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  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,059
    edited September 2013
    We're back!!

    Did the site crash when 'he who must not be named' tried to hit the 10k?

    Who saw Polly's tweets last night moaning about the biased BBC News coverage of Ed's energy - so funny to see... she even put up their complaints phone number on one...
  • sabresabre Posts: 12
    hooray!
  • Blue_rogBlue_rog Posts: 2,019
    Hoorah I was getting withdrawal symptoms!
  • Seeing as normal service has been resumed, I'd better return the normal service....

    http://www.newstatesman.com/2013/09/miliband-isnt-chasing-power-rather-hes-hoping-luck-it-might-just-find-him
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    FPT
    TOPPING said:

    so the question is - what exactly was in tim's 10,000th post such that it managed to bring the whole site down?

    He told the truth.
  • AveryLP said:

    FPT

    TOPPING said:

    so the question is - what exactly was in tim's 10,000th post such that it managed to bring the whole site down?

    He told the truth.
    I preferred my explanation. ;-)
  • Turns out he's Alistair Campbell after all!
  • FluffyThoughtsFluffyThoughts Posts: 2,420
    edited September 2013
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEaKX9YYHiQ

    Me missed you! Xxxx

    Editted-to-Add: Went to UK-PollingReport this morning. Nice to see we in OGH's kindergarten are growing-up! I'd rather be banished to [insert moderators' wishes]....
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,914
    Hello all,

    It's me. Last night (while I slept in Houston) our main web server ran out of disk space and ground to a halt.

    I've deleted a whole bunch temporary files to free up some space, but the problem is becoming critical, and disk space is likely to become an issue again sooner rather than later.

    Tonight, before I fly back to London, I'm planning on migrating the site to a new web-server. This should solve the disk space issue, and (hopefully) make the site a little more snappy too. I would guess we'll have about an hour of downtime between 11pm and midnight.

    There is a small risk that I do not get the site up and running before I board my plane at 2am UK time. In which case, the site will be down until early afternoon on Friday.

    Thanks, Robert
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited September 2013
    We talk regularly about the influence of the press - here's some recent polling

    "More people still turn to television as their primary news source than any other platform, according to a new report from media watchdog Ofcom. The survey of nearly 3,000 adults also found that the BBC was by some way still the most popular single source of news in the UK, as well as rated the “most important”.

    Of those surveyed, 78 per cent said they used TV as a source of news, compared to 40 per cent using newspapers, 35 per cent radio and 32 per cent the internet. The top three individual news sources were all TV channels. BBC One led the way, with 57 per cent using it for news. A third of respondents used ITV/UTV/STV, while 17 per cent used BBC News 24. The top website was also the BBC, with 16 per cent using it. The Sun was the most used newspaper (10 per cent), while BBC Radio 2 was the most used radio station (8 per cent).

    Almost a third of people access news through only one platform, with most of those preferring TV. Just over a fifth of respondents (22 per cent) said it was the only platform that provided news, with 5 per cent using internet only, 3 per cent newspapers and 2 per cent radio. When asked which was “the most important” news sources, more than half named a BBC channel or the website, with 34 per cent plumping for BBC One alone. That gave the channel 2.5 times more mentions than the next most important source, ITV (13 per cent).

    However, Sky News was rated as more trustworthy, impartial and unbiased by those who use it than any other TV source. The BBC trailed ion behind Channel 4 News and ITV in the category, with Channel 5 News rates the least reliable." http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/nearly-twice-many-tune-tv-news-read-newspapers-bbc-rated-most-important-source
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,279
    Robert, once again, many thanks for all your hard work behind the scenes to keep PB up and running.
    rcs1000 said:

    Hello all,

    It's me. Last night (while I slept in Houston) our main web server ran out of disk space and ground to a halt.

    I've deleted a whole bunch temporary files to free up some space, but the problem is becoming critical, and disk space is likely to become an issue again sooner rather than later.

    Tonight, before I fly back to London, I'm planning on migrating the site to a new web-server. This should solve the disk space issue, and (hopefully) make the site a little more snappy too. I would guess we'll have about an hour of downtime between 11pm and midnight.

    There is a small risk that I do not get the site up and running before I board my plane at 2am UK time. In which case, the site will be down until early afternoon on Friday.

    Thanks, Robert

  • This increase has become from him shoring up his own base...and that's what his conference speech was all about, keeping his core vote and the unions onside. Perhaps he was in deeper trouble amongst his party than was thought.
  • It'll be interesting to see if Ed's poll boost is maintained tonight as yesterday's news coverage was somewhat less favourable than the immediate reaction.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,752
    Now PBers know what's it's like if there's a blackout !

