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Nigel Farage considers running for London mayor https://t.co/zKaSNpDIpc

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Jonathan

Another ego trip. What an arsehole.

Morris_Dancer

I wonder if there's a part of the country in which Farage is less popular...

Richard_Nabavi

Jonathan said:

Another ego trip. What an arsehole.

A fairly harmless ego trip though. The Conservatives have little chance anyway, and Sadiq Khan is OK as Mayor, albeit a bit ineffectual.

Theuniondivvie

Morris_Dancer said:

I wonder if there's a part of the country in which Farage is less popular...

Coughs modestly..

TheScreamingEagles

Morris_Dancer said:

I wonder if there's a part of the country in which Farage is less popular...

I said Scotland in my opening paragraph.

Then again the Scots elected David Coburn.

TOPPING

Richard_Nabavi said:

Jonathan said:

Another ego trip. What an arsehole.

A fairly harmless ego trip though. The Conservatives have little chance anyway, and Sadiq Khan is OK as Mayor, albeit a bit ineffectual.

Go Shaun

Team #BackBailey

Morris_Dancer

Mr. Divvie, ah ha! You fell into my cunning and entirely deliberate trap to finally acknowledge we're countrymen!

On a slightly more serious note, it's interesting to see that Farage values publicity over the near certainly large margin of defeat he might suffer. If he actually stands.

Edited extra bit: on a related note: https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1035136327426166784

Nigel_Foremain

I wonder whether the group of people that encouraged him to stand might include anyone called Vladimir or Donald?

Morris_Dancer

Mr. Foremain, I think it unlikely that either the Impaler or the Duck offer Farage political advice.

Jonathan

Richard_Nabavi said:

Jonathan said:

Another ego trip. What an arsehole.

A fairly harmless ego trip though. The Conservatives have little chance anyway, and Sadiq Khan is OK as Mayor, albeit a bit ineffectual.

It's not harmless. He will become the story and squash a sensible debate on London's needs. London needs a vigorous campaign where people who actually want and can do the job.

tlg86

The supplementary vote, like the alternative vote system, allows for tactical voting against a particular candidate in the first round.

Does it? I thought that it just allows you to vote with your conscience in the first round and vote with your head in the second. If you vote Tory with your first preference to stop Farage getting second, you're stuck with the Tory in the run-off whether you like it or not.

Theuniondivvie

TheScreamingEagles said:

Morris_Dancer said:

I wonder if there's a part of the country in which Farage is less popular...

I said Scotland in my opening paragraph.

Then again the Scots elected David Coburn.

I'd imagine these 'staunch' voters would very much fall into the 'Do You Feel More British than Scottish' category.

Richard_Nabavi

Jonathan said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

Jonathan said:

Another ego trip. What an arsehole.

A fairly harmless ego trip though. The Conservatives have little chance anyway, and Sadiq Khan is OK as Mayor, albeit a bit ineffectual.

It's not harmless. He will become the story and squash a sensible debate on London's needs. London needs a vigorous campaign where people who actually want and can do the job.

Fair point, but London Mayoral campaigns aren't noted for their rigorous exploration of the issues.

Nigel_Foremain

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Foremain, I think it unlikely that either the Impaler or the Duck offer Farage political advice.

I am sure you must be right, neither of those two give advice, only instructions.

RobD

Dominatricies?

Sean_F

Morris_Dancer said:

I wonder if there's a part of the country in which Farage is less popular...

Oxford, Cambridge, Bristol, Brighton & Hove?

There are boroughs where Farage could win a fair-sized vote, ie Barking & Dagenham, Enfield, Havering, Bexley, Bromley, Sutton, Hillingdon, Croydon.

Nigel_Foremain

RobD said:

Dominatricies?

Is Farage close to the Mosley family?

Jonathan

Richard_Nabavi said:

Jonathan said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

Jonathan said:

Another ego trip. What an arsehole.

A fairly harmless ego trip though. The Conservatives have little chance anyway, and Sadiq Khan is OK as Mayor, albeit a bit ineffectual.

It's not harmless. He will become the story and squash a sensible debate on London's needs. London needs a vigorous campaign where people who actually want and can do the job.

Fair point, but London Mayoral campaigns aren't noted for their rigorous exploration of the issues.

