I’m beginning to think that there must be some part of the process of signing up to be a member of a political party which leads to atrophy of any sort of critical faculty. When you give members the opportunity to elect themselves a leader, it appears that they look around and say to themselves “Hmmm! Who’s manifestly incapable of providing any sort of sensible political programme? And better still, can they be relied on to espouse ideas that many people find abhorrent? Yes! That’s the one for us!”
I can think of no other explanation for Corbyn on the one hand, the fact that all these member polls seem to suggest that there is serious consideration being given either to Rees Mogg or Johnson, the succession of lunatics that have been through the UKIP revolving door in dizzying succession, and the only saving grace I can see for Cable is that he appears to be dead.
Time for an update of Charles Mackay’s “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds”, I think.
Absolutely pouring down at Lord’s now, only 20 minutes after they were about to come out again. Draw now in to 1.71, which is crap having laid before the start yesterday at 3.7. Cashing out now for being silly enough to think I could trust a weather forecast. Grr...
"pronation". Good word I haven't come across before.
Whenever you go to a specialist running shop they watch you run down the road, tell you that you pronate, and seemingly pick the nearest set of trainers off the shelf and say here you need these.
Right. Not done that for a while. Clearly missing out.
Depends on your weekly mileage.
I think I average nearly 500 miles a week. A very high percentage of which are by car.
With high mileage like that you'll need the most expensive shoes to deal with your pronation on the accelerator.
Cruise control?
The work of the devil. Never use it. It's hard enough to keep paying attention on motorways without encouraging yourself to switch off even more. It's a good example of why the idea of a human monitoring a self driving car for emergencies just isn't going to work.
Cruise control is fanatastic until the traffic density reaches a certain level - and using it requires paying rather more attention to traffic movements that when you’re not.
Porsche ACC slows the car down (to halt if necessary) if there is traffic ahead. You can't set it at more than 130mph though (I've tried on that bit of the M40 where there is nowhere for the cops to hide).
I wondered who that lunatic was a couple of months back....
The A3/A303 used to be bedlam as all the London types made their way down to and through the khaki triangle at 0-f*ck hundred hours in the morning.
Company I used to work for had one office in Salisbury and another at Sunbury Cross at the top of the M3, which of course resulted in the unofficial time trial among a bunch of us who were too young and stupid to think that it wouldn’t end with most of us having a meeting at Basingstoke magistrates over the course of a couple of years...
Ha! For cadets there, it was gates of RMA Sandhurst to Marble Arch.
Ooh, that’s a good one, a decent choice of routes too. So did you go M3, M4 or the shortest route bombing past all the nice houses straight up the A30?
Everyone was acting in self defence and no one wanted trouble. The two gay guys seem to have been put there to let all the defendants illustrate their exemplary diversity mindsets.
Am I right that no one has actually called them? Seems surprising.
Absolutely pouring down at Lord’s now, only 20 minutes after they were about to come out again. Draw now in to 1.71, which is crap having laid before the start yesterday at 3.7. Cashing out now for being silly enough to think I could trust a weather forecast. Grr...
I’m beginning to think that there must be some part of the process of signing up to be a member of a political party which leads to atrophy of any sort of critical faculty. When you give members the opportunity to elect themselves a leader, it appears that they look around and say to themselves “Hmmm! Who’s manifestly incapable of providing any sort of sensible political programme? And better still, can they be relied on to espouse ideas that many people find abhorrent? Yes! That’s the one for us!”
I can think of no other explanation for Corbyn on the one hand, the fact that all these member polls seem to suggest that there is serious consideration being given either to Rees Mogg or Johnson, the succession of lunatics that have been through the UKIP revolving door in dizzying succession, and the only saving grace I can see for Cable is that he appears to be dead.
Time for an update of Charles Mackay’s “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds”, I think.
You may not agree with the tone or the jokes, but we have a thing called freedom of speech in this country,” Duncan Smith told the BBc Radio 4’s Today programme. “And I don’t believe that just because somebody takes offence that means that therefore there has to be an inquiry which means that the individual can be shut down in terms of their ability to say what they believe."
