Mr. Anorak, I like Europe. My main historical interest is that of Italy, after all.
But the EU is not Europe. It is not wise. Its construction is fundamentally flawed. The underhand means by which we've been bound so close to it is unwanted.
A trade bloc is one thing. The EU is quite another. The sooner it disintegrates the better, because the taller you build an unstable edifice the greater the carnage when it crumbles.
Just nonsense. Of course the EU is flawed, with a significant democratic deficit, but then so is the UK. But from a historical perspective there is no disputing that the EU has been a significant force for good.
I write from a trattoria in northern Italy. Every park we have been to has large numbers of African migrants hanging about, some obviously sleeping there, and every litter bin in town has been turned out by people looking for food or something to sell. The same in Munich en route. If there is a crisis it is one of migration from Syria and sub-S Africa, which would have been happening with or without the EU. At least the EU offers the prospect of a more co-ordinated response.
I’m not saying this would be a good thing but I suspect there’d have been a much harder response to trans-Mediterranean migration by nations like Italy, Spain and Greece in the absence of the EU. That might include preventing pick up of boats leaving North Africa by NGOs, repelling boats at the shore and escorting them back to North Africa, together with military occupation of parts of the shoreline and destruction of trafficking infrastructure.
It’s far from clear if German “invitations” - together with pan European redistribution by quota - haven’t simply encouraged it either.
Return the migrants, impound the ships and lengthy prison scentences (15 years min) for the crews would sort this in short order.
We do of course have state selective education. It's called selection by property prices and your ability to afford a home in the catchment area of the best state schools! At least I suppose the 11 plus was on merit.
It's just a shame the left wing liberal middle classes in London and elsewhere weren't just a lot more honest and paid extra to send their kids to private school rather than taking out a bigger mortgage to achieve the same effect in all but name.
They will always seek to preserve the current system - cos it keeps the poor in their place and they can look so right on sending their kids to the best state schools. A case of pulling up the drawbridge.
It's not about "keeping the poor in their place". That's absurd hyperbole.
Wanting the best for your own kids is undeniably selfish, but also a very, very human thing to do.
We do of course have state selective education. It's called selection by property prices and your ability to afford a home in the catchment area of the best state schools! At least I suppose the 11 plus was on merit.
It's just a shame the left wing liberal middle classes in London and elsewhere weren't just a lot more honest and paid extra to send their kids to private school rather than taking out a bigger mortgage to achieve the same effect in all but name.
They will always seek to preserve the current system - cos it keeps the poor in their place and they can look so right on sending their kids to the best state schools. A case of pulling up the drawbridge.
It's not about "keeping the poor in their place". That's absurd hyperbole.
Wanting the best for your own kids is undeniably selfish, but also a very, very human thing to do.
It is also garbage that they try to pretend it is same education opportunities for everyone when everybody knows your opportunity is based on how much money your parents have.
We do of course have state selective education. It's called selection by property prices and your ability to afford a home in the catchment area of the best state schools! At least I suppose the 11 plus was on merit.
It's just a shame the left wing liberal middle classes in London and elsewhere weren't just a lot more honest and paid extra to send their kids to private school rather than taking out a bigger mortgage to achieve the same effect in all but name.
They will always seek to preserve the current system - cos it keeps the poor in their place and they can look so right on sending their kids to the best state schools. A case of pulling up the drawbridge.
It's not about "keeping the poor in their place". That's absurd hyperbole.
Wanting the best for your own kids is undeniably selfish, but also a very, very human thing to do.
It is also garbage that they try to pretend it is same education opportunities for everyone when everybody knows your opportunity is based on how much money your parents have.
Not denying that hypocrisy abounds. I spend a fortune on private schools and I'm very aware that I'm very fortunate that I can do that.
My old boss was ex-private equity and also (funnily enough) very, very left wing. Voted for JC with enthusiasm. He could afford private schooling but chose not to as he felt it was societally divisive and fundamentally unfair to poorer children. He later fessed up - very sheepishly - to spending an absolute fortune of private tutors to get his kids into the university of their choice...
We do of course have state selective education. It's called selection by property prices and your ability to afford a home in the catchment area of the best state schools! At least I suppose the 11 plus was on merit.
It's just a shame the left wing liberal middle classes in London and elsewhere weren't just a lot more honest and paid extra to send their kids to private school rather than taking out a bigger mortgage to achieve the same effect in all but name.
They will always seek to preserve the current system - cos it keeps the poor in their place and they can look so right on sending their kids to the best state schools. A case of pulling up the drawbridge.
It's not about "keeping the poor in their place". That's absurd hyperbole.
Wanting the best for your own kids is undeniably selfish, but also a very, very human thing to do.
Do you deny catchment areas are a form of selection linked to your ability to afford a home in the catchment area? As estate agents will shot loudly - prices are much higher in the catchment area of the best state schools.