Yup. Post Brexit, Britain needs London at the top of its game. I believe tightly fought campaigs that dig into policy makes for a better outcome, whoever wins.

Farage trolling the Tory party for whatever mad reason he has, turning the whole thing into a circus and denying Khan scrutiny and a test is
L depressing.

AlastairMeeks

This is nothing to do with dominatrices and everything to do with an attention whore. Nigel Farage is about as likely to stand for the Mayoralty as I am, but meanwhile we're all discussing him.

TheScreamingEagles

RobD said:

Dominatricies?

Have I spelt it wrong ?

RobD

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

Dominatricies?

Have I spelt it wrong ?

I presume one isn’t enough?

TheScreamingEagles

tlg86 said:

The supplementary vote, like the alternative vote system, allows for tactical voting against a particular candidate in the first round.

Does it? I thought that it just allows you to vote with your conscience in the first round and vote with your head in the second. If you vote Tory with your first preference to stop Farage getting second, you're stuck with the Tory in the run-off whether you like it or not.

I believe it does.

TheScreamingEagles

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

Dominatricies?

Have I spelt it wrong ?

I presume one isn’t enough?

Zero is more than enough.

Richard_Nabavi

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

Dominatricies?

Have I spelt it wrong ?

I presume one isn’t enough?

Zero is more than enough.

I'm not an expert in this, but I thought you needed at least one, to untie you at the end.

RobD

tlg86 said:

The supplementary vote, like the alternative vote system, allows for tactical voting against a particular candidate in the first round.

Does it? I thought that it just allows you to vote with your conscience in the first round and vote with your head in the second. If you vote Tory with your first preference to stop Farage getting second, you're stuck with the Tory in the run-off whether you like it or not.

Not sure why people voting for losers should get a second choice...

tlg86

TheScreamingEagles said:

tlg86 said:

The supplementary vote, like the alternative vote system, allows for tactical voting against a particular candidate in the first round.

Does it? I thought that it just allows you to vote with your conscience in the first round and vote with your head in the second. If you vote Tory with your first preference to stop Farage getting second, you're stuck with the Tory in the run-off whether you like it or not.

I believe it does.

This is quite a clever way of the Tories winning the election. Tell everyone to vote Tory to stop Farage coming second, but say that they can still vote Labour with their second preference to make sure Labour win in the second round...

TheScreamingEagles

Richard_Nabavi said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

Dominatricies?

Have I spelt it wrong ?

I presume one isn’t enough?

Zero is more than enough.

I'm not an expert in this, but I thought you needed at least one, to untie you at the end.

That’s what safe words are for.

A bit of advice, never choose ‘mower’ as your safe word.

TOPPING

I befriended (and only befriended) a couple of working girls who used to do B&D, typically for CEOs and other high-powered folk.

They said that the majority of the time the sessions consisted of them arriving at their client's place (hotel or home) and telling them to do the cleaning.

Fysics_Teacher

G&S fans know that the original safe word was one teeming with hidden meaning: Basingstoke.

JosiasJessop

Off-topic:

No major reason for drama yet, but the International Space Station has a small but continuous leak. It appears to be coming from a Soyuz orbital module, and is proving hard to fix.

This might have implications for NASA's manned spaceflight plans.

Sean_F

TheScreamingEagles said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

Dominatricies?

Have I spelt it wrong ?

I presume one isn’t enough?

Zero is more than enough.

I'm not an expert in this, but I thought you needed at least one, to untie you at the end.

That’s what safe words are for.

A bit of advice, never choose ‘mower’ as your safe word.

I read of one case where a man nearly died of asphyxiation after being tied up, because the dominatrix fell asleep in another room.

SandyRentool

Fysics_Teacher said:

G&S fans know that the original safe word was one teeming with hidden meaning: Basingstoke.

Gin & Slimline?

CarlottaVance

But one thing is clear. Salmond, innocent or guilty, is signalling his power in a way I find deeply worrying. The message being sent out to women is that if you make accusations you will be up against enormous power and wealth....
......massive donations to crowdfunders send the same old signal to us: what happens to women is always less important than the reputation of “great” men.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/30/alex-salmond-crowdfunding-scottish-independence?CMP=share_btn_tw

Fysics_Teacher

Sean_F said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

Dominatricies?

