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Voters disagree with Cameron’s description of Margaret Thatcher as “the greatest British peacetime prime minister” by 41 per cent to 33 per cent, according to a ComRes poll for tomorrow’s Independent on Sunday, shared with the Sunday Mirror. And 60 per cent oppose taxpayer funding for next week’s funeral.
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I think only John Major knows whether she was involved and, judging by this (Q872 on), it doesn't look like he's going to tell anyone http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200304/cmselect/cmpubadm/212/4052005.htm
Knowing full the Baronetcy would pass onto her son in the future.
Who needs Burkes when you have me, ahem.
"This crap is ridiculous, and is ruining your blog."
Don't be such a drama queen. You've been saying Mike has been ruining this blog since before it hit the internet !!
Agree 25% Disagree 38% Don’t know 38%
I look forward to a 3 month wait for a landline...
http://comres.co.uk/poll/901/independent-on-sunday-sunday-mirror-political-poll.htm
Fully a third of the British electorate
Tory Core Vote in "Worship Thatcher" Shocker.
"Who needs Burkes when you have me, ahem."
We at PB have always regarded you as very much more than a burk(e)
I have heard various anecdotes about Churchill declining the offer of a Duchy.
One is that his son Randolph didn't want it (sometimes expressed as Winston believing he didn't deserve it but don't tell this to tim).
Far more likely, in my humble and completely unresearched opinion, is that Churchill realised he had already established a reputation for himself and place in history that didn't need any further enhancement. Also as a scion but not heir of the Dukes of Malborough, he will have both enjoyed and seen the limits of the title. Sometimes an individual can achieve such greatness that even self-deprecation and denial cannot be tainted by the accusation of false modesty.
On the use of "less" for "fewer", I am not a militant semanticist. Language and meaning changes with usage and "less" will already be defined as a variant of "fewer" in today's dictionaries. Fewer is still preferable but I lose no sleep over the occasional 'misuse'. I worry more about using "that" in place of "which", for example. As Churchill might have said it is a usage "up with which he would not put".
Telephone companies have surely got better (though much is down to technological advances of course)
Gas and electricity, probably worse.
I'll be glad when we get the old girls funeral over and done and we can all move on, to be honest.
You can't simultaneously trail changes as "disastrous", then say "they failed to boost their polls".
Labour 38%
Clearly a dreadful idea...
Can you divulge with us whether back in the day Mrs Thatcher ever had cause to become familier with your ARSE?
tim, part of the reason that the Conservative vote is dropping, is that much of Labours policy is quite acceptable to centrist tory voters. As Mrs T said, her final triumph was New Labour, and for all his faults Ed Milliband will govern as new Labour. It is why the hard left hate her so much, her victory was total. We have Blue-Labour.
The May local elections will prove exactly how 'astute' the PB tories always are.
And the reason why John Major didn't make the Thatcher peerage a hereditary peerage.
So about half of the people who lived through Thatcher's governments and had experienced those before think she was the greatest peace time pm. All the other age groups have to rely on second hand BBC garbage so they don't count.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200304/cmselect/cmpubadm/212/4052005.htm
Was the PPB written by the PB tories? Oh...hang on...
LOL
*tears of laughter etc.*
Course you aren't dear, course you aren't.
"We're into Sunil On Sunday territory here..."
Is that vast organ still publishing ?!? .... I thought it had gone the way of steam ?!?
that's a bit harsh on Porkie, anyone supoporting a Nato centric, Pounds Sterling, Monarchist party is OK by me ;-).
LOL
After all, if you can't trust someone who used to work in public relations like yourself, who can you trust? ;^)
No post (a hint - I haven't - I've consistently said "it's the economy") - and I've never worked in PR.
Your usual standard of accuracy fibbing.