I have no issue with people seeking the best for their kids and using their wealth to secure that - but at least those sending their kids to private schools aren't hypocritical about it. Look at me - aren't I so right on that I send by daughter to Camden school for girls (a high performing state school near Hampstead where many of the Labour elite and glitterati send their kids to school). You can support state education - the only price is being able to pay £1.5 million for a house in the catchment area!
The studies only tell part of the story - because there are no grammar schools left in really deprived areas with Labour run councils. They tend to be in the Tory shires and Tory outer suburbs.
Social mobility has hardly improved in the last 20 years since we moved to selection by house prices.
Do you deny catchment areas are a form of selection linked to your ability to afford a home in the catchment area? As estate agents will shot loudly - prices are much higher in the catchment area of the best state schools.
I have no issue with people seeking the best for their kids and using their wealth to secure that - but at least those sending their kids to private schools aren't hypocritical about it. Look at me - arent I so right on that I send by daughter to Camden school for girls (a high performing state school near Hampstead where many of the Labour elite and glitterati send their kids to school). You can support state education - the only price is being able to pay £1.5 million for a house in the catchment area!
Don't deny catchment area thing. Not sure how to solve it. Bus people around to ensure a broad demographic mix? Probably better for society as a whole but political suicide to any party proposing it, as it is easily - and short-sightedly - framed as "mediocrity for all".
We do of course have state selective education. It's called selection by property prices and your ability to afford a home in the catchment area of the best state schools! At least I suppose the 11 plus was on merit.
It's just a shame the left wing liberal middle classes in London and elsewhere weren't just a lot more honest and paid extra to send their kids to private school rather than taking out a bigger mortgage to achieve the same effect in all but name.
They will always seek to preserve the current system - cos it keeps the poor in their place and they can look so right on sending their kids to the best state schools. A case of pulling up the drawbridge.
It's not about "keeping the poor in their place". That's absurd hyperbole.
Wanting the best for your own kids is undeniably selfish, but also a very, very human thing to do.
It is also garbage that they try to pretend it is same education opportunities for everyone when everybody knows your opportunity is based on how much money your parents have.
Not denying that hypocrisy abounds. I spend a fortune on private schools and I'm very aware that I'm very fortunate that I can do that.
My old boss was ex-private equity and also (funnily enough) very, very left wing. Voted for JC with enthusiasm. He could afford private schooling but chose not to as he felt it was societally divisive and fundamentally unfair to poorer children. He later fessed up - very sheepishly - to spending an absolute fortune of private tutors to get his kids into the university of their choice...
It is the hypocrisy that is the sickening part. They don't have the guts to admit it.
King Cole, the political class tying us so tightly to something the electorate didn't want is one of the reasons trust in them is so low.
Up until about 2010 Europe wasn’t really an issue, except in the minds of Daily Mail leader writers and a few of John Major’s bastards. It’s instructive to remember that when we joined the EEC (yes, I know) the Mail’s front page proclaimed that ‘for ten years we have campaigned for this day. We have not wavered in our conviction that Britain’s best and brightest future is in Europe’.
It's almost as if opinions change over 45 years.
And the European project has changed as well. What we joined in the 1970s is not what we are leaving now.
This is a hoary old canard churned out by leavers. The anecdote is to do some research into the commentary contemporary to the 1975 referendum, and to ask the question why, if all we wanted was the economic union (which the UK did more than anyone to create), why said leavers are SO hostile to any suggestion that we should stay within it now?
Because we value our non-contributory welfare system above the Four Freedoms
Either (a) free movement+right to be treated like a U.K. citizen or (b) the welfare system has to give.
Its perfectly possible for countries to agree trade deals in less than a year - but it isn't possible to do so with the EU where it normally takes 6 years plus. Which is sort of the problem.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
King Cole, the political class tying us so tightly to something the electorate didn't want is one of the reasons trust in them is so low.
Up until about 2010 Europe wasn’t really an issue, except in the minds of Daily Mail leader writers and a few of John Major’s bastards. It’s instructive to remember that when we joined the EEC (yes, I know) the Mail’s front page proclaimed that ‘for ten years we have campaigned for this day. We have not wavered in our conviction that Britain’s best and brightest future is in Europe’.
It's almost as if opinions change over 45 years.
So you’d be happy with a second referendum?
For the avoidance of doubt I ‘remain’ to be convinced it would go the way I’d prefer!
You imply that know how I voted? That's remarkable.
I would be happier never to see referendums rear their head again unless the implementation of it is a wholly domestic matter and it is made clear how it will be implemented - see by way of example the Irish referendum on abortion.
As I take it that you'd ne in favour, you might explain what "remain" means and how you will bind third parties to agree with what you will argue that it means. Without that, any result would be as illegitimate as the previous referendum.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
I'm not 100% sure what it's for: just that it happens to everyone (I would be really concerned if it was jut us!) It might also be to allow us to answer any questions we have.
