It may be unfair, but I suspect you'd be shocked how disliked London is in the rest of the country. And it extends across all classes of voters.
I’m well aware how much provincials hate the people who fund their lifestyle, as are most Londoners. That’s why a mayor who speaks for them in the face of an onslaught from angry freeloaders is doing ok.
I work in London but live in Woking. Does that make me a hardworker or a free-loader?
Gove could still be prosecuted fot taking drugs back in the 1990s. No statutory limitation would apply to the offence.
It is the CPS who decide whether or not to prosecute and there is no chance of them doing so in this case based on nothing more than his own claims. Of course I don't believe he is lying but there is no way the CPS would - or should - choose to waste money and resources on a claim with no other supporting evidence.
It may be unfair, but I suspect you'd be shocked how disliked London is in the rest of the country. And it extends across all classes of voters.
I’m well aware how much provincials hate the people who fund their lifestyle, as are most Londoners. That’s why a mayor who speaks for them in the face of an onslaught from angry freeloaders is doing ok.
I work in London but live in Woking. Does that make me a hardworker or a free-loader?
1 Livingstone, term 1 2 Johnson, term 1 3 Johnson, term 2 4 Khan, term 1 5 Livingstone, term 2
I don't remember what Livingstone did in his first term tbh. Boris has been far and away the best mayor. Khan has been poor and full of excuses on knife crime. He seems more interested in banning bikini adverts on the tube and getting the police to chase people who say mean things on twitter than solving knife crime and other crimes that actually have a real effect on people.
Khan is utterly useless. I agree he has been the worst mayor. Although Livingstone was a rancid socialist, he had interesting ideas for London. Khan has nothing. Zip.
Yeah Khan rode Boris' coattails for a bit with the night tube and hopper fare which were both planned by the Boris administration, since then he's literally done nothing for London other than posture and bullshit.
He's supposed to stand up for London's industries on the global stage but seems to revel in stories about jobs leaving to Europe. He may not have voted for brexit and neither did the city as a whole, but it's still happening and spouting "London is open" a few times a month does nothing. I think that's where Boris was very good, he knew exactly how to represent London overseas and ensure that we were always in the conversation by bringing industry bodies with him. Khan seems to ignore the a lot of London's industries at the moment because they aren't giving him the negative brexit news he wants.
As we discussed on here a couple of days ago, brexit is going to have a lot of unlikely winners in Europe and it doesn't seem, at the moment, that London will lose very much at all. Khan can't seem to get his head around that.
Sadiq Khan does an excellent job of channelling and voicing his voters’ views. At a time when large parts of the country seem actively to hate London, that’s not to be underrated.
Can’t wait to hear his views, if and when the “Birmingham School Problem” manages to migrate south.
Who wins the game of identity politics top trumps? The LGB Labour conference yesterday condemned the party’s handling of the issue.
It may be unfair, but I suspect you'd be shocked how disliked London is in the rest of the country. And it extends across all classes of voters.
I’m well aware how much provincials hate the people who fund their lifestyle, as are most Londoners. That’s why a mayor who speaks for them in the face of an onslaught from angry freeloaders is doing ok.
I work in London but live in Woking. Does that make me a hardworker or a free-loader?
I was wondering much the same thing
You’re a hypocrite, frotting yourself into a frenzy about anti-Semitism and then cheerfully lining up behind race-baiters whenever it suits your own agenda. Hope that helps.
The London mayoralty job is of course totally different from being Prime Minister.
Mostly it is about PR. Johnson did however make noticeable improvements in crime, cycling and building design - relying largely on an army of “deputy mayors” to do any of the real work.
Johnson’s key weaknesses are laziness, dishonesty, narcissism, and gimmickry. None of these were fatal to his Mayoralty.
Isn’t the reliance point what Cabinet government at its heart is meant to achieve? The micromanagement of, say, Brown (and some argue May) is the direct opposite of this. Clearly depends on the ability of Ministers (Cameron was fortunate for example).
Gove could still be prosecuted fot taking drugs back in the 1990s. No statutory limitation would apply to the offence.
If you feel so strongly about it, make a complaint to the police.
It is a story the Opposition parties can reasonably run with. How could the authorities justify NOT taking action. Showing preference to Gove and his ilk clearly brings the law into disrepute.
I don't think it would pass the evidentiary test, so am not sure how you're even getting to a prosecution.
I am geninely confused as to how you think a public confession does not pass the evidentiary test, and also why you think it would not constitute sufficient reason to being a private prosecution.
Gove could still be prosecuted fot taking drugs back in the 1990s. No statutory limitation would apply to the offence.
If you feel so strongly about it, make a complaint to the police.
It is a story the Opposition parties can reasonably run with. How could the authorities justify NOT taking action. Showing preference to Gove and his ilk clearly brings the law into disrepute.
I don't think they are showing preference to them. In fact, I think the opposite would be true if they went through with your plan and hauled them in front of the courts. Why them, and not the millions of others that have used illicit drugs?
Keith Richards first up? Or Liam Gallagher? Or, or, or.
1 Livingstone, term 1 2 Johnson, term 1 3 Johnson, term 2 4 Khan, term 1 5 Livingstone, term 2
I don't remember what Livingstone did in his first term tbh. Boris has been far and away the best mayor. Khan has been poor and full of excuses on knife crime. He seems more interested in banning bikini adverts on the tube and getting the police to chase people who say mean things on twitter than solving knife crime and other crimes that actually have a real effect on people.
Khan is utterly useless. I agree he has been the worst mayor. Although Livingstone was a rancid socialist, he had interesting ideas for London. Khan has nothing. Zip.
Yeah Khan rode Boris' coattails for a bit with the night tube and hopper fare which were both planned by the Boris administration, since then he's literally done nothing for London other than posture and bullshit.
He's supposed to stand up for London's industries on the global stage but seems to revel in stories about jobs leaving to Europe. He may not have voted for brexit and neither did the city as a whole, but it's still happening and spouting "London is open" a few times a month does nothing. I think that's where Boris was very good, he knew exactly how to represent London overseas and ensure that we were always in the conversation by bringing industry bodies with him. Khan seems to ignore the a lot of London's industries at the moment because they aren't giving him the negative brexit news he wants.
As we discussed on here a couple of days ago, brexit is going to have a lot of unlikely winners in Europe and it doesn't seem, at the moment, that London will lose very much at all. Khan can't seem to get his head around that.
Sadiq Khan does an excellent job of channelling and voicing his voters’ views. At a time when large parts of the country seem actively to hate London, that’s not to be underrated.
Can’t wait to hear his views, if and when the “Birmingham School Problem” manages to migrate south.
Who wins the game of identity politics top trumps? The LGB Labour conference yesterday condemned the party’s handling of the issue.
He's already spoken about it.
Sadiq Khan backs LGBT education in response to Parkfield protests
The Barry Gardiner line makes me think of that Churchill comeback to being accused of being disgustingly drunk by a female MP: "My dear, you are ugly, and what's more, you are disgustingly ugly. But tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be disgustingly ugly."
Can't see that myself.
What is boorish and crass and misogynistic about what Barry said?
Gove could still be prosecuted fot taking drugs back in the 1990s. No statutory limitation would apply to the offence.
If you feel so strongly about it, make a complaint to the police.
It is a story the Opposition parties can reasonably run with. How could the authorities justify NOT taking action. Showing preference to Gove and his ilk clearly brings the law into disrepute.
I don't think it would pass the evidentiary test, so am not sure how you're even getting to a prosecution.
I am geninely confused as to how you think a public confession does not pass the evidentiary test, and also why you think it would not constitute sufficient reason to being a private prosecution.
