The NC9 congressional scandal is getting deeper and more detailed. It seems a clearly organised effort to con elderly voters out of their absentee ballot and to either destroy them or get them submitted for the GOP candidate if not already filled in.
TMay has to win the MV; her future, and arguably the country's, depends on it.
She can probably convince a few Tory waverers but the hardline ERG headbangers have nothing to lose, and potentially everything to gain, from seeing the MV fail.
Therefore she has to reach out to the opposition, for whom, taken at face value, the WA is not really so bad.
Two questions:
1. Is she or are her advisers intelligent enough to understand that.
2. If so, what can they offer Labour? (Since the SNP/LDs/PC together don't have sufficient numbers.)
Meanwhile, a new YouGov poll published on Sunday shows support for staying in the EU at the highest level recorded by the company since the 2016 referendum. The poll of 1,655 people conducted last week shows remaining in the EU now has a 10-point lead over leaving when people are asked whether or not they want to proceed with Brexit.
In the survey for the People’s Vote campaign, support for staying is now at 55% compared with 45% for leaving the EU once “don’t knows are excluded”. Separate surveys conducted in the four neighbouring London seats represented by Corbyn, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, shadow home secretary Diane Abbott and Starmer show overwhelming support, and suggest all four would lose votes to other parties if Labour eventually backed a Brexit deal.
While Theresa May, who was attending the G20 summit in Argentina on Saturday, insists she will win over sufficient MPs to get her Brexit deal through parliament, evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it.
On Saturday the Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe urged May to do everything she could to avoid a no-deal Brexit, suggesting that investors from Japan need predictability and stability.
Meanwhile, a new YouGov poll published on Sunday shows support for staying in the EU at the highest level recorded by the company since the 2016 referendum. The poll of 1,655 people conducted last week shows remaining in the EU now has a 10-point lead over leaving when people are asked whether or not they want to proceed with Brexit.
In the survey for the People’s Vote campaign, support for staying is now at 55% compared with 45% for leaving the EU once “don’t knows are excluded”. Separate surveys conducted in the four neighbouring London seats represented by Corbyn, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, shadow home secretary Diane Abbott and Starmer show overwhelming support, and suggest all four would lose votes to other parties if Labour eventually backed a Brexit deal.
While Theresa May, who was attending the G20 summit in Argentina on Saturday, insists she will win over sufficient MPs to get her Brexit deal through parliament, evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it.
On Saturday the Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe urged May to do everything she could to avoid a no-deal Brexit, suggesting that investors from Japan need predictability and stability.
"...evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it."
Genuine question: how closely do ConservativeHome poll respondents reflect Conservative members?
Meanwhile, a new YouGov poll published on Sunday shows support for staying in the EU at the highest level recorded by the company since the 2016 referendum. The poll of 1,655 people conducted last week shows remaining in the EU now has a 10-point lead over leaving when people are asked whether or not they want to proceed with Brexit.
In the survey for the People’s Vote campaign, support for staying is now at 55% compared with 45% for leaving the EU once “don’t knows are excluded”. Separate surveys conducted in the four neighbouring London seats represented by Corbyn, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, shadow home secretary Diane Abbott and Starmer show overwhelming support, and suggest all four would lose votes to other parties if Labour eventually backed a Brexit deal.
While Theresa May, who was attending the G20 summit in Argentina on Saturday, insists she will win over sufficient MPs to get her Brexit deal through parliament, evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it.
On Saturday the Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe urged May to do everything she could to avoid a no-deal Brexit, suggesting that investors from Japan need predictability and stability.
"...evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it."
Genuine question: how closely do ConservativeHome poll respondents reflect Conservative members?
I think that comment says more about the casual verification procedures of certain journalists than about Conservative activists.
Which is a shame because along with the Financial Times the Guardian is one paper I thought was resisting the collapse in quality across the sector.
Meanwhile, a new YouGov poll published on Sunday shows support for staying in the EU at the highest level recorded by the company since the 2016 referendum. The poll of 1,655 people conducted last week shows remaining in the EU now has a 10-point lead over leaving when people are asked whether or not they want to proceed with Brexit.
In the survey for the People’s Vote campaign, support for staying is now at 55% compared with 45% for leaving the EU once “don’t knows are excluded”. Separate surveys conducted in the four neighbouring London seats represented by Corbyn, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, shadow home secretary Diane Abbott and Starmer show overwhelming support, and suggest all four would lose votes to other parties if Labour eventually backed a Brexit deal.