I’m beginning to think that there must be some part of the process of signing up to be a member of a political party which leads to atrophy of any sort of critical faculty. When you give members the opportunity to elect themselves a leader, it appears that they look around and say to themselves “Hmmm! Who’s manifestly incapable of providing any sort of sensible political programme? And better still, can they be relied on to espouse ideas that many people find abhorrent? Yes! That’s the one for us!”
I can think of no other explanation for Corbyn on the one hand, the fact that all these member polls seem to suggest that there is serious consideration being given either to Rees Mogg or Johnson, the succession of lunatics that have been through the UKIP revolving door in dizzying succession, and the only saving grace I can see for Cable is that he appears to be dead.
Time for an update of Charles Mackay’s “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds”, I think.
Absolutely pouring down at Lord’s now, only 20 minutes after they were about to come out again. Draw now in to 1.71, which is crap having laid before the start yesterday at 3.7. Cashing out now for being silly enough to think I could trust a weather forecast. Grr...
I misread the last three letters as Gin!
Now there’s a good idea! Much more fun than watching the St John’s Wood cloudburst.
Absolutely pouring down at Lord’s now, only 20 minutes after they were about to come out again. Draw now in to 1.71, which is crap having laid before the start yesterday at 3.7. Cashing out now for being silly enough to think I could trust a weather forecast. Grr...
Yes it's been an annoying test match for sure. How is the forecast looking for tommorow ? England might still win, given the Indian batting thus far - but yes I'm out too for the loss of a fiver also.
I'm not seeing any evidence of a slowdown there. Q4 growth has been the highest quarter in each year for the last 3 years, so it seems comparing apples and oranges to contrast H1 to H2 rather than H1 last year.
I think the ONS is feeling rather exposed at being, er, a bit crap.....
Apparently 67% of people believe ONS figures are total bollocks.
33% didn't know who the ONS were.
0.17% thought they could be trusted.
I don't know how we can take GDP figures seriously when they include things like the trade in illegal drugs.
Edit thought better of that suggestion as to how turnover in the drugs trade might be monitored. Nothing to do with HSBC turnover, nothing at all.
"pronation". Good word I haven't come across before.
Whenever you go to a specialist running shop they watch you run down the road, tell you that you pronate, and seemingly pick the nearest set of trainers off the shelf and say here you need these.
Right. Not done that for a while. Clearly missing out.
Depends on your weekly mileage.
I think I average nearly 500 miles a week. A very high percentage of which are by car.
With high mileage like that you'll need the most expensive shoes to deal with your pronation on the accelerator.
Cruise control?
The work of the devil. Never use it. It's hard enough to keep paying attention on motorways without encouraging yourself to switch off even more. It's a good example of why the idea of a human monitoring a self driving car for emergencies just isn't going to work.
Cruise control is fanatastic until the traffic density reaches a certain level - and using it requires paying rather more attention to traffic movements that when you’re not.
Porsche ACC slows the car down (to halt if necessary) if there is traffic ahead. You can't set it at more than 130mph though (I've tried on that bit of the M40 where there is nowhere for the cops to hide).
I wondered who that lunatic was a couple of months back....
The A3/A303 used to be bedlam as all the London types made their way down to and through the khaki triangle at 0-f*ck hundred hours in the morning.
Company I used to work for had one office in Salisbury and another at Sunbury Cross at the top of the M3, which of course resulted in the unofficial time trial among a bunch of us who were too young and stupid to think that it wouldn’t end with most of us having a meeting at Basingstoke magistrates over the course of a couple of years...
Ha! For cadets there, it was gates of RMA Sandhurst to Marble Arch.
Ooh, that’s a good one, a decent choice of routes too. So did you go M3, M4 or the shortest route bombing past all the nice houses straight up the A30?
M4, A316, Hammersmith flyover, Knightsbridge, and up Park Lane.
Absolutely pouring down at Lord’s now, only 20 minutes after they were about to come out again. Draw now in to 1.71, which is crap having laid before the start yesterday at 3.7. Cashing out now for being silly enough to think I could trust a weather forecast. Grr...
I misread the last three letters as Gin!
Now there’s a good idea! Much more fun than watching the St John’s Wood cloudburst.
That’s what I thought. There’s an excellent gin shop in our small town, and my wife was given a bottle of rhubarb and ginger gin for her recent birthday.
