Mr. Eagles, if I didn't know someone online who has a perfect memory (literally, he remembers everything you ever say), I might be disturbed that you remember my voting record.
Surprised my voting Conservative at the last couple of General Elections didn't earn me good karma, though.
Treat it with a pinch of salt for the moment - there's a track record of such announcements only for further research to throw doubt on them. We went through the same thing with something called Recurring Slope Lineae, yet further research showed it is probably dirt moving rather than water.
Well, at least they know where to land orbiters with some Reverse Osmosis kit aboard. The only annoying thing is, that in terms of orbital mechanics, polar areas are not preferred because they lack angular momentum for the returning launch as well as the extra velocity that has to be bled off for landing.
I don’t think anyone or either side thought that the EU would be so ridiculous about NI but did anyone seriously think that leaving the CU and the SM would have no effect on administrative arrangements ?
It was going to be so easy. We held all the cards. The EU27 would be climbing over each other to offer us favourable trade deals. We'd have several trade deals done and dusted. Other countries would be following us out the door.
Brexiteer delusions came so fast and loose in those days before Reality happened.
And remainers had nothing to offer because being in the EU is sub optimal and destined to get worse, especially for countries not in the Euro. We decided. We do not want to be a small part of a European superstate. For 90% + the rest is details.
I for one have never assumed that the EU would be caving into every demand we made. If they did, we wouldn't be leaving.
I looked at the worst case scenario, (output being 4% lower by 2030 than would otherwise be the case) and concluded that was an acceptable level of risk.
I think that is perfectly fair. You voted to make the country poorer and deemed that foregone 4% was a price worth paying. If only all Leavers were so honest.
Slightly puts to bed the whole "Brexit Dividend" thing but at least there is no arguing with your position.
As I have long said, the likely outcome is a diminution of wealth that people, especially people who have a great amount of it, are unlikely to notice and hence are happy to forego.
With you mentioning that, I wondered at the scale of the impact of 4% of GDP on tax take/spending as against the claimed Brexit Dividend (looking at either £350m/wk as claimed, £240m/wk with rebate and ignoring any EU spending in the UK).
Our economy is pretty much £2 trillion per annum. Tax take is 33.2% of that, so £664bn per year, or £12.8bn per week. Four percent of that is £510 million per week.
So, if the impact is 4% of GDP, there is a Brexit Dividend. Sadly, it's negative. Amount sent to Brussels = £240 m/wk, minus £510 m/wk = -£270 million/wk.
If the impact is greater than 1.88% of GDP, the Brexit Dividend is negative. If it's less than that, it's positive. Amusingly, if the impact is as large as 4.6% of GDP, it would mean Brexit has cost us £350m/wk.
"Really? So far, the Leavers in charge seem to have managed nothing except to complain."
The last time I looked the PM was in charge of the government and civil service.
And she appointed prominent Leavers to departments to do with Leaving and they did nothing.
Ask other Eurosceptics and all we get are promises and platitudes. No concrete plans, just cherry picks and fantasies.
Fake news from BevC
DExEU came up with a white paper on a CETA++ model, which was overruled by May.
So Leavers tried, and Olly Robbin’s department and Remainers cut them up. Quelle surprise.
To be fair, CETA++ was never on the table. The EU have been very clear that we could be Norway or Canada (I suppose, at a pinch, Switzerland, even though the EU doesn't particularly like that arrangment). They don't have the flexibility for exotica like CETA++ or Norway-.
Ironically, even if he'd been found guilty in Sweden, he'd likely have been released by now, and life in a Swedish prison can hardly be worse than being cooped up in a one room flat for six years.
Well, at least they know where to land orbiters with some Reverse Osmosis kit aboard. The only annoying thing is, that in terms of orbital mechanics, polar areas are not preferred because they lack angular momentum for the returning launch as well as the extra velocity that has to be bled off for landing.
Also, they'd need to get down to it. There are drilling systems that might be able to do it (several by a brilliant US company called Honeybee, and ESA will have a drill on their ExoMars lander, albeit only down to a couple of metres).
More interesting is the fact that such a lake would be an absolute hive for life. If confirmed, I'm preparing for this to have a negative effect on plans for manned Mars landings.