While Theresa May, who was attending the G20 summit in Argentina on Saturday, insists she will win over sufficient MPs to get her Brexit deal through parliament, evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it.
On Saturday the Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe urged May to do everything she could to avoid a no-deal Brexit, suggesting that investors from Japan need predictability and stability.
"...evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it."
Genuine question: how closely do ConservativeHome poll respondents reflect Conservative members?
Meanwhile, a new YouGov poll published on Sunday shows support for staying in the EU at the highest level recorded by the company since the 2016 referendum. The poll of 1,655 people conducted last week shows remaining in the EU now has a 10-point lead over leaving when people are asked whether or not they want to proceed with Brexit.
In the survey for the People’s Vote campaign, support for staying is now at 55% compared with 45% for leaving the EU once “don’t knows are excluded”. Separate surveys conducted in the four neighbouring London seats represented by Corbyn, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, shadow home secretary Diane Abbott and Starmer show overwhelming support, and suggest all four would lose votes to other parties if Labour eventually backed a Brexit deal.
While Theresa May, who was attending the G20 summit in Argentina on Saturday, insists she will win over sufficient MPs to get her Brexit deal through parliament, evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it.
On Saturday the Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe urged May to do everything she could to avoid a no-deal Brexit, suggesting that investors from Japan need predictability and stability.
"...evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it."
Genuine question: how closely do ConservativeHome poll respondents reflect Conservative members?
Meanwhile, a new YouGov poll published on Sunday shows support for staying in the EU at the highest level recorded by the company since the 2016 referendum. The poll of 1,655 people conducted last week shows remaining in the EU now has a 10-point lead over leaving when people are asked whether or not they want to proceed with Brexit.
In the survey for the People’s Vote campaign, support for staying is now at 55% compared with 45% for leaving the EU once “don’t knows are excluded”. Separate surveys conducted in the four neighbouring London seats represented by Corbyn, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, shadow home secretary Diane Abbott and Starmer show overwhelming support, and suggest all four would lose votes to other parties if Labour eventually backed a Brexit deal.
While Theresa May, who was attending the G20 summit in Argentina on Saturday, insists she will win over sufficient MPs to get her Brexit deal through parliament, evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it.
On Saturday the Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe urged May to do everything she could to avoid a no-deal Brexit, suggesting that investors from Japan need predictability and stability.
Meanwhile, a new YouGov poll published on Sunday shows support for staying in the EU at the highest level recorded by the company since the 2016 referendum. The poll of 1,655 people conducted last week shows remaining in the EU now has a 10-point lead over leaving when people are asked whether or not they want to proceed with Brexit.
In the survey for the People’s Vote campaign, support for staying is now at 55% compared with 45% for leaving the EU once “don’t knows are excluded”. Separate surveys conducted in the four neighbouring London seats represented by Corbyn, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, shadow home secretary Diane Abbott and Starmer show overwhelming support, and suggest all four would lose votes to other parties if Labour eventually backed a Brexit deal.
While Theresa May, who was attending the G20 summit in Argentina on Saturday, insists she will win over sufficient MPs to get her Brexit deal through parliament, evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it.
On Saturday the Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe urged May to do everything she could to avoid a no-deal Brexit, suggesting that investors from Japan need predictability and stability.
Gyimah's resignation was out of the blue and a bit random. You'd think he would have done it as near the vote as possible.
*Unless* there's a pre-planned remainer resignation timetable in play.
That's what I'm hoping for.
The Advent Calendar series?
Behind door 11 is a chocolate Michael Gove holding an English-Norwegian phrase book.
Behind door 12 is a chocolate teapot pointing to Theresa May's deal.....and laughing.
Just remind me again Marquee what is so terrible about May's deal?
One word? Backstop.
Hotel California Brexit is no Brexit. It gives away our negotiating position for the Trade Agreement.
No, it doesn't. It takes away the EU's negotiating position as it means they can no longer threaten to close the border. All those scare stories about lorries backed up at Dover, or medicines not arriving or our supply chains broken will be invalidated.
And it's like any international treaty. We can withdraw from it whenever we want to.
Meanwhile, a new YouGov poll published on Sunday shows support for staying in the EU at the highest level recorded by the company since the 2016 referendum. The poll of 1,655 people conducted last week shows remaining in the EU now has a 10-point lead over leaving when people are asked whether or not they want to proceed with Brexit.
