Lots of countryside around Gatwick to do the recovery and recharging without being spotted. This has got to be a deliberate protest; whoever it was ran it throughout the night and today is the busiest travelling day for the Xmas getaway
Lots of countryside around Gatwick to do the recovery and recharging without being spotted. This has got to be a deliberate protest; whoever it was ran it throughout the night and today is the busiest travelling day for the Xmas getaway
It will be environmentalists stopping emissions.
This is clearly going to happen again now its been so succesful isn’t it?
Depending on the weather I think shooting a drone down is actually quite hard. Birdshot is only good out to about 35-40m so you probably want something like a .22LR.
Lots of countryside around Gatwick to do the recovery and recharging without being spotted. This has got to be a deliberate protest; whoever it was ran it throughout the night and today is the busiest travelling day for the Xmas getaway
It will be environmentalists stopping emissions.
This is clearly going to happen again now its been so succesful isn’t it?
One can't deny it's been extremely effective, seem to have been no contingency plans for it whatsoever.
Lots of countryside around Gatwick to do the recovery and recharging without being spotted. This has got to be a deliberate protest; whoever it was ran it throughout the night and today is the busiest travelling day for the Xmas getaway
It will be environmentalists stopping emissions.
This is clearly going to happen again now its been so succesful isn’t it?
I hope it becomes a nationwide craze like Pokemon Go.
Lots of countryside around Gatwick to do the recovery and recharging without being spotted. This has got to be a deliberate protest; whoever it was ran it throughout the night and today is the busiest travelling day for the Xmas getaway
It will be environmentalists stopping emissions.
Or it could be a trial run for something more sinister. Airplanes grounded. The police diverted looking for the drone operator. Meanwhile, hundreds, thousands of people are trapped inside an airport and anyone can just turn up and ..... well, use your imagination.
Every day she doesn't resign is another £150 odd in the bank..
Quite so - at the very least she won't want to resign today. Labour must be furious (see leak source!), though I note that Nick Brown gave evidence for her as a character witness.
But in a message sent to other Labour MPs on various WhatsApp groups this morning and leaked to The Times, Ms Onasanya hinted she would not quit, saying “this was not his end but rather the beginning of the next chapter” of her “story”, as it was with Jesus.
Lots of countryside around Gatwick to do the recovery and recharging without being spotted. This has got to be a deliberate protest; whoever it was ran it throughout the night and today is the busiest travelling day for the Xmas getaway
It will be environmentalists stopping emissions.
Or it could be a trial run for something more sinister. Airplanes grounded. The police diverted looking for the drone operator. Meanwhile, hundreds, thousands of people are trapped inside an airport and anyone can just turn up and ..... well, use your imagination.
Err...why would you need a trial run? I hope you are not the only one with such a thought.
Lots of countryside around Gatwick to do the recovery and recharging without being spotted. This has got to be a deliberate protest; whoever it was ran it throughout the night and today is the busiest travelling day for the Xmas getaway
It will be environmentalists stopping emissions.
This is clearly going to happen again now its been so succesful isn’t it?
I would be very surprised if the police aren't keeping a very close eye on Extinction Rebellion.
Every day she doesn't resign is another £150 odd in the bank..
Quite so - at the very least she won't want to resign today. Labour must be furious (see leak source!), though I note that Nick Brown gave evidence for her as a character witness.
But in a message sent to other Labour MPs on various WhatsApp groups this morning and leaked to The Times, Ms Onasanya hinted she would not quit, saying “this was not his end but rather the beginning of the next chapter” of her “story”, as it was with Jesus.
When's the sentencing?
There's been no date set yet. Perhaps we could have an Onasanya advent calendar when the judge obliges us.
Every day she doesn't resign is another £150 odd in the bank..
Quite so - at the very least she won't want to resign today. Labour must be furious (see leak source!), though I note that Nick Brown gave evidence for her as a character witness.
