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The speculation is that she’ll set out an exit timetable.

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SquareRoot

First

MarqueeMark

Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio......

Philip_Thompson

A phrase from Cromwell springs to mind . . .

AlastairMeeks

If she doesn't offer one or she offers one that seems too undemanding for the masses, she may get telt one.

Peter_the_Punter

First, on indicative vote principles.

Anorak

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

SquareRoot

MarqueeMark said:

Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio......

Which is better ?? ERG loses/ May goes...

IanB2

Eighth like no deal

TheScreamingEagles

Where's the modern day Leo Amery.

Pulpstar

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

Should official Gov't communication be used to push the Tory line ? It might not be what May wants, but it would fulfill the question as set out on the ballot paper.

CarlottaVance

https://twitter.com/rowenamason/status/1110951003568963585

oxfordsimon

As has been said many times before, I am not sure that announcing a resignation date/condition would actually changed any minds.

Sean_F

FWIW, Conor Burns and Gordon Henderson now say they support the WA.

CarlottaVance

https://twitter.com/cgwOMT/status/1110927041074028544

kjohnw

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

They are the main reasons people voted leave and were the the main discussions during the referendum campaign, to say otherwise is to ignore reality

Anorak

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/rowenamason/status/1110951003568963585

I think the '22 will just lock her in the broom cupboard if she tries some crap about "later this year".

williamglenn

kjohnw said:

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

They are the main reasons people voted leave and were the the main discussions during the referendum campaign, to say otherwise is to ignore reality

Nevertheless that's a political judgment, not something that should come from a government account.

Philip_Thompson

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

CarlottaVance said:

IanB2 said:

Philip_Thompson said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1110934787752108032
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1110935180779368450

No they did not. Even if every Tory Brexiteer backed MV1 and MV2 it would still have lost.

No. If the Tory party had untied behind championing the deal from the outset, it would have got through. The ERG wouldn't have given remainers cover to oppose it, and Labour leavers would have taken their chance to make their mark on history.

Yep. If Brexit fails it will be because of the Brexiteers - what did they expect, voting against it?

They voted against a crap deal not Brexit.

But the ballot paper did not say anything about 'crap deal' and whether it was ok or not. So if you voted Leave, you were voting for any form of Leave - from BRINO to NO Deal and all stops in between.

Of course. So one of them should happen and then we should hold Parliament to account to how happy we are with what they've come up with.

Well, those that voted Leave can hardly complain about what sort of leave they get, even those who has since come to believe it wasn't a very smart choice.

Of course they can complain! That's a right every Englishman and woman has. People who don't vote have no reason to complain but those who do should.

They should follow through with their complaints if need be by voting accordingly at the next election. Call it taking back control.

Lol! And what about the poor sods who voted Remain? We lost, so we don't count. Just ignore is now, yes?

You get to complain, agitate and vote at the next election too.

If at the next election a party with a Rejoin manifesto wins, you get what you want back.

Anorak

kjohnw said:

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

They are the main reasons people voted leave and were the the main discussions during the referendum campaign, to say otherwise is to ignore reality

That's not the function of a government department.

tlg86

Pulpstar said:

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

Should official Gov't communication be used to push the Tory line ? It might not be what May wants, but it would fulfill the question as set out on the ballot paper.

I’m not comfortable with that either, but then it is difficult for the CS to push back on this sort of thing.

IanB2

She'll just promise to go when Brexit is done.

kjohnw

williamglenn said:

kjohnw said:

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

They are the main reasons people voted leave and were the the main discussions during the referendum campaign, to say otherwise is to ignore reality

Nevertheless that's a political judgment, not something that should come from a government account.

Unlike the leaflet sent to every household by the government telling people to vote remain

SquareRoot

Philip_Thompson said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

CarlottaVance said:

IanB2 said:

Philip_Thompson said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1110934787752108032
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1110935180779368450

No they did not. Even if every Tory Brexiteer backed MV1 and MV2 it would still have lost.

No. If the Tory party had untied behind championing the deal from the outset, it would have got through. The ERG wouldn't have given remainers cover to oppose it, and Labour leavers would have taken their chance to make their mark on history.

Yep. If Brexit fails it will be because of the Brexiteers - what did they expect, voting against it?

They voted against a crap deal not Brexit.

But the ballot paper did not say anything about 'crap deal' and whether it was ok or not. So if you voted Leave, you were voting for any form of Leave - from BRINO to NO Deal and all stops in between.