In the survey for the People’s Vote campaign, support for staying is now at 55% compared with 45% for leaving the EU once “don’t knows are excluded”. Separate surveys conducted in the four neighbouring London seats represented by Corbyn, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, shadow home secretary Diane Abbott and Starmer show overwhelming support, and suggest all four would lose votes to other parties if Labour eventually backed a Brexit deal.
While Theresa May, who was attending the G20 summit in Argentina on Saturday, insists she will win over sufficient MPs to get her Brexit deal through parliament, evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it.
On Saturday the Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe urged May to do everything she could to avoid a no-deal Brexit, suggesting that investors from Japan need predictability and stability.
Meanwhile, a new YouGov poll published on Sunday shows support for staying in the EU at the highest level recorded by the company since the 2016 referendum. The poll of 1,655 people conducted last week shows remaining in the EU now has a 10-point lead over leaving when people are asked whether or not they want to proceed with Brexit.
In the survey for the People’s Vote campaign, support for staying is now at 55% compared with 45% for leaving the EU once “don’t knows are excluded”. Separate surveys conducted in the four neighbouring London seats represented by Corbyn, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, shadow home secretary Diane Abbott and Starmer show overwhelming support, and suggest all four would lose votes to other parties if Labour eventually backed a Brexit deal.
While Theresa May, who was attending the G20 summit in Argentina on Saturday, insists she will win over sufficient MPs to get her Brexit deal through parliament, evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it.
On Saturday the Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe urged May to do everything she could to avoid a no-deal Brexit, suggesting that investors from Japan need predictability and stability.
"...evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it."
Genuine question: how closely do ConservativeHome poll respondents reflect Conservative members?
Members yes - voters no - it is ERG to the core
ConHome's poll is self-selecting, but it has often turned up real trends amongst Tory *activists* (not members).
Tory activists being 75% against feels credible to me.
Gyimah's resignation was out of the blue and a bit random. You'd think he would have done it as near the vote as possible.
*Unless* there's a pre-planned remainer resignation timetable in play.
That's what I'm hoping for.
The Advent Calendar series?
Behind door 11 is a chocolate Michael Gove holding an English-Norwegian phrase book.
Behind door 12 is a chocolate teapot pointing to Theresa May's deal.....and laughing.
Just remind me again Marquee what is so terrible about May's deal?
One word? Backstop.
Hotel California Brexit is no Brexit. It gives away our negotiating position for the Trade Agreement.
If the EU played hardball, there's always abrogation. But they'll be keener than us to avoid an open-ended backstop because all the while we're in it we get free EU market access.
Gyimah's resignation was out of the blue and a bit random. You'd think he would have done it as near the vote as possible.
*Unless* there's a pre-planned remainer resignation timetable in play.
That's what I'm hoping for.
The Advent Calendar series?
Behind door 11 is a chocolate Michael Gove holding an English-Norwegian phrase book.
Behind door 12 is a chocolate teapot pointing to Theresa May's deal.....and laughing.
Just remind me again Marquee what is so terrible about May's deal?
One word? Backstop.
Hotel California Brexit is no Brexit. It gives away our negotiating position for the Trade Agreement.
As people pretending to be wise kept saying over and over again, Brexit is Brexit. Deal Brexit is still Brexit, there is no use pretending otherwise just because it is sub-optimal Brexit.
It's being rejected, and goodness only knows what we will get in its place, but let's stop this nonsense that it is not Brexit. We leave the EU under it, it is Brexit. Is it a Brexit worth having? Most people say no, that doesn't make it not Brexit no matter how many people cry about it.
Meanwhile, a new YouGov poll published on Sunday shows support for staying in the EU at the highest level recorded by the company since the 2016 referendum. The poll of 1,655 people conducted last week shows remaining in the EU now has a 10-point lead over leaving when people are asked whether or not they want to proceed with Brexit.
In the survey for the People’s Vote campaign, support for staying is now at 55% compared with 45% for leaving the EU once “don’t knows are excluded”. Separate surveys conducted in the four neighbouring London seats represented by Corbyn, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, shadow home secretary Diane Abbott and Starmer show overwhelming support, and suggest all four would lose votes to other parties if Labour eventually backed a Brexit deal.
While Theresa May, who was attending the G20 summit in Argentina on Saturday, insists she will win over sufficient MPs to get her Brexit deal through parliament, evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it.