Friends of ours had theirs last week (for a different school), and it lasted all of ten minutes.
But yes, it does feel a little as though we're being examined.
I have to admit, even as a Remain voter, I was amazed that the government committed to paying the whole "divorce bill" irrespective of what the EU agreed with us in return. I always assumed that the approach would be something like "we'll give you a small amount of what you want if you agree an orderly No Deal, we'll give you a bigger amount if you agree a transition deal, and we'll give you the whole lot of what you're asking for if you give us the trade deal we want".
However, because the government has made such a spectacular balls-up of the negotiations, it's much too late to take such an approach now, and at this stage we have no choice but to accept whatever Barnier gives us, humiliating as it is.
As I take it that you'd ne in favour, you might explain what "remain" means and how you will bind third parties to agree with what you will argue that it means. Without that, any result would be as illegitimate as the previous referendum.
Referendums in different countries can't negotiate with each other, so using them as a way to extra-territorialise the democratic wishes of one electorate is illegitimate, as you say. Nevertheless, if the European Council agrees in advance that they would accept a revocation of Article 50 in the event of a referendum win for Remain, then this problem doesn't apply.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Claims that schools in the north of England are worse than those in the south are based on myth and bad data, according to a large-scale research project that calls into question the education policies of successive governments.
The study also challenges the idea that selective grammar schools or academies are more likely to improve pupil progress overall than community comprehensives, tracing the progress of 1.8 million pupils, their social, family and economic backgrounds and the type of schools they attended.
Prediction - PB Grammarians will assure us personal anecdote beats wide scale data.
Again.
We do of course have state selective education. It's called selection by property prices and your ability to afford a home in the catchment area of the best state schools! At least I suppose the 11 plus was on merit.
It's just a shame the left wing liberal middle classes in London and elsewhere weren't just a lot more honest and paid extra to send their kids to private school rather than taking out a bigger mortgage to achieve the same effect in all but name.
They will always seek to preserve the current system - cos it keeps the poor in their place and they can look so right on sending their kids to the best state schools. A case of pulling up the drawbridge.
It's more traditional to get temporary religion. That's quite available to anybody regardless of background.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Yes, that's the creepy bit. All a bit East German.
There are whole other sections of local government already tasked with that. It feels as though teachers are being used as Trojan Horses.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Teachers are expected to be social workers these days it feels to me.
As I take it that you'd ne in favour, you might explain what "remain" means and how you will bind third parties to agree with what you will argue that it means. Without that, any result would be as illegitimate as the previous referendum.
Referendums in different countries can't negotiate with each other, so using them as a way to extra-territorialise the democratic wishes of one electorate is illegitimate, as you say. Nevertheless, if the European Council agrees in advance that they would accept a revocation of Article 50 in the event of a referendum win for Remain, then this problem doesn't apply.
And if they don't presumably that kills any referendum calls stone dead?
As I take it that you'd ne in favour, you might explain what "remain" means and how you will bind third parties to agree with what you will argue that it means. Without that, any result would be as illegitimate as the previous referendum.
Referendums in different countries can't negotiate with each other, so using them as a way to extra-territorialise the democratic wishes of one electorate is illegitimate, as you say. Nevertheless, if the European Council agrees in advance that they would accept a revocation of Article 50 in the event of a referendum win for Remain, then this problem doesn't apply.
And if they don't presumably that kills any referendum calls stone dead?
Yes, although there are good arguments that Article 50 is unilaterally revocable so that would lead to a pretty acrimonious dispute.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Teachers are expected to be social workers these days it feels to me.
Surely they should ask your permission first?
They did ask permission.
I just looked online, and apparently one reason is to check you really live where you say you live.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Teachers are expected to be social workers these days it feels to me.
Surely they should ask your permission first?
Realistically that's always going to be some part of their job though, right? A teacher will see a kid at least every week, social workers won't see them at all unless they're called in. Giving teachers, for example, training in spotting signs of abuse or distress seems like something we should be doing.
Whether this particular example goes too far- and in fact whether that's the real reason at all- I'm not sure.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Teachers are expected to be social workers these days it feels to me.
Surely they should ask your permission first?
They did ask permission.
I just looked online, and apparently one reason is to check you really live where you say you live.
Given that they made an appointment, you could have just arranged to be at your fake address and staged it with photographs, toys and old bills...
If that’s a standard Q&A I suspect that q21 & 22 set out the detailed answer to the same question phrased slightly differently and they assume their readers are intelligent t enough to u derstand that.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Teachers are expected to be social workers these days it feels to me.
Surely they should ask your permission first?
They did ask permission.
I just looked online, and apparently one reason is to check you really live where you say you live.
Weird. How much free time to teachers have that they can spend time visiting each and every one of their pupils? Were you wearing your balaclava when you first dropped your kid off or something?
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Teachers are expected to be social workers these days it feels to me.
Surely they should ask your permission first?
They did ask permission.