Of course. So one of them should happen and then we should hold Parliament to account to how happy we are with what they've come up with.

Well, those that voted Leave can hardly complain about what sort of leave they get, even those who has since come to believe it wasn't a very smart choice.

Of course they can complain! That's a right every Englishman and woman has. People who don't vote have no reason to complain but those who do should.

They should follow through with their complaints if need be by voting accordingly at the next election. Call it taking back control.

Lol! And what about the poor sods who voted Remain? We lost, so we don't count. Just ignore is now, yes?

You get to complain, agitate and vote at the next election too.

If at the next election a party with a Rejoin manifesto wins, you get what you want back.

NO because we would have to join the euro and that is a red line if ever there was one.

oxfordsimon

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cgwOMT/status/1110927041074028544

Just hold a vote to remove Bercow from the chair for one day to allow the vote to happen - simples!

anothernick

IanB2 said:

She'll just promise to go when Brexit is done.

In about 2035 then?

kjohnw

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cgwOMT/status/1110927041074028544

If parliament has a majority for TM deal they will be able to override Bercow

AlastairMeeks

Sean_F said:

FWIW, Conor Burns and Gordon Henderson now say they support the WA.

Conor Burns goes on my "more reconcilable than previously indicated" list.

Streeter

tlg86 said:

Pulpstar said:

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

Should official Gov't communication be used to push the Tory line ? It might not be what May wants, but it would fulfill the question as set out on the ballot paper.

I’m not comfortable with that either, but then it is difficult for the CS to push back on this sort of thing.

Andrew Adonis has a point. When all this is over some senior civil servants will have questions to answer.

CarlottaVance

https://twitter.com/robertshrimsley/status/1110951497838313472

Pulpstar

Streeter said:

tlg86 said:

Pulpstar said:

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

Should official Gov't communication be used to push the Tory line ? It might not be what May wants, but it would fulfill the question as set out on the ballot paper.

I’m not comfortable with that either, but then it is difficult for the CS to push back on this sort of thing.

Andrew Adonis has a point. When all this is over some senior civil servants will have questions to answer.

You must be joking ?

This is precisely what isn't happening here, it's Gov't interference into what should be a neutral process. This absolubtely won't be driven by a Sir Humphrey.

IanB2

No guesses as to where all the Tory MPs seem to have disappeared.

Pulpstar

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/robertshrimsley/status/1110951497838313472

Evict them, along with the DUP.

Foxy

IanB2 said:

No guesses as to where all the Tory MPs seem to have disappeared.

https://twitter.com/shaunwkearney/status/1110953550056689665?s=19

Carrying on the debate seems a trifle silly!

oxfordsimon

Streeter said:

tlg86 said:

Pulpstar said:

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

Should official Gov't communication be used to push the Tory line ? It might not be what May wants, but it would fulfill the question as set out on the ballot paper.

I’m not comfortable with that either, but then it is difficult for the CS to push back on this sort of thing.

Andrew Adonis has a point. When all this is over some senior civil servants will have questions to answer.

Adonis never has a point. His statements over recent months have been seriously loony at at times. I am surprised anyone pays him any attention these days

Philip_Thompson

kjohnw said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cgwOMT/status/1110927041074028544

If parliament has a majority for TM deal they will be able to override Bercow

I'm confused because didn't Bercow say the other day a motion to set aside his decision was possible if that was the will of the House? Now he seems to be saying such a motion won't be considered.

AlastairMeeks

https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/status/1110952155496759296

Do not forsake me oh my darlin'...

CarlottaVance

https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1110953143108620288

tlg86

Streeter said:

tlg86 said:

Pulpstar said:

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

Should official Gov't communication be used to push the Tory line ? It might not be what May wants, but it would fulfill the question as set out on the ballot paper.

I’m not comfortable with that either, but then it is difficult for the CS to push back on this sort of thing.

Andrew Adonis has a point. When all this is over some senior civil servants will have questions to answer.

Certainly those who signed off on the info leaflet and the Treasury’s prophecy of doom.

Pulpstar

Foxy said:

IanB2 said:

No guesses as to where all the Tory MPs seem to have disappeared.

https://twitter.com/shaunwkearney/status/1110953550056689665?s=19

Carrying on the debate seems a trifle silly!

Everyone knows how they're going to vote anyway.