On Saturday the Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe urged May to do everything she could to avoid a no-deal Brexit, suggesting that investors from Japan need predictability and stability.
"...evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it."
Genuine question: how closely do ConservativeHome poll respondents reflect Conservative members?
Members yes - voters no - it is ERG to the core
I agree on that, Tory voters were split 46% in favour of the Deal, 38% against with YouGov last week. That is helped by Tory Remainers I expect as Leavers oppose the Deal by 33% to 46%
Gyimah's resignation was out of the blue and a bit random. You'd think he would have done it as near the vote as possible.
*Unless* there's a pre-planned remainer resignation timetable in play.
That's what I'm hoping for.
The Advent Calendar series?
Behind door 11 is a chocolate Michael Gove holding an English-Norwegian phrase book.
Behind door 12 is a chocolate teapot pointing to Theresa May's deal.....and laughing.
Just remind me again Marquee what is so terrible about May's deal?
One word? Backstop.
Hotel California Brexit is no Brexit. It gives away our negotiating position for the Trade Agreement.
No, it doesn't. It takes away the EU's negotiating position as it means they can no longer threaten to close the border. All those scare stories about lorries backed up at Dover, or medicines not arriving or our supply chains broken will be invalidated.
Take a look at the Turkey-EU border and you'll see that that's nonsense. The backstop provisions for Northern Ireland are very different to the rest of the UK.
Meanwhile, a new YouGov poll published on Sunday shows support for staying in the EU at the highest level recorded by the company since the 2016 referendum. The poll of 1,655 people conducted last week shows remaining in the EU now has a 10-point lead over leaving when people are asked whether or not they want to proceed with Brexit.
In the survey for the People’s Vote campaign, support for staying is now at 55% compared with 45% for leaving the EU once “don’t knows are excluded”. Separate surveys conducted in the four neighbouring London seats represented by Corbyn, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, shadow home secretary Diane Abbott and Starmer show overwhelming support, and suggest all four would lose votes to other parties if Labour eventually backed a Brexit deal.
While Theresa May, who was attending the G20 summit in Argentina on Saturday, insists she will win over sufficient MPs to get her Brexit deal through parliament, evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it.
On Saturday the Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe urged May to do everything she could to avoid a no-deal Brexit, suggesting that investors from Japan need predictability and stability.
"...evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it."
Genuine question: how closely do ConservativeHome poll respondents reflect Conservative members?
Members yes - voters no - it is ERG to the core
ConHome's poll is self-selecting, but it has often turned up real trends amongst Tory *activists* (not members).
Tory activists being 75% against feels credible to me.
2. If so, what can they offer Labour? (Since the SNP/LDs/PC together don't have sufficient numbers.)
An election.
Yes, that was on my mind too.
No 10 cannot strictly offer an election (due to FTPA) but they could presumably make an open commitment to whip support for one, which if Labour supported too should breach the 2/3 majority required.
Does it say what position Labour would be supporting in a new referendum?
The tactical mistake everyone has made is to say that May has screwed up the negotiations. It's means they're trapped in the logic of saying we need to go back to renegotiate. Meanwhile May is executing her real plan.
Gyimah's resignation was out of the blue and a bit random. You'd think he would have done it as near the vote as possible.
*Unless* there's a pre-planned remainer resignation timetable in play.
That's what I'm hoping for.
The Advent Calendar series?
Behind door 11 is a chocolate Michael Gove holding an English-Norwegian phrase book.
Behind door 12 is a chocolate teapot pointing to Theresa May's deal.....and laughing.
Just remind me again Marquee what is so terrible about May's deal?
One word? Backstop.
Hotel California Brexit is no Brexit. It gives away our negotiating position for the Trade Agreement.
So in pursuit of "true Brexit" you are prepared to risk massive damage to the economy?
The blame - and my disdain - is for those who risked that "massive damage" by refusing to have planned for No Deal.
Weaksauce. Even if the people preparing the ground up to a significant choice deserve the greater share of blame, we are all still responsible for our own choices. There are options which avoid no deal entirely. It may be justifiable to risk that because of the failures of others to secure something else or prepare properly, but any MP casting their vote cannot say that they did not have a choice. They do, even if it is shitty or limited in a way they do not like because of others. No matter how much opprobrium anyone else deserves for the pathetic state of affairs we are in, they are still accountable whichever option they end up choosing.
Gyimah's resignation was out of the blue and a bit random. You'd think he would have done it as near the vote as possible.