But in a message sent to other Labour MPs on various WhatsApp groups this morning and leaked to The Times, Ms Onasanya hinted she would not quit, saying “this was not his end but rather the beginning of the next chapter” of her “story”, as it was with Jesus.
When's the sentencing?
There's been no date set yet. Perhaps we could have an Onasanya advent calendar when the judge obliges us.
If the judge has a sense of humour they'll give her an 11 month stretch.
Every day she doesn't resign is another £150 odd in the bank..
Quite so - at the very least she won't want to resign today. Labour must be furious (see leak source!), though I note that Nick Brown gave evidence for her as a character witness.
But in a message sent to other Labour MPs on various WhatsApp groups this morning and leaked to The Times, Ms Onasanya hinted she would not quit, saying “this was not his end but rather the beginning of the next chapter” of her “story”, as it was with Jesus.
I suppose there is the answer to my question if she would own up now the trial is done
Kinda amazing that 1 drone can shut down Gatwick for what, 12 hours?
Yes, they are not that sturdy - the police could just send their own drones in the air to knock it out the sky. Or use a trained bird of prey. This stuff really isn't tough.
I can assure you it's not that simple.
Drone technology has come on a long way. They are bigger, strong, can fly further and higher, and faster. They are now capable of disrupting flights before it is possible to intervene.
I don't know the specifics at Gatwick but all UK airports are now spending millions of pounds to try and keep up.
Lots of countryside around Gatwick to do the recovery and recharging without being spotted. This has got to be a deliberate protest; whoever it was ran it throughout the night and today is the busiest travelling day for the Xmas getaway
It will be environmentalists stopping emissions.
Or it could be a trial run for something more sinister. Airplanes grounded. The police diverted looking for the drone operator. Meanwhile, hundreds, thousands of people are trapped inside an airport and anyone can just turn up and ..... well, use your imagination.
Err...why would you need a trial run? I hope you are not the only one with such a thought.
So do I. But I am assuming those with sinister intentions do some form of reconnaissance and planning.
Anyway it doesn’t bear thinking about.
In more joyful news I have just been given as a Xmas surprise tickets to the Olympia Horse Show this evening so I shall be quaffing champagne and watching horse dancing and jumping and there is some stuff going on with dogs too. Sounds wonderful! I am a sucker for horse shows and agricultural shows and stuff like that.
Every day she doesn't resign is another £150 odd in the bank..
Quite so - at the very least she won't want to resign today. Labour must be furious (see leak source!), though I note that Nick Brown gave evidence for her as a character witness.
But in a message sent to other Labour MPs on various WhatsApp groups this morning and leaked to The Times, Ms Onasanya hinted she would not quit, saying “this was not his end but rather the beginning of the next chapter” of her “story”, as it was with Jesus.
I suppose there is the answer to my question if she would own up now the trial is done
She clearly hasn’t got the message. It’s Jeremy who’s the Messiah not her.
These uncertainties are weighing on UK financial markets. UK bank funding costs and non-financial high-yield corporate bond spreads have risen sharply and by more than in other advanced economies. UK-focused equity prices have fallen materially. Sterling has depreciated further, and its volatility has risen substantially. Market-based indicators of inflation expectations in the United Kingdom have risen, including at longer horizons.
The further intensification of Brexit uncertainties, coupled with the slowing global economy, has also weighed on the near-term outlook for UK growth. Business investment has fallen for each of the past three quarters and is likely to remain weak in the near term. The housing market has remained subdued. Indicators of household consumption have generally been more resilient, although retail spending may be slowing.
Every day she doesn't resign is another £150 odd in the bank..
Quite so - at the very least she won't want to resign today. Labour must be furious (see leak source!), though I note that Nick Brown gave evidence for her as a character witness.
But in a message sent to other Labour MPs on various WhatsApp groups this morning and leaked to The Times, Ms Onasanya hinted she would not quit, saying “this was not his end but rather the beginning of the next chapter” of her “story”, as it was with Jesus.