Love the fact that our 2nd quarter GDP is twice as good as France. If Britain's economy is supposedly in a bad place according to the FBPE lot then France must be on red alert.
Tbh, it is on red alert. I wouldn't be surprised to see France grow at under 1% this year. There aren't many signs that it's picking up there.
I'm a bit more optimistic than you. The private sector in France is growing quite well, it's just there is a major squeeze on public sector enterprises.
I've never done badly by being bearish on the French economy. It always finds a way to disappoint.
That was true of the UK economy until Mrs Thatcher reformed the labour market.
Everyone was acting in self defence and no one wanted trouble. The two gay guys seem to have been put there to let all the defendants illustrate their exemplary diversity mindsets.
Am I right that no one has actually called them? Seems surprising.
Is "he was defending my honour" something the defence would want or be able to use if that person then went on to smack the person doing the defaming?
Absolutely pouring down at Lord’s now, only 20 minutes after they were about to come out again. Draw now in to 1.71, which is crap having laid before the start yesterday at 3.7. Cashing out now for being silly enough to think I could trust a weather forecast. Grr...
Yes it's been an annoying test match for sure. How is the forecast looking for tommorow ? England might still win, given the Indian batting thus far - but yes I'm out too for the loss of a fiver also.
BBC now reckon okay tomorrow but more rain Sunday. It said yesterday that today would be fine, so you can guess how much I trust it.
I can think of no other explanation for Corbyn on the one hand, the fact that all these member polls seem to suggest that there is serious consideration being given either to Rees Mogg or Johnson, the succession of lunatics that have been through the UKIP revolving door in dizzying succession, and the only saving grace I can see for Cable is that he appears to be dead.
Time for an update of Charles Mackay’s “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds”, I think.
If we'd been given a choice of candidates there's no way that we'd have elected Vince Cable as leader. Many of us had completely ruled him out of consideration.
Curiously just talking to my Hampshire plumber (based in Basingstoke)....work coming out of his ears.
(His view on Brexit, by the way, is "just get on with it now". This seems to be a pretty general consensus amongst people i meet of all descriptions).
I'd be surprised if plumbers were ever short of work during school holidays or indeed any other time.
As for his views on "Brexit", it just goes to show how impatient and ignorant some people are. There was and is a prescribed process - we couldn't leave on June 24th 2016 even if people thought we could and should. The earliest we could have left is June 24th this year if Cameron had invoked A50 the day after the Referendum (which I suppose he could have done if he had made any plans for a victory for LEAVE).
We won't be leaving on March 29th 2019 either - we will be effectively members of the EU until December 31st 2020. Those who advocate this nonsensical "get on with it" approach need to have a word with Theresa May about the process and the length of time it's taking and the necessity of a transition period.
That's not actually true. If we'd gone straight to an "off the shelf" arrangement, like EFTA/EEA, then it could have happened faster. Or, if we'd decided we wanted to leave without a deal or any preparation, we could simply have repealed the European Communities Act.
Everyone was acting in self defence and no one wanted trouble. The two gay guys seem to have been put there to let all the defendants illustrate their exemplary diversity mindsets.
Am I right that no one has actually called them? Seems surprising.
Is "he was defending my honour" something the defence would want or be able to use if that person then went on to smack the person doing the defaming?
Stokes has been accused of taking the piss out of them. He claims that they were being abused by the 2 he ended up punching and that his “self defence” related not only to himself but to them. It would have been interesting to hear what they thought. Them backing Stokes up right now seems to be his best chance but admitting his memory has blanks, possibly related to the amount of drink, without that support is not a good look.
Everyone was acting in self defence and no one wanted trouble. The two gay guys seem to have been put there to let all the defendants illustrate their exemplary diversity mindsets.
Am I right that no one has actually called them? Seems surprising.
Is "he was defending my honour" something the defence would want or be able to use if that person then went on to smack the person doing the defaming?
Stokes has been accused of taking the piss out of them. He claims that they were being abused by the 2 he ended up punching and that his “self defence” related not only to himself but to them. It would have been interesting to hear what they thought. Them backing Stokes up right now seems to be his best chance but admitting his memory has blanks, possibly related to the amount of drink, without that support is not a good look.
