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While we have been almost totally focused on Brexit in the UK in Washington things are getting even worse for the president who is facing a whole series of probes relating to the 2016 campaign.

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  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 23,723
    Going, going.....
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 3,915
    I have a smallish bet on John Kasich to be next President at 130/1. he's still 100/1. But he is only 18/1 to be Republican nominee. If he is nominee, he'd stand a good chance of becoming president taking right and centre.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 23,723
    FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 23,723
    Barnesian said:

    I have a smallish bet on John Kasich to be next President at 130/1. he's still 100/1. But he is only 18/1 to be Republican nominee. If he is nominee, he'd stand a good chance of becoming president taking right and centre.

    I would say that was a decent bet, if his name didn't rhyme with ass-itch.....

    You just know Trump couldn't resist.
  • Mr. Mark, could be wrong, but isn't it a hard 'ch' - Kay-sick?
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,023

    FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....

    Gammon is carcinogenic I'm afraid.
  • Freggles said:

    FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....

    Gammon is carcinogenic I'm afraid.
    Could be fatal for the (ba)conservatives.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 23,723

    Mr. Mark, could be wrong, but isn't it a hard 'ch' - Kay-sick?

    Not if you're Trump....
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 23,723
    Freggles said:

    FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....

    Gammon is carcinogenic I'm afraid.
    So how did all those Leave voters ever make it to the polling booth.....?

    I think it is the stuff that makes food taste so damned good that is carcinogenic. Methuselah probably lived off a diet of tofu.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 23,723

    Freggles said:

    FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....

    Gammon is carcinogenic I'm afraid.
    Could be fatal for the (ba)conservatives.
    You're back on a winning streak(y)....
  • AmpfieldAndyAmpfieldAndy Posts: 1,085
    edited December 2018
    Trump is a disgrace but he still gets a lot of support for the performance of the US economy. If that falters, he’s got no chance. If that continues to perform well (excluding their ballooning national debt which doesn’t seem to worry voters) he could still win a second term.
  • FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....

    Make sure you have British sprouts to go with that gammon:

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 23,723

    FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....

    Make sure you have British sprouts to go with that gammon:

    Meet them half-way.

    Call them Waterloo Sprouts.....
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 1,545
    Yes, there must surely come a point at which it becomes sufficiently clear to a sufficient number of people that this piece of garbage cannot, other than in the blackest of black comedy fictions, be the president of the USA.

    I'm feeling more confident of his demise these days but I'd feel a little more relaxed, to be honest, if we could be sure that a 'big beautiful' US recession was just around the corner.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 3,362
    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 1,325
    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.


    Let's face it, the polls over most of the last year seem to have been entirely immune to the news.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 23,723
    Andrew said:

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.


    Let's face it, the polls over most of the last year seem to have been entirely immune to the news.
    Hasn't Opinium continually been the best for Labour though?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 23,723
    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    Sympathy vote for Theresa, probably.....
  • JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    If only voters behaved the way they were meant to then politics would be a lot simpler.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 14,826
    edited December 2018

    FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....

    I had that in my early 30s and occasionally boasted about it , as you are. Everyone at work got tested by occupational health and I was the lowest in the whole (big) company. Then some years later it turned out I had a rare sort of benign brain tumour all along, that was suppressing my cholesterol.
  • JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    When was the sampling done ?
  • JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    When was the sampling done ?
    Thursday and Friday of this week.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 33,026
    edited December 2018
    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    Quite incredible. Even if labour do manage to bring the government down, it is far from clear we won’t be back with exactly the same situation we have now.
  • Barnesian said:

    I have a smallish bet on John Kasich to be next President at 130/1. he's still 100/1. But he is only 18/1 to be Republican nominee. If he is nominee, he'd stand a good chance of becoming president taking right and centre.

    I backed Kasich last time. Never again! The focus on Hillary's campaign failings leads us to forget that Trump first beat a bunch of insipid, Establishment Republicans, including Kasich.
  • It'll be a game changer if and when one of the Trump's kids is indicted.

    I think Trump's reaction will prompt the implementation of Section 4 of the 25th Amendment.
  • JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    When was the sampling done ?
    Thursday and Friday of this week.
    Thanks. That’s a fair comment then although frankly, I’m stunned.
  • JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    Sympathy vote for Theresa, probably.....

    Maybe, maybe antipathy to Corbyn.
  • I see macron speech from behind the golden desk hadn’t stopped the fall out 76 larpers from kicking off again.
  • FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....

    Make sure you have British sprouts to go with that gammon:

    Meet them half-way.

    Call them Waterloo Sprouts.....
    Just call them sprouts. The taste is awful whatever you call them.
  • FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....

    Make sure you have British sprouts to go with that gammon:

    Meet them half-way.

    Call them Waterloo Sprouts.....
    Just call them sprouts. The taste is awful whatever you call them.
    You clearly never done them properly.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 16,943
    Betting post:
    Stacey is strong favourite for Strictly but I think Faye at 16s is value.

    DYOR (watch it!!)