Have I spelt it wrong ?

I presume one isn’t enough?

Zero is more than enough.

I'm not an expert in this, but I thought you needed at least one, to untie you at the end.

That’s what safe words are for.

A bit of advice, never choose ‘mower’ as your safe word.

I read of one case where a man nearly died of asphyxiation after being tied up, because the dominatrix fell asleep in another room.

Wasn’t that a scene in “Blott on the Landscape” by Tom Sharpe?

Sean_F

Fysics_Teacher said:

Sean_F said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

Dominatricies?

Have I spelt it wrong ?

I presume one isn’t enough?

Zero is more than enough.

I'm not an expert in this, but I thought you needed at least one, to untie you at the end.

That’s what safe words are for.

A bit of advice, never choose ‘mower’ as your safe word.

I read of one case where a man nearly died of asphyxiation after being tied up, because the dominatrix fell asleep in another room.

Wasn’t that a scene in “Blott on the Landscape” by Tom Sharpe?

I thought she went out to buy some groceries and forgot about him.

Anorak

Sean_F said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

Dominatricies?

Have I spelt it wrong ?

I presume one isn’t enough?

Zero is more than enough.

I'm not an expert in this, but I thought you needed at least one, to untie you at the end.

That’s what safe words are for.

A bit of advice, never choose ‘mower’ as your safe word.

I read of one case where a man nearly died of asphyxiation after being tied up, because the dominatrix fell asleep in another room.

"read of"

Fysics_Teacher

JosiasJessop said:

Off-topic:

No major reason for drama yet, but the International Space Station has a small but continuous leak. It appears to be coming from a Soyuz orbital module, and is proving hard to fix.

This might have implications for NASA's manned spaceflight plans.

Do you have a source for that? (I believe you, I just want to know the details).

Alanbrooke

TOPPING said:

I befriended (and only befriended) a couple of working girls who used to do B&D, typically for CEOs and other high-powered folk.

They said that the majority of the time the sessions consisted of them arriving at their client's place (hotel or home) and telling them to do the cleaning.

shit

hadnt realised Mrs B was a dominatrix

RobD

Anorak said:

Sean_F said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

Dominatricies?

Have I spelt it wrong ?

I presume one isn’t enough?

Zero is more than enough.

I'm not an expert in this, but I thought you needed at least one, to untie you at the end.

That’s what safe words are for.

A bit of advice, never choose ‘mower’ as your safe word.

I read of one case where a man nearly died of asphyxiation after being tied up, because the dominatrix fell asleep in another room.

"read of"

His memories are pretty fuzzy from that night

Pulpstar

JosiasJessop said:

Off-topic:

No major reason for drama yet, but the International Space Station has a small but continuous leak. It appears to be coming from a Soyuz orbital module, and is proving hard to fix.

This might have implications for NASA's manned spaceflight plans.

Yes, it means they should get on with it.

Morris_Dancer

Mr. Jessop, let's hope they can manage to get the leak fixed.

Pulpstar

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Jessop, let's hope they can manage to get the leak fixed.

Duct tape.

Fysics_Teacher

SandyRentool said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

G&S fans know that the original safe word was one teeming with hidden meaning: Basingstoke.

Gin & Slimline?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruddigore

Fysics_Teacher

Sean_F said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

Sean_F said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

Dominatricies?

Have I spelt it wrong ?

I presume one isn’t enough?

Zero is more than enough.

I'm not an expert in this, but I thought you needed at least one, to untie you at the end.

That’s what safe words are for.

A bit of advice, never choose ‘mower’ as your safe word.

I read of one case where a man nearly died of asphyxiation after being tied up, because the dominatrix fell asleep in another room.

Wasn’t that a scene in “Blott on the Landscape” by Tom Sharpe?

I thought she went out to buy some groceries and forgot about him.

That was it.

Anorak

An enlightening thread - do click through and read it all - for those on the left who seem to believe that Corbyn was the only person in Britain protesting Apartheid in the 80's. It was one of the most mainstreamiest parts of the left for decades, and Corbyn couldn't hold a candle to Hain in this regard.
https://twitter.com/pauloCanning/status/1035127990433271808

Sandpit

Pulpstar said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Jessop, let's hope they can manage to get the leak fixed.