I just looked online, and apparently one reason is to check you really live where you say you live.
Given that they made an appointment, you could have just arranged to be at your fake address and staged it with photographs, toys and old bills...
And spent enough time there that you keep d is relaxed and at ease...
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
Sounds like nanny state checking up on you, not a good trend and has no bearing on job they should be doing. Sounds like bollox to me.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Teachers are expected to be social workers these days it feels to me.
Surely they should ask your permission first?
They did ask permission.
I just looked online, and apparently one reason is to check you really live where you say you live.
Weird. How much free time to teachers have that they can spend time visiting each and every one of their pupils? Were you wearing your balaclava when you first dropped your kid off or something?
If that’s a standard Q&A I suspect that q21 & 22 set out the detailed answer to the same question phrased slightly differently and they assume their readers are intelligent t enough to u derstand that.
Michael Deacon is just being mischievous
I suspect not. However neither of us is investing any time to confirm.
If that’s a standard Q&A I suspect that q21 & 22 set out the detailed answer to the same question phrased slightly differently and they assume their readers are intelligent t enough to u derstand that.
Michael Deacon is just being mischievous
I suspect not. However neither of us is investing any time to confirm.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Teachers are expected to be social workers these days it feels to me.
Surely they should ask your permission first?
They did ask permission.
I just looked online, and apparently one reason is to check you really live where you say you live.
Weird. How much free time to teachers have that they can spend time visiting each and every one of their pupils? Were you wearing your balaclava when you first dropped your kid off or something?
That's the odd thing: he was in nursery at the same school for the last academic year, so he knows the school, they know us, and we're fairly happy.
For the first two weeks they're at school for mornings only, and I think they use the afternoons for the inspection visits. Of the four primary schools in the village, at least three of the do this (unsure about the fourth).
I did wear my balaclava to drop him off once, but it was snowing heavily so I was more sensible than those who didn't even wear hats ...
As I take it that you'd ne in favour, you might explain what "remain" means and how you will bind third parties to agree with what you will argue that it means. Without that, any result would be as illegitimate as the previous referendum.
Referendums in different countries can't negotiate with each other, so using them as a way to extra-territorialise the democratic wishes of one electorate is illegitimate, as you say. Nevertheless, if the European Council agrees in advance that they would accept a revocation of Article 50 in the event of a referendum win for Remain, then this problem doesn't apply.
And if they don't presumably that kills any referendum calls stone dead?
The precedents from previous referendums, certainly in Greece and also in Switzerland and Britain, are that when the rest of the EU say something isn't an option, you ignore them and pretend that if you vote for it hard enough your votes will be binding on all the other member states.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Teachers are expected to be social workers these days it feels to me.
Surely they should ask your permission first?
They did ask permission.
I just looked online, and apparently one reason is to check you really live where you say you live.
Weird. How much free time to teachers have that they can spend time visiting each and every one of their pupils? Were you wearing your balaclava when you first dropped your kid off or something?
That's the odd thing: he was in nursery at the same school for the last academic year, so he knows the school, they know us, and we're fairly happy.
For the first two weeks they're at school for mornings only, and I think they use the afternoons for the inspection visits. Of the four primary schools in the village, at least three of the do this (unsure about the fourth).
I did wear my balaclava to drop him off once, but it was snowing heavily so I was more sensible than those who didn't even wear hats ...
Would they have refused your child a place at school if you had said no? I'm curious under what power they are allowed to perform inspections of their pupil's homes.
I have to admit, even as a Remain voter, I was amazed that the government committed to paying the whole "divorce bill" irrespective of what the EU agreed with us in return. I always assumed that the approach would be something like "we'll give you a small amount of what you want if you agree an orderly No Deal, we'll give you a bigger amount if you agree a transition deal, and we'll give you the whole lot of what you're asking for if you give us the trade deal we want".
However, because the government has made such a spectacular balls-up of the negotiations, it's much too late to take such an approach now, and at this stage we have no choice but to accept whatever Barnier gives us, humiliating as it is.
The money is a settlement of outstanding obligations. It allows a two year stand still "transition" and it enables future talks to proceed. It will also be more than £39 billion but as the payments stretch into the future no-one really cares.
The point is, no deal isn't the status quo. It is a very chaotic absence of arrangements. Any realistic alternative is better than that.
If that’s a standard Q&A I suspect that q21 & 22 set out the detailed answer to the same question phrased slightly differently and they assume their readers are intelligent t enough to u derstand that.
Michael Deacon is just being mischievous
I suspect not. However neither of us is investing any time to confirm.
It's extremely mischievous because the text underneath has been blanked out:
They haven't got a fucking clue what to do, how to do it, when to do it, or who to do it to.
All they've got are lies, union jacks, economic illiteracy, and fewer-people-talking-funny-in-Starbucks.
