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Thanks to Liverpool getting through to the Champion’s league final and the ongoing series of strikes on SNCF – the French railway system we have a problem this weekend running PB.

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Beverley_C

So long and thanks for all the fish

JosiasJessop

Beverley_C said:

So long and thanks for all the fish

I've been out and haven't seen what's gone on, but if that's a permanent 'gone', then please don't go. Take a break if you need it (and I think mot of us need a break from PB every so often), but please come back. You'd be missed.

Foxy

Beverley_C said:

So long and thanks for all the fish

Stick around. I am not a Corbynist, but would vote Labour if in a Constituency where they could depose the Tories. Roughly 40% of the population support Labour, so for @Cyclefree to suggest that 40% of the population support anti-semitism or misogyny shows that she has lost her usual acumen. All political parties have their darksides, but that should not prevent us from supporting other bits of their platform.

notme

Foxy said:

Beverley_C said:

So long and thanks for all the fish

Stick around. I am not a Corbynist, but would vote Labour if in a Constituency where they could depose the Tories. Roughly 40% of the population support Labour, so for @Cyclefree to suggest that 40% of the population support anti-semitism or misogyny shows that she has lost her usual acumen. All political parties have their darksides, but that should not prevent us from supporting other bits of their platform.

True, all political parties do have their darksides. But with Labour, John Mcdonnell *is* the darkside! He is the madman.

CarlottaVance

OGH - good luck with your train travel! Having booked a ticket for a strike day in June I was delighted to see my train is still on sale - though two alternatives are "not available" SNCF have said bookable trains will be running - so fingers crossed- booked in advance first class train travel in Europe is remarkably affordable!

notme

FPT

NickPalmer said:

HYUFD said:

If Corbyn gets in he will be the UK Hollande, I expect the Tories would soon build up a big poll lead and unless the centre left finds a Macron, maybe Umunna?, to replace him the Tories would comfortably win the next general election

Possibly. Initially I think he'd do quite well, as people found he wasn't the madman that the Mail and Sun had built him up to be. By mid-term the difficulties of meeting expectations without upsetting the applecart would be challenging.

But all these things are part of democratic change, as Beverley suggests. People try one thing, then another. Parties respond in one way, then adjust. A situation where an exhausted party hangs on indefinitely on the basis of "but the others might be worse" is fundamentally unhealthy, not only for democracy but also for the parties in question. The Tories really need a period to think what they're about. Labour really needs to try some socialist government and either find it works or find it doesn't. Britain needs both to come up with credible long-term alternatives.

The issues of expectations is going to hit hard very quickly. His position is never about priorities. It's alway about where a labour government is going to spend more, in some cases substantially more, but theres never a downside or an acknowledgement that politics is managing priorities. The nebulous "we'll make the international tax cheating corporations pay" would never survive serious scrutiny and most certainly wouldnt materialise in the Treasury.

Yes, you could gain a bit extra from lopping a few pence on income tax and extending ni further up the income scale. But if you have a programme that involves increasing expenditure right across the public services you are going to need a lot more than that.

Morris_Dancer

FPT: Just been out. Rather depressing turn of the discourse in the interim.

Mrs C, I do hope you come back.

The_Apocalypse

JosiasJessop said:

Beverley_C said:

So long and thanks for all the fish

I've been out and haven't seen what's gone on, but if that's a permanent 'gone', then please don't go. Take a break if you need it (and I think mot of us need a break from PB every so often), but please come back. You'd be missed.

+1.

JonnyJimmy

Foxy said:

Beverley_C said:

So long and thanks for all the fish

Stick around. I am not a Corbynist, but would vote Labour if in a Constituency where they could depose the Tories. Roughly 40% of the population support Labour, so for @Cyclefree to suggest that 40% of the population support anti-semitism or misogyny shows that she has lost her usual acumen. All political parties have their darksides, but that should not prevent us from supporting other bits of their platform.

But 52% of people support xenophobia because of a poster?

Theuniondivvie

I see the types that were first to chuck around accusations of misogyny and bullying when it came to the likes of Plato seem to have put on a different hat today.

CarlottaVance

FPT:

Beverley_C said:

TGOHF said:

Beverley_C said:

MaxPB said:

I just hope Beverly_C doesn't have any Jews in her family.

Oh nice one. What's next for me? Asking how many swastikas I have on my walls?

Fuck off

It's a fair question - Irish republicans took advantage of both world wars - in WW2 supporting a fascist German regime.