If someone said “I used to drink and drive all the time 20 years ago, but now I always take a taxi home”, would that constitute sufficient evidence to prosecute them now for past offences of drinking and driving?
The London mayoralty job is of course totally different from being Prime Minister.
Mostly it is about PR. Johnson did however make noticeable improvements in crime, cycling and building design - relying largely on an army of “deputy mayors” to do any of the real work.
Johnson’s key weaknesses are laziness, dishonesty, narcissism, and gimmickry. None of these were fatal to his Mayoralty.
Isn’t the reliance point what Cabinet government at its heart is meant to achieve? The micromanagement of, say, Brown (and some argue May) is the direct opposite of this. Clearly depends on the ability of Ministers (Cameron was fortunate for example).
Where is this alternative universe where Cameron's ministers did not screw up almost everything they laid their hands on?
It may be unfair, but I suspect you'd be shocked how disliked London is in the rest of the country. And it extends across all classes of voters.
I’m well aware how much provincials hate the people who fund their lifestyle, as are most Londoners. That’s why a mayor who speaks for them in the face of an onslaught from angry freeloaders is doing ok.
I work in London but live in Woking. Does that make me a hardworker or a free-loader?
It may be unfair, but I suspect you'd be shocked how disliked London is in the rest of the country. And it extends across all classes of voters.
I’m well aware how much provincials hate the people who fund their lifestyle, as are most Londoners. That’s why a mayor who speaks for them in the face of an onslaught from angry freeloaders is doing ok.
I work in London but live in Woking. Does that make me a hardworker or a free-loader?
The Barry Gardiner line makes me think of that Churchill comeback to being accused of being disgustingly drunk by a female MP: "My dear, you are ugly, and what's more, you are disgustingly ugly. But tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be disgustingly ugly."
Can't see that myself.
What is boorish and crass and misogynistic about what Barry said?
Okay, I'll explain. Someone can do something like take cocaine and then go back to normal (though I suspect drinking regularly was a big part of who Churchill was). Lisa Forbes is an antisemite. She might not like Facebook posts now she knows people are watching, but that does not alter the fact that she is a racist.
I don't remember what Livingstone did in his first term tbh. Boris has been far and away the best mayor. Khan has been poor and full of excuses on knife crime. He seems more interested in banning bikini adverts on the tube and getting the police to chase people who say mean things on twitter than solving knife crime and other crimes that actually have a real effect on people.
Khan is utterly useless. I agree he has been the worst mayor. Although Livingstone was a rancid socialist, he had interesting ideas for London. Khan has nothing. Zip.
Yeah Khan rode Boris' coattails for a bit with the night tube and hopper fare which were both planned by the Boris administration, since then he's literally done nothing for London other than posture and bullshit.
He's supposed to stand up for London's industries on the global stage but seems to revel in stories about jobs leaving to Europe. He may not have voted for brexit and neither did the city as a whole, but it's still happening and spouting "London is open" a few times a month does nothing. I think that's where Boris was very good, he knew exactly how to represent London overseas and ensure that we were always in the conversation by bringing industry bodies with him. Khan seems to ignore the a lot of London's industries at the moment because they aren't giving him the negative brexit news he wants.
As we discussed on here a couple of days ago, brexit is going to have a lot of unlikely winners in Europe and it doesn't seem, at the moment, that London will lose very much at all. Khan can't seem to get his head around that.
Sadiq Khan does an excellent job of channelling and voicing his voters’ views. At a time when large parts of the country seem actively to hate London, that’s not to be underrated.
Can’t wait to hear his views, if and when the “Birmingham School Problem” manages to migrate south.
Who wins the game of identity politics top trumps? The LGB Labour conference yesterday condemned the party’s handling of the issue.
He's already spoken about it.
Sadiq Khan backs LGBT education in response to Parkfield protests
Gove could still be prosecuted fot taking drugs back in the 1990s. No statutory limitation would apply to the offence.
If you feel so strongly about it, make a complaint to the police.
It is a story the Opposition parties can reasonably run with. How could the authorities justify NOT taking action. Showing preference to Gove and his ilk clearly brings the law into disrepute.
I don't think it would pass the evidentiary test, so am not sure how you're even getting to a prosecution.
I am geninely confused as to how you think a public confession does not pass the evidentiary test, and also why you think it would not constitute sufficient reason to being a private prosecution.
If someone said “I used to drink and drive all the time 20 years ago, but now I always take a taxi home”, would that constitute sufficient evidence to prosecute them now for past offences of drinking and driving?
IANAL, but I would say "yes".
This site often baffles me with its opinions. I accept that you may find your argument convincing, but please accept that not only do I disagree with it, I am genuinely baffled by your argument. Bad people do bad things, boast that they have done so, and yet do not get arrested? Why is this not obviously wrong?
There looks to be value on the Tory Leader markets, laying Gove on the 'Make Final 2' (currently 7.6) and backing on the 'Next Conservative Leader' (currently 21).
Obviously not a true arb, but if he does make the final 2 surely his odds on the leader market will come in sufficiently that it may as well be.
The London mayoralty job is of course totally different from being Prime Minister.
Mostly it is about PR. Johnson did however make noticeable improvements in crime, cycling and building design - relying largely on an army of “deputy mayors” to do any of the real work.
Johnson’s key weaknesses are laziness, dishonesty, narcissism, and gimmickry. None of these were fatal to his Mayoralty.
Isn’t the reliance point what Cabinet government at its heart is meant to achieve? The micromanagement of, say, Brown (and some argue May) is the direct opposite of this. Clearly depends on the ability of Ministers (Cameron was fortunate for example).
I think it’s the unique combination of vices in Boris. He has them all, and facetiousness to boot.
Gove could still be prosecuted fot taking drugs back in the 1990s. No statutory limitation would apply to the offence.
If you feel so strongly about it, make a complaint to the police.
It is a story the Opposition parties can reasonably run with. How could the authorities justify NOT taking action. Showing preference to Gove and his ilk clearly brings the law into disrepute.
I don't think it would pass the evidentiary test, so am not sure how you're even getting to a prosecution.
I am geninely confused as to how you think a public confession does not pass the evidentiary test, and also why you think it would not constitute sufficient reason to being a private prosecution.
If someone said “I used to drink and drive all the time 20 years ago, but now I always take a taxi home”, would that constitute sufficient evidence to prosecute them now for past offences of drinking and driving?
IANAL, but I would say "yes".
This site often baffles me with its opinions. I accept that you may find your argument convincing, but please accept that not only do I disagree with it, I am genuinely baffled by your argument. Bad people do bad things, boast that they have done so, and yet do not get arrested? Why is this not obviously wrong?
Because courts need to see actual evidence that a crime was committed, rather than the boasting of the individual. Unless he wishes to plead guilty.
Should a young man, trying to impress a young lady, say in a message that “The Charlie was awesome last night, want to come out with me tomorrow?”, should that message in itself be sufficient to convict him of drug dealing, without any evidence that any drugs actually existed?
I know the rule is supposed to be to lay the favourite but unless he screws up, Boris looks like he should get this surely now?
The "lay the favorite" rule has an obvious flaw: unless things are way off[1], within a certain period of the ending the winner must have become the favorite. So past a certain point the "lay the favorite" heuristic must be abandoned. I don't know if we're past that point but if I had laid Boris I would be looking to offset it now.
[1] When Galloway was elected, IIRC the Labour guy remained favorite up to the declaration. Happy to be corrected on this.
Is Rory Stewart underpriced? Several polls make him the most popular Tory amongst non Tories, and actually the Conservative Party has historically had an instinct for self preservation, usually when all the alternatives lead to extinction.