    Thanks Robert.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,279
    Having watched Damian McBride's media performances over the last few days, I have became more convinced that this former Labour spin doctor is now hoping to become a regular political commentator like Alastair Campbell.
    Benedict Brogan in the Telegraph - Power Trip by Damian McBride: the verdict

    "McBride has been disowned publicly by those he admires, and dropped by those in the media who relied on him. Some might say that his account is a terrible indictment of how political journalism came to rely on the genius – the dark genius – of one man. His passion may have been put to the wrong use, but there is something mesmerising about the relentlessness that nearly broke Labour. So much of this invaluable book is true. It is not, however, the work of someone who has given up on politics, which explains why we will have to wait for the full McBride story."
  • FluffyThoughtsFluffyThoughts Posts: 2,420
    edited September 2013
    rcs1000 said:

    Hello all,

    It's me. Last night (while I slept in Houston) our main web server ran out of disk space and ground to a halt.

    I've deleted a whole bunch temporary files to free up some space, but the problem is becoming critical, and disk space is likely to become an issue again sooner rather than later...

    Thanks, Robert

    I have never proven it yet, but....

    My lickle laptop runs a full-production of Oracle 11gR2 RDBMS, three Weblogic Server, one Glassfish, unknown Tomcats and a couple of idle RedHat JBoss servers. It is also a fully-fledged ESB/SOA environment (plus ancilliary IDEs). Disk-IO has alway been a problem for my single 7200-rpm disk but the rest of the server (Dual-Quad i7/8Gb RAM) have been twiddling in expectation.

    Now, and here is the crux: Could you not use a USB-Array as an off-line storage device?* Somewhere I have a six-point USB-hub: I have always wondered whether it could support five USD-SDD 16gb-drives. Assuming Windows OS (other grown-up systems do I assume) then could you not configure a five SDD-drive array (RAID-5) with a spare hot-spot port?

    Ofcourse it is possible to upscale (32Gb SDD would give 128Gb and still support hot-swap). As the cost of SDD is droping (whilst most top-end hardware has not) surely this is a cheap option for whatever host/proxy files you need to support...?

    * ESB 3.0
  • Fluffy was that even English?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,914

    rcs1000 said:

    Hello all,

    It's me. Last night (while I slept in Houston) our main web server ran out of disk space and ground to a halt.

    I've deleted a whole bunch temporary files to free up some space, but the problem is becoming critical, and disk space is likely to become an issue again sooner rather than later...

    Thanks, Robert

    I have never proven it yet, but....

    My lickle laptop runs a full-production of Oracle 11gR2, three Weblogic Server, one Glassfish, unknown Tomcats and a couple of idle RedHat JBoss servers. It is also a fully-fledged ESB/SOA environment (plus ancilliary IDEs). Disk-IO has alway been a problem for my single 7200-rpm disk but the rest of the server (Dual-Quad i7/8Gb RAM has been twiddling in expectation).

    Now, and here is the crux: Could you not use a USB-Array as an off-line storage device? Somewhere I have a six-point USB-hub: I have always wondered whether it could support five USD-SDD 16gb-drives. Assuming Windows OS (other grown-up systems do I assume) then could you not configure a five SDD-drive array (RAID-5) with a spare hot-spot port?

    Ofcourse it is possible to upscale (32Gb SDD would give 128Gb and still support hot-swap). As the cost of SDD is droping (whilst most top-end hardware has not) surely this is a cheap option for whatever host/proxy files you need to support...?
    It is cheaper to move to a new server, than to rent more rack space!
  • fitalass said:

    And in the case of Nick Palmer, I think most sensible commentators would suggest they were absolutely right to do so.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,095
    Has Red Ed brought his power freeze to pb.com? Ironic if we go in two elections from Brown Out to brownouts.....

    Glad it is back.

  • BBC: Eric Joyce to stand trial for an altercation at Edinburgh airport, which he denies.

    O/t: thanks for all your work, Robert.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,095
    edited September 2013
    Well if fitalass promoting Dan Hodges' latest doesn't summon wee timmy, we may have lost him for good.
  • fitalass said:
    How many Tory MPs defeated in 1997 tried again in 2001?

    Is it a smaller or larger proportion?
  • Patrick said:

    Fluffy was that even English?

    I have a reputation to keep, dontcha know....
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    As our tim had his 10,000 post yet ? where is the lad ;-)

    He's missing all the fun of Osborne sucking up to his rich banker friends ;-) most unlike him.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited September 2013
    Bunch of releases from ONS this morning, mostly linked to the main release of Quarterly National Accounts for 2013 Q2.

    Main revision is upgrade of 2013 Q1 growth from 0.3% to 0.4%. Q2 remains at 0.7% following previous upgrade from 0.6% in August's Second Estimate of Q2 GDP.

    GDP still 3.3% behind 2007 peak.
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    edited September 2013

    Well if fitalass promoting Dan Hodges' latest doesn't summon wee timmy, we may have lost him for good.

    I like to think he had an epiphany.

    - "My god, what am I doing! Is this what my life has become."
    - After a bout of uncontrolled sobbing, and a speculative glance at the gas oven, tim stumbles blinking in to the daylight. Unshaven, unwashed, unhealthy. Tears leave tracks through his grimy visage.
    - "The world, it's ... beautiful"
    - Bird tweets, squirrel bounds from tree to tree, etc.
    - Fade to black.
  • rcs1000 said:

    Hello all,

    It's me. Last night (while I slept in Houston) our main web server ran out of disk space and ground to a halt.