So much desperation from the ardent remainers. Yeah course that's all Leave has got (if you willfully ignore all the arguments). I'm not sure some 'grown ups' are ever going to come to terms with Brexit. Embarrassing.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
It gets worse. Wait till you have to fill in reports on how junior responds to the books he brings home for you to read to him. Especially when there is no box for "ignored story completely and kept trying to talk to me about Mary's mum's glittery pink and blue fingernails".
If that’s a standard Q&A I suspect that q21 & 22 set out the detailed answer to the same question phrased slightly differently and they assume their readers are intelligent t enough to u derstand that.
Michael Deacon is just being mischievous
I suspect not. However neither of us is investing any time to confirm.
It's extremely mischievous because the text underneath has been blanked out:
However going to p21 as directed, I came across this gem: "Furthermore, in the short-term, under WTO rules, we have the authority to reduce/eliminate tariffs on our imports if we wish and wave through imports from the EU with minimal or no physical checks, as we do today. Thus, claims that there will be import shortages are completely baseless. Of course, under WTO MFN rules, we also would have to make such reductions available to non-EU countries."
I translate this from Brexiteer to Reality as "If we want to keep food on the table, and stop all the diabetics from dying, we need to open our borders and accept whatever China wants to send our way."
Very reassuring to the manufacturing sector, I'm sure.
If that’s a standard Q&A I suspect that q21 & 22 set out the detailed answer to the same question phrased slightly differently and they assume their readers are intelligent t enough to u derstand that.
Michael Deacon is just being mischievous
I suspect not. However neither of us is investing any time to confirm.
It's extremely mischievous because the text underneath has been blanked out:
I thought this site was trying to stop people spreading fake news like that? Still, if it makes remainers feel a bit happier for a few minutes then I suppose it's okay.
Ditched lurking to ask the legal brains trust a question if I may. I have tried to find the answer for months but few have the answer! My question is: Is a will drawn up in Scotland, legal in England when one has moved back home to live in England?
Which is why May needs to shift to CETA - the only plan that will get through the Commons. After she tells Barnier to stick the NI backstop, of course. Which judging by the current impasse she is going to have to do anyway.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Teachers are expected to be social workers these days it feels to me.
Surely they should ask your permission first?
They did ask permission.
I just looked online, and apparently one reason is to check you really live where you say you live.
Weird. How much free time to teachers have that they can spend time visiting each and every one of their pupils? Were you wearing your balaclava when you first dropped your kid off or something?
That's the odd thing: he was in nursery at the same school for the last academic year, so he knows the school, they know us, and we're fairly happy.
For the first two weeks they're at school for mornings only, and I think they use the afternoons for the inspection visits. Of the four primary schools in the village, at least three of the do this (unsure about the fourth).
I did wear my balaclava to drop him off once, but it was snowing heavily so I was more sensible than those who didn't even wear hats ...
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Quick count of the number of books in the house will give the teacher a great idea of which of the kids will struggle the most, while also seeing something to act as common ground to help build a relationship with the child.
They haven't got a fucking clue what to do, how to do it, when to do it, or who to do it to.
All they've got are lies, union jacks, economic illiteracy, and fewer-people-talking-funny-in-Starbucks.
So much desperation from the ardent remainers. Yeah course that's all Leave has got (if you willfully ignore all the arguments). I'm not sure some 'grown ups' are ever going to come to terms with Brexit. Embarrassing.
I suppose you are counting down the days until we will be able to repeal Droit de Suite.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Teachers are expected to be social workers these days it feels to me.
Surely they should ask your permission first?
They did ask permission.
I just looked online, and apparently one reason is to check you really live where you say you live.
Weird. How much free time to teachers have that they can spend time visiting each and every one of their pupils? Were you wearing your balaclava when you first dropped your kid off or something?
That's the odd thing: he was in nursery at the same school for the last academic year, so he knows the school, they know us, and we're fairly happy.
For the first two weeks they're at school for mornings only, and I think they use the afternoons for the inspection visits. Of the four primary schools in the village, at least three of the do this (unsure about the fourth).
I did wear my balaclava to drop him off once, but it was snowing heavily so I was more sensible than those who didn't even wear hats ...
Would they have refused your child a place at school if you had said no? I'm curious under what power they are allowed to perform inspections of their pupil's homes.
They accepted him before this came up, so I doubt they could refuse him a place - and I'm not going to try!
I get the impression it's not meant to be an inspection, but it sure feels like one. I shall report later once it's over ...
If that’s a standard Q&A I suspect that q21 & 22 set out the detailed answer to the same question phrased slightly differently and they assume their readers are intelligent t enough to u derstand that.
Michael Deacon is just being mischievous
I suspect not. However neither of us is investing any time to confirm.
It's extremely mischievous because the text underneath has been blanked out:
I thought this site was trying to stop people spreading fake news like that? Still, if it makes remainers feel a bit happier for a few minutes then I suppose it's okay.
Well I thought a Telegraph journalist would have been a trusted source... shows how far they have fallen!