Duct tape.

The universal solution. Saved Apollo 13 when they needed to get a square peg into a round hole.

Sean_F

Fysics_Teacher said:

Sean_F said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

Sean_F said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

Dominatricies?

Have I spelt it wrong ?

I presume one isn’t enough?

Zero is more than enough.

I'm not an expert in this, but I thought you needed at least one, to untie you at the end.

That’s what safe words are for.

A bit of advice, never choose ‘mower’ as your safe word.

I read of one case where a man nearly died of asphyxiation after being tied up, because the dominatrix fell asleep in another room.

Wasn’t that a scene in “Blott on the Landscape” by Tom Sharpe?

I thought she went out to buy some groceries and forgot about him.

That was it.

Mrs. Forthby, who played the roles of Miss Dracula the Cruel Mistress, Catwoman, and Doris the Schoolgirl Sexpot (she was about 50 at the time).

Danny565

Anorak said:

... for those on the left who seem to believe that Corbyn was the only person in Britain protesting Apartheid in the 80's ...

Straw man alert!

Anorak

Danny565 said:

Anorak said:

... for those on the left who seem to believe that Corbyn was the only person in Britain protesting Apartheid in the 80's ...

Straw man alert!

Seriously? If I had a penny for every starry-eyed Momentumite tweeting that picture of JC being carted off by the plod ... I could buy a couple of pints.

The only man in Labour who's been on the right side of history my hairy arse.

Theuniondivvie

CarlottaVance said:

But one thing is clear. Salmond, innocent or guilty, is signalling his power in a way I find deeply worrying. The message being sent out to women is that if you make accusations you will be up against enormous power and wealth....
......massive donations to crowdfunders send the same old signal to us: what happens to women is always less important than the reputation of “great” men.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/30/alex-salmond-crowdfunding-scottish-independence?CMP=share_btn_tw

I'd imagine the confidential anonymity element of such a process would be the most reassuring aspect for anyone making accusations. Luckily the women in question still retain that, Salmond not so much. Perhaps ire should be directed at the leaker(s), whoever they may be.

CarlottaVance

https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1035174272036159495

Sean_F

CarlottaVance said:

But one thing is clear. Salmond, innocent or guilty, is signalling his power in a way I find deeply worrying. The message being sent out to women is that if you make accusations you will be up against enormous power and wealth....
......massive donations to crowdfunders send the same old signal to us: what happens to women is always less important than the reputation of “great” men.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/30/alex-salmond-crowdfunding-scottish-independence?CMP=share_btn_tw

Theuniondivvie said:

CarlottaVance said:

But one thing is clear. Salmond, innocent or guilty, is signalling his power in a way I find deeply worrying. The message being sent out to women is that if you make accusations you will be up against enormous power and wealth....
......massive donations to crowdfunders send the same old signal to us: what happens to women is always less important than the reputation of “great” men.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/30/alex-salmond-crowdfunding-scottish-independence?CMP=share_btn_tw

I'd imagine the confidential anonymity element of such a process would be the most reassuring aspect for anyone making accusations. Luckily the women in question still retain that, Salmond not so much. Perhaps ire should be directed at the leaker(s), whoever they may be.

I think that's a bit of a stretch on Suzanne Moore's part.

ydoethur

England's top six today scored a grand total of 71.

Ian Bell is 141 not out, on a day when pretty much every other side is struggling with the bat (if you want to see a car crash, look at Leicestershire).

Can I remind people I recently tipped him to be recalled for Sri Lanka?

FrancisUrquhart

Jeremy Corbyn claimed Nato was set up to 'promote a cold war with the Soviet Union' in a newly revealed speech.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6110943/Corbyn-claimed-Nato-set-promote-cold-war-Soviet-Union.html

More conspiracy theories than Alex Jones....

FrancisUrquhart

US President Donald Trump has attacked CNN's president Jeff Zucker on Twitter, saying that he should be fired.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45357329

TheJezziah

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/08/jeremy-corbyn-s-two-universes

Thought this was quite interesting, not about right or wrong just a reflection on the two different universes (as he puts it) of Corbyn.