When's the sentencing?
There's been no date set yet. Perhaps we could have an Onasanya advent calendar when the judge obliges us.
If the judge has a sense of humour they'll give her an 11 month stretch.
An interesting Skydata poll in relation to the Welsh Assembly_ National Assembly Regional Ballot
Lab 39 Con 23 PC 22 AA 7 UKIP 4 LD 2 Others 3
7-14 Dec, 1,014 people online
AA is the Abolish the Assembly group. On those figures they will gain representation next time. Were I still a resident , I would certainly support them.
It was his idea in the first place. Dugin's Osnovy geopolitiki is his fucking koran.
I saw one of Putin's MPs on Russian TV the other week saying that Russia was the only country holding out against a unipolar world controlled by America. I'm not sure their worldview is ready for China becoming a superpower.
Once May’s deal is defeated, she can’t possibly stay and no one in the Tory Party would want her to. She would face a proper VNOC from Labour then, which she’d probably win but she would then be the news rather than policy which would be a massive distraction.
With Labour currently on the back foot after Corbyn’s mad moment yesterday, and idiotic attempt at a VNOC which made the Keystone Cops look competent, she’d after to make way. She won’t be missed.
As for Brexit, it might not happen at all. The chances of no deal or no Brexit must be about neck and neck.
You do not talk for the conservative party as a whole. Indeed are you even a voting member
Furthermore, if the deal fails the DUP will not support a vnoc
As far as the future outcome we cannot look past the meaningful vote and the order the amendments are taken and whether any will have majority support
TM will stand down in due course but right now she is an asset to the party and has a great amount of support in the country, compared to any of the alternatives
You don’t speak for the Tory Party either. Like me, you don’t speak for anyone but yourself but that is what the comments are for isn’t it - expressing individual opinions. As such, your high and mighty tone is both misplaced and risible frankly.
The meaningful vote is meaningless. May’s deal won’t pass with the backstop and the backstop isn’t going to change. She pulled the vote for a reason.
Once her deal is defeated, thoughts will turn to the inevitable leadership contest and the next general election. Whatever is left of her shattered authority and and power will ebb away and she’ll be gone. She’s been a total disaster and a worse Tory PM than either Eden or Heath which is really plumbing the depths.
BigG speaks sense on this unlike your fanaticism.
May has got a Deal which is more than most would have and got 42% in 2017
May got a deal because she meekly conceded every point the EU demanded. 42% is pretty meaningless when you lose a 20% lead in the polls and your majority in a snap election you call and are saved from losing office by a Scottishrevival you have nothing to do with. Still, facts are not your strong suit are they.
I am not convinced the PM would have a deal that right now still stands some chance of being the resolution if that person had instead been Leadsom, or Boris, or Davis....
We have to deal with reality, not counterfactual speculation.
Once May’s deal is defeated, she can’t possibly stay and no one in the Tory Party would want her to. She would .
With Labour currently on the back foot after Corbyn’s mad moment yesterday, and idiotic attempt at a VNOC which made the Keystone Cops look competent, she’d after to make way. She won’t be missed.
As for Brexit, it might not happen at all. The chances of no deal or no Brexit must be about neck and neck.
You do not talk for the conservative party as a whole. Indeed are you even a voting member
Furthermore, if the deal fails the DUP will not support a vnoc
As far as the future outcome we cannot look past the meaningful vote and the order the amendments are taken and whether any will have majority support
TM will stand down in due course but right now she is an asset to the party and has a great amount of support in the country, compared to any of the alternatives
You don’t speak for the Tory Party either. Like me, you don’t speak for anyone but yourself but that is what the comments are for isn’t it - expressing individual opinions. As such, your high and mighty tone is both misplaced and risible frankly.