They haven't got a fucking clue what to do, how to do it, when to do it, or who to do it to.
All they've got are lies, union jacks, economic illiteracy, and fewer-people-talking-funny-in-Starbucks.
So much desperation from the ardent remainers. Yeah course that's all Leave has got (if you willfully ignore all the arguments). I'm not sure some 'grown ups' are ever going to come to terms with Brexit. Embarrassing.
Not desperation, despair.
Which "Leave" to you mean, which of the mutually contradictory, universally hopeless cliques do you cleave to?
If that’s a standard Q&A I suspect that q21 & 22 set out the detailed answer to the same question phrased slightly differently and they assume their readers are intelligent t enough to u derstand that.
Michael Deacon is just being mischievous
I suspect not. However neither of us is investing any time to confirm.
It's extremely mischievous because the text underneath has been blanked out:
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Teachers are expected to be social workers these days it feels to me.
Surely they should ask your permission first?
They did ask permission.
I just looked online, and apparently one reason is to check you really live where you say you live.
Weird. How much free time to teachers have that they can spend time visiting each and every one of their pupils? Were you wearing your balaclava when you first dropped your kid off or something?
That's the odd thing: he was in nursery at the same school for the last academic year, so he knows the school, they know us, and we're fairly happy.
For the first two weeks they're at school for mornings only, and I think they use the afternoons for the inspection visits. Of the four primary schools in the village, at least three of the do this (unsure about the fourth).
I did wear my balaclava to drop him off once, but it was snowing heavily so I was more sensible than those who didn't even wear hats ...
Would they have refused your child a place at school if you had said no? I'm curious under what power they are allowed to perform inspections of their pupil's homes.
They accepted him before this came up, so I doubt they could refuse him a place - and I'm not going to try!
I get the impression it's not meant to be an inspection, but it sure feels like one. I shall report later once it's over ...
You can bet your bottom dollar that they would report you if they saw something suspicious. So it's an inspection in all but name.
So much desperation from the ardent remainers. Yeah course that's all Leave has got (if you willfully ignore all the arguments). I'm not sure some 'grown ups' are ever going to come to terms with Brexit. Embarrassing.
If that’s a standard Q&A I suspect that q21 & 22 set out the detailed answer to the same question phrased slightly differently and they assume their readers are intelligent t enough to u derstand that.
Michael Deacon is just being mischievous
I suspect not. However neither of us is investing any time to confirm.
It's extremely mischievous because the text underneath has been blanked out:
I thought this site was trying to stop people spreading fake news like that? Still, if it makes remainers feel a bit happier for a few minutes then I suppose it's okay.
Well I thought a Telegraph journalist would have been a trusted source... shows how far they have fallen!
In fairness Michael Deacon isn't much of a journalist, he's more their zany social media guy.
If that’s a standard Q&A I suspect that q21 & 22 set out the detailed answer to the same question phrased slightly differently and they assume their readers are intelligent t enough to u derstand that.
Michael Deacon is just being mischievous
I suspect not. However neither of us is investing any time to confirm.
It's extremely mischievous because the text underneath has been blanked out:
I thought this site was trying to stop people spreading fake news like that? Still, if it makes remainers feel a bit happier for a few minutes then I suppose it's okay.
Well I thought a Telegraph journalist would have been a trusted source... shows how far they have fallen!
In fairness Michael Deacon isn't much of a journalist, he's more their zany social media guy.
That's the new title for correspondent at the Telegraph.
They haven't got a fucking clue what to do, how to do it, when to do it, or who to do it to.
All they've got are lies, union jacks, economic illiteracy, and fewer-people-talking-funny-in-Starbucks.
So much desperation from the ardent remainers. Yeah course that's all Leave has got (if you willfully ignore all the arguments). I'm not sure some 'grown ups' are ever going to come to terms with Brexit. Embarrassing.
Not desperation, despair.
Which "Leave" to you mean, which of the mutually contradictory, universally hopeless cliques do you cleave to?
The leave that doesn't pedal fake information straight from twitter without checking if it's factually accurate. What sort of remain are you?
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Teachers are expected to be social workers these days it feels to me.
Surely they should ask your permission first?
They did ask permission.
I just looked online, and apparently one reason is to check you really live where you say you live.
Weird. How much free time to teachers have that they can spend time visiting each and every one of their pupils? Were you wearing your balaclava when you first dropped your kid off or something?
That's the odd thing: he was in nursery at the same school for the last academic year, so he knows the school, they know us, and we're fairly happy.
For the first two weeks they're at school for mornings only, and I think they use the afternoons for the inspection visits. Of the four primary schools in the village, at least three of the do this (unsure about the fourth).
I did wear my balaclava to drop him off once, but it was snowing heavily so I was more sensible than those who didn't even wear hats ...
Would they have refused your child a place at school if you had said no? I'm curious under what power they are allowed to perform inspections of their pupil's homes.