The risk of an extinction level event for the Tories with Raab or Johnson for example, is pretty high. So given that a fair few of the headbanger members have gone off to Farage, and a fairly large bloc of MPs won't have Johnson at any price, could it be that the only actual Conservative in the race might do surprisingly well?
He does speak human, and although his failed drug test is exotic Opium rather than the commonplace Cocaine, his Eton/Black Watch commission/Oxford first (unlike Johnson's second) and MI6 career really impresses a certain kind of Tory MP.
Gove could still be prosecuted fot taking drugs back in the 1990s. No statutory limitation would apply to the offence.
If you feel so strongly about it, make a complaint to the police.
It is a story the Opposition parties can reasonably run with. How could the authorities justify NOT taking action. Showing preference to Gove and his ilk clearly brings the law into disrepute.
I don't think it would pass the evidentiary test, so am not sure how you're even getting to a prosecution.
I am geninely confused as to how you think a public confession does not pass the evidentiary test, and also why you think it would not constitute sufficient reason to being a private prosecution.
If someone said “I used to drink and drive all the time 20 years ago, but now I always take a taxi home”, would that constitute sufficient evidence to prosecute them now for past offences of drinking and driving?
IANAL, but I would say "yes".
This site often baffles me with its opinions. I accept that you may find your argument convincing, but please accept that not only do I disagree with it, I am genuinely baffled by your argument. Bad people do bad things, boast that they have done so, and yet do not get arrested? Why is this not obviously wrong?
Because courts need to see actual evidence that a crime was committed, rather than the boasting of the individual. Unless he wishes to plead guilty.
Should a young man, trying to impress a young lady, say in a message that “The Charlie was awesome last night, want to come out with me tomorrow?”, should that message in itself be sufficient to convict him of drug dealing, without any evidence that any drugs actually existed?
There's also the question of whether a prosecution is in the public interest. Layers of Gove aside, I don't think there is one.
Gove could still be prosecuted fot taking drugs back in the 1990s. No statutory limitation would apply to the offence.
If you feel so strongly about it, make a complaint to the police.
It is a story the Opposition parties can reasonably run with. How could the authorities justify NOT taking action. Showing preference to Gove and his ilk clearly brings the law into disrepute.
I don't think it would pass the evidentiary test, so am not sure how you're even getting to a prosecution.
I am geninely confused as to how you think a public confession does not pass the evidentiary test, and also why you think it would not constitute sufficient reason to being a private prosecution.
Because Gove can recant it (it wasn't given under oath) or he can genuinely have forgotten the events.
Then you're reliant on finding his supplier(s) who would be willing to admit committing a crime (and facing serious jail time themselves).
You'd need to find witnesses of the use, given the time passed, a half decent defence barrister would be able to cast doubt on the reliability and credibility of the witnesses.
Given there was no intent to supply on Gove's part the CPS would be right not to waste time on someone who did drugs 20 years ago.
Given the number of celebrities who have admitted drug use in the past and have never been prosecuted the CPS also don't wish to open themselves to an abuse of process charge.
As for a private prosecution, can you tell me who the precise victim(s) are.
0-15 child 15-30 young adult 30-45? 45-60 middle aged 60-75 silver surfer 75-90 old 90+ good for their age
Doing cocaine in your 30s is after your young adult phase.
IMHO
0-15: child 15-25: young adult 25-35: early middle age 35-45: middle age 45-55: late middle age 55-65: early old 65-75: old 75-85: very old 85-dead: frail elderly
The Barry Gardiner line makes me think of that Churchill comeback to being accused of being disgustingly drunk by a female MP: "My dear, you are ugly, and what's more, you are disgustingly ugly. But tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be disgustingly ugly."
Can't see that myself.
What is boorish and crass and misogynistic about what Barry said?
It was Bessie Braddock and, well I shall leave it to the reader to judge the veracity or otherwise of Churchill's retort...
I don't remember what Livingstone did in his first term tbh. Boris has been far and away the best mayor. Khan has been poor and full of excuses on knife crime. He seems more interested in banning bikini adverts on the tube and getting the police to chase people who say mean things on twitter than solving knife crime and other crimes that actually have a real effect on people.
Khan is utterly useless. I agree he has been the worst mayor. Although Livingstone was a rancid socialist, he had interesting ideas for London. Khan has nothing. Zip.
Yeah Khan rode Boris' coattails for a bit with the night tube and hopper fare which were both planned by the Boris administration, since then he's literally done nothing for London other than posture and bullshit.
He's supposed to stand up for London's industries on the global stage but seems to revel in stories about jobs leaving to Europe. He may not have voted for brexit and neither did the city as a whole, but it's still happening and spouting "London is open" a few times a month does nothing. I think that's where Boris was very good, he knew exactly how to represent London overseas and ensure that we were always in the conversation by bringing industry bodies with him. Khan seems to ignore the a lot of London's industries at the moment because they aren't giving him the negative brexit news he wants.
As we discussed on here a couple of days ago, brexit is going to have a lot of unlikely winners in Europe and it doesn't seem, at the moment, that London will lose very much at all. Khan can't seem to get his head around that.
Sadiq Khan does an excellent job of channelling and voicing his voters’ views. At a time when large parts of the country seem actively to hate London, that’s not to be underrated.
Can’t wait to hear his views, if and when the “Birmingham School Problem” manages to migrate south.
Who wins the game of identity politics top trumps? The LGB Labour conference yesterday condemned the party’s handling of the issue.
He's already spoken about it.
Sadiq Khan backs LGBT education in response to Parkfield protests
0-15 child 15-30 young adult 30-45? 45-60 middle aged 60-75 silver surfer 75-90 old 90+ good for their age
Doing cocaine in your 30s is after your young adult phase.
IMHO
0-15: child 15-25: young adult 25-35: early middle age 35-45: middle age 45-55: late middle age 55-65: early old 65-75: old 75-85: very old 85-dead: frail elderly
At 80+ I've found that using a walking stick gets me a certain amount of care and consideration.
And I don't have to hit people with it very hard, either.
Given the number of celebrities who have admitted drug use in the past and have never been prosecuted the CPS also don't wish to open themselves to an abuse of process charge.
There. Right there. And the fact that you even typed that and didn't notice how immoral it was is concerning.
"Celebs have dunnit so that's OK". Really? Really? Is that how it works?
The Barry Gardiner line makes me think of that Churchill comeback to being accused of being disgustingly drunk by a female MP: "My dear, you are ugly, and what's more, you are disgustingly ugly. But tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be disgustingly ugly."
Can't see that myself.
What is boorish and crass and misogynistic about what Barry said?
It was Bessie Braddock and, well I shall leave it to the reader to judge the veracity or otherwise of Churchill's retort...
Khan is utterly useless. I agree he has been the worst mayor. Although Livingstone was a rancid socialist, he had interesting ideas for London. Khan has nothing. Zip.
Yeah Khan rode Boris' coattails for a bit with the night tube and hopper fare which were both planned by the Boris administration, since then he's literally done nothing for London other than posture and bullshit.
He's supposed to stand up for London's industries on the global stage but seems to revel in stories about jobs leaving to Europe. He may not have voted for brexit and neither did the city as a whole, but it's still happening and spouting "London is open" a few times a month does nothing. I think that's where Boris was very good, he knew exactly how to represent London overseas and ensure that we were always in the conversation by bringing industry bodies with him. Khan seems to ignore the a lot of London's industries at the moment because they aren't giving him the negative brexit news he wants.