I am more interested in a politician that talks to the second universe of normal people...

TheJezziah

FrancisUrquhart said:

Jeremy Corbyn claimed Nato was set up to 'promote a cold war with the Soviet Union' in a newly revealed speech.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6110943/Corbyn-claimed-Nato-set-promote-cold-war-Soviet-Union.html

More conspiracy theories than Alex Jones....

Nato and the Warsaw pact were clearly setup in opposition to each other, I imagine both share in the blame but claiming one side or the other started it is probably a bit too close to the truth to be called a conspiracy theory.

Jonathan

FrancisUrquhart said:

Jeremy Corbyn claimed Nato was set up to 'promote a cold war with the Soviet Union' in a newly revealed speech.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6110943/Corbyn-claimed-Nato-set-promote-cold-war-Soviet-Union.html

More conspiracy theories than Alex Jones....

Cold wars are better than hot ones.

TheJezziah

Anorak said:

Danny565 said:

Anorak said:

... for those on the left who seem to believe that Corbyn was the only person in Britain protesting Apartheid in the 80's ...

Straw man alert!

Seriously? If I had a penny for every starry-eyed Momentumite tweeting that picture of JC being carted off by the plod ... I could buy a couple of pints.

The only man in Labour who's been on the right side of history my hairy arse.

Tweeting a picture of Corbyn being arrested is not the same as claiming nobody else in Labour or on the left protested apartheid. That is why it is a straw man.

Rhubarb

Fysics_Teacher said:

JosiasJessop said:

Off-topic:

No major reason for drama yet, but the International Space Station has a small but continuous leak. It appears to be coming from a Soyuz orbital module, and is proving hard to fix.

This might have implications for NASA's manned spaceflight plans.

Do you have a source for that? (I believe you, I just want to know the details).

Try the Independent.

TrèsDifficile

Who was the last british politician to have their own chant?

SandyRentool

Jonathan said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Jeremy Corbyn claimed Nato was set up to 'promote a cold war with the Soviet Union' in a newly revealed speech.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6110943/Corbyn-claimed-Nato-set-promote-cold-war-Soviet-Union.html

More conspiracy theories than Alex Jones....

Cold wars are better than hot ones.

Unlike pizza. Whatever the topping.

Fysics_Teacher

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1035174272036159495

Is that a euphemism?

Rhubarb

TrèsDifficile said:

Who was the last british politician to have their own chant?

Thatcher?

Fysics_Teacher

TrèsDifficile said:

Who was the last british politician to have their own chant?

“Maggie, Maggie, Maggie...”

SandyRentool

TrèsDifficile said:

Who was the last british politician to have their own chant?

"Maggie, Maggie Maggie! Out, out, out!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZJxFo5Br_0

TheScreamingEagles

TrèsDifficile said:

Who was the last british politician to have their own chant?

David Cameron in 2015.

The Smoggies came up with a most entertaining chant about Dave and the steel industry.

Richard_Nabavi

TheJezziah said:

Anorak said:

Danny565 said:

Anorak said:

... for those on the left who seem to believe that Corbyn was the only person in Britain protesting Apartheid in the 80's ...

Straw man alert!

Seriously? If I had a penny for every starry-eyed Momentumite tweeting that picture of JC being carted off by the plod ... I could buy a couple of pints.

The only man in Labour who's been on the right side of history my hairy arse.

Tweeting a picture of Corbyn being arrested is not the same as claiming nobody else in Labour or on the left protested apartheid. That is why it is a straw man.

Full story here (including an article by a young reporter called Seumas Milne about the attempted takeover of the Anti-Apartheid Movement by Corbyn and other extreme-left activists using classic entryist techniques, similar to those they've now successfully used to take over the Labour Party):

https://twitter.com/TimesCorbyn/status/990669933792067585

The attempt was defeated with help from the ANC, who provided a statement dissociating themselves from the group Corbyn supported.

Jonathan

TheJezziah said:

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/08/jeremy-corbyn-s-two-universes

Thought this was quite interesting, not about right or wrong just a reflection on the two different universes (as he puts it) of Corbyn.

I am more interested in a politician that talks to the second universe of normal people...