    I've deleted a whole bunch temporary files to free up some space, but the problem is becoming critical, and disk space is likely to become an issue again sooner rather than later.

    Tonight, before I fly back to London, I'm planning on migrating the site to a new web-server. This should solve the disk space issue, and (hopefully) make the site a little more snappy too. I would guess we'll have about an hour of downtime between 11pm and midnight.

    There is a small risk that I do not get the site up and running before I board my plane at 2am UK time. In which case, the site will be down until early afternoon on Friday.

    Thanks, Robert

    Have you considered a 'fully managed' hosting option?

    http://www.webfusion.co.uk/managed-hosting/

    http://www.webfusion.co.uk/dedicated-servers/unmanaged-dedicated-servers/
  • rcs1000 said:

    Hello all,

    It's me. Last night (while I slept in Houston) our main web server ran out of disk space and ground to a halt.

    I've deleted a whole bunch temporary files to free up some space, but the problem is becoming critical, and disk space is likely to become an issue again sooner rather than later...

    Thanks, Robert

    I have never proven it yet, but....

    My lickle laptop runs a full-production of Oracle 11gR2 RDBMS, three Weblogic Server, one Glassfish, unknown Tomcats and a couple of idle RedHat JBoss servers. It is also a fully-fledged ESB/SOA environment (plus ancilliary IDEs). Disk-IO has alway been a problem for my single 7200-rpm disk but the rest of the server (Dual-Quad i7/8Gb RAM) have been twiddling in expectation.

    Now, and here is the crux: Could you not use a USB-Array as an off-line storage device?* Somewhere I have a six-point USB-hub: I have always wondered whether it could support five USD-SDD 16gb-drives. Assuming Windows OS (other grown-up systems do I assume) then could you not configure a five SDD-drive array (RAID-5) with a spare hot-spot port?

    Ofcourse it is possible to upscale (32Gb SDD would give 128Gb and still support hot-swap). As the cost of SDD is droping (whilst most top-end hardware has not) surely this is a cheap option for whatever host/proxy files you need to support...?

    * ESB 3.0
    How much space does this site use?
    Not like you're serving up big files is it?
    Get a NAS and a static IP, DNS entries etc... host it from your living room. ;-)
  • An outpouring of hysteria and hyperbole post Tuesday crashed the server.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,181

    AveryLP said:

    FPT

    TOPPING said:

    so the question is - what exactly was in tim's 10,000th post such that it managed to bring the whole site down?

    He told the truth.
    I preferred my explanation. ;-)
    Certainly yours was more likely.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,044

    We're back!!

    Did the site crash when 'he who must not be named' tried to hit the 10k?

    Who saw Polly's tweets last night moaning about the biased BBC News coverage of Ed's energy - so funny to see... she even put up their complaints phone number on one...

    Didn't see the news coverage but why is it funny? Should only Tories be allowed to complain about BBC bias. Whatever you say about Polly, she knows the BBC. They respond to fear. If they fear the Tories and don't fear Labour, that's likely to influence their coverage.
  • fitalass said:

    And in the case of Nick Palmer, I think most sensible commentators would suggest they were absolutely right to do so.

    Yes, a welcome victory for common sense over all-wimmin shortlists, Thomas.

    I know from working for him at the previous election that he carries a substantial personal vote, but Anna Soubry is a formidable opponent (and is not decamping to Ken Clarke's constituency, as was once rumoured). She will benefit from incumbency, a good pr machine and minor boundary changes.

    Shadsy makes Nick 1/3 favorite. I would think he has it about right (as usual.)
  • An outpouring of hysteria and hyperbole post Tuesday crashed the server.

    Probably expended angst awaiting the final commandment from the XXXX series. Don't worry yourself dear: You take a nap....

  • fitalass said:

    And in the case of Nick Palmer, I think most sensible commentators would suggest they were absolutely right to do so.
    Indeed, seems eminently sensible to me in some cases. A Conservative website criticising Labour candidate selection is hardly a newsworthy event, except here of course.
  • "YouGov’s preferred GE2015 outcome tracker sees sharp increase in those wanting coalition"

    No doubt caused by the prospect of a red in tooth and claw socialist government in 2015.
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621

    rcs1000 said:

    Hello all,

    It's me. Last night (while I slept in Houston) our main web server ran out of disk space and ground to a halt.

    I've deleted a whole bunch temporary files to free up some space, but the problem is becoming critical, and disk space is likely to become an issue again sooner rather than later...

    Thanks, Robert

    I have never proven it yet, but....

    My lickle laptop runs a full-production of Oracle 11gR2 RDBMS, three Weblogic Server, one Glassfish, unknown Tomcats and a couple of idle RedHat JBoss servers. It is also a fully-fledged ESB/SOA environment (plus ancilliary IDEs). Disk-IO has alway been a problem for my single 7200-rpm disk but the rest of the server (Dual-Quad i7/8Gb RAM) have been twiddling in expectation.