As we discussed on here a couple of days ago, brexit is going to have a lot of unlikely winners in Europe and it doesn't seem, at the moment, that London will lose very much at all. Khan can't seem to get his head around that.
Sadiq Khan does an excellent job of channelling and voicing his voters’ views. At a time when large parts of the country seem actively to hate London, that’s not to be underrated.
Can’t wait to hear his views, if and when the “Birmingham School Problem” manages to migrate south.
Who wins the game of identity politics top trumps? The LGB Labour conference yesterday condemned the party’s handling of the issue.
He's already spoken about it.
Sadiq Khan backs LGBT education in response to Parkfield protests
I'm *amazed* that you are so utterly blind to anti-Semitism amongst your political friends, yet are so acutely sensitive to perceived racism by your enemies.
It's almost as though you don't actually care about racism, except as a political weapon.
It may be unfair, but I suspect you'd be shocked how disliked London is in the rest of the country. And it extends across all classes of voters.
I’m well aware how much provincials hate the people who fund their lifestyle, as are most Londoners. That’s why a mayor who speaks for them in the face of an onslaught from angry freeloaders is doing ok.
I work in London but live in Woking. Does that make me a hardworker or a free-loader?
I was wondering much the same thing
You’re a hypocrite, frotting yourself into a frenzy about anti-Semitism and then cheerfully lining up behind race-baiters whenever it suits your own agenda. Hope that helps.
You REALLY want to talk about hypocites look at yourself first.
Obama “ancestral dislike of the British empire” because he was “part-Kenyan”
"Papua New Guinea-style orgies of cannibalism and chief-killing"
“The best fate for Africa would be if the old colonial powers, or their citizens, scrambled once again in her direction; on the understanding that this time they will not be asked to feel guilty.”
Given the number of celebrities who have admitted drug use in the past and have never been prosecuted the CPS also don't wish to open themselves to an abuse of process charge.
There. Right there. And the fact that you even typed that and didn't notice how immoral it was is concerning.
"Celebs have dunnit so that's OK". Really? Really? Is that how it works?
There's a reason why the words and autobiographies of plebs aren't on the front page of the papers.
But if you have social media account post on there you committed, a non violent, non sexual, crime, without details and see if the rozzers come knocking on your door.
PS - Still waiting for an answer for who are the precise/exact victims of Gove's crime.
I don't remember what Livingstone did in his first term tbh. Boris has been far and away the best mayor. Khan has been poor and full of excuses on knife crime. He seems more interested in banning bikini adverts on the tube and getting the police to chase people who say mean things on twitter than solving knife crime and other crimes that actually have a real effect on people.
Khan is utterly useless. I agree he has been the worst mayor. Although Livingstone was a rancid socialist, he had interesting ideas for London. Khan has nothing. Zip.
Yeah Khan rode Boris' coattails for a bit with the night tube and hopper fare which were both planned by the Boris administration, since then he's literally done nothing for London other than posture and bullshit.
.
Sadiq Khan does an excellent job of channelling and voicing his voters’ views. At a time when large parts of the country seem actively to hate London, that’s not to be underrated.
Can’t wait to hear his views, if and when the “Birmingham School Problem” manages to migrate south.
Who wins the game of identity politics top trumps? The LGB Labour conference yesterday condemned the party’s handling of the issue.
He's already spoken about it.
Sadiq Khan backs LGBT education in response to Parkfield protests
Khan is utterly useless. I agree he has been the worst mayor. Although Livingstone was a rancid socialist, he had interesting ideas for London. Khan has nothing. Zip.
Yeah Khan rode Boris' coattails for a bit with the night tube and hopper fare which were both planned by the Boris administration, since then he's literally done nothing for London other than posture and bullshit.
He's supposed to stand up for London's industries on the global stage but seems to revel in stories about jobs leaving to Europe. He may not have voted for brexit and neither did the city as a whole, but it's still happening and spouting "London is open" a few times a month does nothing. I think that's where Boris was very good, he knew exactly how to represent London overseas and ensure that we were always in the conversation by bringing industry bodies with him. Khan seems to ignore the a lot of London's industries at the moment because they aren't giving him the negative brexit news he wants.
As we discussed on here a couple of days ago, brexit is going to have a lot of unlikely winners in Europe and it doesn't seem, at the moment, that London will lose very much at all. Khan can't seem to get his head around that.
Sadiq Khan does an excellent job of channelling and voicing his voters’ views. At a time when large parts of the country seem actively to hate London, that’s not to be underrated.
Can’t wait to hear his views, if and when the “Birmingham School Problem” manages to migrate south.
Who wins the game of identity politics top trumps? The LGB Labour conference yesterday condemned the party’s handling of the issue.
He's already spoken about it.
Sadiq Khan backs LGBT education in response to Parkfield protests
Khan is utterly useless. I agree he has been the worst mayor. Although Livingstone was a rancid socialist, he had interesting ideas for London. Khan has nothing. Zip.
Yeah Khan rode Boris' coattails for a bit with the night tube and hopper fare which were both planned by the Boris administration, since then he's literally done nothing for London other than posture and bullshit.
He's supposed to stand up for London's industries on the global stage but seems to revel in stories about jobs leaving to Europe. He may not have voted for brexit and neither did the city as a whole, but it's still happening and spouting "London is open" a few times a month does nothing. I think that's where Boris was very good, he knew exactly how to represent London overseas and ensure that we were always in the conversation by bringing industry bodies with him. Khan seems to ignore the a lot of London's industries at the moment because they aren't giving him the negative brexit news he wants.
As we discussed on here a couple of days ago, brexit is going to have a lot of unlikely winners in Europe and it doesn't seem, at the moment, that London will lose very much at all. Khan can't seem to get his head around that.
Sadiq Khan does an excellent job of channelling and voicing his voters’ views. At a time when large parts of the country seem actively to hate London, that’s not to be underrated.
Can’t wait to hear his views, if and when the “Birmingham School Problem” manages to migrate south.
Who wins the game of identity politics top trumps? The LGB Labour conference yesterday condemned the party’s handling of the issue.
He's already spoken about it.
Sadiq Khan backs LGBT education in response to Parkfield protests
Given the number of celebrities who have admitted drug use in the past and have never been prosecuted the CPS also don't wish to open themselves to an abuse of process charge.
There. Right there. And the fact that you even typed that and didn't notice how immoral it was is concerning.
"Celebs have dunnit so that's OK". Really? Really? Is that how it works?
There's a reason why the words and autobiographies of plebs aren't on the front page of the papers.
But if you have social media account post on there you committed, a non violent, non sexual, crime, without details and see if the rozzers come knocking on your door.
PS - Still waiting for an answer for who are the precise/exact victims of Gove's crime.
The reason why I didn't answer your question about the victims of Gove's crime is because it is not necessary for a crime to have a victim. This point was (IIRC) settled by a case where an employee removed money from an account, made a bet with it, won that bet, then returned the money to the employer's account. The employee was tried and found guilty even though no harm had manifested for the employer.
0-15 child 15-30 young adult 30-45? 45-60 middle aged 60-75 silver surfer 75-90 old 90+ good for their age
Doing cocaine in your 30s is after your young adult phase.
It's difficult to apply age groups to everyone because for instance some people are still young in lots of ways in their early 30s whereas others are already pretty old by that stage.
Given the number of celebrities who have admitted drug use in the past and have never been prosecuted the CPS also don't wish to open themselves to an abuse of process charge.
There. Right there. And the fact that you even typed that and didn't notice how immoral it was is concerning.
"Celebs have dunnit so that's OK". Really? Really? Is that how it works?
There's a reason why the words and autobiographies of plebs aren't on the front page of the papers.
