook App (yes, there’s a Guardian Facebook App) has a long list of Ts and Cs saying that the Guardian will harvest and sell your data and all your friends’ data. The Guardian also host digital marketing courses where they train businesses on the best way to target social media advertising!

    https://dominiccummings.com/2018/03/28/on-the-referendum-24d-walter-mitty-cambridge-analytica-facebook-and-the-guardian-observer/

    What did you expect from the Guardian? This is the newspaper that goes on and on about tax avoidance, yet used the Cayman Islands to avoid tax. You couldn't make it up.
    I thought they avoided tax by not making a profit.
    The Autotrader structure - while standard for PE and driven by Apax not the Guardian - avoided capital gains tax on the sale of the Guardian's minority stake. They are, quite simply, hypocrites.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,942
    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Billions (series 1 and 2, 3 started last week). Think it is all on NOWTV?
    The Looming Tower - Amazon Prime
    Manhunt: Unabomber - Netflix
    The Assassination of Gianni Versace - Iplayer

    Interestingly, the last three are dramatised versions of real life events....
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,235
    Mortimer said:

    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Billions (series 1 and 2, 3 started last week). Think it is all on NOWTV?
    The Looming Tower - Amazon Prime
    Manhunt: Unabomber - Netflix
    The Assassination of Gianni Versace - Iplayer

    Interestingly, the last three are dramatised versions of real life events....
    I gave up on Billions after about 3 episodes. Self indulgent twaddle.
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    daodaodaodao Posts: 821
    SeanT said:


    What the fuck are they doing here? Do we need Somalians? They were never even in the commonwealth?

    Factual correction: there was a British protectorate in present-day northwestern Somalia from 1888-1960, occupied by the Italians from 1940-1. This territory was incorporated with ex-Italian Somaliland when Somalia became independent, but has now de facto seceded from Somalia. Most Somalis in Britain, including the long-established community in Cardiff, originate from former British Somaliland.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,883

    Mr. Sandpit, I'm not a fan of heat. I'd probably go mad living in a desert (although dry heat's a lot easier to handle than the humid variety).

    It’s okay for another month or so, then gets horribly hot and humid for the summer until about October. Nice weather usually for the GP in Abu Dhabi in November, and of course Bahrain next weekend.
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    Rexel56Rexel56 Posts: 807
    On viewing recommendations:

    - The Looming Tower on Prime; the run up to 9/11 focussing on the bitter rivalries between the CIA and FBI

    - Halt and Catch Fire on Prime; essential for anyone around in early 80s when personal computing was first emerging, the corporate characters are spot on and seeing PCs boot up to the c:\ is so comfortingly nostalgic...
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901
    edited April 2018
    Enjoying Halt and Catch fire. Like Mad Men, but about computers in the 80s.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,942
    Rexel56 said:

    On viewing recommendations:

    - The Looming Tower on Prime; the run up to 9/11 focussing on the bitter rivalries between the CIA and FBI

    - Halt and Catch Fire on Prime; essential for anyone around in early 80s when personal computing was first emerging, the corporate characters are spot on and seeing PCs boot up to the c:\ is so comfortingly nostalgic...

    I forgot about HACF. Probably the best US TV show of the last 5 years IMHO.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,105
    daodao said:

    SeanT said:


    What the fuck are they doing here? Do we need Somalians? They were never even in the commonwealth?

    Factual correction: there was a British protectorate in present-day northwestern Somalia from 1888-1960, occupied by the Italians from 1940-1. This territory was incorporated with ex-Italian Somaliland when Somalia became independent, but has now de facto seceded from Somalia. Most Somalis in Britain, including the long-established community in Cardiff, originate from former British Somaliland.
    I have posted on pb.com from Hargeisa in said former British Somaliland. A possibly unique distinction?

    https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/hargeisa-somaliland-somalia-africa/index.html
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,942
    Jonathan said:

    Enjoying Halt and Catch fire. Like Mad Med, but about computers in the 80s.