    :smile:
  • Barnesian said:

    I have a smallish bet on John Kasich to be next President at 130/1. he's still 100/1. But he is only 18/1 to be Republican nominee. If he is nominee, he'd stand a good chance of becoming president taking right and centre.

    Surely Pence is the next President, if Republican, and otherwise it will be a Democrat?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 73,102
    edited December 2018
    Bruxelles sprouts are the only food worse than pineapple on pizza.
  • FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....

    Make sure you have British sprouts to go with that gammon:

    Meet them half-way.

    Call them Waterloo Sprouts.....
    Just call them sprouts. The taste is awful whatever you call them.
    Roasted sprouts are edible. I can't understand why anyone boils them.
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 6,322

    Andrew said:

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.


    Let's face it, the polls over most of the last year seem to have been entirely immune to the news.
    Hasn't Opinium continually been the best for Labour though?
    Not really.
  • TOPPING said:

    Betting post:
    Stacey is strong favourite for Strictly but I think Faye at 16s is value.

    DYOR (watch it!!)

    :smile:

    I agree.

    Joe's supporters might swing it for him.

    Am laying Ashley, she's been in the dance off for the last three week.

    We don't like ringers.
  • FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....

    Make sure you have British sprouts to go with that gammon:

    Meet them half-way.

    Call them Waterloo Sprouts.....
    Just call them sprouts. The taste is awful whatever you call them.
    You clearly never done them properly.
    Probably. I am not sure I want to know the answer but the proper way is....?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 16,593
    edited December 2018

    Barnesian said:

    I have a smallish bet on John Kasich to be next President at 130/1. he's still 100/1. But he is only 18/1 to be Republican nominee. If he is nominee, he'd stand a good chance of becoming president taking right and centre.

    Surely Pence is the next President, if Republican, and otherwise it will be a Democrat?
    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 6,322

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    Quite incredible. Even if labour do manage to bring the government down, it is far from clear we won’t be back with exactly the same situation we have now.

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    Quite incredible. Even if labour do manage to bring the government down, it is far from clear we won’t be back with exactly the same situation we have now.
    A lot of it is probably down - yet again - to the Opposition being frozen out by the commentariat.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 33,026
    edited December 2018

    FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....

    Make sure you have British sprouts to go with that gammon:

    Meet them half-way.

    Call them Waterloo Sprouts.....
    Just call them sprouts. The taste is awful whatever you call them.
    You clearly never done them properly.
    Probably. I am not sure I want to know the answer but the proper way is....?
    Roasted not boiled. Mrs urquhart roasts them with pancetta and chestnuts.
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 3,282

    FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....

    Make sure you have British sprouts to go with that gammon:

    Meet them half-way.

    Call them Waterloo Sprouts.....
    Just call them sprouts. The taste is awful whatever you call them.
    Roasted sprouts are edible. I can't understand why anyone boils them.
    I fancy some now. I think I'll go and buy some.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 16,593


    Am laying Ashley.

    TMI, Mr Eagles...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 16,593
    justin124 said:

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    Quite incredible. Even if labour do manage to bring the government down, it is far from clear we won’t be back with exactly the same situation we have now.

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    Quite incredible. Even if labour do manage to bring the government down, it is far from clear we won’t be back with exactly the same situation we have now.
    A lot of it is probably down - yet again - to the Opposition being frozen out by the commentariat.
    Or to them being led by Jeremy Corbyn. One or the other.
  • FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....

    Make sure you have British sprouts to go with that gammon:

    Meet them half-way.

    Call them Waterloo Sprouts.....
    Just call them sprouts. The taste is awful whatever you call them.
    You clearly never done them properly.
    Probably. I am not sure I want to know the answer but the proper way is....?
    Roasted not boiled. Mrs urquhart roasts them with pancetta and chestnuts.
    Thanks. I’ll pass that on to the boss but I’m not betting they’ll actually be on the Christmas menu.
  • JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    When was the sampling done ?
    Thursday and Friday of this week.
    Thanks. That’s a fair comment then although frankly, I’m stunned.
    Why - you underestimate just how popular TM is with voters
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 3,688
    edited December 2018
    TOPPING said:

    Betting post:
    Stacey is strong favourite for Strictly but I think Faye at 16s is value.

    DYOR (watch it!!)

    :smile:

    Be careful though. Joe has millions of followers, and other YouTubers have been soliciting votes for him. Could hinge on the youth turnout.
    His sister is Zoella btw. All betting inside info from my 14 yo!
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 16,943

    TOPPING said:

    Betting post:
    Stacey is strong favourite for Strictly but I think Faye at 16s is value.

    DYOR (watch it!!)

    :smile:

    I agree.

    Joe's supporters might swing it for him.

    Am laying Ashley, she's been in the dance off for the last three week.

    We don't like ringers.
    Yes but I’ve put a couple of quid on Ashley at 55s...
  • Bruxelles sprouts are the only food worse than pineapple on pizza.

    Can't stand them cooked but do think they are fab raw. Same goes for all the brassicas. Love them raw, hate them cooked.
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 1,325
    edited December 2018
    Not going to be a fun few months for Trump. On top of his people being imprisoned almost every week, next month the Dems will have his tax records ..... and no doubt start leaking the embarrassing bits.