    Now, and here is the crux: Could you not use a USB-Array as an off-line storage device?* Somewhere I have a six-point USB-hub: I have always wondered whether it could support five USD-SDD 16gb-drives. Assuming Windows OS (other grown-up systems do I assume) then could you not configure a five SDD-drive array (RAID-5) with a spare hot-spot port?

    Ofcourse it is possible to upscale (32Gb SDD would give 128Gb and still support hot-swap). As the cost of SDD is droping (whilst most top-end hardware has not) surely this is a cheap option for whatever host/proxy files you need to support...?

    * ESB 3.0
    How much space does this site use?
    Not like you're serving up big files is it?
    Get a NAS and a static IP, DNS entries etc... host it from your living room. ;-)
    While that's possible, Junior seems like a very busy chap. Outsourcing the hard work to a tribe of IT monkeys is definitely the way forward.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    An outpouring of hysteria and hyperbole post Tuesday crashed the server.

    No need for all that, Hortence.

    Just remember you left your handbag on the hall table.
  • "YouGov’s preferred GE2015 outcome tracker sees sharp increase in those wanting coalition"

    No doubt caused by the prospect of a red in tooth and claw socialist government in 2015.


    The Bankers have much to answer for, PfP.

    Through their corruption and incompetence they appear to be making Socialism fashionable again.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    rcs1000 said:

    Hello all,

    It's me. Last night (while I slept in Houston) our main web server ran out of disk space and ground to a halt.

    I've deleted a whole bunch temporary files to free up some space, but the problem is becoming critical, and disk space is likely to become an issue again sooner rather than later...

    Thanks, Robert

    I have never proven it yet, but....

    My lickle laptop runs a full-production of Oracle 11gR2 RDBMS, three Weblogic Server, one Glassfish, unknown Tomcats and a couple of idle RedHat JBoss servers. It is also a fully-fledged ESB/SOA environment (plus ancilliary IDEs). Disk-IO has alway been a problem for my single 7200-rpm disk but the rest of the server (Dual-Quad i7/8Gb RAM) have been twiddling in expectation.

    Now, and here is the crux: Could you not use a USB-Array as an off-line storage device?* Somewhere I have a six-point USB-hub: I have always wondered whether it could support five USD-SDD 16gb-drives. Assuming Windows OS (other grown-up systems do I assume) then could you not configure a five SDD-drive array (RAID-5) with a spare hot-spot port?

    Ofcourse it is possible to upscale (32Gb SDD would give 128Gb and still support hot-swap). As the cost of SDD is droping (whilst most top-end hardware has not) surely this is a cheap option for whatever host/proxy files you need to support...?

    * ESB 3.0
    Fluffy

    Wouldn't it be better just to defragment the disk?

  • Anorak said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Hello all,

    It's me. Last night (while I slept in Houston) our main web server ran out of disk space and ground to a halt.

    I've deleted a whole bunch temporary files to free up some space, but the problem is becoming critical, and disk space is likely to become an issue again sooner rather than later...

    Thanks, Robert

    I have never proven it yet, but....

    My lickle laptop runs a full-production of Oracle 11gR2 RDBMS, three Weblogic Server, one Glassfish, unknown Tomcats and a couple of idle RedHat JBoss servers. It is also a fully-fledged ESB/SOA environment (plus ancilliary IDEs). Disk-IO has alway been a problem for my single 7200-rpm disk but the rest of the server (Dual-Quad i7/8Gb RAM) have been twiddling in expectation.

    Now, and here is the crux: Could you not use a USB-Array as an off-line storage device?* Somewhere I have a six-point USB-hub: I have always wondered whether it could support five USD-SDD 16gb-drives. Assuming Windows OS (other grown-up systems do I assume) then could you not configure a five SDD-drive array (RAID-5) with a spare hot-spot port?

    Ofcourse it is possible to upscale (32Gb SDD would give 128Gb and still support hot-swap). As the cost of SDD is droping (whilst most top-end hardware has not) surely this is a cheap option for whatever host/proxy files you need to support...?

    * ESB 3.0
    How much space does this site use?
    Not like you're serving up big files is it?
    Get a NAS and a static IP, DNS entries etc... host it from your living room. ;-)
    While that's possible, Junior seems like a very busy chap. Outsourcing the hard work to a tribe of IT monkeys is definitely the way forward.
    Yeah but my way is cheaper and more fun...
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    fitalass said:
    What an interesting mix of "I don't want it to happen" and "Genuinely I don' think they'll manage it", I think.

    It's the energy price freeze "it won't happen" which is the most important, I think.
  • Anorak said:

    Well if fitalass promoting Dan Hodges' latest doesn't summon wee timmy, we may have lost him for good.

    I like to think he had an epiphany.

    - "My god, what am I doing! Is this what my life has become."
    - After a bout of uncontrolled sobbing, and a speculative glance at the gas oven, tim stumbles blinking in to the daylight. Unshaven, unwashed, unhealthy. Tears leave tracks through his grimy visage.
    - "The world, it's ... beautiful"
    - Bird tweets, squirrel bounds from tree to tree, etc.
    - Fade to black.
    I'm not sure of Tim's attitude towards squirrels (probably anti-grey, and pro-Formby reds).