As for fascists, this place is beginning to feel like it might have a few spare.

I'm done here

Sunil_Prasannan

Sad to see @Beverley_C leave PB. I do wish that she would remain.

Sunil_Prasannan

Good luck to TSE tomorrow night, and hope OGH gets his train on time!

Sean_F

FPT, I find this government inept, politically correct, and addicted to petty regulation, but otherwise, it does no harm to me or mine.

With Corbyn in power, I'd get all of the above in spades, plus big tax increases, plus lunacy on defence and security.

So, I find it an easy choice to decide which party to support.

Big_G_NorthWales

The_Apocalypse said:

JosiasJessop said:

Beverley_C said:

So long and thanks for all the fish

I've been out and haven't seen what's gone on, but if that's a permanent 'gone', then please don't go. Take a break if you need it (and I think mot of us need a break from PB every so often), but please come back. You'd be missed.

+1.

I am on a cruise ship in Mykonos and have another 8 days before arriving back in Barcelona. Just reading the threads from time to time and see little has changed but everyone should be relaxed and not feel intimidated about contributing

Travelling through Europe does raise thoughts on Brexit for me but right now it is great to be enjoying lovely weather, food, relaxation and BBC World News showing how irrelevant they are

Will provide my thoughts and instincts in due course

Be kind to one another

Gardenwalker

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

felix

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

Everyone is free to stay or go as they wish. I'm trying to think why you'd use the term 'infested' with regard to a group of human beings. Ah I've got it - wasn't there someone on QT last week wearing a t-shirt which likened Tories to rats. Language is so important is it not?

The_Apocalypse

Big_G_NorthWales said:

The_Apocalypse said:

JosiasJessop said:

Beverley_C said:

So long and thanks for all the fish

I've been out and haven't seen what's gone on, but if that's a permanent 'gone', then please don't go. Take a break if you need it (and I think mot of us need a break from PB every so often), but please come back. You'd be missed.

+1.

I am on a cruise ship in Mykonos and have another 8 days before arriving back in Barcelona. Just reading the threads from time to time and see little has changed but everyone should be relaxed and not feel intimidated about contributing

Travelling through Europe does raise thoughts on Brexit for me but right now it is great to be enjoying lovely weather, food, relaxation and BBC World News showing how irrelevant they are

Will provide my thoughts and instincts in due course

Be kind to one another

Glad to hear you’re having a good time Big G and hope the rest of your trip also goes well.

Like Sunil, I wish the best of luck to TSE and OGH (re the train)!

Charles

Beverley_C said:

So long and thanks for all the fish

Don’t go - your tales of domestic bliss are always uplifting

Things get a bit tetchy from time to time. It won’t last - I think you’re making a mistake supporting Corbyn but it’s your right to do so

Anazina

Garden Walker

You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

BBB – Bring Back Beverley

Gardenwalker

felix said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

Everyone is free to stay or go as they wish. I'm trying to think why you'd use the term 'infested' with regard to a group of human beings. Ah I've got it - wasn't there someone on QT last week wearing a t-shirt which likened Tories to rats. Language is so important is it not?

You picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

JonnyJimmy

Anazina said:

Garden Walker

You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

BBB – Bring Back Beverley

She hasn't been fired ffs

Tykejohnno

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

Brom

TSE isn't even from Liverpool is he? what's up with glory hunters and people not supporting their local teams!

SandyRentool

Beverley_C said:

So long and thanks for all the fish

The first shall be last and the last shall be first.

Please reconsider Beverley. The vast majority of us value your posts,and if some posters can't cope with your reasons for switching to Labour, they are the ones with a problem.

felix

Gardenwalker said:

felix said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

Everyone is free to stay or go as they wish. I'm trying to think why you'd use the term 'infested' with regard to a group of human beings. Ah I've got it - wasn't there someone on QT last week wearing a t-shirt which likened Tories to rats. Language is so important is it not?

You picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

Ah charming - nail - head- on.

Brom

Gardenwalker said:

felix said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

Everyone is free to stay or go as they wish. I'm trying to think why you'd use the term 'infested' with regard to a group of human beings. Ah I've got it - wasn't there someone on QT last week wearing a t-shirt which likened Tories to rats. Language is so important is it not?

You picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

Gardenwalker said:

felix said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

Everyone is free to stay or go as they wish. I'm trying to think why you'd use the term 'infested' with regard to a group of human beings. Ah I've got it - wasn't there someone on QT last week wearing a t-shirt which likened Tories to rats. Language is so important is it not?

You picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

Problem is lots of trolls joined the site post or in the run up to the EU ref and just spout nonsense to the point where the discourse is similar to that on twitter. I do miss the days from a few years ago where everyone was engaged but happy not to aggressively get their point across. Corbyn has obviously missed his best chance to govern but I wonder if his most passionate supporters will still be here in a year or two when Labour find a better leader.

Tykejohnno

Anazina said:

Garden Walker

You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

BBB – Bring Back Beverley

It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.

Anazina

Brom said:

TSE isn't even from Liverpool is he? what's up with glory hunters and people not supporting their local teams!

Good question – lots of glory grabbers on here. Man Utd fans from Scotland. Liverpool fans from Derbyshire, and Saudi Arabia.

Torby_Fennel

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

As a remainer, my perception is that the balance of posters on the site is slightly more Leavery than the general population but not wildly out of line.

SandyRentool

Tykejohnno said:

Anazina said:

Garden Walker

You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

BBB – Bring Back Beverley

It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.

Don't you mean 'floating voter' plato?

Tykejohnno

SandyRentool said:

Tykejohnno said:

Anazina said:

Garden Walker

You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

BBB – Bring Back Beverley

It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.

Don't you mean 'floating voter' plato?

Didn't she join the Tory ranks with membership ?

Morris_Dancer

Mr. Johnno, not sure but it's worth pointing out many members have been here for a decade or more. Changing one's mind over that period of time isn't unusual.

Pulpstar

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


Remain
HYUFD
Pulpstar
DecrepitJohnL
Dura_Ace
The_Apocalypse
PClipp
Ian_B2
Beverley_C
OllyT
Alistair
WilliamGlenn
Felix
NickPalmer
GardenWalker
Topping
rkrkrk
Scott_P
Foxy
El_Capitano
Surby
JonathanD
Scrapheap_as_was
Benpointer
Slackbladder
TheScreamingEagles
AlastairMeeks
MikeSmithson
The Union Divvie
Rottenborough
Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
TorbyFennel
BigG

Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno

Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !

dixiedean

Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

Cyclefree

Foxy said:

Beverley_C said:

So long and thanks for all the fish

Stick around. I am not a Corbynist, but would vote Labour if in a Constituency where they could depose the Tories. Roughly 40% of the population support Labour, so for @Cyclefree to suggest that 40% of the population support anti-semitism or misogyny shows that she has lost her usual acumen. All political parties have their darksides, but that should not prevent us from supporting other bits of their platform.

Do not misquote me. I said this:-

"I do not wish to endorse the current government. But unlike you I do not wish to endorse an alternative which I consider to be even worse. Corbyn and his coterie are beyond the pale for me. To use Mr Meeks’s approach: those who cannot abide the xenophobic lies which led to Brexit and decide to vote Labour to punish the Tories will be, whether they like it or not, endorsing the anti-Jewish racism of Corbyn’s Labour party. I am not going to play any part in substituting one form of xenophobia with another."

The key phrase is "whether they like it or not".

You may not like my analysis just as many on here do not like it when Mr Meeks points out the same thing with regard to the Leave vote. But when you vote Labour that vote will be taken by the Labour leadership as support for them. And the Labour leadership, Barnet and a few other areas nothwithstanding, are calculating that relatively few voters care about the anti-semitism issue and so they don't need to do anything about it. Your attitude shows that they are right in that cynical - if immoral - calculation. If we do end up getting a government with an anti-Jewish bias then it will be those who vote for that government who will be responsible - and for everything that will entail - even if they would like to persuade themselves that they did not support that bit.

As for misogyny, yes I do take seriously threats of violence against women and women in public life. If others don't and if the Shadow Chancellor doesn't then I am bloody well going to call him out on it and others who turn a blind eye to such stuff.

Still, it's useful to know that people are against racism and sexism up until the point when they vote for a party some of whose members are both openly racist and sexist and then these terrible sins become something that you can ignore.

Charles

Torby_Fennel said:

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

As a remainer, my perception is that the balance of posters on the site is slightly more Leavery than the general population but not wildly out of line.

I suspect you have more federalists and my re crashers than elsewhere. Overall a slight liberal-centre bias but a few sensible Tories (and some less sensible ones as well)

anothernick

Torby_Fennel said:

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

As a remainer, my perception is that the balance of posters on the site is slightly more Leavery than the general population but not wildly out of line.