    Probably just turns out to be nothing criminal, rather just that he has less money now than he inherited.
  • JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    When was the sampling done ?
    Thursday and Friday of this week.
    Thanks. That’s a fair comment then although frankly, I’m stunned.
    Why - you underestimate just how popular TM is with voters
    She might be popular in North Wales, although not enough to actually win seats, but I can’t find anyone in Hampshire, Tory or not, who has a good word for her.
  • Sprouts are great. I can’t understand the hostility to them.

    Beans of all kinds, however... Yuk.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 14,826

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    When was the sampling done ?
    Thursday and Friday of this week.
    Thanks. That’s a fair comment then although frankly, I’m stunned.
    Why - you underestimate just how popular TM is with voters
    As I was saying earlier. Most people aren't following the detail and just see a decent woman struggling with some very difficult colleagues.

    If the Tories ditch May their ratings will plummet
  • Just off out for a pre-Christmas get-together with our neighbours. Dare I mention the 'B' word?
  • IanB2 said:

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    When was the sampling done ?
    Thursday and Friday of this week.
    Thanks. That’s a fair comment then although frankly, I’m stunned.
    Why - you underestimate just how popular TM is with voters
    As I was saying earlier. Most people aren't following the detail and just see a decent woman struggling with some very difficult colleagues.

    If the Tories ditch May their ratings will plummet
    Indeed they will
  • Bruxelles sprouts are the only food worse than pineapple on pizza.

    British Sprouts and gammon with pineapple.

    Food of the gods.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 3,688
    ydoethur said:

    justin124 said:

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    Quite incredible. Even if labour do manage to bring the government down, it is far from clear we won’t be back with exactly the same situation we have now.

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    Quite incredible. Even if labour do manage to bring the government down, it is far from clear we won’t be back with exactly the same situation we have now.
    A lot of it is probably down - yet again - to the Opposition being frozen out by the commentariat.
    Or to them being led by Jeremy Corbyn. One or the other.
    More likely both, TBH.
  • Just off out for a pre-Christmas get-together with our neighbours. Dare I mention the 'B' word?

    Bollinger? I personally followed seanT / max advice and gone for NyeTimber for Christmas lunch.
  • JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    When was the sampling done ?
    Thursday and Friday of this week.
    Thanks. That’s a fair comment then although frankly, I’m stunned.
    Why - you underestimate just how popular TM is with voters
    She might be popular in North Wales, although not enough to actually win seats, but I can’t find anyone in Hampshire, Tory or not, who has a good word for her.
    You do talk nonsense.
  • ydoethur said:

    Barnesian said:

    I have a smallish bet on John Kasich to be next President at 130/1. he's still 100/1. But he is only 18/1 to be Republican nominee. If he is nominee, he'd stand a good chance of becoming president taking right and centre.

    Surely Pence is the next President, if Republican, and otherwise it will be a Democrat?
    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.
    I'm thinking that if the pounding is bad enough he steps down in return for a pardon before the next election. If the pounding isn't that bad then his base sticks with him and the family stays in the White House.
  • JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    When was the sampling done ?
    Thursday and Friday of this week.
    Thanks. That’s a fair comment then although frankly, I’m stunned.
    Why - you underestimate just how popular TM is with voters
    She might be popular in North Wales, although not enough to actually win seats, but I can’t find anyone in Hampshire, Tory or not, who has a good word for her.
    You do talk nonsense.
    There was methinking it was the other way round. As you have no insights to offer, best to leave it there.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 14,826

    IanB2 said:

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    When was the sampling done ?
    Thursday and Friday of this week.
    Thanks. That’s a fair comment then although frankly, I’m stunned.
    Why - you underestimate just how popular TM is with voters
    As I was saying earlier. Most people aren't following the detail and just see a decent woman struggling with some very difficult colleagues.

    If the Tories ditch May their ratings will plummet
    Indeed they will
    Especially as her opponents are mostly weird old men.
  • Just off out for a pre-Christmas get-together with our neighbours. Dare I mention the 'B' word?

    I have a rule never ever to raise politics unless someone else chooses to. On the same lines I never put political posts on my facebook. (Actually I did once only which was the day after the Brexit vote). I really do find it tiresome to read political posts on FB and keep all my online political discussion for here.
  • Labour would fall behind the Liberal Democrats in the polls if Jeremy Corbyn helps the Tories to secure Brexit, according to a huge new poll.

    The YouGov survey of 5,000 voters, commissioned by the People’s Vote campaign, shows that support for Labour could fall from 36% to 22% if they helped the Tories to pass a compromise deal with Brussels like the one advocated by Theresa May.

    Under those circumstances, the Lib Dems would soar from 10% to 26% — their highest rating in any poll since they entered coalition government with the Tories in 2010.

    The poll shows that Labour’s supporters want a People’s Vote by a margin of almost three to one — and an even bigger proportion would stay in the European Union if they were given the chance.