Mark Reckless deserves a red hot poker up his arse*
I said that in 2014 and it still applies in 2018.
*I used stronger language than that.
Do we take it you don’t think much of him?
From the above quote, Mr Eagles appears to have rather softened on him. I'm sure it used to be: "red hot poker up the arse followed by ritual disembowelling with his Tory membership card" ...
Ironically, even if he'd been found guilty in Sweden, he'd likely have been released by now, and life in a Swedish prison can hardly be worse than being cooped up in a one room flat for six years.
To add to the irony, before he went into self-imposed captivity, most people thought it was a bit far-fetched that the US would want to extradite him. Now it looks like there is prima facie case against him based purely on what he got up whilst holed up.
Whenever the boss of Ryanair makes another pronouncement about Brexit, look behind the curtain to see what he is trying to distract you from seeing.....
It’s an amazing airline. Both the staff and passengers seem to hate it but keep coming back to it too.
It's an outstanding airline which has revolutionised passenger air travel in Europe. There are a (relatively) small number of whinging passengers who don't understand the product and seem to think that air travel makes one special.
It’s certainly shaken up the industry but I wouldn’t call it outstanding.
I think the quality of experience of flying has deteriorated over the last 20 years and I avoid flying wherever possible, Ryanair being near the bottom of my list.
And the point of Ryanair is that for most people the decrease in fares outweighs the reduced quality
Flying is expensive. Most people are willing to begrudgingly accept a couple of hours of discomfort to get to where they need to go.
It doesn’t mean the airline is loved.
Flying once with Ryanair was once too often for me.
It took me longer to get from to London with Ryanair from Italy than it does from Singapore with SQ....
I don’t think anyone or either side thought that the EU would be so ridiculous about NI but did anyone seriously think that leaving the CU and the SM would have no effect on administrative arrangements ?
It was going to be so easy. We held all the cards. The EU27 would be climbing over each other to offer us favourable trade deals. We'd have several trade deals done and dusted. Other countries would be following us out the door.
Brexiteer delusions came so fast and loose in those days before Reality happened.
And remainers had nothing to offer because being in the EU is sub optimal and destined to get worse, especially for countries not in the Euro. We decided. We do not want to be a small part of a European superstate. For 90% + the rest is details.
I for one have never assumed that the EU would be caving into every demand we made. If they did, we wouldn't be leaving.
I looked at the worst case scenario, (output being 4% lower by 2030 than would otherwise be the case) and concluded that was an acceptable level of risk.
I think that is perfectly fair. You voted to make the country poorer and deemed that foregone 4% was a price worth paying. If only all Leavers were so honest.
Slightly puts to bed the whole "Brexit Dividend" thing but at least there is no arguing with your position.
As I have long said, the likely outcome is a diminution of wealth that people, especially people who have a great amount of it, are unlikely to notice and hence are happy to forego.
With you mentioning that, I wondered at the scale of the impact of 4% of GDP on tax take/spending as against the claimed Brexit Dividend (looking at either £350m/wk as claimed, £240m/wk with rebate and ignoring any EU spending in the UK).
Our economy is pretty much £2 trillion per annum. Tax take is 33.2% of that, so £664bn per year, or £12.8bn per week. Four percent of that is £510 million per week.
So, if the impact is 4% of GDP, there is a Brexit Dividend. Sadly, it's negative. Amount sent to Brussels = £240 m/wk, minus £510 m/wk = -£270 million/wk.
If the impact is greater than 1.88% of GDP, the Brexit Dividend is negative. If it's less than that, it's positive. Amusingly, if the impact is as large as 4.6% of GDP, it would mean Brexit has cost us £350m/wk.
You and your economist-like ramblings. We don't do that kind of analysis round these parts. We just feel it will be so.
Mark Reckless deserves a red hot poker up his arse*
I said that in 2014 and it still applies in 2018.
*I used stronger language than that.
Do we take it you don’t think much of him?
From the above quote, Mr Eagles appears to have rather softened on him. I'm sure it used to be: "red hot poker up the arse followed by ritual disembowelling with his Tory membership card" ...