But it's not as leavery as it was - leavers are beginning to fall by the wayside as their promises of a simple, cost-free, "have our cake and eat it" Brexit have, shall we say, become rather problematic recently.

surby

What led to Bev_C leaving ? Clearly, she is upset.

Cyclefree

Anazina said:

Garden Walker

You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

BBB – Bring Back Beverley

She was not kicked out. She chose to go. Because of some rather offensive comments about what the Irish did during WW2 which seemed OTT and unnecessary. I hope she comes back. But it's her call.

David_Evershed

I voted for maximum free trade as over time this generates the most wealth for the most people. See how the poor in China and other countries in Asia have benefitted from increased free trade.

surby

Pulpstar said:

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


Remain
HYUFD
Pulpstar
DecrepitJohnL
Dura_Ace
The_Apocalypse
PClipp
Ian_B2
Beverley_C
OllyT
Alistair
WilliamGlenn
Felix
NickPalmer
GardenWalker
Topping
rkrkrk
Scott_P
Foxy
El_Capitano
Surby
JonathanD
Scrapheap_as_was
Benpointer
Slackbladder
TheScreamingEagles
AlastairMeeks
MikeSmithson
The Union Divvie
Rottenborough
Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
TorbyFennel
BigG

Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno

Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !

HYUFD will support whatever T May will do. To say HYUFD is a Remain supporter is stretching things a very long way!

Gardenwalker

Certainly it’s not “cool” to Leave anymore, ie the sheer insanity of it is becoming obvious.

The only arguments left are:
- but, immigration
- it was the will of the people so we must do it
- we’re different coz common law, feet & inches etc
- it’ll be alright in 100 years (Charles)

JonnyJimmy

surby said:

Pulpstar said:

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


Remain
HYUFD
Pulpstar
DecrepitJohnL
Dura_Ace
The_Apocalypse
PClipp
Ian_B2
Beverley_C
OllyT
Alistair
WilliamGlenn
Felix
NickPalmer
GardenWalker
Topping
rkrkrk
Scott_P
Foxy
El_Capitano
Surby
JonathanD
Scrapheap_as_was
Benpointer
Slackbladder
TheScreamingEagles
AlastairMeeks
MikeSmithson
The Union Divvie
Rottenborough
Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
TorbyFennel
BigG

Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno

Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !

HYUFD will support whatever T May will do. To say HYUFD is a Remain supporter is stretching things a very long way!

Pulpstar said "vote in the referendum", not supporter.

Pulpstar

surby said:

Pulpstar said:

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


Remain
HYUFD
Pulpstar
DecrepitJohnL
Dura_Ace
The_Apocalypse
PClipp
Ian_B2
Beverley_C
OllyT
Alistair
WilliamGlenn
Felix
NickPalmer
GardenWalker
Topping
rkrkrk
Scott_P
Foxy
El_Capitano
Surby
JonathanD
Scrapheap_as_was
Benpointer
Slackbladder
TheScreamingEagles
AlastairMeeks
MikeSmithson
The Union Divvie
Rottenborough
Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
TorbyFennel
BigG

Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno

Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !

HYUFD will support whatever T May will do. To say HYUFD is a Remain supporter is stretching things a very long way!

When it came to the crunch, HYUFD voted remain in the EU ref unlike most Tory members.

Tykejohnno

Pulpstar said:

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


Remain
HYUFD
Pulpstar
DecrepitJohnL
Dura_Ace
The_Apocalypse
PClipp
Ian_B2
Beverley_C
OllyT
Alistair
WilliamGlenn
Felix
NickPalmer
GardenWalker
Topping
rkrkrk
Scott_P
Foxy
El_Capitano
Surby
JonathanD
Scrapheap_as_was
Benpointer
Slackbladder
TheScreamingEagles
AlastairMeeks
MikeSmithson
The Union Divvie
Rottenborough
Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
TorbyFennel
BigG

Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno

Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !

Top job pulp. ;-)

David_Evershed

Beverley_C said:

So long and thanks for all the fish

Please stay. We need more Douglas Adams fans.

Gardenwalker

Cyclefree said:

Anazina said:

Garden Walker

You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

BBB – Bring Back Beverley

She was not kicked out. She chose to go. Because of some rather offensive comments about what the Irish did during WW2 which seemed OTT and unnecessary. I hope she comes back. But it's her call.