The meaningful vote is meaningless. May’s deal won’t pass with the backstop and the backstop isn’t going to change. She pulled the vote for a reason.
Once her deal is defeated, thoughts will turn to the inevitable leadership contest and the next general election. Whatever is left of her shattered authority and and power will ebb away and she’ll be gone. She’s been a total disaster and a worse Tory PM than either Eden or Heath which is really plumbing the depths.
BigG speaks sense on this
May has got a Deal which is more than most would have and got 42% in 2017
May got a deal because she meekly conceded every point the EU demanded. 42% is pretty meaningless when you lose a 20% lead in the polls and your majority in a snap election you call and are saved from losing office by a Scottishrevival you have nothing to do with. Still, facts are not your strong suit are they.
I am not convinced the PM would have a deal that right now still stands some chance of being the resolution if that person had instead been Leadsom, or Boris, or Davis....
We have to deal with reality, not counterfactual speculation.
The reality is that she has done better than anyone else would have, imo. Which is not to say she has handled it brilliantly; a more colleagiate approach from the outset might have increased her chances of getting the deal through. But the challenge was near impossible to start with.
It was his idea in the first place. Dugin's Osnovy geopolitiki is his fucking koran.
I saw one of Putin's MPs on Russian TV the other week saying that Russia was the only country holding out against a unipolar world controlled by America. I'm not sure their worldview is ready for China becoming a superpower.
With all those lovely natural resources in Russian far east you would have thought they would realise where the greater strategic threat comes from.
Every day she doesn't resign is another £150 odd in the bank..
Quite so - at the very least she won't want to resign today. Labour must be furious (see leak source!), though I note that Nick Brown gave evidence for her as a character witness.
But in a message sent to other Labour MPs on various WhatsApp groups this morning and leaked to The Times, Ms Onasanya hinted she would not quit, saying “this was not his end but rather the beginning of the next chapter” of her “story”, as it was with Jesus.
I suppose there is the answer to my question if she would own up now the trial is done
She clearly hasn’t got the message. It’s Jeremy who’s the Messiah not her.
Every day she doesn't resign is another £150 odd in the bank..
Quite so - at the very least she won't want to resign today. Labour must be furious (see leak source!), though I note that Nick Brown gave evidence for her as a character witness.
But in a message sent to other Labour MPs on various WhatsApp groups this morning and leaked to The Times, Ms Onasanya hinted she would not quit, saying “this was not his end but rather the beginning of the next chapter” of her “story”, as it was with Jesus.
I suppose there is the answer to my question if she would own up now the trial is done
I wouldn't want to be her counsel trying mitigate after that. Is she raving mad?
Once May’s deal is defeated, she can’t possibly stay and no one in the Tory Party would want her to. She would face a proper VNOC from Labour then, which she’d probably win but she would then be the news rather than policy which would be a massive distraction.
With Labour currently on the back foot after Corbyn’s mad moment yesterday, and idiotic attempt at a VNOC which made the Keystone Cops look competent, she’d after to make way. She won’t be missed.
As for Brexit, it might not happen at all. The chances of no deal or no Brexit must be about neck and neck.
You do not talk for the conservative party as a whole. Indeed are you even a voting member
Furthermore, if the deal fails the DUP will not support a vnoc
As far as the future outcome we cannot look past the meaningful vote and the order the amendments are taken and whether any will have majority support
TM will stand down in due course but right now she is an asset to the party and has a great amount of support in the country, compared to any of the alternatives
You don’t speak for the Tory Party either. Like me, you don’t speak for anyone but yourself but that is what the comments are for isn’t it - expressing individual opinions. As such, your high and mighty tone is both misplaced and risible frankly.
The meaningful vote is meaningless. May’s deal won’t pass with the backstop and the backstop isn’t going to change. She pulled the vote for a reason.
Once her deal is defeated, thoughts will turn to the inevitable leadership contest and the next general election. Whatever is left of her shattered authority and and power will ebb away and she’ll be gone. She’s been a total disaster and a worse Tory PM than either Eden or Heath which is really plumbing the depths.