If I said what I really thought of Mark Reckless I’d get a permanent ban from PB.
Whenever the boss of Ryanair makes another pronouncement about Brexit, look behind the curtain to see what he is trying to distract you from seeing.....
It’s an amazing airline. Both the staff and passengers seem to hate it but keep coming back to it too.
It's an outstanding airline which has revolutionised passenger air travel in Europe. There are a (relatively) small number of whinging passengers who don't understand the product and seem to think that air travel makes one special.
It’s certainly shaken up the industry but I wouldn’t call it outstanding.
I think the quality of experience of flying has deteriorated over the last 20 years and I avoid flying wherever possible, Ryanair being near the bottom of my list.
And the point of Ryanair is that for most people the decrease in fares outweighs the reduced quality
Flying is expensive. Most people are willing to begrudgingly accept a couple of hours of discomfort to get to where they need to go.
It doesn’t mean the airline is loved.
Flying once with Ryanair was once too often for me.
It took me longer to get from to London with Ryanair from Italy than it does from Singapore with SQ....
The Ryanair staff plainly hated the passengers that were flying with them.
Easyjet is no frills, but (with one exception) I've found the staff pleasant and helpful.
O/T there's a really disturbing report in the Times about the amount of abuse that Sarah Champion is getting from apologists for child rape in Rotherham. Apparently, she now needs police protection.
I think it’s part of the reason so many were so reluctant to speak out in Rotherham for so long.
It also shows how brave she is. I have a lot of respect for her.
Well, at least they know where to land orbiters with some Reverse Osmosis kit aboard. The only annoying thing is, that in terms of orbital mechanics, polar areas are not preferred because they lack angular momentum for the returning launch as well as the extra velocity that has to be bled off for landing.
Also, they'd need to get down to it. There are drilling systems that might be able to do it (several by a brilliant US company called Honeybee, and ESA will have a drill on their ExoMars lander, albeit only down to a couple of metres).
More interesting is the fact that such a lake would be an absolute hive for life. If confirmed, I'm preparing for this to have a negative effect on plans for manned Mars landings.
Ironically, even if he'd been found guilty in Sweden, he'd likely have been released by now, and life in a Swedish prison can hardly be worse than being cooped up in a one room flat for six years.
Has gone seen The Fifth Estate? Is it worth a watch?
Ironically, even if he'd been found guilty in Sweden, he'd likely have been released by now, and life in a Swedish prison can hardly be worse than being cooped up in a one room flat for six years.
I can only imagine he feels even worse was in store for him, and felt extradition and lifelong detention in the US was a serious danger.
Perhaps he meant the 1351 Act which has a number of definitions of treason including giving adherence, comfort or aid to the King or (Queen's) enemies in his (or her) realm or elsewhere
Whenever the boss of Ryanair makes another pronouncement about Brexit, look behind the curtain to see what he is trying to distract you from seeing.....
It’s an amazing airline. Both the staff and passengers seem to hate it but keep coming back to it too.
It's an outstanding airline which has revolutionised passenger air travel in Europe. There are a (relatively) small number of whinging passengers who don't understand the product and seem to think that air travel makes one special.
It’s certainly shaken up the industry but I wouldn’t call it outstanding.
I think the quality of experience of flying has deteriorated over the last 20 years and I avoid flying wherever possible, Ryanair being near the bottom of my list.
And the point of Ryanair is that for most people the decrease in fares outweighs the reduced quality
Flying is expensive. Most people are willing to begrudgingly accept a couple of hours of discomfort to get to where they need to go.
It doesn’t mean the airline is loved.
Flying once with Ryanair was once too often for me.
It took me longer to get from to London with Ryanair from Italy than it does from Singapore with SQ....
The Ryanair staff plainly hated the passengers that were flying with them.
Easyjet is no frills, but (with one exception) I've found the staff pleasant and helpful.
It’s the seats on Ryanair that I find unpleasant. Not the staff, most of whom were courteous and helpful. And anyway, it’s not so much Ryanair I object to as Stansted.
Ironically, even if he'd been found guilty in Sweden, he'd likely have been released by now, and life in a Swedish prison can hardly be worse than being cooped up in a one room flat for six years.