Norm

Philip_Thompson said:

kjohnw said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cgwOMT/status/1110927041074028544

If parliament has a majority for TM deal they will be able to override Bercow

I'm confused because didn't Bercow say the other day a motion to set aside his decision was possible if that was the will of the House? Now he seems to be saying such a motion won't be considered.

The Speaker is another suffering from Brexit derangement syndrome.

oxfordsimon

Foxy said:

IanB2 said:

No guesses as to where all the Tory MPs seem to have disappeared.

https://twitter.com/shaunwkearney/status/1110953550056689665?s=19

Carrying on the debate seems a trifle silly!

It isn't a debate. It is people standing up and saying the same things they have been saying for months.

They should have just gone straight to voting - this 'debate' is a waste of expensive hot air

Philip_Thompson

Foxy said:

IanB2 said:

No guesses as to where all the Tory MPs seem to have disappeared.

https://twitter.com/shaunwkearney/status/1110953550056689665?s=19

Carrying on the debate seems a trifle silly!

The debate is a formality, these debates have been raging for months/years.

CarlottaVance

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1110954749573124097

CarlottaVance

https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/1110954841583554561

Pulpstar

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1110954749573124097

Oh God..

Philip_Thompson

May's going to resign when the DFS sale ends.

dixiedean

PM to stand down once Brexit is delivered. Reuters.

brokenwheel

Changed has nothing.

viewcode

Foxy said:

IanB2 said:

No guesses as to where all the Tory MPs seem to have disappeared.

https://twitter.com/shaunwkearney/status/1110953550056689665?s=19

Carrying on the debate seems a trifle silly!

Just another day in the Pugin Westminster Care Home for Special Needs Adults then...

dixiedean

dixiedean said:

PM to stand down once Brexit is delivered. Reuters.

Which could be 2050 at this rate...

Pulpstar

Philip_Thompson said:

May's going to resign when the DFS sale ends.

Extra savings end in 5 days...

tottenhamWC

dixiedean said:

PM to stand down once Brexit is delivered. Reuters.

Does this change anything really?

Nigel_Foremain

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

Indeed. Sadly Mrs May has got away with this type of lying revisionism since the referendum. It is quite outrageous, and is a disgrace to the Conservative Party. Brexit means whatever additional things we want it to mean

tlg86

Pulpstar said:

Streeter said:

tlg86 said:

Pulpstar said:

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

Should official Gov't communication be used to push the Tory line ? It might not be what May wants, but it would fulfill the question as set out on the ballot paper.

I’m not comfortable with that either, but then it is difficult for the CS to push back on this sort of thing.

Andrew Adonis has a point. When all this is over some senior civil servants will have questions to answer.

You must be joking ?

This is precisely what isn't happening here, it's Gov't interference into what should be a neutral process. This absolubtely won't be driven by a Sir Humphrey.

The CS needs to push back. It would have been fine to say the govt opposes Common Market 2.0 for the following reasons. Bringing the referendum into it is wrong.

CarlottaVance

https://twitter.com/GlennBBC/status/1110955273743712257

IanB2

IanB2 said:

She'll just promise to go when Brexit is done.

And the rumour coming from the 22 meeting is that she is doing just that !!

Peter_the_Punter

Philip_Thompson said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

CarlottaVance said:

IanB2 said:

Philip_Thompson said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1110934787752108032
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1110935180779368450

No they did not. Even if every Tory Brexiteer backed MV1 and MV2 it would still have lost.

No. If the Tory party had untied behind championing the deal from the outset, it would have got through. The ERG wouldn't have given remainers cover to oppose it, and Labour leavers would have taken their chance to make their mark on history.

Yep. If Brexit fails it will be because of the Brexiteers - what did they expect, voting against it?

They voted against a crap deal not Brexit.

But the ballot paper did not say anything about 'crap deal' and whether it was ok or not. So if you voted Leave, you were voting for any form of Leave - from BRINO to NO Deal and all stops in between.

Of course. So one of them should happen and then we should hold Parliament to account to how happy we are with what they've come up with.

Well, those that voted Leave can hardly complain about what sort of leave they get, even those who has since come to believe it wasn't a very smart choice.

Of course they can complain! That's a right every Englishman and woman has. People who don't vote have no reason to complain but those who do should.

They should follow through with their complaints if need be by voting accordingly at the next election. Call it taking back control.