Yes his defence seems to be almost proprietorial towards them "don't you be insulting *my* gays".
It's 99%/1% in favour of the asteroid. Hardly a controversy. Would be great to see it overturned though, just for the lols!...
I don't think it anywhere near as clearcut.
The evidence for the Chicxulub impact is, of course, overwhelming - but equally, so is that of the almost unimaginably massive Deccan vulcanism around that event, which lasted several hundred thousand years.
What is far from clear is the precise timing of the mass extinctions around the two, as it's very far from a trivial (or settled) matter to narrow parse the geological record from 65 million years ago to within a hundred years (which the Chicxulub hypothesis requires), as opposed to tens or hundreds of thousands.
I think the evidence points to a very rapid extinction event on land and sea. I do get the point that rapid to a geologist has a very difference meaning to you or I, but my understanding is that it was sharper and more immediately global that the more gradual vulcanism of the Deccan flats. Even if we make the alternatives 5 times more likely than my original guess its still 95/5.
Everyone was acting in self defence and no one wanted trouble. The two gay guys seem to have been put there to let all the defendants illustrate their exemplary diversity mindsets.
Am I right that no one has actually called them? Seems surprising.
Is "he was defending my honour" something the defence would want or be able to use if that person then went on to smack the person doing the defaming?
Stokes has been accused of taking the piss out of them. He claims that they were being abused by the 2 he ended up punching and that his “self defence” related not only to himself but to them. It would have been interesting to hear what they thought. Them backing Stokes up right now seems to be his best chance but admitting his memory has blanks, possibly related to the amount of drink, without that support is not a good look.
Yes his defence seems to be almost proprietorial towards them "don't you be insulting *my* gays".
Not a great look either.
They backed him up before the trial – I expect they will soon make a court appearance
It's 99%/1% in favour of the asteroid. Hardly a controversy. Would be great to see it overturned though, just for the lols!...
I don't think it anywhere near as clearcut.
The evidence for the Chicxulub impact is, of course, overwhelming - but equally, so is that of the almost unimaginably massive Deccan vulcanism around that event, which lasted several hundred thousand years.
What is far from clear is the precise timing of the mass extinctions around the two, as it's very far from a trivial (or settled) matter to narrow parse the geological record from 65 million years ago to within a hundred years (which the Chicxulub hypothesis requires), as opposed to tens or hundreds of thousands.
I think the evidence points to a very rapid extinction event on land and sea. I do get the point that rapid to a geologist has a very difference meaning to you or I, but my understanding is that it was sharper and more immediately global that the more gradual vulcanism of the Deccan flats. Even if we make the alternatives 5 times more likely than my original guess its still 95/5.
I'd like to hear more about the near-death experience with the tiger in Belize, not least what the tiger was doing so far from home.
I wonder when the left are going to realise the more they moan about Boris and Burkas the more popular they're making him.
There is a good deal of moaning about him from the right, which might of course be deliberate. I find the best strategy with the odious Johnson is to ignore him.
It's 99%/1% in favour of the asteroid. Hardly a controversy. Would be great to see it overturned though, just for the lols!...
I don't think it anywhere near as clearcut.
The evidence for the Chicxulub impact is, of course, overwhelming - but equally, so is that of the almost unimaginably massive Deccan vulcanism around that event, which lasted several hundred thousand years.
What is far from clear is the precise timing of the mass extinctions around the two, as it's very far from a trivial (or settled) matter to narrow parse the geological record from 65 million years ago to within a hundred years (which the Chicxulub hypothesis requires), as opposed to tens or hundreds of thousands.
I think the evidence points to a very rapid extinction event on land and sea. I do get the point that rapid to a geologist has a very difference meaning to you or I, but my understanding is that it was sharper and more immediately global that the more gradual vulcanism of the Deccan flats. Even if we make the alternatives 5 times more likely than my original guess its still 95/5.
I'd like to hear more about the near-death experience with the tiger in Belize, not least what the tiger was doing so far from home.
I thought the boy made it all up to stop going mad when his mother was decapitated.
I wonder when the left are going to realise the more they moan about Boris and Burkas the more popular they're making him.
Most of the moaning seems to be from other Tories.