I thought the Jews remark was particularly obnoxious.

As for WW2, it just shows how dementedly stuck in the past some of the PB Tories are.

Frankly, the world would be much shitter without the Irish.

Slackbladder

Pulpstar said:

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:

Actually I voted leave, but only the basis (generally) that i don't want to be part of the politicial structure. The economic structure and the single market i'm kind of ok with.

Mind you, some days i'm like 'f*** the EU, lets go it alone', and then most days i'm 'Lets get the best deal possible and focus then on other needed things'.

Dura_Ace

Pulpstar said:

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


Remain
HYUFD
Pulpstar
DecrepitJohnL
Dura_Ace
The_Apocalypse
PClipp
Ian_B2
Beverley_C
OllyT
Alistair
WilliamGlenn
Felix
NickPalmer
GardenWalker
Topping
rkrkrk
Scott_P
Foxy
El_Capitano
Surby
JonathanD
Scrapheap_as_was
Benpointer
Slackbladder
TheScreamingEagles
AlastairMeeks
MikeSmithson
The Union Divvie
Rottenborough
Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
TorbyFennel
BigG

Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno

Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !

Interesting lists. The only way to settle the deep divide now before we all go Yugoslav on each is a game of Chardee MacDennis.

Pulpstar

@Slackbladder My apologies !

surby

dixiedean said:

Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

Gardenwalker

Tykejohnno said:

Anazina said:

Garden Walker

You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

BBB – Bring Back Beverley

It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.

Plato was certifiable.
No wonder she’s also been banned from Twitter.

The number of true loons on here is I think almost zero. Finchley Road is still a thing, but that was funny rather than obsessive compulsive which Plato was.

surby

Gardenwalker said:

Certainly it’s not “cool” to Leave anymore, ie the sheer insanity of it is becoming obvious.

The only arguments left are:
- but, immigration
- it was the will of the people so we must do it
- we’re different coz common law, feet & inches etc
- it’ll be alright in 100 years (Charles)

You missed out the most important one -pints!

David_Evershed

Anazina said:

Brom said:

TSE isn't even from Liverpool is he? what's up with glory hunters and people not supporting their local teams!

Good question – lots of glory grabbers on here. Man Utd fans from Scotland. Liverpool fans from Derbyshire, and Saudi Arabia.

How many Man United fans does it take to change a light bulb?

One to change the bulb and one to drive him up fom Surrey.

Anazina

surby said:

dixiedean said:

Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

Plato is a man.

Sean_F

Tykejohnno said:

Pulpstar said:

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


Remain
HYUFD
Pulpstar
DecrepitJohnL
Dura_Ace
The_Apocalypse
PClipp
Ian_B2
Beverley_C
OllyT
Alistair
WilliamGlenn
Felix
NickPalmer
GardenWalker
Topping
rkrkrk
Scott_P
Foxy
El_Capitano
Surby
JonathanD
Scrapheap_as_was
Benpointer
Slackbladder
TheScreamingEagles
AlastairMeeks
MikeSmithson
The Union Divvie
Rottenborough
Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
TorbyFennel
BigG

Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno

Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !

Top job pulp. ;-)

I think Carlotta Vance was Remain, and Wulfrun Phil and Tissue Price were leave.

David_Evershed

Anazina said:

surby said:

dixiedean said:

Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

Plato is a man.

Plato is whatever he/she defines himself/herself as.

surby

Tykejohnno said:

Anazina said:

Garden Walker

You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

BBB – Bring Back Beverley

It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.

"Tory" is the most respectable description you can use about Plato. The correct description is way, way, further to the Right!

Gardenwalker

So Aaron Banks, Ivan Rogers and Dominic Cummings all agree: Brexit is a disaster.

Time to cancel it.

https://twitter.com/arron_banks/status/999741631652941825?s=21

surby

Anazina said:

surby said:

dixiedean said:

Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

Plato is a man.

Not PB plato.

David_Evershed

Gardenwalker said:

Tykejohnno said:

Anazina said:

Garden Walker

You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

BBB – Bring Back Beverley

It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.

Plato was certifiable.
No wonder she’s also been banned from Twitter.

The number of true loons on here is I think almost zero. Finchley Road is still a thing, but that was funny rather than obsessive compulsive which Plato was.

Mornington Crescent.

Sunil_Prasannan

David_Evershed said:

Anazina said:

surby said:

dixiedean said:

Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

Plato is a man.