Lol! And what about the poor sods who voted Remain? We lost, so we don't count. Just ignore is now, yes?

You get to complain, agitate and vote at the next election too.

If at the next election a party with a Rejoin manifesto wins, you get what you want back.

So when JC wins the next GE and as part of his Venezuela programme he evicts you and your family to make way for a needy bunch of refugees, you just complain, agitate and vote at the next election, and hope you get what you want back when a more sensible Government is returned.

I see.

AlastairMeeks

tottenhamWC said:

dixiedean said:

PM to stand down once Brexit is delivered. Reuters.

Does this change anything really?

Indeed. Nothing has changed.

AndyJS

dixiedean said:

PM to stand down once Brexit is delivered. Reuters.

Doesn't exactly help in terms of betting on the date it'll happen.

AramintaMoonbeamQC

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1110954749573124097

'I fight on, I fight to win'

Nigel_Foremain

kjohnw said:

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

They are the main reasons people voted leave and were the the main discussions during the referendum campaign, to say otherwise is to ignore reality

Total rubbish. The referendum was a binary question. If you want to tag things on it requires additional referenda. Otherwise it is nothing more than a lie.

Philip_Thompson

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

CarlottaVance said:

IanB2 said:

Philip_Thompson said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1110934787752108032
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1110935180779368450

No they did not. Even if every Tory Brexiteer backed MV1 and MV2 it would still have lost.

No. If the Tory party had untied behind championing the deal from the outset, it would have got through. The ERG wouldn't have given remainers cover to oppose it, and Labour leavers would have taken their chance to make their mark on history.

Yep. If Brexit fails it will be because of the Brexiteers - what did they expect, voting against it?

They voted against a crap deal not Brexit.

But the ballot paper did not say anything about 'crap deal' and whether it was ok or not. So if you voted Leave, you were voting for any form of Leave - from BRINO to NO Deal and all stops in between.

Of course. So one of them should happen and then we should hold Parliament to account to how happy we are with what they've come up with.

Well, those that voted Leave can hardly complain about what sort of leave they get, even those who has since come to believe it wasn't a very smart choice.

Of course they can complain! That's a right every Englishman and woman has. People who don't vote have no reason to complain but those who do should.

They should follow through with their complaints if need be by voting accordingly at the next election. Call it taking back control.

Lol! And what about the poor sods who voted Remain? We lost, so we don't count. Just ignore is now, yes?

You get to complain, agitate and vote at the next election too.

If at the next election a party with a Rejoin manifesto wins, you get what you want back.

So when JC wins the next GE and as part of his Venezuela programme he evicts you and your family to make way for a needy bunch of refugees, you just complain, agitate and vote at the next election, and hope you get what you want back when a more sensible Government is returned.

I see.

Yes its called democracy.

CarlottaVance

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1110955979183673344

Nigel_Foremain

Philip_Thompson said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Philip_Thompson said:

CarlottaVance said:

IanB2 said:

Philip_Thompson said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1110934787752108032
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1110935180779368450

No they did not. Even if every Tory Brexiteer backed MV1 and MV2 it would still have lost.

No. If the Tory party had untied behind championing the deal from the outset, it would have got through. The ERG wouldn't have given remainers cover to oppose it, and Labour leavers would have taken their chance to make their mark on history.

Yep. If Brexit fails it will be because of the Brexiteers - what did they expect, voting against it?

They voted against a crap deal not Brexit.

But the ballot paper did not say anything about 'crap deal' and whether it was ok or not. So if you voted Leave, you were voting for any form of Leave - from BRINO to NO Deal and all stops in between.

Of course. So one of them should happen and then we should hold Parliament to account to how happy we are with what they've come up with.

Well, those that voted Leave can hardly complain about what sort of leave they get, even those who has since come to believe it wasn't a very smart choice.

Of course they can complain! That's a right every Englishman and woman has. People who don't vote have no reason to complain but those who do should.

They should follow through with their complaints if need be by voting accordingly at the next election. Call it taking back control.

Lol! And what about the poor sods who voted Remain? We lost, so we don't count. Just ignore is now, yes?

You get to complain, agitate and vote at the next election too.

If at the next election a party with a Rejoin manifesto wins, you get what you want back.

So when JC wins the next GE and as part of his Venezuela programme he evicts you and your family to make way for a needy bunch of refugees, you just complain, agitate and vote at the next election, and hope you get what you want back when a more sensible Government is returned.