    Those who voted Labour last year and remain the year before say they are more likely to switch to the Liberal Democrats (49%) than stay with Labour (41%). The survey suggests no compensating boost among those who voted leave in the referendum. In fact, it would be the Conservatives who would benefit if both main parties backed Brexit. Their support among leave voters would rise from 62% to 69%. Labour support among leave voters would slip from 21% to 19%.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-remainers-to-abandon-corbyn-if-he-passes-brexit-deal-6zfjgnm5w
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 14,826

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    When was the sampling done ?
    Thursday and Friday of this week.
    Thanks. That’s a fair comment then although frankly, I’m stunned.
    Why - you underestimate just how popular TM is with voters
    She might be popular in North Wales, although not enough to actually win seats, but I can’t find anyone in Hampshire, Tory or not, who has a good word for her.
    You do talk nonsense.
    There was methinking it was the other way round. As you have no insights to offer, best to leave it there.
    The correct response was to tell us how hard you have been looking in Hampshire? On a sliding scale from knocking on every door in the county to talking to everyone in your front room?
  • Labour would fall behind the Liberal Democrats in the polls if Jeremy Corbyn helps the Tories to secure Brexit, according to a huge new poll.

    The YouGov survey of 5,000 voters, commissioned by the People’s Vote campaign, shows that support for Labour could fall from 36% to 22% if they helped the Tories to pass a compromise deal with Brussels like the one advocated by Theresa May.

    Under those circumstances, the Lib Dems would soar from 10% to 26% — their highest rating in any poll since they entered coalition government with the Tories in 2010.

    The poll shows that Labour’s supporters want a People’s Vote by a margin of almost three to one — and an even bigger proportion would stay in the European Union if they were given the chance.

    Those who voted Labour last year and remain the year before say they are more likely to switch to the Liberal Democrats (49%) than stay with Labour (41%). The survey suggests no compensating boost among those who voted leave in the referendum. In fact, it would be the Conservatives who would benefit if both main parties backed Brexit. Their support among leave voters would rise from 62% to 69%. Labour support among leave voters would slip from 21% to 19%.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-remainers-to-abandon-corbyn-if-he-passes-brexit-deal-6zfjgnm5w

    This sort of polling is up there with "Would you vote for New Party" on the list of "complete crap hypothetical"
  • Both UK and US legislatures have the ways and means to remove their useless leaders. A pity that neither is likely to do so.
  • Labour would fall behind the Liberal Democrats in the polls if Jeremy Corbyn helps the Tories to secure Brexit, according to a huge new poll.

    The YouGov survey of 5,000 voters, commissioned by the People’s Vote campaign, shows that support for Labour could fall from 36% to 22% if they helped the Tories to pass a compromise deal with Brussels like the one advocated by Theresa May.

    Under those circumstances, the Lib Dems would soar from 10% to 26% — their highest rating in any poll since they entered coalition government with the Tories in 2010.

    The poll shows that Labour’s supporters want a People’s Vote by a margin of almost three to one — and an even bigger proportion would stay in the European Union if they were given the chance.

    Those who voted Labour last year and remain the year before say they are more likely to switch to the Liberal Democrats (49%) than stay with Labour (41%). The survey suggests no compensating boost among those who voted leave in the referendum. In fact, it would be the Conservatives who would benefit if both main parties backed Brexit. Their support among leave voters would rise from 62% to 69%. Labour support among leave voters would slip from 21% to 19%.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-remainers-to-abandon-corbyn-if-he-passes-brexit-deal-6zfjgnm5w

    This sort of polling is up there with "Would you vote for New Party" on the list of "complete crap hypothetical"
    Indeed.

    http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2018/09/03/why-you-should-be-wary-of-hypothetical-polling/
  • BromptonautBromptonaut Posts: 1,113
    Latest from Chris Grey is tiresomely excellent.

    ‘...throughout the last couple of years there has periodically been the crunching sound of this or that Brexit fantasy encountering the lethal force of reality.’

  • A parallel question provides a fragment of relief for the prime minister. Only 18% of voters (and 20% of Conservatives) think a different leader could get a better Brexit deal; 60% of all voters, and 70% of Conservatives, disagree.
  • IanB2 said:

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    When was the sampling done ?
    Thursday and Friday of this week.
    Thanks. That’s a fair comment then although frankly, I’m stunned.
    Why - you underestimate just how popular TM is with voters
    She might be popular in North Wales, although not enough to actually win seats, but I can’t find anyone in Hampshire, Tory or not, who has a good word for her.
    You do talk nonsense.
    There was methinking it was the other way round. As you have no insights to offer, best to leave it there.
    The correct response was to tell us how hard you have been looking in Hampshire? On a sliding scale from knocking on every door in the county to talking to everyone in your front room?
    Given the nonsense you were spouting, or should I say sprouting, given the major theme of the thread thus far, I doubt humouring you with an answer would begin a sensible conversation.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 16,593

    Sprouts are great. I can’t understand the hostility to them.

    Beans of all kinds, however... Yuk.

    Especially has-beens like Boris and Corbyn...
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 3,688

    Labour would fall behind the Liberal Democrats in the polls if Jeremy Corbyn helps the Tories to secure Brexit, according to a huge new poll.