Plato is whatever he/she defines himself/herself as.

I met her at a PB gathering a number of years ago. Definitely a "her"!

Gardenwalker

surby said:

Gardenwalker said:

Certainly it’s not “cool” to Leave anymore, ie the sheer insanity of it is becoming obvious.

The only arguments left are:
- but, immigration
- it was the will of the people so we must do it
- we’re different coz common law, feet & inches etc
- it’ll be alright in 100 years (Charles)

You missed out the most important one -pints!

Yep. But the evil mafioso octopus tentacled Euro-bureaucrats in Brussels allowed us to keep those, to taunt us with reminders of our former imperial majesty.

Morris_Dancer

There have always been some trolls/astroturfers here (old timers may recall Coldstone). It would be slightly surprising if there weren't any right now. Regardless, being civil is a good habit to adopt.

surby

Gardenwalker said:

So Aaron Banks, Ivan Rogers and Dominic Cummings all agree: Brexit is a disaster.

Time to cancel it.

https://twitter.com/arron_banks/status/999741631652941825?s=21

Should we have a Bobby Ewing moment in the shower ?

Anazina

surby said:

Anazina said:

surby said:

dixiedean said:

Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

Plato is a man.

Not PB plato.

The 'she' is a 'she' with a man's name?

AlastairMeeks

I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

surby

Anazina said:

surby said:

Anazina said:

surby said:

dixiedean said:

Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

Plato is a man.

Not PB plato.

The 'she' is a 'she' with a man's name?

Yes!

Gardenwalker

surby said:

Gardenwalker said:

So Aaron Banks, Ivan Rogers and Dominic Cummings all agree: Brexit is a disaster.

Time to cancel it.

https://twitter.com/arron_banks/status/999741631652941825?s=21

Should we have a Bobby Ewing moment in the shower ?

Cancel the whole box set. Do not renew for a third season.

Sunil_Prasannan

Pulpstar said:

Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno

Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !

Sunil whistles innocently

Anazina

Pulpstar

RCS1000 is a Leaver despite being the son of Mr Michael Smithson, host of PB and Remain Ultra.

Tykejohnno

Gardenwalker said:

Tykejohnno said:

Anazina said:

Garden Walker

You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

BBB – Bring Back Beverley

It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.

Plato was certifiable.
No wonder she’s also been banned from Twitter.

The number of true loons on here is I think almost zero. Finchley Road is still a thing, but that was funny rather than obsessive compulsive which Plato was.

Come on Mr Walker,obsessive and compulsive are two words I can use for a number of pro EU fanatics on here ;-)

If Theresa betrays my vote,I'm joining the loons ;-) some on here might say I already have ;-)

Anazina

surby said:

Anazina said:

surby said:

Anazina said:

surby said:

dixiedean said:

Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

Plato is a man.

Not PB plato.

The 'she' is a 'she' with a man's name?

Yes!

Okay........

Sunil_Prasannan

Anazina said:

surby said:

Anazina said:

surby said:

dixiedean said:

Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

Plato is a man.

Not PB plato.

The 'she' is a 'she' with a man's name?

It's her cat's name, allegedly!

Anazina

AlastairMeeks said:

I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

Congratulations. North Essex is stunningly beautiful. Dedham Vale is one of the best places in the world to bob about on a boat clutching a cold glass of a sunny Saturday.

Tykejohnno

Sean_F said:

Tykejohnno said:

Pulpstar said:

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


Remain
HYUFD
Pulpstar
DecrepitJohnL
Dura_Ace
The_Apocalypse
PClipp
Ian_B2
Beverley_C
OllyT
Alistair
WilliamGlenn
Felix
NickPalmer
GardenWalker
Topping
rkrkrk
Scott_P
Foxy
El_Capitano
Surby
JonathanD
Scrapheap_as_was
Benpointer
Slackbladder
TheScreamingEagles
AlastairMeeks
MikeSmithson
The Union Divvie
Rottenborough
Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
TorbyFennel
BigG

Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno

Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !

Top job pulp. ;-)

I think Carlotta Vance was Remain, and Wulfrun Phil and Tissue Price were leave.

Think you could be right.

Charles

Gardenwalker said:

Certainly it’s not “cool” to Leave anymore, ie the sheer insanity of it is becoming obvious.

The only arguments left are:
- but, immigration
- it was the will of the people so we must do it
- we’re different coz common law, feet & inches etc
- it’ll be alright in 100 years (Charles)

You’re misrepresenting me

I just have faith in the British people to make a go of it

Anazina

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Anazina said:

surby said:

Anazina said:

surby said:

dixiedean said:

Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

Plato is a man.