They accepted him before this came up, so I doubt they could refuse him a place - and I'm not going to try!
I get the impression it's not meant to be an inspection, but it sure feels like one. I shall report later once it's over ...
You can bet your bottom dollar that they would report you if they saw something suspicious. So it's an inspection in all but name.
You could have some fun with them by hanging a large UKIP banner in the lounge and photos of Maggie in the hall etc.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Teachers are expected to be social workers these days it feels to me.
Surely they should ask your permission first?
They did ask permission.
I just looked online, and apparently one reason is to check you really live where you say you live.
Weird. How much free time to teachers have that they can spend time visiting each and every one of their pupils? Were you wearing your balaclava when you first dropped your kid off or something?
That's the odd thing: he was in nursery at the same school for the last academic year, so he knows the school, they know us, and we're fairly happy.
For the first two weeks they're at school for mornings only, and I think they use the afternoons for the inspection visits. Of the four primary schools in the village, at least three of the do this (unsure about the fourth).
I did wear my balaclava to drop him off once, but it was snowing heavily so I was more sensible than those who didn't even wear hats ...
Would they have refused your child a place at school if you had said no? I'm curious under what power they are allowed to perform inspections of their pupil's homes.
They accepted him before this came up, so I doubt they could refuse him a place - and I'm not going to try!
I get the impression it's not meant to be an inspection, but it sure feels like one. I shall report later once it's over ...
You can bet your bottom dollar that they would report you if they saw something suspicious. So it's an inspection in all but name.
I think after various child abuse death scandals current safeguarding rules mean that they would be obliged to report anything suspicious.
So desperate to make clever debating points you don’t stop to read and think
They could be wrong. But it’s not internally contradictory
We should remember this is the same crew that said long-term economic forecasts were laughable and worthless when they pointed to a negative consequence of Brexit. Quite the Damascene conversion now they've got their tame economist to pen a report.
So desperate to make clever debating points you don’t stop to read and think
They could be wrong. But it’s not internally contradictory
We should remember this is the same crew that said long-term economic forecasts were laughable and worthless when they pointed to a negative consequence of Brexit. Quite the Damascene conversion now they've got their tame economist to pen a report.
JRM today: No-deal Brexit will boost UK economy by £1.1 trillion over 15 years
They haven't got a fucking clue what to do, how to do it, when to do it, or who to do it to.
All they've got are lies, union jacks, economic illiteracy, and fewer-people-talking-funny-in-Starbucks.
So much desperation from the ardent remainers. Yeah course that's all Leave has got (if you willfully ignore all the arguments). I'm not sure some 'grown ups' are ever going to come to terms with Brexit. Embarrassing.
Not desperation, despair.
Which "Leave" to you mean, which of the mutually contradictory, universally hopeless cliques do you cleave to?
The leave that doesn't pedal fake information straight from twitter without checking if it's factually accurate. What sort of remain are you?
There is no such Leave. It's *all* predicated on fake information and deceptive promises.
Of course, the "fake information" your accusing me of pedalling was from "Michael Deacon ... their zany social media guy", as you so helpfully put it. Are you a literalist to boot? (not a literal boot)
In the second screenshot they say that much of the current account deficit has been eliminated (and so no further devaluation is likely). What do people think? Is that a fair and accurate summary of the current account deficit figures?
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
That feels very invasive to me. Surely the very presence of his teacher will change how he plays in his home environment - thus rendering the observation rather pointless...
Agree. A bit creepy, that.
Possibly just looking out for red flags in their home life?
Teachers are expected to be social workers these days it feels to me.
Surely they should ask your permission first?
They did ask permission.
I just looked online, and apparently one reason is to check you really live where you say you live.
Well, with Stamp Duty, solicitors fees, removals etc it's so much cheaper to just lie that you live in the catchment area....
So desperate to make clever debating points you don’t stop to read and think
They could be wrong. But it’s not internally contradictory
We should remember this is the same crew that said long-term economic forecasts were laughable and worthless when they pointed to a negative consequence of Brexit. Quite the Damascene conversion now they've got their tame economist to pen a report.
I think most long-term economic forecasts of whatever stripe are useless.
Demographic forecasts are less so - one reason being because you tend to get 18 year notice of those - but the correlation isn’t 1:1.
Very few economic forecasters seem to be able to understand or forecast the impact of AI on the need for mass immigration of low-skilled labour (or indeed on anything else) which may make this stuff all look very horse & cart in 20 years time.
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But, it is hard to see it happening.
O'Rourke is an interesting outside bet for Potus.
Wanting the best for your own kids is undeniably selfish, but also a very, very human thing to do.
My old boss was ex-private equity and also (funnily enough) very, very left wing. Voted for JC with enthusiasm. He could afford private schooling but chose not to as he felt it was societally divisive and fundamentally unfair to poorer children. He later fessed up - very sheepishly - to spending an absolute fortune of private tutors to get his kids into the university of their choice...