If he wants to follow Farage into the Shock Jock business then he should carry on, but if he wants a sensible discussion of Niqab, then perhaps avoiding gratuitous insults might help.
"After the abysmal May/Hammond interlude is over, hopefully some time between October 2018 — July 2019, its replacement will need to change course on almost every front from the NHS to how SW1 pours billions into the greedy paws of corporate looters via its appallingly managed >£200 BILLION annual contracting/procurement budget "
Everyone was acting in self defence and no one wanted trouble. The two gay guys seem to have been put there to let all the defendants illustrate their exemplary diversity mindsets.
Am I right that no one has actually called them? Seems surprising.
Is "he was defending my honour" something the defence would want or be able to use if that person then went on to smack the person doing the defaming?
Stokes has been accused of taking the piss out of them. He claims that they were being abused by the 2 he ended up punching and that his “self defence” related not only to himself but to them. It would have been interesting to hear what they thought. Them backing Stokes up right now seems to be his best chance but admitting his memory has blanks, possibly related to the amount of drink, without that support is not a good look.
Yes his defence seems to be almost proprietorial towards them "don't you be insulting *my* gays".
Not a great look either.
They backed him up before the trial – I expect they will soon make a court appearance
"After the abysmal May/Hammond interlude is over, hopefully some time between October 2018 — July 2019, its replacement will need to change course on almost every front from the NHS to how SW1 pours billions into the greedy paws of corporate looters via its appallingly managed >£200 BILLION annual contracting/procurement budget "
As always, it's like reading an early draft of a Unabomber manifesto.
Everyone was acting in self defence and no one wanted trouble. The two gay guys seem to have been put there to let all the defendants illustrate their exemplary diversity mindsets.
Am I right that no one has actually called them? Seems surprising.
Is "he was defending my honour" something the defence would want or be able to use if that person then went on to smack the person doing the defaming?
Stokes has been accused of taking the piss out of them. He claims that they were being abused by the 2 he ended up punching and that his “self defence” related not only to himself but to them. It would have been interesting to hear what they thought. Them backing Stokes up right now seems to be his best chance but admitting his memory has blanks, possibly related to the amount of drink, without that support is not a good look.
Yes his defence seems to be almost proprietorial towards them "don't you be insulting *my* gays".
Not a great look either.
They backed him up before the trial – I expect they will soon make a court appearance
"After the abysmal May/Hammond interlude is over, hopefully some time between October 2018 — July 2019, its replacement will need to change course on almost every front from the NHS to how SW1 pours billions into the greedy paws of corporate looters via its appallingly managed >£200 BILLION annual contracting/procurement budget "
As always, it's like reading an early draft of a Unabomber manifesto.
I forgot when I talked about great TV there was a fantastic series on the Unabomber. Netflix I think. With Paul Bettany.
Everyone was acting in self defence and no one wanted trouble. The two gay guys seem to have been put there to let all the defendants illustrate their exemplary diversity mindsets.
Am I right that no one has actually called them? Seems surprising.
Is "he was defending my honour" something the defence would want or be able to use if that person then went on to smack the person doing the defaming?
Stokes has been accused of taking the piss out of them. He claims that they were being abused by the 2 he ended up punching and that his “self defence” related not only to himself but to them. It would have been interesting to hear what they thought. Them backing Stokes up right now seems to be his best chance but admitting his memory has blanks, possibly related to the amount of drink, without that support is not a good look.
Yes his defence seems to be almost proprietorial towards them "don't you be insulting *my* gays".
Not a great look either.
They backed him up before the trial – I expect they will soon make a court appearance
"After the abysmal May/Hammond interlude is over, hopefully some time between October 2018 — July 2019, its replacement will need to change course on almost every front from the NHS to how SW1 pours billions into the greedy paws of corporate looters via its appallingly managed >£200 BILLION annual contracting/procurement budget "
As always, it's like reading an early draft of a Unabomber manifesto.
Both May and Corbyn have made clear there won't be a second one and neither has any interest in changing that position. Only May could be replaced before Brexit and it won't be in favour of someone more Remainey.
Everyone was acting in self defence and no one wanted trouble. The two gay guys seem to have been put there to let all the defendants illustrate their exemplary diversity mindsets.