'OK, so I liked quite a lot of things about her. But what I liked more than anything was what she brought out in other people; how she just had to stand there being herself and they’d divest themselves of their civilised veneer, unbidden. A whole host of characters who had previously passed for decent revealed themselves as sneering snobs when they applied themselves to Thatcher. Mary Warnock said it made her feel sick to hear that Mrs T bought her a pussy–bow blouse at Marks & Spencer; Jonathan Miller whipped himself into a self–righteous frenzy over "her odious suburban gentility". A few years later, of course, he would be banging on about the ghastly "feral", ie working–class, children disturbing the peace of his precious N W Twee neighbourhood, as suburban as any retired colonel. And who can forget the caring, anti–sexist Labour Party and its 1983 "Ditch The Bitch" campaign? She got it from her own side, too — the drunken Tory grandee who asked her at a Number 10 luncheon while she was Edward Heath’s Education Minister if there was any truth in the rumour that she was a woman.'
http://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/110576
http://www7.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2013/04/07/if-stepping-up-the-rhetoric-on-welfare-was-supposed-to-boost-con-poll-ratings-it-has-yet-to-work/#vanilla-comments
Nor will it be hard to find any threads with you banging on about Thatcher, usually in faux outrage mode of course.
You also claimed to have worked with Saatchi & Saatchi for two decades. Were you lying about that or did you not notice they work in public relations at the time?
Laughable as always.
"To borrow and to borrow and to borrow is not Macbeth with a heavy cold - it's Labour policy"
True then, true now...
sad to say in 30 years Labour havn't come up with a new idea, you sort of know what balnk Ed's manifesto will be.
I worked "with" Saatchi (who are an advertising, not PR company) - but to find you ignorant in matters business leaves me unsurprised.
on PB there are no foes just trolls we haven't met yet.
This article confirms that it was announced a week or so after her resignation honours.
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/12/08/style/chronicle-911390.html
Priceless though inept spin as we have come to expect. Saatchi do PR dear and we all know it. You even specifically said you worked with Saatchi to try and defend Lord Saatchi after an embarrassing interview where he was laughed at for claiming he didn't do any PR work for Thatcher despite being paid millions by the tory party to do exactly that.
As for your wriggling over banging on about welfare and Thacher, amusing but again, hardly unexpected. Bit hard to explain why a PB tory like yourself keeps banging on about these things unless you think it's of benefit for your party, isn't it?
Keep trying. It's not getting any better but you are proving my point about PR conclusively.
The restyling now is different, so we have Georges Mockney, Tony Blairs Estuary English and Chukas amusing British Obama restyling. It all reminds me of the eighties Heineken advert:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyAgy2CngfY
Denis Thatcher was awarded his Baronetcy on the 7th of December, her resignation honours were announced on the 21st. So you've got that wrong for starters.
Have you got any real evidence?
Right.
You amusing PR drones really are full of it, aren't you?
Mercifully, this year's has sunk without trace, no doubt to the regret of some on this site...
http://xkcd.com/386/
I know, because I was reading the piece at the same time as Roger asked what Sir Mark had done to deserve a knighthood.
I would guess that legislation accounts for much more of that price rise than privatisation.
You amusing PR drones really are full of it, aren't you?
And you still clearly don't understand the difference between PR and marketing.
And why am I not surprised?
Would you care to share your area of expertise?
Andrew Hawkins @Andrew_ComRes
RT @roadto326 #Labour lead by age group in #comres poll - 18-24 (+32) 25-34 (+19) 35-44 (+19) 45-54 (+16) 55-64 (+0) 65+ (-18)
and
Andrew_ComRes notes, UKIP doing very well in 65+ age group. Tories in trouble if this stays same up until 2015, these voters will turn out
Margaret Thatcher definitely resurrected the practice with the offers of hereditary peerages to Whitelaw (who had no heir) and Macmillan (who did). The offer is always within the discretion of the current Prime Minister and Monarch, following due scrutiny and process within the civil service.
Even so, any incoming PM is likely to take into account and give great weight to the wishes of their predecessor, with Conservative PMs more likely to entertain a request for an hereditary title than a Labour PM for reasons of political policy and values.
I would be surprised if more hereditary titles were to be created in the current political environment. But we never know what might happen in the future.
For example, I would never have guessed that the Tory-Labour gap in the polls would narrow so quickly following the death of the Blessed Margaret. Its running at about 1% swing per day. Who would have thought that might happen?
The press will allow UKIP to grow unmolested until the Euros, then they will kill them.
That won't require much effort as almost all the ammunition will be provided from within UKIP itself.
Seems it hasn't happened though.
I'm sure Roger will be happy to explain how advertising agencies work if you ask him nicely.
And your area if expertise is?
And I see once again that @Roger is obsessing about me in my absence and about Likes. A most peculiar idea fixe. Still, whatever makes him happy :^ )