I see.

Yes its called democracy.

If you call what we have democracy, you are more naïve than I thought!

Philip_Thompson

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1110955979183673344

Cute that she's announcing it like this is her decision and she had a choice.

IanB2

Maybe MV3 does make sense on Friday, just to drive a third stake through its heart.

Then MPs can get on with the job on Monday.

kjohnw

Nigel_Foremain said:

kjohnw said:

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

They are the main reasons people voted leave and were the the main discussions during the referendum campaign, to say otherwise is to ignore reality

Total rubbish. The referendum was a binary question. If you want to tag things on it requires additional referenda. Otherwise it is nothing more than a lie.

You’ve obviously forgotten the debates the literature the discussions of the campaign . All issues which framed the debate . To say immigration and sending money to the EU was not an issue for voting leave is delusional

Scrapheap_as_was

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1110955979183673344

If a DUP rep is brought in to the next phase negotiations (with invite to other parties to have a rep too) then might that swing the DUP to back the deal?

AnotherEngineer

Nigel_Foremain said:

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

Indeed. Sadly Mrs May has got away with this type of lying revisionism since the referendum. It is quite outrageous, and is a disgrace to the Conservative Party. Brexit means whatever additional things we want it to mean

The graphic is true, but should not have been sent from a government department.

We did not vote to "technically" Leave the EU. Even Dave said so before the vote.

tottenhamWC said:

dixiedean said:

PM to stand down once Brexit is delivered. Reuters.

Does this change anything really?

Does it mean her deal, or does it mean the negotiated settlement following the deal?

IanB2

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1110955979183673344

So a long extension is nailed on.

Philip_Thompson

Nigel_Foremain said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Yes its called democracy.

If you call what we have democracy, you are more naïve than I thought!

Democracy is you vote for what you want and campaign for what you want. I didn't agree with a lot the last Labour government did (and I don't agree with all this government does) but I will vote based on what I want and what I think is appropriate.

There is no alternative, except Civil War.

oxfordsimon

Philip_Thompson said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1110955979183673344

Cute that she's announcing it like this is her decision and she had a choice.

She does. There can be no challenge under the rules until December. So unless they moved to change the rules, she has the right to set the timing for her departure.

And if MV3 passes, she has earned the right. She persisted.

Sean_F

The vote was to Leave. Anything from Common Market 2.0 to No Deal respects the result.

MarqueeMark

oxfordsimon said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cgwOMT/status/1110927041074028544

Just hold a vote to remove Bercow from the chair for one day to allow the vote to happen - simples!

Amendment: remove "for one day", insert "until heat death of the universe".

Scrapheap_as_was

History might well treat her far better if this is indeed the outcome...

https://twitter.com/adamboultonSKY/status/1110956586137206785

Nigel_Foremain

AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1110954749573124097

'I fight on, I fight to win'

Theresa May, one of the least emotionally intelligent Prime Ministers in my living memory, claims she would like to bring the country together after having been a completely partisan and unlistening fool for the last three tears. God help us!

viewcode

Philip_Thompson said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1110955979183673344

Cute that she's announcing it like this is her decision and she had a choice.

It is her choice. There are ways of forcing her resignation. But they have not been invoked. If resigning gets her deal thru, then good for her. Although it is somewhat late...

Nigel_Foremain

Nigel_Foremain said:

AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1110954749573124097

'I fight on, I fight to win'

Theresa May, one of the least emotionally intelligent Prime Ministers in my living memory, claims she would like to bring the country together after having been a completely partisan and unlistening fool for the last three tears. God help us!

Years. An appropriate typo!

williamglenn

IanB2 said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1110955979183673344

So a long extension is nailed on.

"It is a matter of great personal regret for me that this House has not been able to deliver on the will of the people and has forced me to request an extension for 7 years."

Philip_Thompson

Nigel_Foremain said:

AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1110954749573124097

'I fight on, I fight to win'

Theresa May, one of the least emotionally intelligent Prime Ministers in my living memory, claims she would like to bring the country together after having been a completely partisan and unlistening fool for the last three tears. God help us!

She will bring them together. She will bring the party and country together in being glad to see the back of her.

IanB2

£/$ looks happy

oxfordsimon

MarqueeMark said:

oxfordsimon said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cgwOMT/status/1110927041074028544

Just hold a vote to remove Bercow from the chair for one day to allow the vote to happen - simples!