Has gone seen The Fifth Estate? Is it worth a watch?
No and I usually love all things Benedict Cumberbatch.
Whenever the boss of Ryanair makes another pronouncement about Brexit, look behind the curtain to see what he is trying to distract you from seeing.....
It’s an amazing airline. Both the staff and passengers seem to hate it but keep coming back to it too.
It's an outstanding airline which has revolutionised passenger air travel in Europe. There are a (relatively) small number of whinging passengers who don't understand the product and seem to think that air travel makes one special.
It’s certainly shaken up the industry but I wouldn’t call it outstanding.
I think the quality of experience of flying has deteriorated over the last 20 years and I avoid flying wherever possible, Ryanair being near the bottom of my list.
And the point of Ryanair is that for most people the decrease in fares outweighs the reduced quality
Flying is expensive. Most people are willing to begrudgingly accept a couple of hours of discomfort to get to where they need to go.
It doesn’t mean the airline is loved.
Flying once with Ryanair was once too often for me.
It took me longer to get from to London with Ryanair from Italy than it does from Singapore with SQ....
The Ryanair staff plainly hated the passengers that were flying with them.
Easyjet is no frills, but (with one exception) I've found the staff pleasant and helpful.
It’s the seats on Ryanair that I find unpleasant. Not the staff, most of whom were courteous and helpful. And anyway, it’s not so much Ryanair I object to as Stansted.
Well, at least they know where to land orbiters with some Reverse Osmosis kit aboard. The only annoying thing is, that in terms of orbital mechanics, polar areas are not preferred because they lack angular momentum for the returning launch as well as the extra velocity that has to be bled off for landing.
Also, they'd need to get down to it. There are drilling systems that might be able to do it (several by a brilliant US company called Honeybee, and ESA will have a drill on their ExoMars lander, albeit only down to a couple of metres).
More interesting is the fact that such a lake would be an absolute hive for life. If confirmed, I'm preparing for this to have a negative effect on plans for manned Mars landings.
Whenever the boss of Ryanair makes another pronouncement about Brexit, look behind the curtain to see what he is trying to distract you from seeing.....
It’s an amazing airline. Both the staff and passengers seem to hate it but keep coming back to it too.
It's an outstanding airline which has revolutionised passenger air travel in Europe. There are a (relatively) small number of whinging passengers who don't understand the product and seem to think that air travel makes one special.
It’s certainly shaken up the industry but I wouldn’t call it outstanding.
I think the quality of experience of flying has deteriorated over the last 20 years and I avoid flying wherever possible, Ryanair being near the bottom of my list.
And the point of Ryanair is that for most people the decrease in fares outweighs the reduced quality
Flying is expensive. Most people are willing to begrudgingly accept a couple of hours of discomfort to get to where they need to go.
It doesn’t mean the airline is loved.
Flying once with Ryanair was once too often for me.
It took me longer to get from to London with Ryanair from Italy than it does from Singapore with SQ....
The Ryanair staff plainly hated the passengers that were flying with them.
Easyjet is no frills, but (with one exception) I've found the staff pleasant and helpful.
It’s the seats on Ryanair that I find unpleasant. Not the staff, most of whom were courteous and helpful. And anyway, it’s not so much Ryanair I object to as Stansted.
Stansted is a hellhole.
On the other hand, Heathrow has come on leaps and bounds in the last 10 years. Gatwick is a bit better too.
Stansted is a dealbreaker for me. It takes ages to get to from central London and is a horrible airport to use.
Ironically, even if he'd been found guilty in Sweden, he'd likely have been released by now, and life in a Swedish prison can hardly be worse than being cooped up in a one room flat for six years.
Has gone seen The Fifth Estate? Is it worth a watch?
No and I usually love all things Benedict Cumberbatch.
Whenever the boss of Ryanair makes another pronouncement about Brexit, look behind the curtain to see what he is trying to distract you from seeing.....
It’s an amazing airline. Both the staff and passengers seem to hate it but keep coming back to it too.
It's an outstanding airline which has revolutionised passenger air travel in Europe. There are a (relatively) small number of whinging passengers who don't understand the product and seem to think that air travel makes one special.