Am I right that no one has actually called them? Seems surprising.
Is "he was defending my honour" something the defence would want or be able to use if that person then went on to smack the person doing the defaming?
Stokes has been accused of taking the piss out of them. He claims that they were being abused by the 2 he ended up punching and that his “self defence” related not only to himself but to them. It would have been interesting to hear what they thought. Them backing Stokes up right now seems to be his best chance but admitting his memory has blanks, possibly related to the amount of drink, without that support is not a good look.
Yes his defence seems to be almost proprietorial towards them "don't you be insulting *my* gays".
Not a great look either.
They backed him up before the trial – I expect they will soon make a court appearance
The direction of travel of support for a second referendum indicates a pent-up demand to rethink that probably isn't being fully reflected in the top-line Leave/Remain figures due to the taboo about contracting the will of the people.
Both May and Corbyn have made clear there won't be a second one and neither has any interest in changing that position. Only May could be replaced before Brexit and it won't be in favour of someone more Remainey.
May has a clear interest in creating conditions where she were compelled to call a second referendum, and her party were compelled to support it. That way she can stay in power.
Both May and Corbyn have made clear there won't be a second one and neither has any interest in changing that position. Only May could be replaced before Brexit and it won't be in favour of someone more Remainey.
May has a clear interest in creating conditions where she were compelled to call a second referendum, and her party were compelled to support it. That way she can stay in power.
May's problem in that situation is that 76% of Conservative voters support No Deal.
Both May and Corbyn have made clear there won't be a second one and neither has any interest in changing that position. Only May could be replaced before Brexit and it won't be in favour of someone more Remainey.
May has a clear interest in creating conditions where she were compelled to call a second referendum, and her party were compelled to support it. That way she can stay in power.
May's problem in that situation is that 76% of Conservative voters support No Deal.
They still see No Deal as a gesture of defiance rather than a policy. They will learn.
Both May and Corbyn have made clear there won't be a second one and neither has any interest in changing that position. Only May could be replaced before Brexit and it won't be in favour of someone more Remainey.
May has a clear interest in creating conditions where she were compelled to call a second referendum, and her party were compelled to support it. That way she can stay in power.
May's problem in that situation is that 76% of Conservative voters support No Deal.
They still see No Deal as a gesture of defiance rather than a policy. They will learn.
It is frightening that so many Tories/Leavers are still in nose-cutting-off mode as next March inexorably approaches. Will they only acquire some realism when it is too late?
Both May and Corbyn have made clear there won't be a second one and neither has any interest in changing that position. Only May could be replaced before Brexit and it won't be in favour of someone more Remainey.
May has a clear interest in creating conditions where she were compelled to call a second referendum, and her party were compelled to support it. That way she can stay in power.
May's problem in that situation is that 76% of Conservative voters support No Deal.
They still see No Deal as a gesture of defiance rather than a policy. They will learn.
No deal isn't a policy. It's the freedom to make policy.
Besides, it's the EU that doesn't want a deal. The only options they are prepared to accept are full freedom of movement or a customs annexation of Northern Ireland.
It's not hard to see Corbyn climbing down on the definition. He's more flexible now than he used to be, and his core will back him (and be angry at the moderates for him) even if he does so, and it takes away a justification for further recriminations.
@DayTripper The reason why JRM and Boris are being considered for the Tory leadership among Conservative members in these polls, as well as Corbyn’s election, is because these people represent the worldview/ideology of said members. And, that ‘sensible’ Third Way style centrism has lost its popularity among electorates. Cable got picked partly because the LDs don’t have many great options. The same for UKIP,
Both May and Corbyn have made clear there won't be a second one and neither has any interest in changing that position. Only May could be replaced before Brexit and it won't be in favour of someone more Remainey.
May has a clear interest in creating conditions where she were compelled to call a second referendum, and her party were compelled to support it. That way she can stay in power.
May's problem in that situation is that 76% of Conservative voters support No Deal.
They still see No Deal as a gesture of defiance rather than a policy. They will learn.
No deal isn't a policy. It's the freedom to make policy.
Besides, it's the EU that doesn't want a deal. The only options they are prepared to accept are full freedom of movement or a customs annexation of Northern Ireland.