Amendment: remove "for one day", insert "until heat death of the universe".

I am happy to accept the amendment

Sandpit

Just catching up. Another day, another chance for John Bercow to make an utter arse of himself. It’s now blantantly clear he’s trying for force a single vote on No Deal v Revoke A50.

geoffw

Strong points against CU from Greg Hands.

CarlottaVance

Greg Hands speaking strongly against Customs Union.

Peter_the_Punter

Sean_F said:

The vote was to Leave. Anything from Common Market 2.0 to No Deal respects the result.

It is astonishing, Sean, even in this enlightened forum, how many times that has had to be repeated.

dixiedean

viewcode said:

Philip_Thompson said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1110955979183673344

Cute that she's announcing it like this is her decision and she had a choice.

It is her choice. There are ways of forcing her resignation. But they have not been invoked. If resigning gets her deal thru, then good for her. Although it is somewhat late...

And somewhat early to assume this gets her deal through .

IanB2

MarqueeMark said:

oxfordsimon said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cgwOMT/status/1110927041074028544

Just hold a vote to remove Bercow from the chair for one day to allow the vote to happen - simples!

Amendment: remove "for one day", insert "until heat death of the universe".

He's done a grand job today dismissing all the wrecking nonsense and rising to the occasion.

DougSeal

kjohnw said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

kjohnw said:

Anorak said:

Out of order. Utterly partial. Where on the referendum paper did it mention any of those things?
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264

They are the main reasons people voted leave and were the the main discussions during the referendum campaign, to say otherwise is to ignore reality

Total rubbish. The referendum was a binary question. If you want to tag things on it requires additional referenda. Otherwise it is nothing more than a lie.

You’ve obviously forgotten the debates the literature the discussions of the campaign . All issues which framed the debate . To say immigration and sending money to the EU was not an issue for voting leave is delusional

The fact that we are STILL having this debate indicates quite how little anything has moved on in nearly 3 years. The question and answer on the ballot paper was not "What sort of future relationship do you want with the European Union? Yes or No." but it may as well have been given the clarity on future direction it has produced.

Sandpit

Looking at empty Commons chamber, what chance of the SNP proposing a point of order to end the debate and move immediately to the votes?

Morris_Dancer

Mr. B2, probably not if you get paid in dollars...

Fenster

Scrapheap_as_was said:

History might well treat her far better if this is indeed the outcome...

https://twitter.com/adamboultonSKY/status/1110956586137206785

I was just thinking the same.

She'll be the Andy Dufresne PM... the woman who dug through a concrete wall and waded through a mile of shit to reach the other side.

Barnesian

https://twitter.com/dansabbagh

williamglenn

https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1110957633614295040

GIN1138

Foxy said:

IanB2 said:

No guesses as to where all the Tory MPs seem to have disappeared.

https://twitter.com/shaunwkearney/status/1110953550056689665?s=19

Who are the the Tories that haven't attended the 1922?

malcolmg

Pulpstar said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/robertshrimsley/status/1110951497838313472

Evict them, along with the DUP.

Ha Ha the English nationalists do not like democracy

Sandpit

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. B2, probably not if you get paid in dollars...

*waves*

malcolmg

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1110953143108620288

Just the moronic Tories being reminded of what happened to them at public school

Nigel_Foremain

Philip_Thompson said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Yes its called democracy.

If you call what we have democracy, you are more naïve than I thought!

Democracy is you vote for what you want and campaign for what you want. I didn't agree with a lot the last Labour government did (and I don't agree with all this government does) but I will vote based on what I want and what I think is appropriate.

There is no alternative, except Civil War.

No, you refer to freedom of speech and action under the rule of law. We do (thank the Lord) have this. Democracy is a misused and abused word, and is hardly appropriate, particularly now, for our system of government in my opinion. We need "ever closer democracy" with extensive reform to our lack of separation of powers, our executive, and our bicameral legislature. It always irks me that Brexiters talk of the undemocratic EU. We are in no position to preach.

Anorak

Fenster said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

History might well treat her far better if this is indeed the outcome...

https://twitter.com/adamboultonSKY/status/1110956586137206785

I was just thinking the same.

She'll be the Andy Dufresne PM... the woman who dug through a concrete wall and waded through a mile of shit to reach the other side.

Why can't we have the like button back?