It’s certainly shaken up the industry but I wouldn’t call it outstanding.
I think the quality of experience of flying has deteriorated over the last 20 years and I avoid flying wherever possible, Ryanair being near the bottom of my list.
And the point of Ryanair is that for most people the decrease in fares outweighs the reduced quality
Flying is expensive. Most people are willing to begrudgingly accept a couple of hours of discomfort to get to where they need to go.
It doesn’t mean the airline is loved.
Flying once with Ryanair was once too often for me.
It took me longer to get from to London with Ryanair from Italy than it does from Singapore with SQ....
The Ryanair staff plainly hated the passengers that were flying with them.
Easyjet is no frills, but (with one exception) I've found the staff pleasant and helpful.
It’s the seats on Ryanair that I find unpleasant. Not the staff, most of whom were courteous and helpful. And anyway, it’s not so much Ryanair I object to as Stansted.
Stansted is a hellhole.
Run for the benefit of the retailers and possibly the airlines. Not the passengers.
Whenever the boss of Ryanair makes another pronouncement about Brexit, look behind the curtain to see what he is trying to distract you from seeing.....
It’s an amazing airline. Both the staff and passengers seem to hate it but keep coming back to it too.
It's an outstanding airline which has revolutionised passenger air travel in Europe. There are a (relatively) small number of whinging passengers who don't understand the product and seem to think that air travel makes one special.
It’s certainly shaken up the industry but I wouldn’t call it outstanding.
I think the quality of experience of flying has deteriorated over the last 20 years and I avoid flying wherever possible, Ryanair being near the bottom of my list.
And the point of Ryanair is that for most people the decrease in fares outweighs the reduced quality
Flying is expensive. Most people are willing to begrudgingly accept a couple of hours of discomfort to get to where they need to go.
It doesn’t mean the airline is loved.
Flying once with Ryanair was once too often for me.
It took me longer to get from to London with Ryanair from Italy than it does from Singapore with SQ....
The Ryanair staff plainly hated the passengers that were flying with them.
Easyjet is no frills, but (with one exception) I've found the staff pleasant and helpful.
To be fair, some of the passengers aren’t pleasant. The few Ryanair flights I’ve taken have been packed with obnoxious stag dos.
Whenever the boss of Ryanair makes another pronouncement about Brexit, look behind the curtain to see what he is trying to distract you from seeing.....
It’s an amazing airline. Both the staff and passengers seem to hate it but keep coming back to it too.
It's an outstanding airline which has revolutionised passenger air travel in Europe. There are a (relatively) small number of whinging passengers who don't understand the product and seem to think that air travel makes one special.
It’s certainly shaken up the industry but I wouldn’t call it outstanding.
I think the quality of experience of flying has deteriorated over the last 20 years and I avoid flying wherever possible, Ryanair being near the bottom of my list.
And the point of Ryanair is that for most people the decrease in fares outweighs the reduced quality
Flying is expensive. Most people are willing to begrudgingly accept a couple of hours of discomfort to get to where they need to go.
It doesn’t mean the airline is loved.
Flying once with Ryanair was once too often for me.
It took me longer to get from to London with Ryanair from Italy than it does from Singapore with SQ....
The Ryanair staff plainly hated the passengers that were flying with them.
Easyjet is no frills, but (with one exception) I've found the staff pleasant and helpful.
It’s the seats on Ryanair that I find unpleasant. Not the staff, most of whom were courteous and helpful. And anyway, it’s not so much Ryanair I object to as Stansted.
Brexiteer delusions came so fast and loose in those days before Reality happened.
And remainers had nothing to offer because being in the EU is sub optimal and destined to get worse, especially for countries not in the Euro. We decided. We do not want to be a small part of a European superstate. For 90% + the rest is details.
I for one have never assumed that the EU would be caving into every demand we made. If they did, we wouldn't be leaving.
I looked at the worst case scenario, (output being 4% lower by 2030 than would otherwise be the case) and concluded that was an acceptable level of risk.
I think that is perfectly fair. You voted to make the country poorer and deemed that foregone 4% was a price worth paying. If only all Leavers were so honest.