May has got a Deal which is more than most would have and got 42% in 2017
May got a deal because she meekly conceded every point the EU demanded. 42% is pretty meaningless when you lose a 20% lead in the polls and your majority in a snap election you call and are saved from losing office by a Scottishrevival you have nothing to do with. Still, facts are not your strong suit are they.
I am not convinced the PM would have a deal that right now still stands some chance of being the resolution if that person had instead been Leadsom, or Boris, or Davis....
We have to deal with reality, not counterfactual speculation.
The reality is that she has done better than anyone else would have, imo.
Every day she doesn't resign is another £150 odd in the bank..
Quite so - at the very least she won't want to resign today. Labour must be furious (see leak source!), though I note that Nick Brown gave evidence for her as a character witness.
But in a message sent to other Labour MPs on various WhatsApp groups this morning and leaked to The Times, Ms Onasanya hinted she would not quit, saying “this was not his end but rather the beginning of the next chapter” of her “story”, as it was with Jesus.
I suppose there is the answer to my question if she would own up now the trial is done
I wouldn't want to be her counsel trying mitigate after that. Is she raving mad?
What is there to say, when your client has revealed herself to be an unrepentant serial liar?
Every day she doesn't resign is another £150 odd in the bank..
Quite so - at the very least she won't want to resign today. Labour must be furious (see leak source!), though I note that Nick Brown gave evidence for her as a character witness.
But in a message sent to other Labour MPs on various WhatsApp groups this morning and leaked to The Times, Ms Onasanya hinted she would not quit, saying “this was not his end but rather the beginning of the next chapter” of her “story”, as it was with Jesus.
I suppose there is the answer to my question if she would own up now the trial is done
I wouldn't want to be her counsel trying mitigate after that. Is she raving mad?
Does your second sentence not give some indication on direction of travel for the first?
Lots of countryside around Gatwick to do the recovery and recharging without being spotted. This has got to be a deliberate protest; whoever it was ran it throughout the night and today is the busiest travelling day for the Xmas getaway
It will be environmentalists stopping emissions.
Or a couple of bored Sussex stoners getting off on leading the news for 18 hours while they do nothing more than lurk by a lock-up with a remote controller.
Lots of countryside around Gatwick to do the recovery and recharging without being spotted. This has got to be a deliberate protest; whoever it was ran it throughout the night and today is the busiest travelling day for the Xmas getaway
It will be environmentalists stopping emissions.
Or a couple of bored Sussex stoners getting off on leading the news for 18 hours while they do nothing more than lurk by a lock-up with a remote controller.
TBC, this a resumption of the programmed business from a few weeks ago. Five days of business were programmed, only three were ordered. So there's two days of debate remaining, including disposing of whatever amendments Mr Speaker selects.
Since this a continuation of the previous business, the Grieve Amendment remains in effect. Which is to say, when MPs reject the Meaningful Vote is when Parliament gets to take control of the process.
An interesting comparison. Though the Don is more of an overweight, lumbering kind of dinosaur.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/20/oh-no-the-day-trump-learned-to-tweet-1070789 "The moment I found out Trump could tweet himself was comparable to the moment in ‘Jurassic Park’ when Dr. Grant realized that velociraptors could open doors,” recalled McConney, who was the Trump Organization’s director of social media from 2011 to 2017. “I was like, ‘Oh no.”"...
Would the fact that the first jury did not convict her be likely to have an impact on sentencing?
Depends how close it was.
Why?
See my post at 1.12pm
I mean, why would there be a difference in sentence (except for time served, although I doubt she was on remand) between this conviction and if the first jury had convicted?
Would the fact that the first jury did not convict her be likely to have an impact on sentencing?
Depends how close it was.
Why?