The solution has been obvious for some time. Corbyn needs a partner from the right of the party capable of dealing with press.

Corbyns error, which will keep him out of office, is that he is unable to work with or motivate people who do not fully agree with him.

Blair worked with and promoted left wingers.

TheScreamingEagles

The Smoggies chant was along the lines of

‘David Cameron you fucked a pig, you made it squeal,
Get off your arse and save our steel.’

Sean_F

TheScreamingEagles said:

The Smoggies chant was along the lines of

‘David Cameron you fucked a pig, you made it squeal,
Get off your arse and save our steel.’

Not a chant, but very entertaining:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2HoOI0K0M4

TheJezziah

https://twitter.com/TimesCorbyn/status/990698081149743106

We may be dealing with an apartheid regime with despicable views but come on Jeremy protesting outside their embassy just isn't cricket old sport...

Edit: interesting thread Richard.

Theuniondivvie

https://twitter.com/krishgm/status/1035183680543776774

fitalass

Guido Fawkes - Frank Fields Quits Labour Party

Jonathan

fitalass said:

Guido Fawkes - Frank Fields Quits Labour Party

Was he in it?

TheScreamingEagles

Theuniondivvie said:

https://twitter.com/krishgm/status/1035183680543776774

Mike’s been on holiday for less than 24 hours and we’ve had two resignations already

fitalass

Break: Veteran Parliamentarian Frank Field confirms he has resigned the Labour whip to serve as an Independent Labour MP (1/2)

— Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) August 30, 2018

Morris_Dancer

Mr. Eagles, I hadn't heard that before.

I do wonder if an opportunity was missed for a 'save our bacon' pun.

ydoethur

TheScreamingEagles said:

Theuniondivvie said:

https://twitter.com/krishgm/status/1035183680543776774

Mike’s been on holiday for less than 24 hours and we’ve had two resignations already

Who's the other one? This tweet seems to have vanished.

Or is that a reference to Salmond being canned?

FrancisUrquhart

Always had a lot of time for Frank Field, but I wonder how he feels about being one of the MPs that nominated Jezza. Remember Jezza only just scraped enough nominations to be allowed to be considered for leadership election.

fitalass

Frank Field tells me: “I’m seeing the Chief Whip tomorrow. I’m hoping that this action will lead to the Labour Party again becoming the most prominent party against racism. Until then, I am resigning the whip". (2/2)

— Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) August 30, 2018

Slackbladder

Sadly Frank Fields leaving is exactly what the Corbynites want.

Richard_Nabavi

fitalass said:

Frank Field tells me: “I’m seeing the Chief Whip tomorrow. I’m hoping that this action will lead to the Labour Party again becoming the most prominent party against racism. Until then, I am resigning the whip". (2/2)

— Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) August 30, 2018

I fear he'll have a long wait.

SandyRentool

Very sad that a life-long Labourite feels the need to leave the party.

Rhubarb

He's timed it well for the evening news and the papers.

fitalass

Jonathan said:

fitalass said:

Guido Fawkes - Frank Fields Quits Labour Party

Was he in it?

Any political party that thinks that it can afford to lose a longing serving back bench MP of the calibre of Frank Field is a lost cause.

Pulpstar

I don't think Field quitting the whip means too much in the context of this parliament, unless he plans a by-election in which case the Gov't will end up having one less vote on Brexit stuff..

I assume he'll sit as an independent for the rest of the parliament and then retire from the commons (He is 76) when the next GE occurs.

ydoethur

SandyRentool said:

Very sad that a life-long Labourite feels the need to leave the party.

Has he left the party, or only the parliamentary party? 'Resigning the whip' suggests the latter.

Edit - he's only resigned the whip. He will continue to be a Labour MP, but vote independently and not attend meetings.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/30/frank-field-resigns-labour-whip-over-antisemitism-crisis

For all the headline drama, I'm not sure how this does much more than formalise the situation really,

williamglenn

Could Kate Hoey follow suit?

TheJezziah

Jonathan said:

TheJezziah said:

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/08/jeremy-corbyn-s-two-universes

Thought this was quite interesting, not about right or wrong just a reflection on the two different universes (as he puts it) of Corbyn.

I am more interested in a politician that talks to the second universe of normal people...