Slightly puts to bed the whole "Brexit Dividend" thing but at least there is no arguing with your position.
As I have long said, the likely outcome is a diminution of wealth that people, especially people who have a great amount of it, are unlikely to notice and hence are happy to forego.
With you mentioning that, I wondered at the scale of the impact of 4% of GDP on tax take/spending as against the claimed Brexit Dividend (looking at either £350m/wk as claimed, £240m/wk with rebate and ignoring any EU spending in the UK).
Our economy is pretty much £2 trillion per annum. Tax take is 33.2% of that, so £664bn per year, or £12.8bn per week. Four percent of that is £510 million per week.
So, if the impact is 4% of GDP, there is a Brexit Dividend. Sadly, it's negative. Amount sent to Brussels = £240 m/wk, minus £510 m/wk = -£270 million/wk.
If the impact is greater than 1.88% of GDP, the Brexit Dividend is negative. If it's less than that, it's positive. Amusingly, if the impact is as large as 4.6% of GDP, it would mean Brexit has cost us £350m/wk.
The 4% figure (if from the IMF) is that the economy will be 4% smaller than if we had stayed in the EU after 12 years. This means we would lose basically 0.3% of growth from trend annually to end up after 12 years at the 4% figure.
So using your figures of a £2tril economy losing 0.3% means losing £6 billion so at a tax take of 33.2% is £1.992bill in lost taxes or 38.3 million per week. Brexit bonus of 240 - 38.3 = £201.7 more per week.
Whenever the boss of Ryanair makes another pronouncement about Brexit, look behind the curtain to see what he is trying to distract you from seeing.....
It’s an amazing airline. Both the staff and passengers seem to hate it but keep coming back to it too.
It's an outstanding airline which has revolutionised passenger air travel in Europe. There are a (relatively) small number of whinging passengers who don't understand the product and seem to think that air travel makes one special.
It’s certainly shaken up the industry but I wouldn’t call it outstanding.
I think the quality of experience of flying has deteriorated over the last 20 years and I avoid flying wherever possible, Ryanair being near the bottom of my list.
And the point of Ryanair is that for most people the decrease in fares outweighs the reduced quality
Flying is expensive. Most people are willing to begrudgingly accept a couple of hours of discomfort to get to where they need to go.
It doesn’t mean the airline is loved.
Flying once with Ryanair was once too often for me.
It took me longer to get from to London with Ryanair from Italy than it does from Singapore with SQ....
The Ryanair staff plainly hated the passengers that were flying with them.
Easyjet is no frills, but (with one exception) I've found the staff pleasant and helpful.
To be fair, some of the passengers aren’t pleasant. The few Ryanair flights I’ve taken have been packed with obnoxious stag dos.
Flew to Treviso a couple of years ago. There were some very burly young men, in tracksuits in the queue, all looked quite tough, yet familiar. Once on board there was a loud cheer and chant, wondered if things were about to kick off, but nothing more was heard from them. Guess that Ryanair would make it hard for Treviso RFC players to get to matches by other means in Wales, or West of England if they misbehaved.
Was in court on July 12, according to Peterborough's local rag.
Reporting restrictions? Or simply no reporters? It was in Westminster Magistrates' Court, which is curious, but the alleged offence was in Cambridgeshire.
Brexiteer delusions came so fast and loose in those days before Reality happened.
And remainers had nothing to offer because being in the EU is sub optimal and destined to get worse, especially for countries not in the Euro. We decided. We do not want to be a small part of a European superstate. For 90% + the rest is details.
I for one have never assumed that the EU would be caving into every demand we made. If they did, we wouldn't be leaving.
I looked at the worst case scenario, (output being 4% lower by 2030 than would otherwise be the case) and concluded that was an acceptable level of risk.
I think that is perfectly fair. You voted to make the country poorer and deemed that foregone 4% was a price worth paying. If only all Leavers were so honest.
Slightly puts to bed the whole "Brexit Dividend" thing but at least there is no arguing with your position.
As I have long said, the likely outcome is a diminution of wealth that people, especially people who have a great amount of it, are unlikely to notice and hence are happy to forego.