    It could be he's finally flipped, and is stalking his home area bedecked in camouflage gear, hunting out the entire local cat population. He's threatened it enough in the past. ;-)

    He'll be found in nine months' time, wearing a dishevelled coat of catskin furs and muttering about how there aren't enough cats to keep him warm ...
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited September 2013
    Some (moderately) good news to cheer Robert up

    The other main ONS release this morning was Balance of Payments for Q2. As we have discussed recently, ONS monthly figures tend to be very volatile so it is better to look at Quarterly figures to identify trends.

    Measured positive progress is probably the best summary of today's figures.

    Here are the key findings:

    • The United Kingdom’s (UK) current account deficit was £13.0 billion in Quarter 2 2013, down from a revised deficit of £21.8 billion in Quarter 1 2013. The deficit in Quarter 2 2013 equated to 3.2% of GDP at current market prices, down from 5.5% in Quarter 1 2013.

    • The trade deficit narrowed to £5.5 billion in Quarter 2 2013, from £6.3 billion in Quarter 1 2013.

    • The income deficit decreased to £0.3 billion in Quarter 2 2013, from £9.2 billion in Quarter 1 2013.

    • The financial account recorded net inward investment of £0.8 billion during Quarter 2 2013.

    • The international investment position recorded UK net liabilities of £60.0 billion at the end of Quarter 2 2013.

    • In 2012, the UK’s current account deficit was £59.8 billion.

  • NormNorm Posts: 1,251
    edited September 2013


    Who saw Polly's tweets last night moaning about the biased BBC News coverage of Ed's energy - so funny to see... she even put up their complaints phone number on one...

    This is on Polly's twitter page and although not written by her sums up the mindset well.

    "Remember: every Tweet from @TimMontgomerie + other Times hacks are expressions of the #Murdochgameplan. Caveat emptor "

    Lol
  • I've got about 50% more work done this morning than usual.
  • FluffyThoughtsFluffyThoughts Posts: 2,420
    edited September 2013
    AveryLP said:

    Fluffy

    Wouldn't it be better just to defragment the disk?

    fsck? Depends which system Junior prefers....

    But, no:

    Read-write disk-heads expending time-and-energy re-organising file-allocations? I'd be surprised if the MTBF of disks have not improved since I was last working in IT field-engineering. The risk of an intermitment head-crash - and do not forget our Virus Protection programmes are performing similar routines - mean I'd prefer to be risk-averse.

    As I understand it most modern SDD drives (and HDD drives) no longer use a flat-surface head. Information from disks is now more three-dimensional. How this effects File-Allocation-Tables is a science I stopped worrying about when I discovered that Visual-Basic 4 was a quick way to write programmes (save for the MS 4.0 DataControls). Since then I have attempted, albeit with limited success, to grow-up (a little).

    The point I was trying to make was this: What is the read/write-ahead performance of a disk-drive and, potentially, could it be improved by using a USB-hub that employs SDD units (that sit in most smart-phones) to employ an OS software raid drive configuration that supports serial and not disk IO.

    As for "Defrag": It's no fun no more since the time that the UI went away (and when a 32-Colour Video-Card would really cost you...) As such I assume it works better now than the pictures it used to employ then....
  • AveryLP said:

    Fluffy

    Wouldn't it be better just to defragment the disk?

    fsck? Depends which system Junior prefers....

    But, no:

    Read-write disk-heads expending time-and-energy re-organising file-allocations? I'd be surprised if the MTBF of disks have not improved since I was last working in IT field-engineering. The risk of an intermitment head-crash - and do not forget our Virus Protection programmes are performing similar routines - mean I'd prefer to be risk-averse.

    As I understand it most modern SDD drives (and HDD drives) no longer use a flat-surface head. Information from disks is now more three-dimensional. How this effects File-Allocation-Tables is a science I stopped worrying about when I discovered that Visual-Basic 4 was a quick way to write programmes (save for the MS 4.0 DataControls). Since then I have attempted, albeit with limited success, to grow-up (a little).

    The point I was trying to make was this: What is the read/write-ahead performance of a disk-drive and, potentially, could it be improved by using a USB-hub that employs SDD units (that sit in most smart-phones) to employ an OS software raid drive configuration that supports serial and not disk IO.

    As for "Defrag": It's no fun no more since the time that the UI went away (and when a 32-Colour Video-Card would really cost you...) As such I assume it works better now than the pictures it used to employ then....
    SSD units don't have a head as they don't have a disk... Defragging is an alien concept.
  • Iain Dale accepts a caution for the events from the other day.
  • Iain Dale accepts a caution for the events from the other day.


    What did the dog get?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,787
    Will Labour's energy freeze take them above 45% in weekend polls?
  • What did the dog get?

    Released on a leash pending licence...?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    antifrank said:

    I've got about 50% more work done this morning than usual.

    But since you charge by the hour doesn't that mean you billable hours will have gone down due to your increased productivity?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Iain Dale accepts a caution for the events from the other day.