How soon after a No Deal exit would there have to be a border poll in Northern Ireland?
Both May and Corbyn have made clear there won't be a second one and neither has any interest in changing that position. Only May could be replaced before Brexit and it won't be in favour of someone more Remainey.
May has a clear interest in creating conditions where she were compelled to call a second referendum, and her party were compelled to support it. That way she can stay in power.
May's problem in that situation is that 76% of Conservative voters support No Deal.
They still see No Deal as a gesture of defiance rather than a policy. They will learn.
It is frightening that so many Tories/Leavers are still in nose-cutting-off mode as next March inexorably approaches. Will they only acquire some realism when it is too late?
They adore Boris and are mimicking his vote leave to stay in with a better deal strategy. They really do think that a no deal will bring the EU contrite back to the negotiating table.
On topic of today's YouGov I see UKIP have reached absolute zero on the Scottish sub sample which is SNP 42%, Tory 29%, Lab 17%,Green 6% and Lib 4%.
Of course just a sub sample but there is now a run of YouGovs with the Nats in the 40s and Labour way back in third. It maybe that some PB contributors have been rather overestimating the chances of a Labour revival in Scotland.
SNP still well down on the 50% they got in 2015.
A Boris or Mogg led Tories would be the best way to revive Scottish Labour
What are you on??
Actually for once HYUFD is correct.
The question of where Scottish swing voters who voted Tory last time would go to is an interesting one. But I think HYUFD is right that Scottish Independence is probably more toxic for them than Corbyn.
Scottish Labour or the LDs if they move
SCon voters are Brexiters. they aren't going to the LDs
Both May and Corbyn have made clear there won't be a second one and neither has any interest in changing that position. Only May could be replaced before Brexit and it won't be in favour of someone more Remainey.
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And you are of course right in what you say.
You may not agree with the tone or the jokes, but we have a thing called freedom of speech in this country,” Duncan Smith told the BBc Radio 4’s Today programme. “And I don’t believe that just because somebody takes offence that means that therefore there has to be an inquiry which means that the individual can be shut down in terms of their ability to say what they believe."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/10/former-tory-leader-iain-duncan-smith-defends-boris-johnson-over-burqa-comments
But does anyone remember...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/1969465.stm
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/letterbox-gate-who-said-it-first-boris-or-the-guardian/
A long time ago, on a forum far, far away, there was (I think) someone with the same name.
As I remember. Which is not very clearly.
Not a great look either.
https://news.sky.com/story/ben-stokes-was-defending-us-from-homophobic-abuse-say-gay-men-11101889
That is not possible within the laws of physics.
[And it was deccan traps, not flats. Silly me.]
If he wants to follow Farage into the Shock Jock business then he should carry on, but if he wants a sensible discussion of Niqab, then perhaps avoiding gratuitous insults might help.
Its almost as if he has no integrity.
Here's one.
https://dominiccummings.com/2018/08/08/on-the-referendum-28-some-interesting-stuff-on-ai-ml-with-hopefully-implications-for-post-may-hammond-decisions/
"After the abysmal May/Hammond interlude is over, hopefully some time between October 2018 — July 2019, its replacement will need to change course on almost every front from the NHS to how SW1 pours billions into the greedy paws of corporate looters via its appallingly managed >£200 BILLION annual contracting/procurement budget "
@EuropeElects
39m39 minutes ago
UK, YouGov poll:
EU membership referendum
Remain: 53% (+1)
Leave: 47% (-1)
No deal scenario
Remain: 56%
Leave: 43%
Field work: N/A
Sample size: 10,000+"
https://twitter.com/pressgazette/status/1027909472000327680?s=21
Drop a pebble into a pool and watch the ripples.
No but it is mitigation.
Does it work with are you disrespecting my bird?
Fighting the last war.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/08/08/justin-trudeau-vows-to-speak-out-on-human-rights-refuses-to-back-down-in-saudi-arabia-dispute.html
Where are May, Merkel or Macron on this? Turning a blind eye to Islamist evil again.
Meanwhile the press is more concerned with someone mocking burkas.
https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1027945926437089282
Besides, it's the EU that doesn't want a deal. The only options they are prepared to accept are full freedom of movement or a customs annexation of Northern Ireland.