With you mentioning that, I wondered at the scale of the impact of 4% of GDP on tax take/spending as against the claimed Brexit Dividend (looking at either £350m/wk as claimed, £240m/wk with rebate and ignoring any EU spending in the UK).
Our economy is pretty much £2 trillion per annum. Tax take is 33.2% of that, so £664bn per year, or £12.8bn per week. Four percent of that is £510 million per week.
So, if the impact is 4% of GDP, there is a Brexit Dividend. Sadly, it's negative. Amount sent to Brussels = £240 m/wk, minus £510 m/wk = -£270 million/wk.
If the impact is greater than 1.88% of GDP, the Brexit Dividend is negative. If it's less than that, it's positive. Amusingly, if the impact is as large as 4.6% of GDP, it would mean Brexit has cost us £350m/wk.
The 4% figure (if from the IMF) is that the economy will be 4% smaller than if we had stayed in the EU after 12 years. This means we would lose basically 0.3% of growth from trend annually to end up after 12 years at the 4% figure.
So using your figures of a £2tril economy losing 0.3% means losing £6 billion so at a tax take of 33.2% is £1.992bill in lost taxes or 38.3 million per week. Brexit bonus of 240 - 38.3 = £201.7 more per week.
Don't forget people / businesses have to pay duties on imports from the EU which they did not have to before. Plus some loss of exports because duties will have to be paid by EU importers.
Whenever the boss of Ryanair makes another pronouncement about Brexit, look behind the curtain to see what he is trying to distract you from seeing.....
It’s an amazing airline. Both the staff and passengers seem to hate it but keep coming back to it too.
It's an outstanding airline which has revolutionised passenger air travel in Europe. There are a (relatively) small number of whinging passengers who don't understand the product and seem to think that air travel makes one special.
It’s certainly shaken up the industry but I wouldn’t call it outstanding.
I think the quality of experience of flying has deteriorated over the last 20 years and I avoid flying wherever possible, Ryanair being near the bottom of my list.
And the point of Ryanair is that for most people the decrease in fares outweighs the reduced quality
Flying is expensive. Most people are willing to begrudgingly accept a couple of hours of discomfort to get to where they need to go.
It doesn’t mean the airline is loved.
Flying once with Ryanair was once too often for me.
It took me longer to get from to London with Ryanair from Italy than it does from Singapore with SQ....
The Ryanair staff plainly hated the passengers that were flying with them.
Easyjet is no frills, but (with one exception) I've found the staff pleasant and helpful.
It’s the seats on Ryanair that I find unpleasant. Not the staff, most of whom were courteous and helpful. And anyway, it’s not so much Ryanair I object to as Stansted.
Stansted is a hellhole.
It was much better back in the days when they dealt with just one airplane at a time.
Whenever the boss of Ryanair makes another pronouncement about Brexit, look behind the curtain to see what he is trying to distract you from seeing.....
It’s an amazing airline. Both the staff and passengers seem to hate it but keep coming back to it too.
It's an outstanding airline which has revolutionised passenger air travel in Europe. There are a (relatively) small number of whinging passengers who don't understand the product and seem to think that air travel makes one special.
It’s certainly shaken up the industry but I wouldn’t call it outstanding.
I think the quality of experience of flying has deteriorated over the last 20 years and I avoid flying wherever possible, Ryanair being near the bottom of my list.
And the point of Ryanair is that for most people the decrease in fares outweighs the reduced quality
Flying is expensive. Most people are willing to begrudgingly accept a couple of hours of discomfort to get to where they need to go.
It doesn’t mean the airline is loved.
Flying once with Ryanair was once too often for me.
It took me longer to get from to London with Ryanair from Italy than it does from Singapore with SQ....
The Ryanair staff plainly hated the passengers that were flying with them.
Easyjet is no frills, but (with one exception) I've found the staff pleasant and helpful.
It’s the seats on Ryanair that I find unpleasant. Not the staff, most of whom were courteous and helpful. And anyway, it’s not so much Ryanair I object to as Stansted.
Stansted is a hellhole.
It was much better back in the days when they dealt with just one airplane at a time.
Airports are always lovely on the first day they open.
Keir Starmer has set a number of "tests" for Labour to support any deal.