    What did the dog get?
    syphilis?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,215
    edited September 2013

    Iain Dale accepts a caution for the events from the other day.


    What did the dog get?

    That dog was awesome biting his owner several times
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Will Labour's energy freeze take them above 45% in weekend polls?

    Or will it take them below 36?? (er....fahrenheit that is)
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    GIN1138 said:

    Will Labour's energy freeze take them above 45% in weekend polls?

    I wouldn't be surprised after Osborne/bankers bonuses,Radio 5 went big on it this morning,even nicky Campbell said not much support coming in for osbornes idea ;-)


    I bet the rest of the beeb followed suit with same line of attack.

  • AveryLP said:

    Fluffy

    Wouldn't it be better just to defragment the disk?

    fsck? Depends which system Junior prefers....

    But, no:

    Read-write disk-heads expending time-and-energy re-organising file-allocations? I'd be surprised if the MTBF of disks have not improved since I was last working in IT field-engineering. The risk of an intermitment head-crash - and do not forget our Virus Protection programmes are performing similar routines - mean I'd prefer to be risk-averse.

    As I understand it most modern SDD drives (and HDD drives) no longer use a flat-surface head. Information from disks is now more three-dimensional. How this effects File-Allocation-Tables is a science I stopped worrying about when I discovered that Visual-Basic 4 was a quick way to write programmes (save for the MS 4.0 DataControls). Since then I have attempted, albeit with limited success, to grow-up (a little).

    The point I was trying to make was this: What is the read/write-ahead performance of a disk-drive and, potentially, could it be improved by using a USB-hub that employs SDD units (that sit in most smart-phones) to employ an OS software raid drive configuration that supports serial and not disk IO.

    As for "Defrag": It's no fun no more since the time that the UI went away (and when a 32-Colour Video-Card would really cost you...) As such I assume it works better now than the pictures it used to employ then....
    SSD units don't have a head as they don't have a disk... Defragging is an alien concept.
    File management on SSD is a magic art - some colleagues of mine wrote an early Flash-based filing system back in the 1990s via PCMCIA (**). Flash has limitations in the number of times any individual sector can be written to (*), so the system has to be able to reduce write operations to each sector. The TRIM command in modern OS's helps with this, along with wear levelling and others.

    I've got one of the PCMCIA cards on my desk at the moment. 4MB of Flash memory was, from memory, a couple of hundred quid.

    (*) I understand there is still a limitation, but it's much higher, in the order of over 100k write operations per sector.
    (**) Otherwise known as People Can't Memorise Computer Industry Acronyms

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,215
    edited September 2013
    If Labour don't hit 50% in the polls by the end of the month, then they might as well forget winning the 2015 general election, and focus upon winning in 2020 instead.

    Or we should remember Mike's wise words about conference polling.
  • Test:

    Conservative Business Interests!
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    Test:

    Does anyone know the Liverpool score from last night?
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    corporeal said:

    Test:

    Does anyone know the Liverpool score from last night?

    Tim's post number 9.999 ;-) or Man u v Liverpool 1 - 0

  • corporeal said:

    Test:

    Does anyone know the Liverpool score from last night?

    Behave you.

    I was at match in a stand full of Man U fans.

    It made me yearn for the times PB discussed the merits of AV over FPTP

  • corporeal said:

    Test:

    Does anyone know the Liverpool score from last night?

    Behave you.

    I was at match in a stand full of Man U fans.

    It made me yearn for the times PB discussed the merits of AV over FPTP

    Haven't you moved to the dark side now (Sheffield)?
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    MT @CPSThinkTank: 74% disagree that "there is no such thing as society", 63% agree when presented with full quote: CPSne.ws/1arazQu
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Off topic, BBG reports that Royal Mail could be worth between 2.8 and 4.3bn quid to Georgie;s election war chest.

    Is that a little more than we have been led to expect?
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    Plato said:

    MT @CPSThinkTank: 74% disagree that "there is no such thing as society", 63% agree when presented with full quote: CPSne.ws/1arazQu

    Is this the actual quote, or the quote after it was shifted around in the original publication.



  • File management on SSD is a magic art - some colleagues of mine wrote an early Flash-based filing system back in the 1990s via PCMCIA (**). Flash has limitations in the number of times any individual sector can be written to (*), so the system has to be able to reduce write operations to each sector. The TRIM command in modern OS's helps with this, along with wear levelling and others.

    I've got one of the PCMCIA cards on my desk at the moment. 4MB of Flash memory was, from memory, a couple of hundred quid.

    (*) I understand there is still a limitation, but it's much higher, in the order of over 100k write operations per sector.
    (**) Otherwise known as People Can't Memorise Computer Industry Acronyms

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM

    PCMCIA cards - an acronym too far. Not surprising it got re-branded to simply PC card!
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    I didn't realise how good Red Ed's speech must have been until I read the start of the article by a certain Mr Dan Hodges

    "There is an outside chance that Labour could still win the next election – we may yet see Ed Miliband strolling confidently up Downing Street one sunny morning in May 2015."

    This is the man who for the last two years has said repeatedly ( at least twice a week) that Ed M will never be PM.