    The YouGov survey of 5,000 voters, commissioned by the People’s Vote campaign, shows that support for Labour could fall from 36% to 22% if they helped the Tories to pass a compromise deal with Brussels like the one advocated by Theresa May.

    Under those circumstances, the Lib Dems would soar from 10% to 26% — their highest rating in any poll since they entered coalition government with the Tories in 2010.

    The poll shows that Labour’s supporters want a People’s Vote by a margin of almost three to one — and an even bigger proportion would stay in the European Union if they were given the chance.

    Those who voted Labour last year and remain the year before say they are more likely to switch to the Liberal Democrats (49%) than stay with Labour (41%). The survey suggests no compensating boost among those who voted leave in the referendum. In fact, it would be the Conservatives who would benefit if both main parties backed Brexit. Their support among leave voters would rise from 62% to 69%. Labour support among leave voters would slip from 21% to 19%.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-remainers-to-abandon-corbyn-if-he-passes-brexit-deal-6zfjgnm5w

    This sort of polling is up there with "Would you vote for New Party" on the list of "complete crap hypothetical"
    Which is true. However, it can only harden sentiment against the Deal in MV. Not that Mrs May is doing anything of any kind to win over opposition votes.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 16,593

    ydoethur said:

    Barnesian said:

    I have a smallish bet on John Kasich to be next President at 130/1. he's still 100/1. But he is only 18/1 to be Republican nominee. If he is nominee, he'd stand a good chance of becoming president taking right and centre.

    Surely Pence is the next President, if Republican, and otherwise it will be a Democrat?
    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.
    I'm thinking that if the pounding is bad enough he steps down in return for a pardon before the next election. If the pounding isn't that bad then his base sticks with him and the family stays in the White House.
    And once again someone fails to appreciate the awesomeness of my punning.

    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.

    Honestly, some people are not the full shilling, or certainly not up to the mark...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 16,593

    Labour would fall behind the Liberal Democrats in the polls if Jeremy Corbyn helps the Tories to secure Brexit, according to a huge new poll.

    The YouGov survey of 5,000 voters, commissioned by the People’s Vote campaign, shows that support for Labour could fall from 36% to 22% if they helped the Tories to pass a compromise deal with Brussels like the one advocated by Theresa May.

    Under those circumstances, the Lib Dems would soar from 10% to 26% — their highest rating in any poll since they entered coalition government with the Tories in 2010.

    The poll shows that Labour’s supporters want a People’s Vote by a margin of almost three to one — and an even bigger proportion would stay in the European Union if they were given the chance.

    Those who voted Labour last year and remain the year before say they are more likely to switch to the Liberal Democrats (49%) than stay with Labour (41%). The survey suggests no compensating boost among those who voted leave in the referendum. In fact, it would be the Conservatives who would benefit if both main parties backed Brexit. Their support among leave voters would rise from 62% to 69%. Labour support among leave voters would slip from 21% to 19%.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-remainers-to-abandon-corbyn-if-he-passes-brexit-deal-6zfjgnm5w

    So Labour abstaining on the withdrawal agreement has absolutely no downside?
  • So basically everyone will switch their votes to the Lib Dems, but only after it's too late?
  • Andrew said:

    Not going to be a fun few months for Trump. On top of his people being imprisoned almost every week, next month the Dems will have his tax records ..... and no doubt start leaking the embarrassing bits.

    Probably just turns out to be nothing criminal, rather just that he has less money now than he inherited.

    My guess would be that Trump has paid roughly zero tax ever, with most or all his buildings having been built after securing huge tax breaks.
  • IanB2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    When was the sampling done ?
    Thursday and Friday of this week.
    Thanks. That’s a fair comment then although frankly, I’m stunned.
    Why - you underestimate just how popular TM is with voters
    As I was saying earlier. Most people aren't following the detail and just see a decent woman struggling with some very difficult colleagues.

    If the Tories ditch May their ratings will plummet
    Indeed they will
    Especially as her opponents are mostly weird old men.
    A matter of a pinion.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 14,826
    edited December 2018

    Latest from Chris Grey is tiresomely excellent.

    ‘...throughout the last couple of years there has periodically been the crunching sound of this or that Brexit fantasy encountering the lethal force of reality.’

    It might be expected that as reality bites in these and other ways, Brexiters would gradually modify or abandon their fantasies. Indeed, to an extent, this is what Theresa May – having initially embraced those fantasies – has done. But, of course, they do not. Instead, we are now seeing a doubling down on ever more absurd positions. This can be seen in the spate of interventions over the last few days from advocates of ‘a better deal’ or of a ‘managed no deal’.

    Indeed, it is a rich irony that the stubborn refusal of Brexiters to engage seriously with the realities of Brexit may just end up with its being reversed.
  • Just off out for a pre-Christmas get-together with our neighbours. Dare I mention the 'B' word?

    Bollinger? I personally followed seanT / max advice and gone for NyeTimber for Christmas lunch.
    Moi aussi.
  • Just off out for a pre-Christmas get-together with our neighbours. Dare I mention the 'B' word?