The solution has been obvious for some time. Corbyn needs a partner from the right of the party capable of dealing with press.

Corbyns error, which will keep him out of office, is that he is unable to work with or motivate people who do not fully agree with him.

Blair worked with and promoted left wingers.

It is unfortunate that Corbyn just packed his cabinet and front bench with people who agreed with him and never gave anyone else a chance...

I don't think the messenger would help much if Corbyn was still leader, he could be a bit smoother with the media but considering how they have been with him I don't expect or perhaps even want him to treat them any differently to how they treat him. I think the problem would largely remain regardless of having someone smooth from the right of the party to deal with the press. They would still really go for Corbyn.

Abandon the idea of good press and go straight to the voters, the tv rules kick in around election time so there is no choice for the TV coverage but to attempt to show balance and that is when we have the opportunity to get our message across.

Jonathan

Cricket or politics. Which is most depressing?

Big_G_NorthWales

TheJezziah said:

https://twitter.com/TimesCorbyn/status/990698081149743106

We may be dealing with an apartheid regime with despicable views but come on Jeremy protesting outside their embassy just isn't cricket old sport...

Edit: interesting thread Richard.

I do admire your stoical defence of Corbyn but nothing you can do now will change the narrative on Corbyn and anti semetic views and this will follow him for as long as he leads the labour party including a GE campaign.

Who would have thought that virtually all the summer holidays would be dominated with Corbyn's anti semetic issues giving the government a free pass. Labour's lost summer

Morris_Dancer

We'll see if anyone else joins Frank Fields. Kudos to him for resigning.

DavidL

ydoethur said:

England's top six today scored a grand total of 71.

Ian Bell is 141 not out, on a day when pretty much every other side is struggling with the bat (if you want to see a car crash, look at Leicestershire).

Can I remind people I recently tipped him to be recalled for Sri Lanka?

Good call. I would play him at 3 and drop Root to 4. The problem, however, is who plays 1 and 2.

TheScreamingEagles

ydoethur said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Theuniondivvie said:

https://twitter.com/krishgm/status/1035183680543776774

Mike’s been on holiday for less than 24 hours and we’ve had two resignations already

Who's the other one? This tweet seems to have vanished.

Or is that a reference to Salmond being canned?

Yes Salmond.

notme

Morris_Dancer said:

We'll see if anyone else joins Frank Fields. Kudos to him for resigning.

hasnt his local party go infested with corbynites threatening de selection? FF is one of the very few who could possibly pull of as an independent. Though it would be difficult.

fitalass

notme said:

Morris_Dancer said:

We'll see if anyone else joins Frank Fields. Kudos to him for resigning.

hasnt his local party go infested with corbynites threatening de selection? FF is one of the very few who could possibly pull of as an independent. Though it would be difficult.

I agree.

Jonathan

DavidL said:

ydoethur said:

England's top six today scored a grand total of 71.

Ian Bell is 141 not out, on a day when pretty much every other side is struggling with the bat (if you want to see a car crash, look at Leicestershire).

Can I remind people I recently tipped him to be recalled for Sri Lanka?

Good call. I would play him at 3 and drop Root to 4. The problem, however, is who plays 1 and 2.

They only have to score 17 between them to do any better.

SandyRentool

Morris_Dancer said:

We'll see if anyone else joins Frank Fields. Kudos to him for resigning.

Why Kudos?

JosiasJessop

Big_G_NorthWales said:

TheJezziah said:

https://twitter.com/TimesCorbyn/status/990698081149743106

We may be dealing with an apartheid regime with despicable views but come on Jeremy protesting outside their embassy just isn't cricket old sport...

Edit: interesting thread Richard.

I do admire your stoical defence of Corbyn but nothing you can do now will change the narrative on Corbyn and anti semetic views and this will follow him for as long as he leads the labour party including a GE campaign.

Who would have thought that virtually all the summer holidays would be dominated with Corbyn's anti semetic issues giving the government a free pass. Labour's lost summer

The same thing happened with the rail chaos back in May: Labour could easily have got Grayling's scalp (and rightly so), but they ended up attacking the privatised companies (in the case of Northern, wrongly, and GTR mostly wrongly).

In the process that gave Grayling a free pass.