    Astounded!
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    corporeal said:

    Test:

    Does anyone know the Liverpool score from last night?

    Behave you.

    I was at match in a stand full of Man U fans.

    It made me yearn for the times PB discussed the merits of AV over FPTP

    Don't worry mr eagles,easy 3 points on sunday ;-)

  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527

    corporeal said:

    Test:

    Does anyone know the Liverpool score from last night?

    Behave you.

    I was at match in a stand full of Man U fans.

    It made me yearn for the times PB discussed the merits of AV over FPTP

    Don't worry mr eagles,easy 3 points on sunday ;-)

    They will get tonked on Sunday - 3-0.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,888
    Polls seem to back up that it was a decent speech for Ed Miliband, though of course there is always conference bounce. With such a radically left speech the ratings could very well have dipped.

    Lib Dems back to 8% on the latest Yougov also, and labour appear to have taken them back from 9-10%. Small movements, all within MoE right after a conference speech but the 5% Best PM Movement for Red Ed is outside MoE.

    I think the mispricing in the previous thread is the probability of a CON majority at 25%. I'd put it at ~ 15% at the most. NOM and Lab majority probabilities should both be higher.
  • corporeal said:

    Test:

    Does anyone know the Liverpool score from last night?

    Behave you.

    I was at match in a stand full of Man U fans.

    It made me yearn for the times PB discussed the merits of AV over FPTP

    Haven't you moved to the dark side now (Sheffield)?
    I have but I still work in Manchester

  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527

    corporeal said:

    Test:

    Does anyone know the Liverpool score from last night?

    Behave you.

    I was at match in a stand full of Man U fans.

    It made me yearn for the times PB discussed the merits of AV over FPTP

    Did you have to stand and clap when United scrored. One of the most annoying things about sitting in the home end if your team is playing away is having to clap the opposition goals so you do not get thrown out.
  • corporeal said:

    Test:

    Does anyone know the Liverpool score from last night?

    Behave you.

    I was at match in a stand full of Man U fans.

    It made me yearn for the times PB discussed the merits of AV over FPTP

    Don't worry mr eagles,easy 3 points on sunday ;-)

    New manager always wins his first game
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    RedRag1 said:

    corporeal said:

    Test:

    Does anyone know the Liverpool score from last night?

    Behave you.

    I was at match in a stand full of Man U fans.

    It made me yearn for the times PB discussed the merits of AV over FPTP

    Don't worry mr eagles,easy 3 points on sunday ;-)

    They will get tonked on Sunday - 3-0.
    May I ask your team that you support redrag ?

  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    edited September 2013
    The original team from Merseyside. Or St Domingos as they were originally called.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    corporeal said:

    Plato said:

    MT @CPSThinkTank: 74% disagree that "there is no such thing as society", 63% agree when presented with full quote: CPSne.ws/1arazQu

    Is this the actual quote, or the quote after it was shifted around in the original publication.

    Having checked, it's the quote as published rather than as transcribed (which is a minor point for political nerds).
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527

    RedRag1 said:

    corporeal said:

    Test:

    Does anyone know the Liverpool score from last night?

    Behave you.

    I was at match in a stand full of Man U fans.

    It made me yearn for the times PB discussed the merits of AV over FPTP

    Don't worry mr eagles,easy 3 points on sunday ;-)

    They will get tonked on Sunday - 3-0.
    May I ask your team that you support redrag ?

    Quality player on your picture I may add.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    RedRag1 said:

    The original team from Merseyside.

    We have something in common,my favourite player played for your team - stuart McCall ;-)

  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    edited September 2013
    RedRag1 said:

    RedRag1 said:

    corporeal said:

    Test:

    Does anyone know the Liverpool score from last night?

    Behave you.

    I was at match in a stand full of Man U fans.

    It made me yearn for the times PB discussed the merits of AV over FPTP

    Don't worry mr eagles,easy 3 points on sunday ;-)

    They will get tonked on Sunday - 3-0.
    May I ask your team that you support redrag ?

    Quality player on your picture I may add.
    2 Goals in the cup final ;-)

  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527

    RedRag1 said:

    The original team from Merseyside.

    We have something in common,my favourite player played for your team - stuart McCall ;-)

    I was present when said player scored two goals at Wembley in an FA Cup final. If only I was as joyous at the end of the match as I was when he score his first goal in the last minute of full time.....ah, well.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited September 2013
    I haven't seen this website before - some great stuff on there

    http://pebs.group.shef.ac.uk/next-five-years



    Discussion between Macmillan, Butler, Heatcoat Amory, MacLeod and Hailsham about policies. With live interview with Selwyn Lloyd and a ‘One minute filmed commercial’ – ‘Vote Conservative’

    Broadcast 19th September 1959


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOVz3UgXqjM&feature=player_embedded
  • Interpol issues notice seeking arrest of Briton Samantha Lewthwaite at Kenya's request
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    RedRag1 said:

    RedRag1 said:

    The original team from Merseyside.