    I have a rule never ever to raise politics unless someone else chooses to. On the same lines I never put political posts on my facebook. (Actually I did once only which was the day after the Brexit vote). I really do find it tiresome to read political posts on FB and keep all my online political discussion for here.
    The exact same here. I muted those few Facebook friends who posted incessantly on politics during the election.

    Last night I was out for a dinner with a client and contacts. The subject came up. Despite this client being based in one of the less glamorous shires, there was a strikingly confident assumption, without having any particular advance information, by three of those present that everyone else would definitely have voted Remain. And they were right (at least in what people professed to have voted).
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 11,866

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    Sympathy vote for Theresa, probably.....
    I think that's right, but also Brexit continues to be Blue vs Blue, with Labour barely mentioned, so whatever your view, you can find some Tories who agree with you.
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 1,355

    Just off out for a pre-Christmas get-together with our neighbours. Dare I mention the 'B' word?

    I have a rule never ever to raise politics unless someone else chooses to. On the same lines I never put political posts on my facebook. (Actually I did once only which was the day after the Brexit vote). I really do find it tiresome to read political posts on FB and keep all my online political discussion for here.
    A wise choice.

    I find it extremely useful to have an outlet here, where I can talk politics with people of all different persuasions and be reasonably assured of an entertaining, informed, respectful debate.

    I more or less block/delete/mute anyone who talks about politics on social media. Sometimes you feel as if the world has gone mad. It as if your niche, weird, nerdy sport has suddenly become more popular than the football overnight. Once upon a time, politics was derided by your friends as a weird obsessive hobby, but now they all have a favourite team (which they are extremely vocal about), and they seem to believe that the rules of the game are who shouts loudest wins.

    I'm only in my mid thirties and I must say it feels strange for so many people to be interested in politics. Older posters - have there been other instances where politics feels as visceral and as mainstream as now? What was it like?
  • Andrew said:

    Not going to be a fun few months for Trump. On top of his people being imprisoned almost every week, next month the Dems will have his tax records ..... and no doubt start leaking the embarrassing bits.

    Probably just turns out to be nothing criminal, rather just that he has less money now than he inherited.

    My guess would be that Trump has paid roughly zero tax ever, with most or all his buildings having been built after securing huge tax breaks.
    I don’t know. There was a leak that showed he had paid a decent chunk for one particular year. I would guess more likely a combination of daddy money, tax efficient schemes and not being anywhere near as wealthy as he claims.
  • Andrew said:

    Not going to be a fun few months for Trump. On top of his people being imprisoned almost every week, next month the Dems will have his tax records ..... and no doubt start leaking the embarrassing bits.

    Probably just turns out to be nothing criminal, rather just that he has less money now than he inherited.

    How do you become a millionaire?

    Start with two million and set up a restaurant.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 7,434
    I just got this in my email:

    "...We’ll soon publish changes to our Terms of Service that may affect the Google services you use. Starting January 22, 2019, services offered under these terms will be offered by Google Ireland Limited instead of Google LLC. We’re making similar changes to the Drive, Play, YouTube, and YouTube Paid Service Terms of Service. You can find our new terms here.

    At the same time, we’re also updating Google’s Privacy Policy to specify that Google Ireland Limited will be the data controller responsible for your information and for complying with applicable privacy laws. These updates will take effect if you’re based in the European Union, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, or Switzerland (unless otherwise stated in a service-specific privacy notice).
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 16,593

    Andrew said:

    Not going to be a fun few months for Trump. On top of his people being imprisoned almost every week, next month the Dems will have his tax records ..... and no doubt start leaking the embarrassing bits.

    Probably just turns out to be nothing criminal, rather just that he has less money now than he inherited.

    How do you become a millionaire?

    Start with two million and set up a restaurant.
    How do you make a small fortune in Vegas?

    Start with a very large one.
  • Donny43Donny43 Posts: 634
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Barnesian said:

    I have a smallish bet on John Kasich to be next President at 130/1. he's still 100/1. But he is only 18/1 to be Republican nominee. If he is nominee, he'd stand a good chance of becoming president taking right and centre.

    Surely Pence is the next President, if Republican, and otherwise it will be a Democrat?
    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.
    I'm thinking that if the pounding is bad enough he steps down in return for a pardon before the next election. If the pounding isn't that bad then his base sticks with him and the family stays in the White House.
    And once again someone fails to appreciate the awesomeness of my punning.

    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.

    Honestly, some people are not the full shilling, or certainly not up to the mark...
    To be franc, you missed an opportunity to include a few more.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 16,593
    edited December 2018
    Donny43 said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Barnesian said:

    I have a smallish bet on John Kasich to be next President at 130/1. he's still 100/1. But he is only 18/1 to be Republican nominee. If he is nominee, he'd stand a good chance of becoming president taking right and centre.

    Surely Pence is the next President, if Republican, and otherwise it will be a Democrat?
    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.
    I'm thinking that if the pounding is bad enough he steps down in return for a pardon before the next election. If the pounding isn't that bad then his base sticks with him and the family stays in the White House.
    And once again someone fails to appreciate the awesomeness of my punning.