But if you have social media account post on there you committed, a non violent, non sexual, crime, without details and see if the rozzers come knocking on your door.
PS - Still waiting for an answer for who are the precise/exact victims of Gove's crime.
The reason why I didn't answer your question about the victims of Gove's crime is because it is not necessary for a crime to have a victim. This point was (IIRC) settled by a case where an employee removed money from an account, made a bet with it, won that bet, then returned the money to the employer's account. The employee was tried and found guilty even though no harm had manifested for the employer.
There's different rules for private prosecutions, that's why I asked about victims.
It may be unfair, but I suspect you'd be shocked how disliked London is in the rest of the country. And it extends across all classes of voters.
I’m well aware how much provincials hate the people who fund their lifestyle, as are most Londoners. That’s why a mayor who speaks for them in the face of an onslaught from angry freeloaders is doing ok.
I work in London but live in Woking. Does that make me a hardworker or a free-loader?
You make a valid point though.
London's wealth isn't entirely generated by Londoners - but the entire south east region and beyond as well as the investment the Government has put in in infrastructure such as London transport. Many Londoners (perhaps a third) take out far more than they pay in - in terms of housing benefit, social housing, tax credits, welfare generally etc - and certainly don't pay their way.
It wasn't that long ago Grayling and Khan were heralding Crossrail 2 - a £40 billion scheme to make the journeys of commuters from Twickenham, Wimbledon and Surbiton into work easier. I expect residents of Tamside, Widnes and Sunderland would love that sort of cash spent on their routes to work.
Given the number of celebrities who have admitted drug use in the past and have never been prosecuted the CPS also don't wish to open themselves to an abuse of process charge.
There. Right there. And the fact that you even typed that and didn't notice how immoral it was is concerning.
"Celebs have dunnit so that's OK". Really? Really? Is that how it works?
There's a reason why the words and autobiographies of plebs aren't on the front page of the papers.
But if you have social media account post on there you committed, a non violent, non sexual, crime, without details and see if the rozzers come knocking on your door.
PS - Still waiting for an answer for who are the precise/exact victims of Gove's crime.
The reason why I didn't answer your question about the victims of Gove's crime is because it is not necessary for a crime to have a victim. This point was (IIRC) settled by a case where an employee removed money from an account, made a bet with it, won that bet, then returned the money to the employer's account. The employee was tried and found guilty even though no harm had manifested for the employer.
There's different rules for private prosecutions, that's why I asked about victims.
Don’t worry, some twat will gouge halfwits to crowdfund a (auto-fail) private prosecution. I do have views on crowdfunding as a basis to conduct litigation.
Gove could still be prosecuted fot taking drugs back in the 1990s. No statutory limitation would apply to the offence.
If you feel so strongly about it, make a complaint to the police.
It is a story the Opposition parties can reasonably run with. How could the authorities justify NOT taking action. Showing preference to Gove and his ilk clearly brings the law into disrepute.
I don't think it would pass the evidentiary test, so am not sure how you're even getting to a prosecution.
I am geninely confused as to how you think a public confession does not pass the evidentiary test, and also why you think it would not constitute sufficient reason to being a private prosecution.
If someone said “I used to drink and drive all the time 20 years ago, but now I always take a taxi home”, would that constitute sufficient evidence to prosecute them now for past offences of drinking and driving?
Is a confession enough to prosecution someone? I'd have thought you would need other evidence and/or witnesses.
Khan is utterly useless. I agree he has been the worst mayor. Although Livingstone was a rancid socialist, he had interesting ideas for London. Khan has nothing. Zip.
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Sadiq Khan does an excellent job of channelling and voicing his voters’ views. At a time when large parts of the country seem actively to hate London, that’s not to be underrated.
Can’t wait to hear his views, if and when the “Birmingham School Problem” manages to migrate south.
Who wins the game of identity politics top trumps? The LGB Labour conference yesterday condemned the party’s handling of the issue.
He's already spoken about it.
Sadiq Khan backs LGBT education in response to Parkfield protests
Fair play to him, but he’s talking there about the problem in Birmingham. Virtue signalling at a distance.
Do you think he’d say the same about a similar protest in London, in his own patch and in opposition to those who would help re-elect him?
He did at a recent pride event.
But which London school?
Not sure what you mean.
I mean that it’s really easy for him to pontificate from afar about how he would deal with the situation, but how would he actually react if something similar actually occurred on his watch, with every Imam in London accusing him of being the equivalent of a “Coconut” and threatening to stand a candidate against him?
(Actually, I think it’s hilarious to see lefty identity politics eat itself, doubly so from a city far away that is quite clear that either you abide by our rules or go somewhere else).
I find it hard to care about Gove's criminality with regards to taking drugs. I do care about his happiness to turn a blind eye to others who were engaged in the more serious offence of dealing in drugs.
If he wants to make a clean breast of things then he should turn over every last recollection to the police to be investigated.
Gove could still be prosecuted fot taking drugs back in the 1990s. No statutory limitation would apply to the offence.
If you feel so strongly about it, make a complaint to the police.
It is a story the Opposition parties can reasonably run with. How could the authorities justify NOT taking action. Showing preference to Gove and his ilk clearly brings the law into disrepute.
I don't think it would pass the evidentiary test, so am not sure how you're even getting to a prosecution.
I am geninely confused as to how you think a public confession does not pass the evidentiary test, and also why you think it would not constitute sufficient reason to being a private prosecution.
If someone said “I used to drink and drive all the time 20 years ago, but now I always take a taxi home”, would that constitute sufficient evidence to prosecute them now for past offences of drinking and driving?
Is a confession enough to prosecution someone? I'd have thought you would need other evidence and/or witnesses.
If the confession was taken by a policeman and signed by the defendant, then it’s valid.
If it’s an op-ed column in a newspaper then not so much, unless there’s evidence from elsewhere.
It may be unfair, but I suspect you'd be shocked how disliked London is in the rest of the country. And it extends across all classes of voters.
I’m well aware how much provincials hate the people who fund their lifestyle, as are most Londoners. That’s why a mayor who speaks for them in the face of an onslaught from angry freeloaders is doing ok.
I work in London but live in Woking. Does that make me a hardworker or a free-loader?
You make a valid point though.
London's wealth isn't entirely generated by Londoners - but the entire south east region and beyond as well as the investment the Government has put in in infrastructure such as London transport. Many Londoners (perhaps a third) take out far more than they pay in - in terms of housing benefit, social housing, tax credits, welfare generally etc - and certainly don't pay their way.
It wasn't that long ago Grayling and Khan were heralding Crossrail 2 - a £40 billion scheme to make the journeys of commuters from Twickenham, Wimbledon and Surbiton into work easier. I expect residents of Tamside, Widnes and Sunderland would love that sort of cash spent on their routes to work.
Good point. But Brexit should solve any problems getting to work in Sunderland
Given the number of celebrities who have admitted drug use in the past and have never been prosecuted the CPS also don't wish to open themselves to an abuse of process charge.
There. Right there. And the fact that you even typed that and didn't notice how immoral it was is concerning.
"Celebs have dunnit so that's OK". Really? Really? Is that how it works?
There's a reason why the words and autobiographies of plebs aren't on the front page of the papers.
But if you have social media account post on there you committed, a non violent, non sexual, crime, without details and see if the rozzers come knocking on your door.
PS - Still waiting for an answer for who are the precise/exact victims of Gove's crime.
The reason why I didn't answer your question about the victims of Gove's crime is because it is not necessary for a crime to have a victim. This point was (IIRC) settled by a case where an employee removed money from an account, made a bet with it, won that bet, then returned the money to the employer's account. The employee was tried and found guilty even though no harm had manifested for the employer.