Not PB plato.

The 'she' is a 'she' with a man's name?

It's her cat's name, allegedly!

So this woman is named after her male cat.

Grist to Garden's mill I feel...

JosiasJessop

AlastairMeeks said:

I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

Good luck in your new home. How long's your commute going to be, or will you be slacking it by working from home?

Gardenwalker

AlastairMeeks said:

I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

Congratulations! Have you sold your place on Islington / Hackney borders? Or did you keep it like the lucky blighters here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5769043/A-house-city-country-abroad-new-middle-class-boast.html

The_Apocalypse

Re the Remain/Leave list, Southam is also a Remainer and Cyclefree also voted to Leave (although IIRC she’s not been too happy with the way the government have been handling Brexit!) tyson is another Remainer as well.

I remember Plato back when she wasn’t all Trumpy. She was normal Tory, and easy to talk to - she was the reason why I started to watch ITVbe back then as well (she recommended a show to me). And then she became a massive Trump supporter, and it all went down hill from there. I didn’t know she was banned from Twitter.

Gardenwalker

Charles said:

Gardenwalker said:

Certainly it’s not “cool” to Leave anymore, ie the sheer insanity of it is becoming obvious.

The only arguments left are:
- but, immigration
- it was the will of the people so we must do it
- we’re different coz common law, feet & inches etc
- it’ll be alright in 100 years (Charles)

You’re misrepresenting me

I just have faith in the British people to make a go of it

Faith-based policymaking. Cool.

rcs1000

Pulpstar said:

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


Remain
HYUFD
Pulpstar
DecrepitJohnL
Dura_Ace
The_Apocalypse
PClipp
Ian_B2
Beverley_C
OllyT
Alistair
WilliamGlenn
Felix
NickPalmer
GardenWalker
Topping
rkrkrk
Scott_P
Foxy
El_Capitano
Surby
JonathanD
Scrapheap_as_was
Benpointer
Slackbladder
TheScreamingEagles
AlastairMeeks
MikeSmithson
The Union Divvie
Rottenborough
Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
TorbyFennel
BigG

Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno

Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !

So, Richard Tyndall and I aren't even worthy of mention. (Sobs quietly.)

AlastairMeeks

JosiasJessop said:

AlastairMeeks said:

I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

Good luck in your new home. How long's your commute going to be, or will you be slacking it by working from home?

It's just over an hour, door to door. I suspect I'll be working from home a fair bit (the new place has a very practical office). However, I'm keeping my flat in London for the moment, just in case the commute doesn't suit me.

rcs1000

Pulpstar also forgot:

Fuck this referendum, nuke Brussels:
archer101au

Tykejohnno

rcs1000 said:

Pulpstar said:

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


Remain
HYUFD
Pulpstar
DecrepitJohnL
Dura_Ace
The_Apocalypse
PClipp
Ian_B2
Beverley_C
OllyT
Alistair
WilliamGlenn
Felix
NickPalmer
GardenWalker
Topping
rkrkrk
Scott_P
Foxy
El_Capitano
Surby
JonathanD
Scrapheap_as_was
Benpointer
Slackbladder
TheScreamingEagles
AlastairMeeks
MikeSmithson
The Union Divvie
Rottenborough
Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
TorbyFennel
BigG

Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno

Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !

So, Richard Tyndall and I aren't even worthy of mention. (Sobs quietly.)

Robert,I think pulp went by posters on the last two threads,sorry if you did post before pulp did the servey.

Pulpstar

AlastairMeeks said:

JosiasJessop said:

AlastairMeeks said:

I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

Good luck in your new home. How long's your commute going to be, or will you be slacking it by working from home?

It's just over an hour, door to door. I suspect I'll be working from home a fair bit (the new place has a very practical office). However, I'm keeping my flat in London for the moment, just in case the commute doesn't suit me.

Congratulations on exchange !

Gardenwalker

rcs1000 said:

Pulpstar said:

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


Remain
HYUFD
Pulpstar
DecrepitJohnL
Dura_Ace
The_Apocalypse
PClipp
Ian_B2
Beverley_C
OllyT
Alistair
WilliamGlenn
Felix
NickPalmer
GardenWalker
Topping
rkrkrk
Scott_P
Foxy
El_Capitano
Surby
JonathanD
Scrapheap_as_was
Benpointer
Slackbladder
TheScreamingEagles
AlastairMeeks
MikeSmithson
The Union Divvie
Rottenborough
Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
TorbyFennel
BigG

Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno

Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !

So, Richard Tyndall and I aren't even worthy of mention. (Sobs quietly.)

That survey is a swizz.
@Alanbrooke is also missing from Leave, as re those two Welsh posters. Edit: and @Ishmael_Z

Scott_P

https://twitter.com/AndrewSparrow/status/1000025361839685640

Benpointer

Pulpstar said:

AlastairMeeks said:

JosiasJessop said:

AlastairMeeks said:

I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

Good luck in your new home. How long's your commute going to be, or will you be slacking it by working from home?

It's just over an hour, door to door. I suspect I'll be working from home a fair bit (the new place has a very practical office). However, I'm keeping my flat in London for the moment, just in case the commute doesn't suit me.

Congratulations on exchange !

I liked your Remain / Leave list Pulpstar (I like lists!) Any chance of updating it based on this thread to add in the few peripheral posters() you originally overlooked? Please?

RobD

Scott_P said:

twitter.com/AndrewSparrow/status/1000025361839685640

Why don't the topline figures on the remain/leave polls show this? Surely 30% of Labour leave would be a noticeable amount?

Benpointer

rcs1000 said:

Pulpstar also forgot:

Fuck this referendum, nuke Brussels:
archer101au

Which side should he/she be?

Benpointer

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Tykejohnno said:

Anazina said:

Garden Walker

You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

BBB – Bring Back Beverley

It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.

Plato was certifiable.
No wonder she’s also been banned from Twitter.

The number of true loons on here is I think almost zero. Finchley Road is still a thing, but that was funny rather than obsessive compulsive which Plato was.

Come on Mr Walker,obsessive and compulsive are two words I can use for a number of pro EU fanatics on here ;-)

If Theresa betrays my vote,I'm joining the loons ;-) some on here might say I already have ;-)

What's with the 'if'?

Pulpstar

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/AndrewSparrow/status/1000025361839685640

I suspect we'll get the same sort of figures if Corbyn gets in. Nevertheless he'll have been voted in, and it'll be spilt milk and crying at that point.

Sean_F

rcs1000 said:

Pulpstar said:

Tykejohnno said:

Gardenwalker said:

Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .

From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


Remain
HYUFD
Pulpstar
DecrepitJohnL
Dura_Ace
The_Apocalypse
PClipp
Ian_B2
Beverley_C
OllyT
Alistair
WilliamGlenn
Felix
NickPalmer
GardenWalker
Topping
rkrkrk
Scott_P
Foxy
El_Capitano
Surby
JonathanD
Scrapheap_as_was
Benpointer
Slackbladder
TheScreamingEagles
AlastairMeeks
MikeSmithson
The Union Divvie
Rottenborough
Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
TorbyFennel
BigG

Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno

Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !

So, Richard Tyndall and I aren't even worthy of mention. (Sobs quietly.)

Sean T was also Leave.

I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,

surby

RobD said:

Scott_P said:

twitter.com/AndrewSparrow/status/1000025361839685640

Why don't the topline figures on the remain/leave polls show this? Surely 30% of Labour leave would be a noticeable amount?

If the Labour supporters split 70:30 Remain:Leave, then 30% of 30% is about 9%.

Remember this 9% is of the Labour voters. Let's say 9% of 40% = 3.6% of the total.

Yes, that is significant. However, a similar number of Tory "Remainers" have moved in the opposite direction.

Just look at HYUFD, Carlotta here.

Pulpstar

Sean_F said:

I think Carlotta Vance was Remain, and Wulfrun Phil and Tissue Price were leave.

Carlotta, can you confirm ?

Charles

Gardenwalker said:

Charles said:

Gardenwalker said:

Certainly it’s not “cool” to Leave anymore, ie the sheer insanity of it is becoming obvious.

The only arguments left are:
- but, immigration
- it was the will of the people so we must do it
- we’re different coz common law, feet & inches etc
- it’ll be alright in 100 years (Charles)

You’re misrepresenting me

I just have faith in the British people to make a go of it

Faith-based policymaking. Cool.

You do like misrepresenting me.

That’s not what I said

Charles

rcs1000 said:

Pulpstar also forgot:

Fuck this referendum, nuke Brussels:
archer101au

I thought he was a remainer...?