    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.

    Honestly, some people are not the full shilling, or certainly not up to the mark...
    To be franc, you missed an opportunity to include a few more.
    I didn't want to make a zloty puns. I thought it might cause t-rouble. One does sterling service.
  • ydoethur said:

    Donny43 said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Barnesian said:

    I have a smallish bet on John Kasich to be next President at 130/1. he's still 100/1. But he is only 18/1 to be Republican nominee. If he is nominee, he'd stand a good chance of becoming president taking right and centre.

    Surely Pence is the next President, if Republican, and otherwise it will be a Democrat?
    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.
    I'm thinking that if the pounding is bad enough he steps down in return for a pardon before the next election. If the pounding isn't that bad then his base sticks with him and the family stays in the White House.
    And once again someone fails to appreciate the awesomeness of my punning.

    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.

    Honestly, some people are not the full shilling, or certainly not up to the mark...
    To be franc, you missed an opportunity to include a few more.
    I didn't want to make a zloty puns. I thought it might cause t-rouble. One does sterling service.
    Get real.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 16,593

    ydoethur said:

    Donny43 said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Barnesian said:

    I have a smallish bet on John Kasich to be next President at 130/1. he's still 100/1. But he is only 18/1 to be Republican nominee. If he is nominee, he'd stand a good chance of becoming president taking right and centre.

    Surely Pence is the next President, if Republican, and otherwise it will be a Democrat?
    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.
    I'm thinking that if the pounding is bad enough he steps down in return for a pardon before the next election. If the pounding isn't that bad then his base sticks with him and the family stays in the White House.
    And once again someone fails to appreciate the awesomeness of my punning.

    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.

    Honestly, some people are not the full shilling, or certainly not up to the mark...
    To be franc, you missed an opportunity to include a few more.
    I didn't want to make a zloty puns. I thought it might cause t-rouble. One does sterling service.
    Get real.
    Are you apesoed to these puns? If so I'll rand them off with that one.
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 6,322

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    Sympathy vote for Theresa, probably.....
    I think that's right, but also Brexit continues to be Blue vs Blue, with Labour barely mentioned, so whatever your view, you can find some Tories who agree with you.

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    Sympathy vote for Theresa, probably.....
    I think that's right, but also Brexit continues to be Blue vs Blue, with Labour barely mentioned, so whatever your view, you can find some Tories who agree with you.
    Very much agree with that. In an election campaign media coverage would be far more balanced.
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256

    FPT: my cholesterol a couple of weeks back was 1.7 - the lowest my doctor had ever seen. On anyone.

    Must be all that gammon....

    Make sure you have British sprouts to go with that gammon:

    Meet them half-way.

    Call them Waterloo Sprouts.....
    Just call them sprouts. The taste is awful whatever you call them.
    You clearly never done them properly.
    Blanche or boil or steam them. Allow to dry slightly then fry in a pan with streaky bacon.
  • BromptonautBromptonaut Posts: 1,113
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Donny43 said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Barnesian said:

    I have a smallish bet on John Kasich to be next President at 130/1. he's still 100/1. But he is only 18/1 to be Republican nominee. If he is nominee, he'd stand a good chance of becoming president taking right and centre.

    Surely Pence is the next President, if Republican, and otherwise it will be a Democrat?
    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.
    I'm thinking that if the pounding is bad enough he steps down in return for a pardon before the next election. If the pounding isn't that bad then his base sticks with him and the family stays in the White House.
    And once again someone fails to appreciate the awesomeness of my punning.

    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.

    Honestly, some people are not the full shilling, or certainly not up to the mark...
    To be franc, you missed an opportunity to include a few more.
    I didn't want to make a zloty puns. I thought it might cause t-rouble. One does sterling service.
    Get real.
    Are you apesoed to these puns? If so I'll rand them off with that one.
    You really have a yen for punning.
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    ydoethur said:

    Andrew said:

    Not going to be a fun few months for Trump. On top of his people being imprisoned almost every week, next month the Dems will have his tax records ..... and no doubt start leaking the embarrassing bits.

    Probably just turns out to be nothing criminal, rather just that he has less money now than he inherited.

    How do you become a millionaire?

    Start with two million and set up a restaurant.
    How do you make a small fortune in Vegas?

    Start with a very large one.
    Q. How do you become an airline millionaire?

    A. Start as an airline billionaire

    - Stelios Haji-ioannou
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 14,826
    justin124 said:

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    Sympathy vote for Theresa, probably.....
    I think that's right, but also Brexit continues to be Blue vs Blue, with Labour barely mentioned, so whatever your view, you can find some Tories who agree with you.

    JohnO said:

    OPINIUM poll has Lab 39, (0), Cons 38 (+2), LDs 8 (+1), UKIP 6 (-2)

    This week’s ‘events’ don’t seem to have hurt the Blues.