1. Does it ensure a strong and collaborative future relationship with the EU? 2. Does it deliver the “exact same benefits” as we currently have as members of the Single Market and Customs Union? 3. Does it ensure the fair management of migration in the interests of the economy and communities? 4. Does it defend rights and protections and prevent a race to the bottom? 5. Does it protect national security and our capacity to tackle cross-border crime? 6. Does it deliver for all regions and nations of the UK?
As currently proposed, Chequers meets (arguably) 0/6 of those tests.
We'll be calling him Gordon Starmer before long (especially since 2 is literally undeliverable).
Smart move, wasn't it? Keir Starmer was well aware of the fact Labour would need intellectual cover for voting against the government's deal, so he drew up the tests in such a way as to sound reasonable whilst actually being impossible.
He seems to be a decent politician, unlike some colleagues. Which is not the same thing as being reasonable of course, but as you note it is closer to sounding reasonable.
In truth they wouldn't support anything. They need to be able to claim they could have done better, even as Corbyn's 'masterly inactivity' strategy makes that a lie .
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Mr. Sandpit, actually, I did that already. Surprised he was 4.33 for the win. Still is.
https://twitter.com/WikiGuido/status/1022127633398726656
"Is Mark Reckless about to re-defect back to UKIP?"
My man of the year? Nay, my man of the century! You can't blame him for having no mental agility. The very antithesis of Jezza.
DExEU came up with a white paper on a CETA++ model, which was overruled by May.
So Leavers tried, and Olly Robbin’s department and Remainers cut them up. Quelle surprise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_flows_on_warm_Martian_slopes#Recurrent_slope_lineae_near_equator
Our economy is pretty much £2 trillion per annum. Tax take is 33.2% of that, so £664bn per year, or £12.8bn per week. Four percent of that is £510 million per week.
So, if the impact is 4% of GDP, there is a Brexit Dividend. Sadly, it's negative.
Amount sent to Brussels = £240 m/wk, minus £510 m/wk = -£270 million/wk.
If the impact is greater than 1.88% of GDP, the Brexit Dividend is negative. If it's less than that, it's positive. Amusingly, if the impact is as large as 4.6% of GDP, it would mean Brexit has cost us £350m/wk.
I said that in 2014 and it still applies in 2018.
*I used stronger language than that.
So he sat with the Tory grouping.
He must be getting dizzy from the oscillations.
More interesting is the fact that such a lake would be an absolute hive for life. If confirmed, I'm preparing for this to have a negative effect on plans for manned Mars landings.
https://www.honeybeerobotics.com/technology/drilling/
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/516375124027899904?s=21
Because it would not work (Norn Iron borders)
No french please, we're British
Ditto about his fellow shithead Carswell.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-39877392
Easyjet is no frills, but (with one exception) I've found the staff pleasant and helpful.
It also shows how brave she is. I have a lot of respect for her.
A bit of digging
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/aep/Edw3Stat5/25/2/contents
It's no longer in force though!
@EuropeElects
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UK, ICM poll:
LAB-S&D: 41% (+2)
CON-ECR: 40% (-1)
LDEM-ALDE: 8% (-1)
UKIP-EFDD: 5% (+1)
Greens-G/EFA: 3%
Field work: 20/07/18 – 22/07/18
Sample size: 2,010"
And anyway, it’s not so much Ryanair I object to as Stansted.
https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2013/pdf/2817.pdf
https://www.popsci.com/drill-tunnel-mars-alien-life
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1022108020778647554
Stansted is a dealbreaker for me. It takes ages to get to from central London and is a horrible airport to use.
OTOH Patrick Melrose is fantastic.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/977935577919213568
Hopefully snitches don’t get stitches.
Not sure UKIP are going up anywhere, except possibly in smoke!
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/19/mark-reckless-immigration-row-rochester-byelection
https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/peterborough-labour-mp-fiona-onasanya-charged-with-perverting-the-course-of-justice-1-8579707
Don’t worry Fiona [Surname is a nightmare with auto-correct] is a solicitor
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In truth they wouldn't support anything. They need to be able to claim they could have done better, even as Corbyn's 'masterly inactivity' strategy makes that a lie .