I have no issue with people seeking the best for their kids and using their wealth to secure that - but at least those sending their kids to private schools aren't hypocritical about it. Look at me - aren't I so right on that I send by daughter to Camden school for girls (a high performing state school near Hampstead where many of the Labour elite and glitterati send their kids to school). You can support state education - the only price is being able to pay £1.5 million for a house in the catchment area!
The studies only tell part of the story - because there are no grammar schools left in really deprived areas with Labour run councils. They tend to be in the Tory shires and Tory outer suburbs.
Social mobility has hardly improved in the last 20 years since we moved to selection by house prices.
Oh God... Let's hope he knows who the 27 countries are and that the letter is about aviation and not what he got for Christmas.
I think.
https://twitter.com/ParlyApp/status/1039473074998009857
Either (a) free movement+right to be treated like a U.K. citizen or (b) the welfare system has to give.
My little 'un started reception today, mornings only for the first two weeks. This afternoon we're having a visit from his teachers, where they come and have a chat and see him play in his home environment. It seems many (all?) schools in this area do this.
I don't think it happened when I was a kid, so when did this start, and how widespread is it?
I would be happier never to see referendums rear their head again unless the implementation of it is a wholly domestic matter and it is made clear how it will be implemented - see by way of example the Irish referendum on abortion.
As I take it that you'd ne in favour, you might explain what "remain" means and how you will bind third parties to agree with what you will argue that it means. Without that, any result would be as illegitimate as the previous referendum.
Friends of ours had theirs last week (for a different school), and it lasted all of ten minutes.
But yes, it does feel a little as though we're being examined.
However, because the government has made such a spectacular balls-up of the negotiations, it's much too late to take such an approach now, and at this stage we have no choice but to accept whatever Barnier gives us, humiliating as it is.
https://twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/status/1039472978126417920
There are whole other sections of local government already tasked with that. It feels as though teachers are being used as Trojan Horses.
https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1039481310878810113
Surely they should ask your permission first?
I just looked online, and apparently one reason is to check you really live where you say you live.
* Including Manx, Welsh and Cornish. Excluding Breton.
Whether this particular example goes too far- and in fact whether that's the real reason at all- I'm not sure.
Michael Deacon is just being mischievous
For the first two weeks they're at school for mornings only, and I think they use the afternoons for the inspection visits. Of the four primary schools in the village, at least three of the do this (unsure about the fourth).
I did wear my balaclava to drop him off once, but it was snowing heavily so I was more sensible than those who didn't even wear hats ...
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/south-yorkshire-police-relentlessly-mocked-after-urging-people-to-report-one-another-for-offensive-a3932131.html
All they've got are lies, union jacks, economic illiteracy, and fewer-people-talking-funny-in-Starbucks.
Always dangerous.
The point is, no deal isn't the status quo. It is a very chaotic absence of arrangements. Any realistic alternative is better than that.
https://www.economistsforfreetrade.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/A-World-Trade-Deal-The-Complete-Guide-Final-Upload.pdf
p 16/19
However going to p21 as directed, I came across this gem:
"Furthermore, in the short-term, under WTO rules, we have the authority to reduce/eliminate tariffs on our imports if we wish and wave through imports from the EU with minimal or no physical checks, as we do today. Thus, claims that there will be import shortages are completely baseless. Of course, under WTO MFN rules, we also would have to make such reductions available to non-EU countries."
I translate this from Brexiteer to Reality as "If we want to keep food on the table, and stop all the diabetics from dying, we need to open our borders and accept whatever China wants to send our way."
Very reassuring to the manufacturing sector, I'm sure.
So desperate to make clever debating points you don’t stop to read and think
They could be wrong. But it’s not internally contradictory
https://mumsnet.com/Talk/primary/992170-Home-visits-for-children-starting-reception-why
I get the impression it's not meant to be an inspection, but it sure feels like one. I shall report later once it's over ...
Which "Leave" to you mean, which of the mutually contradictory, universally hopeless cliques do you cleave to?
Deacon’s ok because he’s meant to be s humorist rather than a serious journalist
But my serious point is this is why people don’t trust the news anymore
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/10/jacob-rees-mogg-no-deal-brexit-will-boost-uk-economy-11-trillion/
JRM a few weeks ago
https://www.facebook.com/TelePolitics/videos/jacob-rees-mogg-bad-forecasters-come-up-with-bad-forecasts/1436203103175286/
Of course, the "fake information" your accusing me of pedalling was from "Michael Deacon ... their zany social media guy", as you so helpfully put it. Are you a literalist to boot? (not a literal boot)
Demographic forecasts are less so - one reason being because you tend to get 18 year notice of those - but the correlation isn’t 1:1.
Very few economic forecasters seem to be able to understand or forecast the impact of AI on the need for mass immigration of low-skilled labour (or indeed on anything else) which may make this stuff all look very horse & cart in 20 years time.