*Unless* there's a pre-planned remainer resignation timetable in play.
That's what I'm hoping for.
The Advent Calendar series?
Behind door 11 is a chocolate Michael Gove holding an English-Norwegian phrase book.
Behind door 12 is a chocolate teapot pointing to Theresa May's deal.....and laughing.
Just remind me again Marquee what is so terrible about May's deal?
One word? Backstop.
Hotel California Brexit is no Brexit. It gives away our negotiating position for the Trade Agreement.
If the EU played hardball, there's always abrogation. But they'll be keener than us to avoid an open-ended backstop because all the while we're in it we get free EU market access.
And that is what the Tory MPs have to weigh up. PM May will never talk abrogation. A new leader who does might stand a chance of getting much of the party on board. Maybe. I suspect that of the quarter of ConHome correspondents saying they would vote for the deal, most hate it but are being pragmatic. 75% hate it and are not.
Does it say what position Labour would be supporting in a new referendum?
They would be supporting their arses on top of a fence.
Let's be honest, the majority of them will openly back remain no matter if the party officially takes no stance. The second referendum campaign is overwhelmingly about people making the right choice, if remain were not polling well they would not back it as an option. So in all honesty the position of the party doesn't really matter - if they can get the vote, 95% of them will go the route we know they will.
Gyimah's resignation was out of the blue and a bit random. You'd think he would have done it as near the vote as possible.
*Unless* there's a pre-planned remainer resignation timetable in play.
That's what I'm hoping for.
The Advent Calendar series?
Behind door 11 is a chocolate Michael Gove holding an English-Norwegian phrase book.
Behind door 12 is a chocolate teapot pointing to Theresa May's deal.....and laughing.
Just remind me again Marquee what is so terrible about May's deal?
One word? Backstop.
Hotel California Brexit is no Brexit. It gives away our negotiating position for the Trade Agreement.
As people pretending to be wise kept saying over and over again, Brexit is Brexit. Deal Brexit is still Brexit, there is no use pretending otherwise just because it is sub-optimal Brexit.
It's being rejected, and goodness only knows what we will get in its place, but let's stop this nonsense that it is not Brexit. We leave the EU under it, it is Brexit. Is it a Brexit worth having? Most people say no, that doesn't make it not Brexit no matter how many people cry about it.
"The justification for a GE is to negotiate a new deal, how can it be the price for support on the MV?"
Not so. Labour want a new election to gain power and implement socialist policies. Nothing to do with Brexit - they'd surely be happier if Brexit was done and dusted so that they can concentrate on the important stuff.
Does it say what position Labour would be supporting in a new referendum?
The tactical mistake everyone has made is to say that May has screwed up the negotiations. It's means they're trapped in the logic of saying we need to go back to renegotiate. Meanwhile May is executing her real plan.
That plan being to suffer the single largest parliamentary humiliation in UK history, followed by resignation?
Does it say what position Labour would be supporting in a new referendum?
The tactical mistake everyone has made is to say that May has screwed up the negotiations. It's means they're trapped in the logic of saying we need to go back to renegotiate. Meanwhile May is executing her real plan.
I don't see how they are trapped. Labour (bar a bare few who keep mostly quiet), a chunk of the Tories and every other MP in the Chamber will campaign for Remain if there's a referendum as they will say they might want to renegotiate but they haven't been given the opportunity so they must remain instead.
Gyimah's resignation was out of the blue and a bit random. You'd think he would have done it as near the vote as possible.
*Unless* there's a pre-planned remainer resignation timetable in play.
That's what I'm hoping for.
The Advent Calendar series?
Behind door 11 is a chocolate Michael Gove holding an English-Norwegian phrase book.
Behind door 12 is a chocolate teapot pointing to Theresa May's deal.....and laughing.
Just remind me again Marquee what is so terrible about May's deal?
One word? Backstop.
Hotel California Brexit is no Brexit. It gives away our negotiating position for the Trade Agreement.
As people pretending to be wise kept saying over and over again, Brexit is Brexit. Deal Brexit is still Brexit, there is no use pretending otherwise just because it is sub-optimal Brexit.
It's being rejected, and goodness only knows what we will get in its place, but let's stop this nonsense that it is not Brexit. We leave the EU under it, it is Brexit. Is it a Brexit worth having? Most people say no, that doesn't make it not Brexit no matter how many people cry about it.