    We have something in common,my favourite player played for your team - stuart McCall ;-)

    I was present when said player scored two goals at Wembley in an FA Cup final. If only I was as joyous at the end of the match as I was when he score his first goal in the last minute of full time.....ah, well.
    Everton let McCall go to early for me.

  • Last call for Austria game

    Entries close at 7pm tomorrow:

    http://www.electiongame.co.uk/austria13/

    Many thanks,

    DC
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527

    RedRag1 said:

    RedRag1 said:

    The original team from Merseyside.

    We have something in common,my favourite player played for your team - stuart McCall ;-)

    I was present when said player scored two goals at Wembley in an FA Cup final. If only I was as joyous at the end of the match as I was when he score his first goal in the last minute of full time.....ah, well.
    Everton let McCall go to early for me.

    You read my mind. McCall just like Beardsley and Lineker is one of those players that you look back later in life and think to yourself, what the hell did Everton sell him for?
  • FluffyThoughtsFluffyThoughts Posts: 2,420
    edited September 2013

    Interpol issues notice seeking arrest of Briton Samantha Lewthwaite at Kenya's request

    Apols to those that are too young or too deaf-toned to appreciate Aylesbury's finest....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWtSKKjcx4s

    Apols to Our Tyke for clicking the wrong link too....
  • Since we're talking about football, what do pbers think about this story?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24064975

    I'm not comfortable with the sentence that he received originally, but given that he has served it and appears to be remorseful, it seems wrong to prevent him from successfully taking up a job with high pay that he would have earned on merit - that would be an additional punishment. On the other hand, football is part of the entertainment industry and clubs are entitled to say that non-footballing reasons can influence whether a potential recruit is suitable for them.

    In short, I'm not sure what I think.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,394
    "Interpol has issued an arrest notice for British 'white widow' Samantha Lewthwaite at the request of Kenya.

    The agency issued a Red Notice, or internationally wanted persons alert, following the massacre at a shopping mall in Nairobi.

    Lewthwaite, 29, is wanted by Kenya on charges of being in possession of explosives and conspiracy to commit a crime dating back to December 2011.

    Circulated to all 190 Interpol member countries, the Red Notice represents one of the agency's most powerful tools in tracking international fugitives."
    http://news.sky.com/story/1146857/kenya-white-widow-hunted-by-interpol
  • Apols to those that are too young or too deaf-toned to appreciate Aylesbury's finest....

    So here I am once more ... ;-)

  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,394
    All those millions spent by MI5 and MI6 and they couldn't even keep track of Samantha Lewthwaite.
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    antifrank said:

    Since we're talking about football, what do pbers think about this story?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24064975

    I'm not comfortable with the sentence that he received originally, but given that he has served it and appears to be remorseful, it seems wrong to prevent him from successfully taking up a job with high pay that he would have earned on merit - that would be an additional punishment. On the other hand, football is part of the entertainment industry and clubs are entitled to say that non-footballing reasons can influence whether a potential recruit is suitable for them.

    In short, I'm not sure what I think.

    He did his time, whether it was long enough is a different matter, and he has bettered life when he came out. It's like the usual argument, do you want prisoners to come out of jail, having repaid their debt to society, and find a job in which they can pay taxes, or do we just pillorise them, offer them no home with the possiblity of them going back to the way they were.

    With regards a football club taking him on, I am sure if word went round that he was good, other clubs would have taken him on. The day the majority of football clubs worried about morals(such as taking an ex-criminal on) are long gone, and the very few that do still have any are very rarely successful.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited September 2013
    RedRag1 said:

    I didn't realise how good Red Ed's speech must have been until I read the start of the article by a certain Mr Dan Hodges

    "There is an outside chance that Labour could still win the next election – we may yet see Ed Miliband strolling confidently up Downing Street one sunny morning in May 2015."

    This is the man who for the last two years has said repeatedly ( at least twice a week) that Ed M will never be PM.

    Astounded!

    Dan Hodges is using philophronesis, a rhetorical device which aims to disarm adversaries and capture their attention through the use of mild speech and the promise of a desired outcome.

    Surely you realised that, RedRag?
  • antifrank said:

    Since we're talking about football, what do pbers think about this story?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24064975

    I'm not comfortable with the sentence that he received originally, but given that he has served it and appears to be remorseful, it seems wrong to prevent him from successfully taking up a job with high pay that he would have earned on merit - that would be an additional punishment. On the other hand, football is part of the entertainment industry and clubs are entitled to say that non-footballing reasons can influence whether a potential recruit is suitable for them.

    In short, I'm not sure what I think.

    Not much to think really . Surely its for a club themselves to decide if they want him. Football has never been a upholder of morals or virtue ( I mean just look at it) . If the club decides they want to sign him , then others can protest by not going to watch that club and that is fine as well. But if the state says he has served his sentence then club free to do what it likes
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    Was PB down overnight/this morning? I tried several times this morning and got constant error messages.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Quite

    RT @IainMcNicol: npower web site made me smile. #FreezeThatBill pic.twitter.com/fKkhdFT5mr

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVGNDVxCYAAXfNt.jpg:large

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