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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,378

    I thought that saving the union was the one achievement of the snap election?? Don't tell me even that was a failure.
    Remaining in the Union still leads even after the poop show at Westminster.

    The walkout hasn’t done much.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,962

    GDPs in Trillions of USD

    US 18.57
    EU 20.9
    China 11.2

    Well, what do you know?

    Don't forget to subtract $2.5tn for the UK.
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    grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    The ConHome leaked draft, if true, is even more BRINO than May's been letting on.

    Basically this is a rule taking full Norway, slightly rebranded.
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,891
    For Big G. If you liked trump today you should like this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcPQ9gww_qc
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,962

    The ConHome leaked draft, if true, is even more BRINO than May's been letting on.

    Basically this is a rule taking full Norway, slightly rebranded.

    I don't think they are leaking the white paper. It's an alternative plan.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    GDPs in Trillions of USD

    US 18.57
    EU 20.9
    China 11.2

    Well, what do you know?

    Source please. Wiki and Google put EU at 17.2 tn
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Charles said:


    It was incorporated into the UK through a vote by the Irish Parliament.

    After acts of political, religious and economic violence by the English that made acquiescence unavoidable. The fact that a desperate Parliament had no choice but to accede to England's wishes is hardly any kind of get-out-of-jail-free card.

    Not really. It's been 20 years since I read up on Grattan and 15 years since my sojourn with Wolfe Tone so don't remember the details. But - although it was controversial - the "acts of political, religious and economic violence" you refer to simply didn't occur.

    The problem was more one of absentee landlords not paying attention to what was being done in their name.

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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,917
    RobD said:

    GDPs in Trillions of USD

    US 18.57
    EU 20.9
    China 11.2

    Well, what do you know?

    Don't forget to subtract $2.5tn for the UK.
    Russia $1.6 Tn
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,962
    Pulpstar said:

    RobD said:

    GDPs in Trillions of USD

    US 18.57
    EU 20.9
    China 11.2

    Well, what do you know?

    Don't forget to subtract $2.5tn for the UK.
    Russia $1.6 Tn
    But still willing to invade neighboring countries.
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    grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234

    GDPs in Trillions of USD

    US 18.57
    EU 20.9
    China 11.2

    Well, what do you know?

    Source please. Wiki and Google put EU at 17.2 tn
    Google. I put "GDP of the EU" in and right at the top of the page is a box that has 20.9 in it.

    In any case we're arguing about pocket money here. The EU is either the largest or is close to being the largest economy on earth. Nobody else comes close other than the US.
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    AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900

    Love him or hate him this increased spending will give a massive boost to US military sales

    Or .... it'll quietly be forgotten, and there will be no change. All NATO members are already committed to that 2%, so they could hardly refuse.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,280
    edited July 2018
    Roger said:

    For Big G. If you liked trump today you should like this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcPQ9gww_qc

    You misunderstand my comments

    I have intense dislike of Trump but that does not mean that everything he says is wrong

    Just as I have an intense dislike of Corbyn but everything he says is not wrong
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,962

    GDPs in Trillions of USD

    US 18.57
    EU 20.9
    China 11.2

    Well, what do you know?

    Source please. Wiki and Google put EU at 17.2 tn
    Google. I put "GDP of the EU" in and right at the top of the page is a box that has 20.9 in it.

    In any case we're arguing about pocket money here. The EU is either the largest or is close to being the largest economy on earth. Nobody else comes close other than the US.
    On your metric (PPP) China is highest.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,917
    Andrew said:

    Love him or hate him this increased spending will give a massive boost to US military sales

    Or .... it'll quietly be forgotten, and there will be no change. All NATO members are already committed to that 2%, so they could hardly refuse.
    Which most will continue to miss.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    GDPs in Trillions of USD

    US 18.57
    EU 20.9
    China 11.2

    Well, what do you know?

    Source please. Wiki and Google put EU at 17.2 tn
    Google. I put "GDP of the EU" in and right at the top of the page is a box that has 20.9 in it.

    In any case we're arguing about pocket money here. The EU is either the largest or is close to being the largest economy on earth. Nobody else comes close other than the US.
    You're comparing apples with oranges then.

    Under nominal GDP USA is top, under PPP China is. You can't compare one nations nominal GDP another's PPP.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,189
    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    "Europe Elects
    @EuropeElects
    52m52 minutes ago

    UK, Survation poll:

    Scottish Independence Referendum

    18-24 | YES 71%, NO 29%
    25-34 | YES 63%, NO 37%
    35-44 | YES 54%, NO 46%
    45-54 | YES 46%, NO 54%
    55-64 | YES 36%, NO 64%
    65+ | YES 31%, NO 69%

    Overall: YES 47%, NO 53%

    Field work: 05/07/18–10/07/18
    Sample size: 1,002
    #indyref2 #Brexit #ScotRef"

    Do people become more unionist as they age ?
    The idea of receiving their pensions in turnips is a powerful incentive.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,378

    NEW THREAD

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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,280
    edited July 2018
    Andrew said:

    Love him or hate him this increased spending will give a massive boost to US military sales

    Or .... it'll quietly be forgotten, and there will be no change. All NATO members are already committed to that 2%, so they could hardly refuse.
    Trump even said the US military are the best in the World and invited the members to buy it, and many will
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,986

    I thought that saving the union was the one achievement of the snap election?? Don't tell me even that was a failure.
    It obviously was not as No is still ahead
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    Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    So that EU Army isn’t looking such a bad idea now.

    Another barrier to our rejoining the EU in the next decade is being removed.

    Dura_Ace said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    If Trump wants to destroy NATO, then let him. Europe should have nothing to do with his childish games any longer.

    EDIT: I cannot, *will not* believe that his party, an overtly and explicitly atlanticist party for countless generations, will allow this to stand. But the Stockholm syndrome in the GOP runs deep nowadays.
    The trouble is that NATO survives a US withdrawal from it. It is all very well having nothing to do with things, but Europe is in a whole ocean of shit when Don's mate Vladimir has a pop at the Baltic states while the treaty subsists.
    NATO will not survive a US withdrawal. The US contribution absolutely dwarfs all the other members and it structures and processes reflect that centrality. There will eventually be a new European security framework in its stead. In the mean time learn Russian and dig a shelter.
    It survives as a legal framework with a set of treaty obligations. A US withdrawal effectively transforms it into EUTO, and Europe is going to have to find itself an army to back up its obligations to its members and allies in the Baltic.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    "Europe Elects
    @EuropeElects
    52m52 minutes ago

    UK, Survation poll:

    Scottish Independence Referendum

    18-24 | YES 71%, NO 29%
    25-34 | YES 63%, NO 37%
    35-44 | YES 54%, NO 46%
    45-54 | YES 46%, NO 54%
    55-64 | YES 36%, NO 64%
    65+ | YES 31%, NO 69%

    Overall: YES 47%, NO 53%

    Field work: 05/07/18–10/07/18
    Sample size: 1,002
    #indyref2 #Brexit #ScotRef"

    Do people become more unionist as they age ?
    They become richer as poor people die off earlier.

    Think about the Glasgow Effect cutting down swathes of yes voters in their 50s.
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