    Indeed. Like Mad Men, and the Sopranos before it, the characters of HACF elevate it way above a genre series.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,942
    DavidL said:

    Mortimer said:

    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Billions (series 1 and 2, 3 started last week). Think it is all on NOWTV?
    The Looming Tower - Amazon Prime
    Manhunt: Unabomber - Netflix
    The Assassination of Gianni Versace - Iplayer

    Interestingly, the last three are dramatised versions of real life events....
    I gave up on Billions after about 3 episodes. Self indulgent twaddle.
    Really? I binged it when we set up the shop, so wasn't exactly at my energetic best. But Giamatti (and Maggie Siff) make it for me.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,105
    DavidL said:

    Mortimer said:

    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Billions (series 1 and 2, 3 started last week). Think it is all on NOWTV?
    The Looming Tower - Amazon Prime
    Manhunt: Unabomber - Netflix
    The Assassination of Gianni Versace - Iplayer

    Interestingly, the last three are dramatised versions of real life events....
    I gave up on Billions after about 3 episodes. Self indulgent twaddle.
    Well worth persevering with Billions. The notion of the wife of the prosecutor working for the target billionaire strains credibility, but the end of the first series - the man with nothing to lose facing the man with everything to lose - is delicious.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,541

    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    The Man in the High Castle might appeal, if you've not seen it - avaIlable on Amazon Prime and no doubt as a box set. The Axis won the war and each occupies part of America, with some wild neutral lands in between. The Japanese are desperately worried that the Germans are poised to move to take the whole country. The ordinary populaion shifts uneasily between collaboraiton and resistance, and there's a Matrix-like underlying SF element of alternate timelines. Clever, well-acted, engrossing.
    It was good, but I thought it had something of a pacing problem, being pretty slow at the start, and then ending rather abruptly at the end of the second series. The art direction/ cinematography was absolutely magnificent.

    In contrast, I thought Altered Carbon fairly rubbish. Took books which were interesting a decade ago, and went nowhere with them. And the lead was woeful.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    Mr. Mark, impressive, though Mr. Owls must hold the all-time record (and I hope it's never beaten/repeated) for 'interesting' posting locations.

    On TV: they're making a Witcher TV series. I think there was one a while back in Poland (the books and videogame studio are Polish) which wasn't great, but this is, apparently, a better-funded shindig.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Mortimer said:

    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Billions (series 1 and 2, 3 started last week). Think it is all on NOWTV?
    The Looming Tower - Amazon Prime
    Manhunt: Unabomber - Netflix
    The Assassination of Gianni Versace - Iplayer

    Interestingly, the last three are dramatised versions of real life events....
    I have nothing to add on tv series (I barely watch them) but I met Versace’s killer.
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    edited April 2018
    Mindhunter on Netflix is highbrow and perfect and the cast is excellent.
    Series 2 in production

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindhunter_(TV_series)
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,942

    Mortimer said:

    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Billions (series 1 and 2, 3 started last week). Think it is all on NOWTV?
    The Looming Tower - Amazon Prime
    Manhunt: Unabomber - Netflix
    The Assassination of Gianni Versace - Iplayer

    Interestingly, the last three are dramatised versions of real life events....
    I have nothing to add on tv series (I barely watch them) but I met Versace’s killer.
    Crikey!

    The actor playing him in the series is wonderful. Has a very bright future.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,541
    If you have some patience (it starts quite slowly, and there are something like 21 episodes of well over an hour each... and of course subtitles), the Korean Misaeng is quite magnificent.

    Which is extraordinary since it's more or less a serious drama version of The Office...
    (Netflix)
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,616

    Mortimer said:

    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Billions (series 1 and 2, 3 started last week). Think it is all on NOWTV?
    The Looming Tower - Amazon Prime
    Manhunt: Unabomber - Netflix
    The Assassination of Gianni Versace - Iplayer

    Interestingly, the last three are dramatised versions of real life events....
    I met Versace’s killer.
    Under what circumstances?
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    Mortimer said:

    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Billions (series 1 and 2, 3 started last week). Think it is all on NOWTV?
    The Looming Tower - Amazon Prime
    Manhunt: Unabomber - Netflix
    The Assassination of Gianni Versace - Iplayer

    Interestingly, the last three are dramatised versions of real life events....
    I met Versace’s killer.
    Under what circumstances?
    Of all places, at a friend’s party in Lewisham about a year before he went on his killing spree. There was nothing memorable about him at all.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,235

    DavidL said:

    Mortimer said:

    SeanT said:

    On a lighter note, can anyone recommend any new box sets? Netflix series etc?

    I've exhausted the Crown (brilliant series 2) and am stuck.

    Billions (series 1 and 2, 3 started last week). Think it is all on NOWTV?
    The Looming Tower - Amazon Prime
    Manhunt: Unabomber - Netflix
    The Assassination of Gianni Versace - Iplayer

    Interestingly, the last three are dramatised versions of real life events....
    I gave up on Billions after about 3 episodes. Self indulgent twaddle.
    Well worth persevering with Billions. The notion of the wife of the prosecutor working for the target billionaire strains credibility, but the end of the first series - the man with nothing to lose facing the man with everything to lose - is delicious.
    I may have another go then. The wife thing was just irritating as was the clichéd performances and script all round. Especially the script actually. It did the actors no favours.
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