    Sympathy vote for Theresa, probably.....
    I think that's right, but also Brexit continues to be Blue vs Blue, with Labour barely mentioned, so whatever your view, you can find some Tories who agree with you.
    Very much agree with that. In an election campaign media coverage would be far more balanced.
    It's not so much about balance as that all the strong points of view are coming from the Tories, with the LibDems playing the ultra-Remain view. Labour really has nothing worthwhile to say, since anyone can see that its own "better deal" is just fantasy and cover for its avoiding taking a position.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 16,593

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Donny43 said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Barnesian said:

    I have a smallish bet on John Kasich to be next President at 130/1. he's still 100/1. But he is only 18/1 to be Republican nominee. If he is nominee, he'd stand a good chance of becoming president taking right and centre.

    Surely Pence is the next President, if Republican, and otherwise it will be a Democrat?
    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.
    I'm thinking that if the pounding is bad enough he steps down in return for a pardon before the next election. If the pounding isn't that bad then his base sticks with him and the family stays in the White House.
    And once again someone fails to appreciate the awesomeness of my punning.

    If Trump takes a Pounding, Pence has no chance.

    Honestly, some people are not the full shilling, or certainly not up to the mark...
    To be franc, you missed an opportunity to include a few more.
    I didn't want to make a zloty puns. I thought it might cause t-rouble. One does sterling service.
    Get real.
    Are you apesoed to these puns? If so I'll rand them off with that one.
    You really have a yen for punning.
    It's yuan pun after another win me, but I don't make a drachma of it.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 7,434

    viewcode said:

    houndtang said:

    In the realms of impossible hypotheticals, but what really would be the UKs chances in a military attack on continental Europe??

    We could nuke it. But I don't think we could invade and occupy. We don't have enough people, planes, tanks, shells, boats, anything and everything.

    As of 2018, the British Army comprises just over 81,500 trained regular (full-time) personnel and just over 27,000 trained reserve (part-time) personnel.

    On D-Day, the Allies landed around 156,000 troops in Normandy.
    Everything is on Youtube these days, including Binkov's Battlegrounds analysing hypothetical wars based on military capability. Ignore the silly puppet. The verdict is that we could not defend Gibraltar from Spain, for instance.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPdk3JuQGxOCMlZLLt4drhw

    I Googled.

  • Labour would fall behind the Liberal Democrats in the polls if Jeremy Corbyn helps the Tories to secure Brexit, according to a huge new poll.

    The YouGov survey of 5,000 voters, commissioned by the People’s Vote campaign, shows that support for Labour could fall from 36% to 22% if they helped the Tories to pass a compromise deal with Brussels like the one advocated by Theresa May.

    Under those circumstances, the Lib Dems would soar from 10% to 26% — their highest rating in any poll since they entered coalition government with the Tories in 2010.

    The poll shows that Labour’s supporters want a People’s Vote by a margin of almost three to one — and an even bigger proportion would stay in the European Union if they were given the chance.

    Those who voted Labour last year and remain the year before say they are more likely to switch to the Liberal Democrats (49%) than stay with Labour (41%). The survey suggests no compensating boost among those who voted leave in the referendum. In fact, it would be the Conservatives who would benefit if both main parties backed Brexit. Their support among leave voters would rise from 62% to 69%. Labour support among leave voters would slip from 21% to 19%.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-remainers-to-abandon-corbyn-if-he-passes-brexit-deal-6zfjgnm5w

    I understand why the Peoples' Vote campaign is spending the Dunkerton £1m on comissioning polling like that. It generates narratives and free media. It's a soundish invest from a campaign who's chuef enemy is inevitability. But as a guide to future public opinion in the event of it's heavily loaded senarios coming to pass it's garbage.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 16,593

    ydoethur said:

    Andrew said:

    Not going to be a fun few months for Trump. On top of his people being imprisoned almost every week, next month the Dems will have his tax records ..... and no doubt start leaking the embarrassing bits.

    Probably just turns out to be nothing criminal, rather just that he has less money now than he inherited.

    How do you become a millionaire?

    Start with two million and set up a restaurant.
    How do you make a small fortune in Vegas?

    Start with a very large one.
    Q. How do you become an airline millionaire?

    A. Start as an airline billionaire

    - Stelios Haji-ioannou
    Pope John XXIII once said, 'There are three ways a man can ruin himself - gambling, women and farming. My father chose the most boring of the three.'
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    viewcode said:

    I just got this in my email:

    "...We’ll soon publish changes to our Terms of Service that may affect the Google services you use. Starting January 22, 2019, services offered under these terms will be offered by Google Ireland Limited instead of Google LLC. We’re making similar changes to the Drive, Play, YouTube, and YouTube Paid Service Terms of Service. You can find our new terms here.

    At the same time, we’re also updating Google’s Privacy Policy to specify that Google Ireland Limited will be the data controller responsible for your information and for complying with applicable privacy laws. These updates will take effect if you’re based in the European Union, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, or Switzerland (unless otherwise stated in a service-specific privacy notice).

    I do wonder if No-Deal will hit email services by non-EU companies. If business email goes *boink* there will be riots. Businesses go crazy if email goes down even for an hour or two. A day or two or a week could kill many businesses. Seriously - it is that mission critical.
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