"The justification for a GE is to negotiate a new deal, how can it be the price for support on the MV?"
Not so. Labour want a new election to gain power and implement socialist policies. Nothing to do with Brexit - they'd surely be happier if Brexit was done and dusted so that they can concentrate on the important stuff.
I said their justification, not their actual reason. The pretext for calling for a GE is that they can do a better job. Yes on everything, but also specifically Brexit.
Does it say what position Labour would be supporting in a new referendum?
The tactical mistake everyone has made is to say that May has screwed up the negotiations. It's means they're trapped in the logic of saying we need to go back to renegotiate. Meanwhile May is executing her real plan.
That plan being to suffer the single largest parliamentary humiliation in UK history, followed by resignation?
A cunning plan indeed.
May is outmanoeuvring everyone. She's a political genius.
I know the French national sport is rioting but the clips on the news look really bad. Is this something that will just pass or is macron government got a real crisis here? Is seems like the protests have spread beyond simply the fuel tax rise.
I think with the rise of China and AI, I think we are going to increasingly see a lot of very angry people across Europe as they realise their job for life, long vacations, early retirement is going to disappear and not sure politicians have any idea how to deal with it.
Are the French, Italians etc ready to accept that the world is going to overtake them with the Far East willing to work harder and longer and increasingly smarter.
I know the French national sport is rioting but the clips on the news look really bad. Is this something that will just pass or is macron government got a real crisis here? Is seems like the protests have spread beyond simply the fuel tax rise.
I'm always amazed that the nation of collaborators is always up for a fight amongst itself.
Notwithstanding Mr Herdson's earlier piece, and the procedural difficulties still in play, I don't see how Remain can possibly screw it up from here. Remain Tories are in open revolt just like no dealers, Labour are inches away from pivoting to Remain officially or otherwise since in a referendum they won't back May's deal or no deal, the Tories still won't want a GE, and with neither main party able to articulate consistent support for the deal even before it is overwhelmingly rejected by parliament, Remain has such a good chance of winning now.
Does it say what position Labour would be supporting in a new referendum?
The tactical mistake everyone has made is to say that May has screwed up the negotiations. It's means they're trapped in the logic of saying we need to go back to renegotiate. Meanwhile May is executing her real plan.
That plan being to suffer the single largest parliamentary humiliation in UK history, followed by resignation?
A cunning plan indeed.
May is outmanoeuvring everyone. She's a political genius.
And so selfless - sacrificing her own premiership to ensure we Remain.
Does it say what position Labour would be supporting in a new referendum?
The tactical mistake everyone has made is to say that May has screwed up the negotiations. It's means they're trapped in the logic of saying we need to go back to renegotiate. Meanwhile May is executing her real plan.
That plan being to suffer the single largest parliamentary humiliation in UK history, followed by resignation?
A cunning plan indeed.
May is outmanoeuvring everyone. She's a political genius.
And so selfless - sacrificing her own premiership to ensure we Remain.
She's not going anywhere, but I think Corbyn's days may be numbered.
I know the French national sport is rioting but the clips on the news look really bad. Is this something that will just pass or is macron government got a real crisis here? Is seems like the protests have spread beyond simply the fuel tax rise.
They have a real crisis. Article in the Speccie was saying that the arrests after last weekends riots were just normal people that have no political affiliation or previous records of demonstrating. The Far Left are organising but it is mass countryside side support. It is the poor left behind country dwellers versus the Parisian elite (who are viewed as corrupt). Jupiter is still trying to be an international statesman with big plans for Europe and having a go a Trump, whilst his people want domestic issues sorted.
"A group of City hedge fund managers were weighing up a legal challenge to force the BBC and ITV to allow Boris Johnson... to gatecrash a primetime television debate on the deal..."
Meanwhile, a new YouGov poll published on Sunday shows support for staying in the EU at the highest level recorded by the company since the 2016 referendum. The poll of 1,655 people conducted last week shows remaining in the EU now has a 10-point lead over leaving when people are asked whether or not they want to proceed with Brexit.
In the survey for the People’s Vote campaign, support for staying is now at 55% compared with 45% for leaving the EU once “don’t knows are excluded”. Separate surveys conducted in the four neighbouring London seats represented by Corbyn, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, shadow home secretary Diane Abbott and Starmer show overwhelming support, and suggest all four would lose votes to other parties if Labour eventually backed a Brexit deal.