There's different rules for private prosecutions, that's why I asked about victims.
Are you telling me that people cannot bring private prosecutions for violations of the Misuse of Drugs Act(s)?
Gove could still be prosecuted fot taking drugs back in the 1990s. No statutory limitation would apply to the offence.
If you feel so strongly about it, make a complaint to the police.
It is a story the Opposition parties can reasonably run with. How could the authorities justify NOT taking action. Showing preference to Gove and his ilk clearly brings the law into disrepute.
I don't think it would pass the evidentiary test, so am not sure how you're even getting to a prosecution.
I am geninely confused as to how you think a public confession does not pass the evidentiary test, and also why you think it would not constitute sufficient reason to being a private prosecution.
If someone said “I used to drink and drive all the time 20 years ago, but now I always take a taxi home”, would that constitute sufficient evidence to prosecute them now for past offences of drinking and driving?
Is a confession enough to prosecution someone? I'd have thought you would need other evidence and/or witnesses.
If the confession was taken by a policeman and signed by the defendant, then it’s valid.
If it’s an op-ed column in a newspaper then not so much, unless there’s evidence from elsewhere.
Well depends if there was legal representation or not (or if it was waived) during the confession, otherwise we're in Birmingham Six territory.
£240k for a one bedroomed flat? Barking seems appropriate on so many levels.
And the floor plan has no numbers on it, nowhere on the ad does it say how many square feet you get for your £240k in Barking. I’m going to guess it’s closer to 400 than 500.
Gove could still be prosecuted fot taking drugs back in the 1990s. No statutory limitation would apply to the offence.
If you feel so strongly about it, make a complaint to the police.
It is a story the Opposition parties can reasonably run with. How could the authorities justify NOT taking action. Showing preference to Gove and his ilk clearly brings the law into disrepute.
I don't think it would pass the evidentiary test, so am not sure how you're even getting to a prosecution.
I am geninely confused as to how you think a public confession does not pass the evidentiary test, and also why you think it would not constitute sufficient reason to being a private prosecution.
If someone said “I used to drink and drive all the time 20 years ago, but now I always take a taxi home”, would that constitute sufficient evidence to prosecute them now for past offences of drinking and driving?
Is a confession enough to prosecution someone? I'd have thought you would need other evidence and/or witnesses.
If the confession was taken by a policeman and signed by the defendant, then it’s valid.
If it’s an op-ed column in a newspaper then not so much, unless there’s evidence from elsewhere.
Uncorroborated oral confession (eg to companion in prison cell) in principle sufficient though CPS would often regard it as insufficient for realistic prospect of conviction. Confessions to police officers are hedged about with regulation, but properly taken can convict without other evidence. If you think about it, a reliable confession is the best evidence you can possibly get.
Okay, I'll explain. Someone can do something like take cocaine and then go back to normal (though I suspect drinking regularly was a big part of who Churchill was). Lisa Forbes is an antisemite. She might not like Facebook posts now she knows people are watching, but that does not alter the fact that she is a racist.
Ah I see. So the Barry remark did not remind you of the Churchill remark on a like for like basis - what it did was bring to your mind the Churchill remark as a suitable repost to the Barry remark. Yes I see now. All cool.
Minor quibble - one would hope that it is possible in many cases to be educated out of antisemitism.
£240k for a one bedroomed flat? Barking seems appropriate on so many levels.
And the floor plan has no numbers on it, nowhere on the ad does it say how many square feet you get for your £240k in Barking. I’m going to guess it’s closer to 400 than 500.
It may be unfair, but I suspect you'd be shocked how disliked London is in the rest of the country. And it extends across all classes of voters.
I’m well aware how much provincials hate the people who fund their lifestyle, as are most Londoners. That’s why a mayor who speaks for them in the face of an onslaught from angry freeloaders is doing ok.
I work in London but live in Woking. Does that make me a hardworker or a free-loader?
You make a valid point though.
London's wealth isn't entirely generated by Londoners - but the entire south east region and beyond as well as the investment the Government has put in in infrastructure such as London transport. Many Londoners (perhaps a third) take out far more than they pay in - in terms of housing benefit, social housing, tax credits, welfare generally etc - and certainly don't pay their way.
It wasn't that long ago Grayling and Khan were heralding Crossrail 2 - a £40 billion scheme to make the journeys of commuters from Twickenham, Wimbledon and Surbiton into work easier. I expect residents of Tamside, Widnes and Sunderland would love that sort of cash spent on their routes to work.
Good point. But Brexit should solve any problems getting to work in Sunderland
And the points I raised were of course part of the reason many voted for Brexit - cos Sunderland barely gets a tiny percentage of the transport investment Surbiton does.
£240k for a one bedroomed flat? Barking seems appropriate on so many levels.
And the floor plan has no numbers on it, nowhere on the ad does it say how many square feet you get for your £240k in Barking. I’m going to guess it’s closer to 400 than 500.
It may be unfair, but I suspect you'd be shocked how disliked London is in the rest of the country. And it extends across all classes of voters.
I’m well aware how much provincials hate the people who fund their lifestyle, as are most Londoners. That’s why a mayor who speaks for them in the face of an onslaught from angry freeloaders is doing ok.
I work in London but live in Woking. Does that make me a hardworker or a free-loader?
You make a valid point though.
London's wealth isn't entirely generated by Londoners - but the entire south east region and beyond as well as the investment the Government has put in in infrastructure such as London transport. Many Londoners (perhaps a third) take out far more than they pay in - in terms of housing benefit, social housing, tax credits, welfare generally etc - and certainly don't pay their way.
It wasn't that long ago Grayling and Khan were heralding Crossrail 2 - a £40 billion scheme to make the journeys of commuters from Twickenham, Wimbledon and Surbiton into work easier. I expect residents of Tamside, Widnes and Sunderland would love that sort of cash spent on their routes to work.
Good point. But Brexit should solve any problems getting to work in Sunderland
And the points I raised were of course part of the reason many voted for Brexit - cos Sunderland barely gets a tiny percentage of the transport investment Surbiton does.
Alternatively they should they would get a free hit at the government because the Brexiteers assured them that we held all the cards and only a fool would think no-deal would be the conclusion.
Okay, I'll explain. Someone can do something like take cocaine and then go back to normal (though I suspect drinking regularly was a big part of who Churchill was). Lisa Forbes is an antisemite. She might not like Facebook posts now she knows people are watching, but that does not alter the fact that she is a racist.
Ah I see. So the Barry remark did not remind you of the Churchill remark on a like for like basis - what it did was bring to your mind the Churchill remark as a suitable repost to the Barry remark. Yes I see now. All cool.
Minor quibble - one would hope that it is possible in many cases to be educated out of antisemitism.
Sorry, I should have been a bit more explicit in my original post.
I'm not sure, I reckon there's more chance of making Ann Widdicombe attractive than changing the views of a Labour MP.
Is Rory Stewart underpriced? Several polls make him the most popular Tory amongst non Tories, and actually the Conservative Party has historically had an instinct for self preservation, usually when all the alternatives lead to extinction.
The risk of an extinction level event for the Tories with Raab or Johnson for example, is pretty high. So given that a fair few of the headbanger members have gone off to Farage, and a fairly large bloc of MPs won't have Johnson at any price, could it be that the only actual Conservative in the race might do surprisingly well?
He does speak human, and although his failed drug test is exotic Opium rather than the commonplace Cocaine, his Eton/Black Watch commission/Oxford first (unlike Johnson's second) and MI6 career really impresses a certain kind of Tory MP.