See my post at 1.12pm
I mean, why would there be a difference in sentence (except for time served, although I doubt she was on remand) between this conviction and if the first jury had convicted?
Because she didn’t plead guilty at the earliest opportunity which resulted in two costly trials.
Does anyone understand Andrea Leadsom's plan for a managed No Deal?
Apparently it still involves negotiating a deal with a transition period, but presumably no backstop? Is she suggesting we should give up anything in return for the EU giving up the backstop? If not, why should the EU agree to her "No Deal Deal"?
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It will be environmentalists stopping emissions.
Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin.
Anyway it doesn’t bear thinking about.
In more joyful news I have just been given as a Xmas surprise tickets to the Olympia Horse Show this evening so I shall be quaffing champagne and watching horse dancing and jumping and there is some stuff going on with dogs too. Sounds wonderful! I am a sucker for horse shows and agricultural shows and stuff like that.
These uncertainties are weighing on UK financial markets. UK bank funding costs and non-financial high-yield corporate bond spreads have risen sharply and by more than in other advanced economies. UK-focused equity prices have fallen materially. Sterling has depreciated further, and its volatility has risen substantially. Market-based indicators of inflation expectations in the United Kingdom have risen, including at longer horizons.
The further intensification of Brexit uncertainties, coupled with the slowing global economy, has also weighed on the near-term outlook for UK growth. Business investment has fallen for each of the past three quarters and is likely to remain weak in the near term. The housing market has remained subdued. Indicators of household consumption have generally been more resilient, although retail spending may be slowing.
National Assembly Regional Ballot
Lab 39
Con 23
PC 22
AA 7
UKIP 4
LD 2
Others 3
7-14 Dec, 1,014 people online
AA is the Abolish the Assembly group. On those figures they will gain representation next time. Were I still a resident , I would certainly support them.
https://order-order.com/2018/12/20/britain-still-best-country-world-business/
Tm Jezbollah
https://twitter.com/JonathanEley/status/1075735309005045760
Edit/ and that if you are confident about Debenhams then their bonds are an early new year bargain
She’s fully justified in exhausting the appellate procedures.
*To an appropriate standard.
Since this a continuation of the previous business, the Grieve Amendment remains in effect. Which is to say, when MPs reject the Meaningful Vote is when Parliament gets to take control of the process.
Therefore if you buy them at <100, that is one part of your return.
Lower prices = higher return = implies higher risk.
They will also pay interest, but the assumption of the tweet is that in the interest is the same.
NB he was guilty.
https://twitter.com/mistaoowl/status/1074317613705113601?s=21
She got lucky that one juror fell ill and the threshold to convict effectively increased.
Though the Don is more of an overweight, lumbering kind of dinosaur.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/20/oh-no-the-day-trump-learned-to-tweet-1070789
"The moment I found out Trump could tweet himself was comparable to the moment in ‘Jurassic Park’ when Dr. Grant realized that velociraptors could open doors,” recalled McConney, who was the Trump Organization’s director of social media from 2011 to 2017. “I was like, ‘Oh no.”"...
https://twitter.com/labourwhips/status/1075740230223847424
She ain’t getting a discount for that.
1) Olly Robbins is a wonderful beneficiary of white male privilege. Every time he's fucked up, May has rewarded him with failing upwards.
2) Theresa May is incapable of learning from past experience.
3) The Cabinet is still holding out for a Unicorn hero to save them from their grand no-deal bluff.
4) The Cabinet do not believe the DUP or the Tory remainers are bluffing about a VONC.
https://www.defensenews.com/digital-show-dailies/navy-league/2018/04/10/this-gun-shoots-drones-out-of-the-sky/
Apparently it still involves negotiating a deal with a transition period, but presumably no backstop? Is she suggesting we should give up anything in return for the EU giving up the backstop? If not, why should the EU agree to her "No Deal Deal"?
In the two trials, 21 out of 23 jurors believed her to be guilty.