While Theresa May, who was attending the G20 summit in Argentina on Saturday, insists she will win over sufficient MPs to get her Brexit deal through parliament, evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it.
On Saturday the Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe urged May to do everything she could to avoid a no-deal Brexit, suggesting that investors from Japan need predictability and stability.
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https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/1068926789613957120?s=20
Quite.
https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1068958448132521990?s=21
His apologism for a woman who threatened to smash in a journalist's face with a baseball bat has gone down like a bucket of cold sick on Twitter.
*Unless* there's a pre-planned remainer resignation timetable in play.
SPICY CONDORCET CHAT ACTIVATE
*gets coat*
Oh the huge manatee.
She can probably convince a few Tory waverers but the hardline ERG headbangers have nothing to lose, and potentially everything to gain, from seeing the MV fail.
Therefore she has to reach out to the opposition, for whom, taken at face value, the WA is not really so bad.
Two questions:
1. Is she or are her advisers intelligent enough to understand that.
2. If so, what can they offer Labour? (Since the SNP/LDs/PC together don't have sufficient numbers.)
Commentators seem to think that she must already have a plan B.
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1068936850734223360?s=20
But what can he do that Emily Thornberry or Stella Creasy couldn't do better?
Thornberry at PMQs could probably reduce May to mumbled incoherence.
Or there's Jess Phillips who
a) left the Labour party due to Iraq
b) told Diane Abbott to f*** off
though not apparently at the same time.
In the survey for the People’s Vote campaign, support for staying is now at 55% compared with 45% for leaving the EU once “don’t knows are excluded”. Separate surveys conducted in the four neighbouring London seats represented by Corbyn, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, shadow home secretary Diane Abbott and Starmer show overwhelming support, and suggest all four would lose votes to other parties if Labour eventually backed a Brexit deal.
While Theresa May, who was attending the G20 summit in Argentina on Saturday, insists she will win over sufficient MPs to get her Brexit deal through parliament, evidence emerged on Saturday night that Conservative activists overwhelmingly oppose the deal. A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome found 72% of Tory members are against it while only 25% back it.
On Saturday the Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe urged May to do everything she could to avoid a no-deal Brexit, suggesting that investors from Japan need predictability and stability.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/01/labour-figures-urge-party-prepare-new-brexit-vote?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Genuine question: how closely do ConservativeHome poll respondents reflect Conservative members?
Hotel California Brexit is no Brexit. It gives away our negotiating position for the Trade Agreement.
Which is a shame because along with the Financial Times the Guardian is one paper I thought was resisting the collapse in quality across the sector.
I am sure YouGov did everything to stay within polling rules - but I do always question polling done on behalf of specific campaign groups.
And it's like any international treaty. We can withdraw from it whenever we want to.
Tory activists being 75% against feels credible to me.
It's being rejected, and goodness only knows what we will get in its place, but let's stop this nonsense that it is not Brexit. We leave the EU under it, it is Brexit. Is it a Brexit worth having? Most people say no, that doesn't make it not Brexit no matter how many people cry about it.
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/lajwilf9ez/TheTimes_181129_Brexit_w.pdf
I expect even most Tory members would still back the Deal over Remain even if they want a purer Brexit
No 10 cannot strictly offer an election (due to FTPA) but they could presumably make an open commitment to whip support for one, which if Labour supported too should breach the 2/3 majority required.
Want me to list all the times David Davis thought it would be easy?
Backstop
Yet.
Not so. Labour want a new election to gain power and implement socialist policies. Nothing to do with Brexit - they'd surely be happier if Brexit was done and dusted so that they can concentrate on the important stuff.
A cunning plan indeed.
I think with the rise of China and AI, I think we are going to increasingly see a lot of very angry people across Europe as they realise their job for life, long vacations, early retirement is going to disappear and not sure politicians have any idea how to deal with it.
Are the French, Italians etc ready to accept that the world is going to overtake them with the Far East willing to work harder and longer and increasingly smarter.
What a waste.
Scalpel blades found taped to children's slide in Ormskirk
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-46411533
Good night.
It is the poor left behind country dwellers versus the Parisian elite (who are viewed as corrupt).
Jupiter is still trying to be an international statesman with big plans for Europe and having a go a Trump, whilst his people want domestic issues sorted.
"A group of City hedge fund managers were weighing up a legal challenge to force the BBC and ITV to allow Boris Johnson... to gatecrash a primetime television debate on the deal..."
WTF ??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum#On_the_day_YouGov_Poll