Johnson has enemies, Stewart doesn't. If he gets into the last two, I think he might just make it all the way.
Would love to live in a country where Rory would walk a GE as PM, but I don't. I think Tory members know this too. Foreign Secretary please for Mr Stewart.
I'm *amazed* that you are so utterly blind to anti-Semitism amongst your political friends, yet are so acutely sensitive to perceived racism by your enemies.
It's almost as though you don't actually care about racism, except as a political weapon.
Not an accusation against you but it is undeniable that the reverse also applies and widely - that antisemitism in Labour is being exploited to the hilt by political opponents many of whom are not as a general rule the most passionate of warriors against racism.
Rod Liddle for example - he is simply LIVID about antisemitism in Labour.
Given the number of celebrities who have admitted drug use in the past and have never been prosecuted the CPS also don't wish to open themselves to an abuse of process charge.
There. Right there. And the fact that you even typed that and didn't notice how immoral it was is concerning.
"Celebs have dunnit so that's OK". Really? Really? Is that how it works?
There's a reason why the words and autobiographies of plebs aren't on the front page of the papers.
But if you have social media account post on there you committed, a non violent, non sexual, crime, without details and see if the rozzers come knocking on your door.
PS - Still waiting for an answer for who are the precise/exact victims of Gove's crime.
The reason why I didn't answer your question about the victims of Gove's crime is because it is not necessary for a crime to have a victim. This point was (IIRC) settled by a case where an employee removed money from an account, made a bet with it, won that bet, then returned the money to the employer's account. The employee was tried and found guilty even though no harm had manifested for the employer.
There's different rules for private prosecutions, that's why I asked about victims.
Are you telling me that people cannot bring private prosecutions for violations of the Misuse of Drugs Act(s)?
IIRC if you haven't been directly impacted by the crime or related/linked to a victim, then no.
Am fairly certain some drug offences require the consent of the AG for a private prosecution
Is Rory Stewart underpriced? Several polls make him the most popular Tory amongst non Tories, and actually the Conservative Party has historically had an instinct for self preservation, usually when all the alternatives lead to extinction.
The risk of an extinction level event for the Tories with Raab or Johnson for example, is pretty high. So given that a fair few of the headbanger members have gone off to Farage, and a fairly large bloc of MPs won't have Johnson at any price, could it be that the only actual Conservative in the race might do surprisingly well?
He does speak human, and although his failed drug test is exotic Opium rather than the commonplace Cocaine, his Eton/Black Watch commission/Oxford first (unlike Johnson's second) and MI6 career really impresses a certain kind of Tory MP.
Johnson has enemies, Stewart doesn't. If he gets into the last two, I think he might just make it all the way.
Would love to live in a country where Rory would walk a GE as PM, but I don't. I think Tory members know this too. Foreign Secretary please for Mr Stewart.
He’d make a great Foreign Secretary. Probably joint favourite with Penny for leader-after-next.
£240k for a one bedroomed flat? Barking seems appropriate on so many levels.
And the floor plan has no numbers on it, nowhere on the ad does it say how many square feet you get for your £240k in Barking. I’m going to guess it’s closer to 400 than 500.
(Edit: obviously assume it’s not yet occupied, and there’s no injuries from the fire except financial injuries to an insurance company).
Lets hope so. It's going to lead to more stuff that needs to be looked at in relation to fire safety for flats though, an issue you simply don't get to the same degree with houses.
Given the number of celebrities who have admitted drug use in the past and have never been prosecuted the CPS also don't wish to open themselves to an abuse of process charge.
There. Right there. And the fact that you even typed that and didn't notice how immoral it was is concerning.
"Celebs have dunnit so that's OK". Really? Really? Is that how it works?
There's a reason why the words and autobiographies of plebs aren't on the front page of the papers.
But if you have social media account post on there you committed, a non violent, non sexual, crime, without details and see if the rozzers come knocking on your door.
PS - Still waiting for an answer for who are the precise/exact victims of Gove's crime.
The reason why I didn't answer your question about the victims of Gove's crime is because it is not necessary for a crime to have a victim. This point was (IIRC) settled by a case where an employee removed money from an account, made a bet with it, won that bet, then returned the money to the employer's account. The employee was tried and found guilty even though no harm had manifested for the employer.
There's different rules for private prosecutions, that's why I asked about victims.
Are you telling me that people cannot bring private prosecutions for violations of the Misuse of Drugs Act(s)?
IIRC if you haven't been directly impacted by the crime or related/linked to a victim, then no.
Am fairly certain some drug offences require the consent of the AG for a private prosecution
CPS can take private prosecution over and stop them if not in the public interest to prosecute
Is Rory Stewart underpriced? Several polls make him the most popular Tory amongst non Tories, and actually the Conservative Party has historically had an instinct for self preservation, usually when all the alternatives lead to extinction.
The risk of an extinction level event for the Tories with Raab or Johnson for example, is pretty high. So given that a fair few of the headbanger members have gone off to Farage, and a fairly large bloc of MPs won't have Johnson at any price, could it be that the only actual Conservative in the race might do surprisingly well?
He does speak human, and although his failed drug test is exotic Opium rather than the commonplace Cocaine, his Eton/Black Watch commission/Oxford first (unlike Johnson's second) and MI6 career really impresses a certain kind of Tory MP.
Johnson has enemies, Stewart doesn't. If he gets into the last two, I think he might just make it all the way.
Would love to live in a country where Rory would walk a GE as PM, but I don't. I think Tory members know this too. Foreign Secretary please for Mr Stewart.
He’d make a great Foreign Secretary. Probably joint favourite with Penny for leader-after-next.
I agree he's very good.
Ideas such as a 'Citizen's assembly' derail him though.
Speaking of Tameside, Widnes and Sunderland, I would love to hear more from those hoping to be next PM as well as the opposition parties about what on earth they hope to do to start increasing the opportunities in these areas.
There are three things for me that are critical
1 - education needs to be valued more greatly by the local populations and vastly improved
2 - devolution of powers neeeds to happen on a grand scale, including the ability to raise money and spend it how the locals desire, along with the associated risks being borne locally
3 - vast investment in transport to and between the regions, HS2 must happen in parallel with NPR to link the cities but intra urban investment is also badly lacking.
Even with those delivered, I struggle to see much of a positive future for many of the towns and cities whose reason for existing has long since gone.
Maybe the idea of managed decline may at some point have to be on the table for some places.
£240k for a one bedroomed flat? Barking seems appropriate on so many levels.
And the floor plan has no numbers on it, nowhere on the ad does it say how many square feet you get for your £240k in Barking. I’m going to guess it’s closer to 400 than 500.
(Edit: obviously assume it’s not yet occupied, and there’s no injuries from the fire except financial injuries to an insurance company).
Lets hope so. It's going to lead to more stuff that needs to be looked at in relation to fire safety for flats though, an issue you simply don't get to the same degree with houses.
AIUI low-rise flats are well covered by the fire code, the issues are with cladding on tower blocks, both new and refurbished, and safeguarding residents during refurbishments.
That fire looks almost completely external in nature, and the staircases are going to be at the back (and there will be several of them).
"For the first time, the Iowa poll accounts for new rules proposed this year by the Iowa Democratic Party that will allow Iowans to participate in a virtual caucus online or over the phone."
£240k for a one bedroomed flat? Barking seems appropriate on so many levels.
And the floor plan has no numbers on it, nowhere on the ad does it say how many square feet you get for your £240k in Barking. I’m going to guess it’s closer to 400 than 500.
Sorry, I should have been a bit more explicit in my original post.
I'm not sure, I reckon there's more chance of making Ann Widdicombe attractive than changing the views of a Labour MP.
I think if the antisemitism of a person (Labour MP or otherwise) is coming from an overzealous identification with the Palestinian cause but is not yet manifesting as prejudice against Jews per se then it ought to be addressable in most cases.
Sorry, I should have been a bit more explicit in my original post.
I'm not sure, I reckon there's more chance of making Ann Widdicombe attractive than changing the views of a Labour MP.
I think if the antisemitism of a person (Labour MP or otherwise) is coming from an overzealous identification with the Palestinian cause but is not yet manifesting as prejudice against Jews per se then it ought to be addressable in most cases.
Great, so Labour simply need to show evidence of this, and the person concerned making a public statement about the unacceptability of their previous views.
"For the first time, the Iowa poll accounts for new rules proposed this year by the Iowa Democratic Party that will allow Iowans to participate in a virtual caucus online or over the phone."
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I’m betting hard on the cricket, as I need to quickly find several hundred quid I don’t have to cover the last three years of laying Boris!
Who wins the game of identity politics top trumps? The LGB Labour conference yesterday condemned the party’s handling of the issue.
0-15 child
15-30 young adult
30-45?
45-60 middle aged
60-75 silver surfer
75-90 old
90+ good for their age
Doing cocaine in your 30s is after your young adult phase.
Sadiq Khan backs LGBT education in response to Parkfield protests
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/04/10/sadiq-khan-lgbt-education-parkfield-protests/
What is boorish and crass and misogynistic about what Barry said?
Do you think he’d say the same about a similar protest in London, in his own patch and in opposition to those who would help re-elect him?
This site often baffles me with its opinions. I accept that you may find your argument convincing, but please accept that not only do I disagree with it, I am genuinely baffled by your argument. Bad people do bad things, boast that they have done so, and yet do not get arrested? Why is this not obviously wrong?
0-15 chrysalis adult.
15-30 prototype adult.
30-45 trainee adult.
45-60 adult trainer.
60-75 adult manager.
75-90 managed adult.
90+ past adult.
I hope I'm never totally an adult ...
Obviously not a true arb, but if he does make the final 2 surely his odds on the leader market will come in sufficiently that it may as well be.
Should a young man, trying to impress a young lady, say in a message that “The Charlie was awesome last night, want to come out with me tomorrow?”, should that message in itself be sufficient to convict him of drug dealing, without any evidence that any drugs actually existed?
[1] When Galloway was elected, IIRC the Labour guy remained favorite up to the declaration. Happy to be corrected on this.
The risk of an extinction level event for the Tories with Raab or Johnson for example, is pretty high. So given that a fair few of the headbanger members have gone off to Farage, and a fairly large bloc of MPs won't have Johnson at any price, could it be that the only actual Conservative in the race might do surprisingly well?
He does speak human, and although his failed drug test is exotic Opium rather than the commonplace Cocaine, his Eton/Black Watch commission/Oxford first (unlike Johnson's second) and MI6 career really impresses a certain kind of Tory MP.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/news/104437/rory-stewart-and-boris-johnson-joint-top
Johnson has enemies, Stewart doesn't. If he gets into the last two, I think he might just make it all the way.
Then you're reliant on finding his supplier(s) who would be willing to admit committing a crime (and facing serious jail time themselves).
You'd need to find witnesses of the use, given the time passed, a half decent defence barrister would be able to cast doubt on the reliability and credibility of the witnesses.
Given there was no intent to supply on Gove's part the CPS would be right not to waste time on someone who did drugs 20 years ago.
Given the number of celebrities who have admitted drug use in the past and have never been prosecuted the CPS also don't wish to open themselves to an abuse of process charge.
As for a private prosecution, can you tell me who the precise victim(s) are.
0-15: child
15-25: young adult
25-35: early middle age
35-45: middle age
45-55: late middle age
55-65: early old
65-75: old
75-85: very old
85-dead: frail elderly
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/bessie-braddock-people-of-liverpool-3347507
And I don't have to hit people with it very hard, either.
Edit for SOM error.
"Celebs have dunnit so that's OK". Really? Really? Is that how it works?
It's almost as though you don't actually care about racism, except as a political weapon.
Picanninnies and ‘watermelon smiles’
Obama “ancestral dislike of the British empire” because he was “part-Kenyan”
"Papua New Guinea-style orgies of cannibalism and chief-killing"
“The best fate for Africa would be if the old colonial powers, or their citizens, scrambled once again in her direction; on the understanding that this time they will not be asked to feel guilty.”
But if you have social media account post on there you committed, a non violent, non sexual, crime, without details and see if the rozzers come knocking on your door.
PS - Still waiting for an answer for who are the precise/exact victims of Gove's crime.
Money spent investigating abuse of children had been “spaffed up the wall”
London's wealth isn't entirely generated by Londoners - but the entire south east region and beyond as well as the investment the Government has put in in infrastructure such as London transport. Many Londoners (perhaps a third) take out far more than they pay in - in terms of housing benefit, social housing, tax credits, welfare generally etc - and certainly don't pay their way.
It wasn't that long ago Grayling and Khan were heralding Crossrail 2 - a £40 billion scheme to make the journeys of commuters from Twickenham, Wimbledon and Surbiton into work easier. I expect residents of Tamside, Widnes and Sunderland would love that sort of cash spent on their routes to work.
(Actually, I think it’s hilarious to see lefty identity politics eat itself, doubly so from a city far away that is quite clear that either you abide by our rules or go somewhere else).
If he wants to make a clean breast of things then he should turn over every last recollection to the police to be investigated.
100-125 : JackW of PB
If it’s an op-ed column in a newspaper then not so much, unless there’s evidence from elsewhere.
1 bed flat for sale
De Pass Gardens, Barking IG11
Investment
https://twitter.com/sixthformpoet/status/1137658720698228736
India scored 116 off last 10overs
So if Aussies go at 7 an Over for overs 27 to 40 they would require the same to win.
Minor quibble - one would hope that it is possible in many cases to be educated out of antisemitism.
https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/1137739069658750976
Whoops.
(Edit: obviously assume it’s not yet occupied, and there’s no injuries from the fire except financial injuries to an insurance company).
I'm not sure, I reckon there's more chance of making Ann Widdicombe attractive than changing the views of a Labour MP.
Rod Liddle for example - he is simply LIVID about antisemitism in Labour.
Am fairly certain some drug offences require the consent of the AG for a private prosecution
Ideas such as a 'Citizen's assembly' derail him though.
There are three things for me that are critical
1 - education needs to be valued more greatly by the local populations and vastly improved
2 - devolution of powers neeeds to happen on a grand scale, including the ability to raise money and spend it how the locals desire, along with the associated risks being borne locally
3 - vast investment in transport to and between the regions, HS2 must happen in parallel with NPR to link the cities but intra urban investment is also badly lacking.
Even with those delivered, I struggle to see much of a positive future for many of the towns and cities whose reason for existing has long since gone.
Maybe the idea of managed decline may at some point have to be on the table for some places.
That fire looks almost completely external in nature, and the staircases are going to be at the back (and there will be several of them).
"For the first time, the Iowa poll accounts for new rules proposed this year by the Iowa Democratic Party that will allow Iowans to participate in a virtual caucus online or over the phone."
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/08/iowa-poll-biden-democrats-2020-1358156
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/1137726095317512192
She also says she would use the £39 billion saved from payments to the EU to fund a public sector pay rise
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-ll-force-no-deal-and-give-eu-money-to-our-workers-vows-mcvey-jwxwmdrj6?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1560070560
I chose to choose life.
https://twitter.com/RidgeOnSunday/status/1137648043904385025?s=19